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Title: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:21:42 PM
There has been a huge amount of crashes in the asia region over the past year or so.

One plane full of 250something people just disappeared, not even a screw or bolt found by rescuers (this plane has been presumed to be crashed and in the bottom of an ocean somewhere, with all bodies still strapped in dead getting eaten by the fishies)

One plane was shot down with a missile, killing all passengers and crew.

One plane crash landed in the java sea, killing all 160something passengers and crew.

And today, another plane crashed somewhere in asia killing at least half of the passengers, 15 was reported to have survived, and the video is here:

〈獨家〉復興客機墜河/高架橋上目擊民航機墜河畫面 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYczDsj0ATI#ws)

Is it worth dying over to get somewhere faster?  I mean if you crash and die in a car, at least they will find your body, as opposed to a finger, or even nothing if you crash in a plane.

as a quick joke reference:

The Plane was flown by pilot Ho Lee Fuk and copilots We Tu Lo, Som Ting Wong, and Bang Ding Ou
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Xx Itz Ian on February 04, 2015, 08:23:26 PM
overhyped media bullshit. Way more people die in car accidents. By plane is by far the safest way of traveling imo.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:26:16 PM
Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on February 04, 2015, 08:23:26 PM
overhyped media bullshit. Way more people die in car accidents. By plane is by far the safest way of traveling imo.

I wouldn't necessarily say its over-hyped by the media.  Their just reporting the news, and when hundreds of people die in one shot, thats pretty terrible, as opposed to a few people dying in a car accident.  Plus, at least they have a body to bury for you if you die in a car.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: VictorxM on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.

Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Cooky on February 04, 2015, 08:30:09 PM
yes i would still fly
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: trashburmy on February 04, 2015, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:26:16 PM
Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on February 04, 2015, 08:23:26 PM
overhyped media bullshit. Way more people die in car accidents. By plane is by far the safest way of traveling imo.

I wouldn't necessarily say its over-hyped by the media.  Their just reporting the news, and when hundreds of people die in one shot, thats pretty terrible, as opposed to a few people dying in a car accident.  Plus, at least they have a body to bury for you if you die in a car.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: VictorxM on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.

The more you fly, the higher chance of you getting in a plane crash.  The same goes for driving, but at least I have never been in a serious car crash, the most I've ever had was a fender bender going 4 miles an hour.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Xx Itz Ian on February 04, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.

The more you fly, the higher chance of you getting in a plane crash. 

if you look at the world like that you are going to have a hard time. everything in life is dangerous so plane crashes aren't that much different from regular things everyone does daily that can kill a person but yet you hear nobody about. i travel by train daily seeing people jump in front of trains on a weekly base, travel by car daily knowing that there is atleast 10 car accidents that killed a person a day yet i do not bother thinking about those things because there isnt anything you can do about it anyway.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Santa on February 04, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on February 04, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.

The more you fly, the higher chance of you getting in a plane crash.

if you look at the world like that you are going to have a hard time. everything in life is dangerous so plane crashes aren't that much different from regular things everyone does daily that can kill a person but yet you hear nobody about. i travel by train daily seeing people jump in front of trains on a weekly base, travel by car daily knowing that there is atleast 10 car accidents that killed a person a day yet i do not bother thinking about those things because there isnt anything you can do about it anyway.

I mainly just look at flying as a unnecessary risk, putting your life in the hands of others.  For example, I never let anyone drive me places, I drive myself.  This way I can control my fate, unlike when you put your life in the hands of 2 pilots that may not be adequately trained to pilot a crash landing to prevent the most possible deaths.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: VictorxM on February 04, 2015, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.

The more you fly, the higher chance of you getting in a plane crash.  The same goes for driving, but at least I have never been in a serious car crash, the most I've ever had was a fender bender going 4 miles an hour.

