Dear community/staff
Before I start this I'd just like to say **** the feedback section and that I'm not trying to talk down on anyone but instead just trying to give a view on how I feel about this. This topic isn't made to flame anyone but if you feel offended by anything I say just pm me and I'll try to reword it to the best of my ability. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a Gavin type of text but if it manages to it'll probably be for the better. One last thing, this is mainly for anything that has happened in the past month or might happen in the next month. Shall I begin?
Game In General
Allie and Kenny, you two have done a great job making this server from what you've started at. So much progress has been made that's its nearly unbelievable. You guys make a great team and I'm pretty sure most of us are very thankful for your hard work and time put into this, but seriously you need to actually start bringing your shit together if your actually trying to get a business company started. Professionalism sucks, flat out. The only time I see maturity within you two is if your posting an announcement/event and discussing it. In game its just a train wreck. I swear it's like watching someone who begged for a GM position just post in global chat. I understand that you might want to lay back from being professional but the kinda shit that I've seen is just stupid and uncalled for.
More in depth - Allie
Pretty cool person once your cool with. Can take jokes to a certain extent and very smart person. And once again thankful for what you do but honestly you act like a bitch to random people. A lot of the time the stuff you say it just ****ing uncalled for. Understanding that you probably get annoyed by people rather easily but I'd rather you ignore them than to just go all temper tantrum mode. Your powers to you are like your greed. Having all that doesn't mean you should go out and abuse it and give us the shitty ass excuse that you can do it because your the owner. Seriously, you need to fix that shit and use it only when you need too. In-game it's nice that you care about people in the game enough to switch to an account without global chat or to just turn it off. I'm pretty sure everyone appreciates you for that. I'll just stop there with you.
More in depth - Kenny
Chill, lay back type of admin. Professional when you want to be which is at the right times but in game it's just awful the way you act. You go all out whether it's saying stupid shit over global or making messages pop up that no one really cares much about. If you ask me it's pretty annoying trying to talk in the lobby and then having to click this stupid, senseless message off my screen. Your always willing to help but the only thing I can really think that's a problem with you is your professionalism
Talk to the community
Hi there, yea well the community isn't just here to sell stuff in marketplace and play games. Were here to also help you out, whether its volunteer staff or normal members. PLEASE TRY TALKING TO US ABOUT THINGS HAPPENING IN GAME ; Latest one would be the member text turning black again. I mean seriously? What the **** were you thinking. People payed for that shit. At least talk to the paying members of the community which are helping keep the server up if your going to take away some of their benefits. Another thing that isn't really as serious but still annoying. Allie, I think you remember that shield passive I bought? The one with over 9k games? The one you sort of turned into devoid with 100 games? You could've warned me that you were going to ****ing do that. Not just me either, I'm pretty sure there's many other people who lost something because you just went ahead and removed it. Whether is was to improve the community with better items or not LET US KNOW PLEASE. We'd like to be informed of what's going on in the game. Right know I believe that your trying to progress this game faster than you should be trying to. You have people spamming/complaining in the lobby whenever you do stupid shit. The staff can only do so little to help. Oh speaking of staff.
The Staff
As we all know of the staff is partially based on favoritism. Right now, the current staff sucks. Their all good people and all but it's so unorganized between these guys its just ridiculous. Honestly I'd say only 1 Mod and 2 FMs deserve their position. The chemistry inside the staff area may be good but to me it looks like you have a recipe for disaster going on. You should really consider actually scouting people in game and promoting them instead of going with the "I like you and your cool thing" Don't pick staff that are just there pick ones that can actually reach out to us. Example of one just there - Selene. Sorry Selene, I have nothing against you and I told pig this but you remind me of a robot. Your the most boring person I've ever seen in my god damn life. Everytime I see one of your post I just want to hop in bed and go to sleep, remember to just pm me if you want me to take this out. And I know this is the past but I might as well talk about gramps for just a sec. When it came time to promote someone to Temp. Admin, you chose Tricky. Tricky is a great guy, very active, amazing choice for temp admin but if you have a head GM it would only make since to make him the temp admin. I'm pretty sure I don't speak for myself when I say gramps is like a.... gramps to us so I don't see why you didn't promote him. You would've been better off and avoided all this stupid crap is you either had tricky as head GM or done the smart thing and had gramps take care of the game.
Event Items
lol they cool but I have no idea what you were thinking when you added dark meto to this game. This one item basically destroyed most of the game. A gun that does over 900 damage with a fully upgraded surge? That has to be the stupidest shit anyone has ever thought of in their entire life. That almost more ****ing damage then I do on Ryura. Then you have these e.f's that give even MORE of a boost. The stats of your event items are like a cancer that your just injecting into the game slowly ruining it. I advise you stop adding these items with a circumstantial boost and substitute it with something else
For the community
You guys make me sick, most of you are greedy, annoying, act like complete morons, and make yourself look just awful. Some event items that came out you guys cried that it was a sucky item. Bitch shut the **** up, every item implemented in the game from events are ****ing op and shit. It's tiring having to watch the staff put up with your shit when in reality we all know that your still going to abuse the ****ing thing and then brag that you have it later in the future. You complain about OP items and what do you get next update? Even more OP items. It's like a never ending ladder.
