[unique]

- Highest E.F allowed is Swirlon (Lv 150 E.F)
-No Coin items. (Includes Code Red the gigas trans)

ew no D:

how about highest ef allowed is swirlon +3 for gigas ones, only BOUT/BOTS event ones allowed??

and no coin items? what is this.

basically everyone can afford them, theres no reason to not have them.

How about members have a cap of +5 and non-members can use up to +7?

I like this

[Pokeh]

give reasons why.

trying to keep it balanced.

- Highest E.F allowed is Swirlon (Lv 150 E.F)
-No Coin items. (Includes Code Red the gigas trans)

ew no D:

how about highest ef allowed is swirlon +3 for gigas ones, only BOUT/BOTS event ones allowed??

and no coin items? what is this.

basically everyone can afford them, theres no reason to not have them.

How about members have a cap of +5 and non-members can use up to +7?

I like this

no event e.f's, i meant swirlon +3 obv when i said it, and coin items are cancer.

[unique]

no event e.f's, i meant swirlon +3 obv when i said it, and coin items are cancer.

I know u meant swirlon +3 >_>

how about a vote for keeping coin items in or not

[Trustinme]

btw all the items listed will be given to the winner only ? or he choses from them?

[Pokeh]

probably spread to the top 3.

depends on how many people enter/etc.

[Blessed]

uh, i personaly don't have a +5 set for 150 :/ only +7\

and don't mem's get more dmg? cuz of teh lvl??? +7 150 should be max j/s

[Pokeh]

uh, i personaly don't have a +5 set for 150 :/ only +7\

and don't mem's get more dmg? cuz of teh lvl??? +7 150 should be max j/s

i said non-mems can have +7 while mems have +5.

probably will leave some things the same cuz it'll be so hard to keep track of the rules with all the entries.

soo +7 for all.

and ya everytime you level your base stats increase too.

[Iridion]

how about ur rules + coinless

[Fyah]

Why not lv 1 naked tourny?

[Pokeh]

Why not lv 1 naked tourny?

cuz then its not skill its just who can give most hits with take least hits.

[Epic xD]

^Isn't that what skill is in PvP? DERP

[Pokeh]

^Isn't that what skill is in PvP? DERP

the jyst of it.

throw in evade/ta/tg/ts/td etc. and you have real pvp.

throw in too much, and it gets op like it is now

[Rossbach]

^Isn't that what skill is in PvP? DERP

the jyst of it.

throw in evade/ta/tg/ts/td etc. and you have real pvp.

throw in too much, and it gets op like it is now

So some one with higher stats beating a person with lower stats is skill, while 2 people fighting at the same lv and stats is not?

Being able to hit more time than you get hit takes skill.

Nacked lv 1 tourney = win.

[Pokeh]

^Isn't that what skill is in PvP? DERP

the jyst of it.

throw in evade/ta/tg/ts/td etc. and you have real pvp.

throw in too much, and it gets op like it is now

So some one with higher stats beating a person with lower stats is skill, while 2 people fighting at the same lv and stats is not?

Being able to hit more time than you get hit takes skill.

Nacked lv 1 tourney = win.

obv it takes skill. but the winner will only be proclaimed "#1" in blocking most and possibly camping most if it's an FFA or something.

Whereas if it were an FFA room of a bunch of patch/ram/surges with their own abilities and weaknesses and you won would be more of a winning feat.

What i'm trying to do is balance it so it would be more fair for a lv 150 vs a lv 200.

Think of the possibilities in a lv 1 coinless game.

Now think of the possibilities in an FFA lv 150-200 room.

[Rossbach]

^Isn't that what skill is in PvP? DERP

the jyst of it.

throw in evade/ta/tg/ts/td etc. and you have real pvp.

throw in too much, and it gets op like it is now

So some one with higher stats beating a person with lower stats is skill, while 2 people fighting at the same lv and stats is not?

Being able to hit more time than you get hit takes skill.

Nacked lv 1 tourney = win.

obv it takes skill. but the winner will only be proclaimed "#1" in blocking most and possibly camping most if it's an FFA or something.

Whereas if it were an FFA room of a bunch of patch/ram/surges with their own abilities and weaknesses and you won would be more of a winning feat.

What i'm trying to do is balance it so it would be more fair for a lv 150 vs a lv 200.

Think of the possibilities in a lv 1 coinless game.

Now think of the possibilities in an FFA lv 150-200 room.

FFA has very little to do with skill, as some person could be stalked, teamed, ect while another one just hides, thus ffa = not fair. Just make them 1v1, lv 1, same stats = fair as none has an advantage other the other. Of course some one with good def can win as def takes skill, same with getting around that def. If they camp then it is the skill of the person camping vs the skill of the person getting around that camping.