This is true, but it is not the same as saying that my chances are multiplying.
Lets say that my 100th flitgh is the 1st for someone. His chances of dying does not not increase just because it is my 100th flight, neither does mine decreases because it is his 1st. It is always the same -- 1/11.000.000, wich, btw, is less than dying in a shark attack.

But yeah, I agree that I put myself into more danger by flying a lot. But hopefuly this will stop this year.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Cooky on February 04, 2015, 09:04:57 PM
if it ever gets dangerous to fly they will give people parachutes
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Santa on February 04, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.

The more you fly, the higher chance of you getting in a plane crash.  The same goes for driving, but at least I have never been in a serious car crash, the most I've ever had was a fender bender going 4 miles an hour.

This is true, but it is not the same as saying that my chances are multiplying.
Lets say that my 100th flitgh is the 1st for someone. His chances of dying does not not increase just because it is my 100th flight, neither does mine decreases because it is his 1st. It is always the same -- 1/11.000.000, wich, btw, is less than dying in a shark attack.

But yeah, I agree that I put myself into more danger by flying a lot. But hopefuly this will stop this year.

Sorry for the confusion, I didn't mean your chance multiples, it just makes you have more of a chance to get in a crash.

@cooky
They will never do this.  Then there would be mishaps happening all the time from something like this, such as a computer chip malfunctions and sends someone shooting out of their seat out of the plane.  Plus, I'm not sure how well they could design a plane to fit 300 parachutes/design a way to make people be able to get out in time b4 it crashes.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: VictorxM on February 04, 2015, 09:09:38 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.

The more you fly, the higher chance of you getting in a plane crash.  The same goes for driving, but at least I have never been in a serious car crash, the most I've ever had was a fender bender going 4 miles an hour.

This is true, but it is not the same as saying that my chances are multiplying.
Lets say that my 100th flitgh is the 1st for someone. His chances of dying does not not increase just because it is my 100th flight, neither does mine decreases because it is his 1st. It is always the same -- 1/11.000.000, wich, btw, is less than dying in a shark attack.

But yeah, I agree that I put myself into more danger by flying a lot. But hopefuly this will stop this year.

Sorry for the confusion, I didn't mean your chance multiples, it just makes you have more of a chance to get in a crash.

I know, I was just messing with you. :P
Well, I got to go, my course of electrical engineering starts tomorrow. Wish me good luck.
Nice talking to you. Good night, Santa!
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Cooky on February 04, 2015, 09:14:23 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 09:05:39 PM
@cooky
They will never do this.  Then there would be mishaps happening all the time from something like this, such as a computer chip malfunctions and sends someone shooting out of their seat out of the plane.  Plus, I'm not sure how well they could design a plane to fit 300 parachutes/design a way to make people be able to get out in time b4 it crashes.

they just need to put a door on side of the plane (they already have this)  and when plane lose control they announce to jump out  and the door opens. maybe that will work
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Pokeh on February 04, 2015, 09:34:53 PM
here's my opinion that I feel everyone should at least watch/consider:

AirAsia Plane Vanishes, But Here's Some Much-Needed Perspective (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhGWOS6AFgQ#ws)
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: gombo08 on February 04, 2015, 09:43:50 PM
Just stay at home and play BC lel
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: STC Zero on February 04, 2015, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: gombo08 on February 04, 2015, 09:43:50 PM
Just stay at home and play BC lel