I think that's it. tl;dr Something needs to change
ya x100
why the **** isnt he president?!
*Presses ctrl+f
*Types in Cooky
*No results
*Leaves topic
edit: Nvm I just read the whole thing, agreed with most if it..
^Not sure if serious but that was incredibly immature.
Read the whole thing and I have to say that I agree with it 100%.
Quote from: Pokeh on August 08, 2012, 10:01:06 PM
why the **** isnt he president?!
8)
Where is the "like" button? This stuff's the truth.
Zom threw his shit at the fan.
You are better than Obama.
read the whole thing , didn't go gavin style
can't argue with your points either , they're solid
Agreed with most of it, but don't have much to comment on. If you want a discussion, we can talk in MSN, as for this topic I'll let others read and discuss.
Well said Zom, I read it all.
I guess it's kinda impossible to find perfect people lol.Everyone has there own faults, But that makes us human.
but one should at least try to improve on his faults
Nvm I just read the whole thing, agreed with most if it..
You pretty much got it all. I agree with you on most of it. I would like to see some changes too, but in a more organized and proffesional way ofc.
Quote from: KillerPig on August 08, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
but u should at least try to improve ur faults
Off course you should. but that's not always possible Little Piggy.
Oh, there is one thing I do have to comment on.
Staff here isn't chosen by favourites, I assure you. These are, in my opinion, the most capable people in the entire community. And they aren't chosen by being buddies either; I'm not even the one who chooses them. I have people watching out in-game for potential staff, and reporting to me if they find anyone. It's just coincidence that the players who get mod are forumers (who, in most cases, are considered cool because they're well-known).
o, well then mark that whole part off. but ya sooner or later we need to talk :)
im starting to think the staff application thing worked out much better
at least that way we wont have protests and all this other shit thats going on since the people got to pick who would "lead" them
Now that you mention it, I'm starting to feel the same way.
You could open up staff applications for about a week and just watch how the people act ingame/forums. They could easily be replaced if they're just staging the whole thing.
Quote from: Allie on August 08, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
Oh, there is one thing I do have to comment on.
Staff here isn't chosen by favourites, I assure you. These are, in my opinion, the most capable people in the entire community. And they aren't chosen by being buddies either; I'm not even the one who chooses them. I have people watching out in-game for potential staff, and reporting to me if they find anyone. It's just coincidence that the players who get mod are forumers (who, in most cases, are considered cool because they're well-known).
I call bullshit on the count of 2 and 1/2 people-
Selene, inactive "grammar nazis", and Gavina.
Besides if it wasn't favoritism Gramps would be head admin instead of Trixie's wannabe tyrant arse.
Oh, another person, Cooky, cause he basically sucked up and only got his position cause of some leaks, nothing special. Excessively emotional and doesn't know how to assess situations, he should be demoted. He has no reason to be a GM since a) doesn't know mechanics of the game, b) can't play any of the mods right except sector (Which even a 3 year old could probably accomplish with his stats/armor), c) horrible grammar.
Stuff I have to say: (I'm a bit sleepy so the way I phase things may not make sense)
The thing I agree most was about the chemistry inside of the staff group. Seriously, I felt alone when I was FM, there was no system. A long time ago I suggested that certain staff monitor certain sections because I believe this could potentially clean up the forum much faster.
Also, if i'm honest, some were just lazy or did not know what to do in certain positions because some of the shit posted sometimes were an absolute joke and nothing happed, I'm not gonna lie, I was guilty sometimes too but, again, it comes back to the communication and as I see it, we justhave little groups or couples inside the staff. Ones i've obsered are: Hawk and meteor, gramps and neo and some others but the point is they need to acknowledge other people. There cannot be any "I can't talk to (fellow staff) because he/she is too scary or they will reject my idea". The team have to understand each other and see each other eye to eye; as equals.
Perhaps frequent staff training excercises are in order?
Also I think we should bring back the applications aswell. We can still have the observation thing too.
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 08, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
For the community
You guys make me sick, most of you are greedy, annoying, act like complete morons, and make yourself look just awful. Some event items that came out you guys cried that it was a sucky item. Bitch shut the **** up, every item implemented in the game from events are ****ing op and shit. It's tiring having to watch the staff put up with your shit when in reality we all know that your still going to abuse the ****ing thing and then brag that you have it later in the future. You complain about OP items and what do you get next update? Even more OP items. It's like a never ending ladder.
I think that's it. tl;dr Something needs to change
I agreed with everything. Even this. It's sad yet true. Good job Zom.
And to this
Quote from: Corr on August 08, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
Quote from: Allie on August 08, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
Oh, there is one thing I do have to comment on.
Staff here isn't chosen by favourites, I assure you. These are, in my opinion, the most capable people in the entire community. And they aren't chosen by being buddies either; I'm not even the one who chooses them. I have people watching out in-game for potential staff, and reporting to me if they find anyone. It's just coincidence that the players who get mod are forumers (who, in most cases, are considered cool because they're well-known).
