[MasterManiac13]

i want to know what i would be happier with a patch or a ram, i mean long term whats better?

[hawk5005]

rams = lots of trans gauge,trans speed,highest damage,pwns in sector

[Robocop7ant]

rams = lots of trans gauge,trans speed,highest damage,pwns in sector

Patch= strongest and highest damage.

[7ehNoob]

Patch= strongest and highest damage.

+ Highest Defence against Trans and Bosses. Patch wins imo.

[Meta]

Ram would be good for pvp & bvb
Patch is awesome for sector
Surge > all

[thegtabot]

Patch is best for pvp. Ram for sector. I DESTROY rams no matter the lvl in pvp and im lvl 57...

[Allie]

Patch if you plan on sectoring, surge if you plan on learning to PvP, ram if you're dependent on trans, as ram is an all-around BOT.

[thegtabot]

Patch if you plan on sectoring, surge if you plan on learning to PvP, ram if you're dependent on trans, as ram is an all-around BOT.

Surge is an all- around bot. RAM sucks at pvp because it has no specific skill that best fits it. While Patch, since it jumps lower, can deliver uppercut very much quicker. Patch is also stronger. Surge imo is overused and overrated.

[Allie]

Surge vs Patch no skills see the patch land one hit.

[Surgeypurgey]

Patch

[Meta]

Patch

PatcheyWatchey : D

[thegtabot]

Surge vs Patch no skills see the patch land one hit.

Thats because you made surges to darn fast.

[Pokeh]

Thats because you made surges to darn fast.

They were faster to begin with.

Speed>Power.

Surges can finish a sector game almost half a minute faster than patches; simply because of the speed. (Of course, with a full TA set.)

[thegtabot]

They were faster to begin with.

Speed>Power.

Surges can finish a sector game almost half a minute faster than patches; simply because of the speed. (Of course, with a full TA set.)

But surge WASN'T that fast in BOTS, here its ridiculous

[Allie]

You're ridiculous.
Bladium+5 is ~ the speed of 181++.
Therefore, the speed here is just above the speed of BOTS.
Anyone who believes otherwise is just too stupid to level up and just complain about the higher level's speed that they can't personally acquire.

[zomniethe4]

But surge WASN'T that fast in BOTS, here its ridiculous

Better than it use to be. 

[Pokeh]

Better than it use to be. 

One of the reason why PvP here> Bots, ****.

Speed is just right, not too high or too low when maxed out.

It's just the gap between a say level 70 to 150 is bigger; as the higher armors seem to give more stats.. (a bit more than their supposed to, of course.)

[Xrow]

You're ridiculous.
Bladium+5 is ~ the speed of 181++.
Therefore, the speed here is just above the speed of BOTS.
Anyone who believes otherwise is just too stupid to level up and just complain about the higher level's speed that they can't personally acquire.

I agree.
I'm level 154 and I pwn lvl 200s all the time soooo don't complain

[Kevin]

As a patch, I have to admit I was a tank compared to surges speed and rams TG/TS.

That's after being a level 100 patch for 2+ years and really only pvping.

If you have the skill, Rams can dominate pretty much any bot. I've yet to figure out the strategy.

[Allie]

As a patch, I have to admit I was a tank compared to surges speed and rams TG/TS.

That's after being a level 100 patch for 2+ years and really only pvping.

If you have the skill, Rams can dominate pretty much any bot. I've yet to figure out the strategy.

Those rams havn't PvP'd Opti, S_A, starscream55, Allie, Lyrix, or Ninja.

[Kevin]

Those rams havn't PvP'd Opti, S_A, starscream55, Allie, Lyrix, or Ninja.

I don't connect to any of those people though. Except S_A, and I remember pvping him and beating him before.

[Allie]

S_A is so inactive there's no point connecting to him.
Opti you can just assume is better than any ram you can cough up.
You connect with me.

[Kevin]

I wouldn't pick anyone here to pvp Opti period. No point in even trying when a majority don't pvp anymore and or are new ***s.

[Allie]

Agreed; PvP here is boring since the only good PvPers are the same PvPers we've seen forever.

All the best PvPers left soon after joining (starscream55, Nitex) and PvPers aren't getting good enough to be considered pro.

Now I see why Opti was so destined to train people in PvP; it allows for a possible new generation of PvPers to have actual skill for more competition.