NICE IDEA!!!! +100000 :P
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: medchiller on February 04, 2015, 10:09:38 PM
Gunna fly just like every other time. More likely to do in a car crash than a plane. If I live life worrying about things that could kill me I would go crazy. Agree with Pokeh's video.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Cooky on February 04, 2015, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: medchiller on February 04, 2015, 10:09:38 PM
Agree with Pokeh's video.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Thornz on February 04, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
According to this study, you're actually far more likely to die from a train crash, falling out of bed, or using a right-handed tool if you are left-handed. So yeah, I'd still fly if I needed too, lol. I usually don't cause of lack of money for travel, but yeah...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/scientists-calculate-odd-ways-die-282884 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/scientists-calculate-odd-ways-die-282884)
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Eat4two on February 05, 2015, 06:00:22 PM
well, flight accidents are in many peoples eyes considerable more frightening than anything else as chances are high they end in a fatal outcome. so i wouldnt say the number of accidents is what scares us, but the number of fatalities/accident. iow i can understand those with a fear of flying.
i actually had a flight over russia (close to ukraine) the same day as the malaysian arilines flight was shot down. ofc i was a little bit more worried than usual, it wont stop me from flying again tho.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Madprox on February 06, 2015, 02:43:18 AM
I fly daily.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Iridion on February 06, 2015, 07:39:04 AM
i was forced to take a plane shortly after the malaysian events and was kinda scared
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Robocop7ant on February 06, 2015, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on February 04, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.

The more you fly, the higher chance of you getting in a plane crash.

if you look at the world like that you are going to have a hard time. everything in life is dangerous so plane crashes aren't that much different from regular things everyone does daily that can kill a person but yet you hear nobody about. i travel by train daily seeing people jump in front of trains on a weekly base, travel by car daily knowing that there is atleast 10 car accidents that killed a person a day yet i do not bother thinking about those things because there isnt anything you can do about it anyway.

I mainly just look at flying as a unnecessary risk, putting your life in the hands of others.  For example, I never let anyone drive me places, I drive myself.  This way I can control my fate, unlike when you put your life in the hands of 2 pilots that may not be adequately trained to pilot a crash landing to prevent the most possible deaths.

You drive yourself places,and control your fate?
What if a other car hits you? Or bus? Etc..
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Santa on February 06, 2015, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: Robocop7ant on February 06, 2015, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on February 04, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Santa on February 04, 2015, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: sora007 on February 04, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Answering the title question: I actually travel a lot by plane, since my family is all spread up thoughout the country. For the past 8-9 years I flew about 100 times. Last year, was 16 planes that I had to took. And everytime I got into the plane I would get a little scared, but not enough to make me stop flying. Even with all these crashes it is the better way to travel, IMO.



I suppose for you it would maybe make sense to fly since you have family throughout the world, but your chances of getting in a plane crash multiply every time you board one.  That brace for impact they tell you before you crash will do nothing once you belly flop onto concrete or water in a plane.  Not many people survive plane crashes, that may be due to being strapped into seats and drowning, unsure the main cause of death in planes, but these recent plane crashes have gotten me worried.  I will have to say thank god this one crashed somewhere where rescuers could react fast and save lives, else they would have all died.

I dont understand how the chances mutiply everytime I get onto a plane.

The more you fly, the higher chance of you getting in a plane crash.

if you look at the world like that you are going to have a hard time. everything in life is dangerous so plane crashes aren't that much different from regular things everyone does daily that can kill a person but yet you hear nobody about. i travel by train daily seeing people jump in front of trains on a weekly base, travel by car daily knowing that there is atleast 10 car accidents that killed a person a day yet i do not bother thinking about those things because there isnt anything you can do about it anyway.

I mainly just look at flying as a unnecessary risk, putting your life in the hands of others.  For example, I never let anyone drive me places, I drive myself.  This way I can control my fate, unlike when you put your life in the hands of 2 pilots that may not be adequately trained to pilot a crash landing to prevent the most possible deaths.

You drive yourself places,and control your fate?
What if a other car hits you? Or bus? Etc..

You can generally avoid wrecks from other people by being aware of what is coming towards you.  For example, one time I noticed someone was not going to stop at a red light, where I was stopped, so I just ran the red light and pulled over to avoid the wreck.  I mean sure it's bound to happen that you will be involved in a crash, but you have a much much higher chance of living in a car crash.
Title: Re: Would you fly again after all these plane crashes recently?
Post by: Thornz on February 06, 2015, 05:47:06 PM
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Too bad it's pretty difficult to drive oversees ::)