I call bullshit on the count of 2 and 1/2 people-
Selene, inactive "grammar nazis", and Gavina.
Besides if it wasn't favoritism Gramps would be head admin instead of Trixie's wannabe tyrant arse.
Oh, another person, Cooky, cause he basically sucked up and only got his position cause of some leaks, nothing special. Excessively emotional and doesn't know how to assess situations, he should be demoted. He has no reason to be a GM since a) doesn't know mechanics of the game, b) can't play any of the mods right except sector (Which even a 3 year old could probably accomplish with his stats/armor), c) horrible grammar.
Worst possible examples. Selene is fairly active, she just got back into staff, and so what if she has good grammar? It's about time for that. She does her job well. Gavin on the other hand isn't even really staff. He may have held a position once but that was along time ago.
Selene has no emotion when she speaks, like Zom said. No offense and not having any problems with any staff. Gavin is a smart intellectual when he has to be. Which isn't at always, you weren't here long enough to know Gavin's greatness 8)
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Quote from: Nucleaon on August 09, 2012, 12:33:21 AM
Selene has no emotion when she speaks, like Zom said. No offense and not having any problems with any staff. Gavin is a smart intellectual when he has to be. Which isn't at always, you weren't here long enough to know Gavin's greatness 8)
Red: Oh well. Se does her job.
Blue: Don't know if you're talking to me or..
Quote from: Santa on August 09, 2012, 12:36:27 AM
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This is also exactly what he meant.
( everything I've been posting has two quotes :o )
Quote from: Zack66775 on August 09, 2012, 12:26:46 AM
Worst possible examples. Selene is fairly active, she just got back into staff, and so what if she has good grammar? It's about time for that. She does her job well. Gavin on the other hand isn't even really staff. He may have held a position once but that was along time ago.
In Corr's opinion, he doesn't think that Selene is fit for her staff position. You can't call that a horrible example, as it's his opinion. Gavin is most definitely a staff member. He has access to the Staff section, which I believe does make him a member of the staff.
Quote from: Corr on August 08, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
Besides if it wasn't favoritism Gramps would be head admin instead of Trixie's wannabe tyrant arse.
If it was favouritism gramps would be admin. Tricky is FAR more capable, gramps is just more well-liked. I kept gramps as head GM because if I demoted him, he would quit. He's emotional as ****, and his emotion sways his judgement than a ****in bank robber telling him to put his hands up. Tricky makes unbias judgements, and takes well to making decisions for himself that would benefit the community, without taking it so far as to ruin it.
I knew gramps would quit. He pulled this shit monthly. Everyone believes he's better than Tricky cause all staff is to you guys is a popularity contest - one which you believe we also do. If you don't like someone, you'd prefer someone you do like to be staff. You show your immaturity by inferring that I gave Tricky the job because I liked him better; Tricky didn't quit every time its that time of the month.
Tbh, in order of all my GMs, I'd have to say Zero > Tricky > Izy > Opti > Gramps > Firey > Meteor. (cant name anymore). This is the almost the order I'd prefer my head GM, except that I don't believe Izy, Firey or Meteor could handle it. Gramps is borderline. Being a likeable, good GM doesn't make you qualified as a leader, which in this case Tricky had what I was looking for and gramps did not.
in all honesty i think trikys a lot more well liked
Quote from: KillerPig on August 09, 2012, 12:41:08 AM
in all honesty i think trikys a lot more well liked
I don't. Tricky is very capable and he has a lot more power over the community but gramps is that loveable person who won't harm anyone he likes if he doesn't have to.
Quote from: Jeffalo13 on August 09, 2012, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: Zack66775 on August 09, 2012, 12:26:46 AM
Worst possible examples. Selene is fairly active, she just got back into staff, and so what if she has good grammar? It's about time for that. She does her job well. Gavin on the other hand isn't even really staff. He may have held a position once but that was along time ago.
In Corr's opinion, he doesn't think that Selene is fit for her staff position. You can't call that a horrible example, as it's his opinion. Gavin is most definitely a staff member. He has access to the Staff section, which I believe does make him a member of the staff.
Fine. It's his opinion and I'm not trying to be an ass hole but please point him out on this list.
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,9.0.html (http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,9.0.html)
Quote from: Zack66775 on August 09, 2012, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 08, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
For the community
You guys make me sick, most of you are greedy, annoying, act like complete morons, and make yourself look just awful. Some event items that came out you guys cried that it was a sucky item. Bitch shut the **** up, every item implemented in the game from events are ****ing op and shit. It's tiring having to watch the staff put up with your shit when in reality we all know that your still going to abuse the ****ing thing and then brag that you have it later in the future. You complain about OP items and what do you get next update? Even more OP items. It's like a never ending ladder.
I think that's it. tl;dr Something needs to change
I agreed with everything. Even this. It's sad yet true. Good job Zom.