[Kevin]

Perhaps we'll find a Korean with professional pvping skills to match Opti and you. (without hacking)

[Allie]

You should come on and PvP.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Gramps]

@ the topic
Patch= easy wins in sector
ram= with some skill, easy wins in sector but more fun

[Cesar87]

PAtch!

[Iridion]

Those rams havn't PvP'd Opti, S_A, starscream55, Allie, Lyrix, or Ninja.

since those you mentioned are the only players with really high level of skills i wouldnt even consider them s:

[leonidsa]

patch is better than ram but i like Surge 

[thegtabot]

One of the reason why PvP here> Bots, UGLY PONIES.

Speed is just right, not too high or too low when maxed out.

It's just the gap between a say level 70 to 150 is bigger; as the higher armors seem to give more stats.. (a bit more than their supposed to, of course.)

PVP here SUCKS compared to BOTS... Wth?

Not really... ImaginationX is better than Opti, I have seen him fight and the only reason Opti wins against him is becasue he is lvl 200.



Although I am getting used to it, the level of damage high leveled players have is extremely annoying sometimes. I have more damage than the average level 100 on BOTS.. The damage system is just completely boggled up and made unfair to lower lvls. If the damage levels were lower, more people would pvp... And more pvpers = more pros.


Plus only noobs who only win because of power would rage-quit. We need less of them anyway.

[Iridion]

no triple plz. imaginationx is not remotely as good as opti, i won against him with 200 so lols.

[thegtabot]

no triple plz. imaginationx is not remotely as good as opti, i won against him with 200 so lols.

ImaginationX recently got alot better, and HAS beaten Opti before, but only once... Mostly because Opti is lvl 200.

[xbaras]

If you enjoy Sector more you should get a ram as it completely focuses on transformation which will really help unlike in PvP where players are known to get over 1700TD (that's -70% off transed damage).

On the flipside, if you enjoy PvP more than Sector the Patch BOT would an adequate weapon itself as the opposing players would be better off not transing at all. It's critical hits also serve usefull with the Counterattack skill. In Sector, Patch is know to destroy Sector bosses and transed monsters in record time. however there is one drawback. As you would like to know, in the 'long run' Rams posses greater attack, transed attack and HP than any other BOT in the game. If you want to see what I'm really talking about, take a look at the stats of a Dark Ram arm in the shop. Here is a small list of Ram stats compared to Patch stats:

Plasmodium Body = +244 ~ +271 Transed attack
Plasmodium Head = +720 HP
Plasmodium Arms = +40 ~ +53 Normal attack

Illuminum Body = +291 ~ +316 Transed attack
Illuminum Head = +740 HP
Illuminum Arms = +40 ~ +53 Normal attack (yes, I know the arms atk are not different)

[Yz]

ImaginationX recently got alot better, and HAS beaten Opti before, but only once... Mostly because Opti is lvl 200.

LMFAO?! ImagionationX is.. well..

Mate, hes ****ing shit!

[Styx]

lol i can beat imag up if i tried. i smudge everyones bots over flop with my lag.

[Iridion]

I beat Styx.

[Styx]

I beat Styx.

MOSTLY BECUZ U 200 NOOB

QQ

[Iridion]

MOSTLY BECUZ U 200 NOOB

QQ

I beat you when you were 200 aswell. <3

[ZeroUH]

I don't know if we have a gank of TD users here. If yes, get a Patch. Why? Your dmg against TD users will be +/- 75 in trans mode, so Ram habilities are useless.

[hawk5005]

I don't know if we have a gank of TD users here. If yes, get a Patch. Why? Your dmg against TD users will be +/- 75 in trans mode, so Ram habilities are useless.

A good lvl 150 patch tanker gets hit with 0 dmg by a ram in trans mode.

[ZeroUH]

A good lvl 150 patch tanker gets hit with 0 dmg by a ram in trans mode.

Another reason for use a Patch instead of a Ram.

[hawk5005]

Another reason for use a Patch instead of a Ram.

Yeah but if you think this way,Patch is good only in PVP and Ram is good only in PVM

[Lyric_]

Rams are way better for sextor. You guys are crazy.

I push with me level 90 ram and do 207 in 3 minutes...

[hawk5005]

Rams are way better for sextor. You guys are crazy.

I push with me level 90 ram and do 207 in 3 minutes...

That's what I said.