And to this
Quote from: Corr on August 08, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
Quote from: Allie on August 08, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
Oh, there is one thing I do have to comment on.
Staff here isn't chosen by favourites, I assure you. These are, in my opinion, the most capable people in the entire community. And they aren't chosen by being buddies either; I'm not even the one who chooses them. I have people watching out in-game for potential staff, and reporting to me if they find anyone. It's just coincidence that the players who get mod are forumers (who, in most cases, are considered cool because they're well-known).
I call bullshit on the count of 2 and 1/2 people-
Selene, inactive "grammar nazis", and Gavina.
Besides if it wasn't favoritism Gramps would be head admin instead of Trixie's wannabe tyrant arse.
Oh, another person, Cooky, cause he basically sucked up and only got his position cause of some leaks, nothing special. Excessively emotional and doesn't know how to assess situations, he should be demoted. He has no reason to be a GM since a) doesn't know mechanics of the game, b) can't play any of the mods right except sector (Which even a 3 year old could probably accomplish with his stats/armor), c) horrible grammar.
Worst possible examples. Selene is fairly active, she just got back into staff, and so what if she has good grammar? It's about time for that. She does her job well. Gavin on the other hand isn't even really staff. He may have held a position once but that was along time ago.
Holy shit retard learn what a comma is.
Selene, one reason.
Inactive Grammar Nazi mods, another reason.
Oh my god, smh.
Zero is basically Selene with a god complex.
Tricky is basically god complex when he's given top dog power.
Opti was born with god complex.
You develop god complex when someone argues with you and wins.
See the trend?
I also like how Cooky wasn't mentioned at all which means I'm right about that thing. Cool storeh. Besides, Trixie quits every week, comes back, makes big deal about leaving, says he's leaving again but still post, says he's in his mom's house even though he told me about a year ago that she died in a flood which is why he's so emotionally depressed. Yea, awesome list of people you got as god complex minions.
Quote from: Corr on August 09, 2012, 12:56:09 AM
Quote from: Zack66775 on August 09, 2012, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 08, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
For the community
You guys make me sick, most of you are greedy, annoying, act like complete morons, and make yourself look just awful. Some event items that came out you guys cried that it was a sucky item. Bitch shut the **** up, every item implemented in the game from events are ****ing op and shit. It's tiring having to watch the staff put up with your shit when in reality we all know that your still going to abuse the ****ing thing and then brag that you have it later in the future. You complain about OP items and what do you get next update? Even more OP items. It's like a never ending ladder.
I think that's it. tl;dr Something needs to change
I agreed with everything. Even this. It's sad yet true. Good job Zom.
And to this
Quote from: Corr on August 08, 2012, 11:26:45 PM
Quote from: Allie on August 08, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
Oh, there is one thing I do have to comment on.
Staff here isn't chosen by favourites, I assure you. These are, in my opinion, the most capable people in the entire community. And they aren't chosen by being buddies either; I'm not even the one who chooses them. I have people watching out in-game for potential staff, and reporting to me if they find anyone. It's just coincidence that the players who get mod are forumers (who, in most cases, are considered cool because they're well-known).
I call bullshit on the count of 2 and 1/2 people-
Selene, inactive "grammar nazis", and Gavina.
Besides if it wasn't favoritism Gramps would be head admin instead of Trixie's wannabe tyrant arse.
Oh, another person, Cooky, cause he basically sucked up and only got his position cause of some leaks, nothing special. Excessively emotional and doesn't know how to assess situations, he should be demoted. He has no reason to be a GM since a) doesn't know mechanics of the game, b) can't play any of the mods right except sector (Which even a 3 year old could probably accomplish with his stats/armor), c) horrible grammar.
Worst possible examples. Selene is fairly active, she just got back into staff, and so what if she has good grammar? It's about time for that. She does her job well. Gavin on the other hand isn't even really staff. He may have held a position once but that was along time ago.
Holy shit retard learn what a comma is.
Selene, one reason.
Inactive Grammar Nazi mods, another reason.
Oh my god, smh.
omg fragmentation FRAGMENTATION.
Alotta people hate me actually. But that's because I don't look at this game and think "time to make friends"...
Gramps would have gotten the Temp. Admin job if he didn't quit all the time. I always wanted Gramps to do better than me and get that admin position, but he literally "quit for the last time" over 6 times or so. And that'd be fine if every time he quit he didn't say it was Allie/Kennys fault. A Head GM isn't meant to constantly embarrass the Admins in front of the whole game...
I agree with everything except the Gramps bit. I may have thought that at first, but now after seeing how emotional he is (he deleted me off MSN because I got admin and he didn't) I couldn't give less of a ****.
Internet = No Emotions. Bringing your feelings to the net makes you stupid.
I would like to see some improvement from Allie however. The whole x_O fiasco was a bit extreme, and these event items are pretty gross - NO EVENT ITEM SHOULD BE PERM! Nor should the community complain. Back in BOTS we usually just got 30 day items that weren't even OP. It'd be great if we could slowly go back to this pattern.
Also, I picked Selene and Dewo as Mods, not Allie. Selene and me are friends but not close, I chose her because, robot or not, she is one of the best Mods BC has ever had. I shouldn't have to explain why. Dewo is also a pretty good friend of mine, one of my favourites in BC, but even when he wasn't Mod he came to me every day to talk about things that would benefit BC. He reported everything to me.
Will watch this thread, was an interesting read.
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 12:59:33 AM
I would like to see some improvement from Allie however. The whole x_O fiasco was a bit extreme
ya
XD, Zombie right. :P
Quote from: Corr on August 09, 2012, 01:03:25 AM
i smell like horse shit.
Corr, sorry but you are part of the reason that Zom wanted to make this thread. You are trying to be
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 08, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
annoying, act like [a] complete moron, and make yourself look just awful.
kenny u mofo stop editing omg >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: KillerPig on August 09, 2012, 01:09:42 AM
kenny u mofo stop editing omg >:( >:( >:(
i did nothing.
« Last Edit: Today at 10:08:22 PM by Santa »
i smell like horse shit.
« Last Edit: Today at 10:05:48 PM by Santa »
???????????
Quote from: KillerPig on August 09, 2012, 01:11:08 AM
« Last Edit: Today at 10:08:22 PM by Santa »
i smell like horse shit.
« Last Edit: Today at 10:05:48 PM by Santa »
???????????
it was a hacker. says u did it...............
Quote from: Santa on August 09, 2012, 01:11:46 AM
Quote from: KillerPig on August 09, 2012, 01:11:08 AM
« Last Edit: Today at 10:08:22 PM by Santa »
i smell like horse shit.
« Last Edit: Today at 10:05:48 PM by Santa »
???????????
it was a hacker. says u did it...............
Santa. You made me nearly ROFL for real but again one of the reasons he made this topic. Don't edit my posts either!
everyone is the reason zom made this
... Topic back, it's a good topic.
alright sup
lets get triky response, hm?
QuoteTrixie quits every week, comes back, makes big deal about leaving, says he's leaving again but still post, says he's in his mom's house even though he told me about a year ago that she died in a flood which is why he's so emotionally depressed. Yea, awesome list of people you got as god complex minions.
ok go reply gogo
Quote from: KillerPig on August 09, 2012, 01:23:16 AM
alright sup
lets get triky response, hm?
QuoteTrixie quits every week, comes back, makes big deal about leaving, says he's leaving again but still post, says he's in his mom's house even though he told me about a year ago that she died in a flood which is why he's so emotionally depressed. Yea, awesome list of people you got as god complex minions.
ok go reply gogo
Never quit for perm, never once said "I am gone for good".
Forum is easy to access. If I temp. quit game it's cuz game bored me, not forum.
Never told Corr my mum died in a flood. It was an inside joke which he understood, which is why I now know he's just joking to start drama.
Btw I haven't even temp. quit BC in a year. I've been non-stop active since I was made a Forum mod in June or so in 2011.
come on guise dont let this die :'(
it served the purpose, thanks
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 12:59:33 AM
Alotta people hate me actually. But that's because I don't look at this game and think "time to make friends"...
Gramps would have gotten the Temp. Admin job if he didn't quit all the time. I always wanted Gramps to do better than me and get that admin position, but he literally "quit for the last time" over 6 times or so. And that'd be fine if every time he quit he didn't say it was Allie/Kennys fault. A Head GM isn't meant to constantly embarrass the Admins in front of the whole game...
I agree with everything except the Gramps bit. I may have thought that at first, but now after seeing how emotional he is (he deleted me off MSN because I got admin and he didn't) I couldn't give less of a ****.
Internet = No Emotions. Bringing your feelings to the net makes you stupid.
I would like to see some improvement from Allie however. The whole x_O fiasco was a bit extreme, and these event items are pretty gross - NO EVENT ITEM SHOULD BE PERM! Nor should the community complain. Back in BOTS we usually just got 30 day items that weren't even OP. It'd be great if we could slowly go back to this pattern.
Also, I picked Selene and Dewo as Mods, not Allie. Selene and me are friends but not close, I chose her because, robot or not, she is one of the best Mods BC has ever had. I shouldn't have to explain why. Dewo is also a pretty good friend of mine, one of my favourites in BC, but even when he wasn't Mod he came to me every day to talk about things that would benefit BC. He reported everything to me.
Will watch this thread, was an interesting read.
tricky no offence thats bullshit gramps didnt delete u off msn cuse u made admin and he didnt and u no that he deleted every 1 that plays bc since he dont play it anymore and fair enough he did say he quit a few times and came back but hes gone for good now and even you know that.
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 09, 2012, 01:49:38 AM
it served the purpose, thanks
but...nothings changed
Quote from: andyy890 on August 09, 2012, 01:50:13 AM
tricky no offence thats bullshit gramps didnt delete u off msn cuse u made admin and he didnt and u no that he deleted every 1 that plays bc since he dont play it anymore and fair enough he did say he quit a few times and came back but hes gone for good now and even you know that.
holy...
oh nvm i see it now
@andy He told me he specifically wouldn't delete his friends. He wouldn't delete me. But he after fights with me and Allie he did, and kept qqing to me.
Pretty obv he was mad at me ._.
It's only been a few hours ._.
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 09, 2012, 01:52:13 AM
It's only been a few hours ._.
but...
we cant assume anythings gonna change
if nothing changes we complain more
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 01:51:59 AM
@andy He told me he specifically wouldn't delete his friends. He wouldn't delete me. But he after fights with me and Allie he did, and kept qqing to me.
Pretty obv he was mad at me ._.
he deleted over 50 ppl that play bc off his msn he didnt just delete u he deleted everyone. and hes not mad at u i still talk 2 gramps cuse i talk 2 him on teamspeak and stuff cuse i play play other games like urban terror with him
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This topic is gunna start drama..
I need moar popcorns lawl..
Quote from: cybercjt on August 09, 2012, 01:57:04 AM
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This topic is gunna start drama..
I need moar popcorns lawl..
dramas gone mang
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 01:51:59 AM
@andy He told me he specifically wouldn't delete his friends. He wouldn't delete me. But he after fights with me and Allie he did, and kept qqing to me.
Pretty obv he was mad at me ._.
And i also wanna no what rules gramps broke for him 2 be permed banned with no warnings what so ever becuase every time this gets brought up allie is trying 2 avoid awnsering it cuse she knows he didnt break any rules for a perm ban so will you please tell me every single rule he broke for gramps 2 be banned perm without even 1 warning....
Quote from: andyy890 on August 09, 2012, 02:05:33 AM
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 01:51:59 AM
@andy He told me he specifically wouldn't delete his friends. He wouldn't delete me. But he after fights with me and Allie he did, and kept qqing to me.
Pretty obv he was mad at me ._.
And i also wanna no what rules gramps broke for him 2 be permed banned with no warnings what so ever becuase every time this gets brought up allie is trying 2 avoid awnsering it cuse she knows he didnt break any rules for a perm ban so will you please tell me every single rule he broke for gramps 2 be banned perm without even 1 warning....
Insulting game and Allie (Dewo too) on Global in BC while we were in an argument with Jason. He even said "Ban me now" on Global. What did you expect.
Constantly saying harmful things about the game and community on his forum account even after he had "quit forever". Which led to the forum mute/ban from Allie.
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
Quote from: andyy890 on August 09, 2012, 02:05:33 AM
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 01:51:59 AM
@andy He told me he specifically wouldn't delete his friends. He wouldn't delete me. But he after fights with me and Allie he did, and kept qqing to me.
Pretty obv he was mad at me ._.
And i also wanna no what rules gramps broke for him 2 be permed banned with no warnings what so ever becuase every time this gets brought up allie is trying 2 avoid awnsering it cuse she knows he didnt break any rules for a perm ban so will you please tell me every single rule he broke for gramps 2 be banned perm without even 1 warning....
Insulting game and Allie (Dewo too) on Global in BC while we were in an argument with Jason. He even said "Ban me now" on Global. What did you expect.
Constantly saying harmful things about the game and community on his forum account even after he had "quit forever". Which led to the forum mute/ban from Allie.
and yet no warnings what so ever you could of warned him and told him if he carried on with the things he was saying he would be banned then if he carried on then yes thats a valid reason 2 ban but without a warning....
Whats done is done i still think it was unreasonable 2 ban him with any warnings what so ever im going sleep now since its 5:30am lol
he ASKED for his own ban lol
Quote from: andyy890 on August 09, 2012, 02:21:12 AM
Whats done is done i still think it was unreasonable 2 ban him with any warnings what so ever im going sleep now since its 5:30am lol
Lost all respect for you. Utter favoritism. He asked for a ban and abused his right to global chat and talked shit about the game. >_> You don't get a warn for abusing global text+breaking 2-3 rules...
i challenge bc to go a month without drama
President Zom has spoken. Begone fafs!
Quote from: nanak tatum on August 09, 2012, 03:41:44 AM
ZOM ZOM ZOM ZOM ZOM ZOM......Is awesome.
Also ermmmmm i disaggree like a lot of people were saying about the staff. I think the staff is good ( all except that one time where they decided to have johny as mod ). And I like you selene because your name is selene after the underworld movies ;D
thats a horrible reason to like someone as a mod,and johnny did a decent job imo
no
Quote from: KillerPig on August 09, 2012, 02:23:36 AM
he ASKED for his own ban lol
many people ask for it out of rage or just pissing around ....
in lobby and stuff and they never get banned
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 02:53:39 AM
Quote from: andyy890 on August 09, 2012, 02:21:12 AM
Whats done is done i still think it was unreasonable 2 ban him with any warnings what so ever im going sleep now since its 5:30am lol
Lost all respect for you. Utter favoritism. He asked for a ban and abused his right to global chat and talked shit about the game. >_> You don't get a warn for abusing global text+breaking 2-3 rules...
not favoritism gramps is a friend so i like 2 know every single fact.... from both sides like if gramps was u and u was the the one that was banned like him id want 2 know every single fact about u since ur a friend aswell
He asked to be banned over global chat
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 05:25:30 AM
He asked to be banned over global chat
Fair enough but since he asked 2 be banned and he got banned and now he asked 2 be unbanned y dont u unban him?
Quote from: antisickness on August 08, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
Stuff I have to say: (I'm a bit sleepy so the way I phase things may not make sense)
The thing I agree most was about the chemistry inside of the staff group. Seriously, I felt alone when I was FM, there was no system. A long time ago I suggested that certain staff monitor certain sections because I believe this could potentially clean up the forum much faster.
Also, if i'm honest, some were just lazy or did not know what to do in certain positions because some of the shit posted sometimes were an absolute joke and nothing happed, I'm not gonna lie, I was guilty sometimes too but, again, it comes back to the communication and as I see it, we justhave little groups or couples inside the staff. Ones i've obsered are: Hawk and meteor, gramps and neo and some others but the point is they need to acknowledge other people. There cannot be any "I can't talk to (fellow staff) because he/she is too scary or they will reject my idea". The team have to understand each other and see each other eye to eye; as equals.
Perhaps frequent staff training excercises are in order?
Also I think we should bring back the applications aswell. We can still have the observation thing too.
My name spotted!!
I understand what you mean but I assure you that's not 100% true.
I did work a lot with gramps but that doesn't mean I was only fixed on him when I needed another staff member.
Whenever I needed a thread in "report a rule breaker" locked, I contacted Toast or Hawk, simply because one of them was always on.
Whenever I needed someone to get banned I just searched for those being online no matter if Tricky, Gramps or Meteor.
And I do think Meteor and Grim aren't just working with each other, of course they prefer talking to each other when they're both online but when one of them isn't they have no problem asking other staff members.
I also remember some situations when Meteor contacted me for something.
Didn't read it all but....
People need to get facts straightened out. "Gramps deleted me from msn cos i got temp admin" WRONG, as i explained to you in msn.
"Gramps is emotional as **** in his decisions" That's why he banned his kid, guild leader, friends etc.....
Theres more but i'm sure there's no point in posting it as this post will get deleted and account muted just like the others. Not allowed to voice opinions or tell people how it is am i.
Lol zom , the whole text u writed the most off it is true .
And about allie for sure...
Dude it took me like 10 min to read it and the understand evrything what u writed ..
My sucky english is getting better by that..
And about Gramps.. Sad he did that
i always liked him...
Shit happends : / !
Quote from: cheese2 on August 09, 2012, 08:57:35 AM
Didn't read it all but....
People need to get facts straightened out. "Gramps deleted me from msn cos i got temp admin" WRONG, as i explained to you in msn.
"Gramps is emotional as **** in his decisions" That's why he banned his kid, guild leader, friends etc.....
Theres more but i'm sure there's no point in posting it as this post will get deleted and account muted just like the others. Not allowed to voice opinions or tell people how it is am i.
>Claiming you're not emotionally unstable
>Quit because Allie called you emotionally unstable
???
Iv'e read the first 3 pages and I agree with everything you said Zom but I disagree with the Deal on Gramps, Tricky is the best person for the job Tricky has matured more than any1 in the Community. I forgave Tricky long ago from all that crap we had been through he's not the type of person that will have a Bitch Fit when things don't go his way.
In fact Tricky will continue to do his job to the max.
Quote from: Yz on August 09, 2012, 10:42:06 AM
Quote from: cheese2 on August 09, 2012, 08:57:35 AM
Didn't read it all but....
People need to get facts straightened out. "Gramps deleted me from msn cos i got temp admin" WRONG, as i explained to you in msn.
"Gramps is emotional as **** in his decisions" That's why he banned his kid, guild leader, friends etc.....
Theres more but i'm sure there's no point in posting it as this post will get deleted and account muted just like the others. Not allowed to voice opinions or tell people how it is am i.
>Claiming you're not emotionally unstable
>Quit because Allie called you emotionally unstable
???
Quit because of allie, not because she said that, because of the way she is, thinks she knows everything, puts words in my mouth that i haven't said/list goes on....
Doesn't matter, people can believe the bs or the truth, either way i don't care, it's just the internet.
at this point the whole thing has kinda blown over. but quitting may have been a bit over the top.
can Allie or someone who talked to her about this give a response? will anything change?
Quote from: RAUDOG on August 09, 2012, 12:13:11 PM
Iv'e read the first 3 pages and I agree with everything you said Zom but I disagree with the Deal on Gramps, Tricky is the best person for the job Tricky has matured more than any1 in the Community. I forgave Tricky long ago from all that crap we had been through he's not the type of person that will have a Bitch Fit when things don't go his way.
In fact Tricky will continue to do his job to the max.
Never said tricky wasn't the best, but at the time in my perspective the head gm should have gotten the roll but Allie already explained this.
Something that can happen with event items. Instead of just adding stats on top of stats you could give some items around a 25% bonus on a stat but at the same time decrease another stat by 50%
I.E. A normal coin head stats with evade +200 hp and +75 evade the stats of an event item would be +100 hp and +100 evade. Or you could do it at a 50/50 ratio +100 hp and +150 evade
Example with a flag: +85hp and +300 TA, hp could drop to 40 while TA rises to 375.
The main concept of my idea is sacrificing in order to get something else.
Event items should have no stat benefit - they should solely be a prize for completing an event, and the item itself is a badge of honor.
then events wouldn't really have benefit :|
It'll be like receiving fireworks that you can't redeem.
I'm still confused what fireworks are :\
Quote from: Surgeypurgey on August 09, 2012, 04:38:52 PM
I'm still confused what fireworks are :\
Fireworks, you collect 10 of them and then you redeem them on the site.
You can either get
1day meto wings
1 week meto wings
30 day meto wings
1 year meto wings
Or perm meto wings
Stats: +45 crt,evade,luck, special trans +165 speed.
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 09, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
Quote from: Surgeypurgey on August 09, 2012, 04:38:52 PM
I'm still confused what fireworks are :\
Fireworks, you collect 10 of them and then you redeem them on the site.
You can either get
1day meto wings
1 week meto wings
30 day meto wings
1 year meto wings
Or perm meto wings
Stats: +45 crt,evade,luck, special trans +165 speed.
How do you get them?
They were drops during the 4th of july event. Now you can only get them buy purchasing from other members.
You can't get 1year meto wings.
oo
This thread is a good thread.
I'm sure some of the staff complaints may be directed towards me, and I absolutely agree. I haven't been nearly active enough. As well, don't feel afraid to point out other staff members that you think are doing their jobs incorrectly. I feel like Selene gets harped on frequently, but there are other staff members that need to step it up, as well. If you actually mention us directly, instead of doing the whole "other staff members included" ordeal, it creates accountability for us. This will push us to work harder. Or it should, at least. If someone becomes defensive, that may just show that they aren't a great choice for that position.
Staff applications could be opened only when we're looking for a new staff member? They don't have to be open constantly...
^ I agree with bobo, I'd really love to have a thread made by Allie or Tricky in which they point out the flaws of each and every staff member.
Quote from: hawk5005 on August 10, 2012, 05:06:28 PM
^ I agree with bobo, I'd really love to have a thread made by Allie or Tricky in which they point out the flaws of each and every staff member.
Allie has no idea about ingame staff since she is rarely on ingame.
She'll just pick her favourites.
Allies in game at least 3 times a week :|
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 10, 2012, 07:01:47 PM
Allies in game at least 3 times a week :|
Currently yes.
Usually no.
Quote from: hawk5005 on August 10, 2012, 05:06:28 PM
^ I agree with bobo, I'd really love to have a thread made by Allie or Tricky in which they point out the flaws of each and every staff member.
hawk- can be mean and sarcastic sometimes :(
Quote from: hawk5005 on August 10, 2012, 05:06:28 PM
^ I agree with bobo, I'd really love to have a thread made by Allie or Tricky in which they point out the flaws of each and every staff member.
I agree it would be great if Tricky or Allie point out the flaws.
Yea that would be cool, We would get to know there true opinion about us. :)
Lolz sounds good I'll do it in the staff section today :D
awww this is so cool <3
change is coming my friends
This was very moving, true and from the mind of a great person. +infinity
Quote from: showman13 on August 11, 2012, 03:14:31 AM
This was very moving, true and from the mind of a great person. +infinity
lol i never knew a rant could be moving..
Quote from: Cooky on August 11, 2012, 03:27:22 AM
Quote from: showman13 on August 11, 2012, 03:14:31 AM
This was very moving, true and from the mind of a great person. +infinity
lol i never knew a rant could be moving..
You must mean "i never knew a rant about a game could be moving" because rants are meant to be moving o_O
read pretty much the whole thing. NICE SPEECH! lol
I actually think this game is pretty well of. Drama within a community is unavoidable and without them I think we'd be all bored to death. A few things like event items from perm to temp, notifying members of even minor changes, and assigning staff members specific sections to monitor(Anti's idea) should be addressed though.
I think with this topic, even no one can see physical changes yet, the heartfelt opinions is taken into consideration. C=
Edit* Urm, the only drama free place I know on the internet is like, the tumblr fandoms. <3 Which are quite lovely but it's mostly fangirls n stuff.. and bc is like.. full of guys
Quote from: Yz on August 10, 2012, 11:57:21 PM
Lolz sounds good I'll do it in the staff section today :D
BUT WE ARE CURIOUS
This is still going on? xD
Quote from: zomniethe4 on August 08, 2012, 09:37:20 PMHopefully this doesn't turn into a Gavin type of text but if it manages to it'll probably be for the better.
*thinks back to the days when Acclaim's mods disliked me for being a one-word/one-sentence spammer*
I used to make fun of Voodoo for his massive posts and now I've started doing it. Now that
you've called me out on
my walls-of-text, you're going to start doing it too. It's a disease man, run while you still can! D: