Right now you can't sell your account to another player for real life currency. What I suggest is that a player could sell their account to ZG for a little bit of money. Then, for ZG to make profit, would take those accounts and sell them for something like 50% more.
Let's say someone doesn't want to play anymore and has a perm membership, they could sell their account for like $20 and ZG could re sell it for like $150 since perm is like $100 and the grinding done by the player would probably be worth something too. Basically ZG is recycling inactive accounts and using players levels/amount of exp for even more profits.
8)
totally agree kinda like that runescape website rs4gold they will buy an account for lets say $20 and sell for $100 easy. I think ZG would make a lot more money off of this.
The problem with this would be Zylon Gaming would have to invest into accounts, when they may not got their money back. A better system would be to sell accounts to others through the website, and have ZG take a % of the money.
Either way I doubt it would happen because companies being involved in selling/buying player accounts is generally a bad idea.
Quote from: Purple on October 12, 2013, 12:02:37 AM
The problem with this would be Zylon Gaming would have to invest into accounts, when they may not got their money back. A better system would be to sell accounts to others through the website, and have ZG take a % of the money.
Either way I doubt it would happen because companies being involved in selling/buying player accounts is generally a bad idea.
I guess disputes could cause some trouble unless players agree to a ToS or something
Quote from: Purple on October 12, 2013, 12:02:37 AM
A better system would be to sell accounts to others through the website, and have ZG take a % of the money.
very wise
Also:
If ZG paid $20 for an account with perm membership on it, it would just be sold in secret for a higher price. This would create a bidding war between players and ZG. There also wouldn't be a way for them to tell if it was actually sold or if it was just given away.
Quote from: Purple on October 12, 2013, 12:08:18 AM
Also:
If ZG paid $20 for an account with perm membership on it, it would just be sold in secret for a higher price. This would create a bidding war between players and ZG. There also wouldn't be a way for them to tell if it was actually sold or if it was just given away.
can do that now too
Quote from: 123bomb123 on October 12, 2013, 12:10:40 AM
Quote from: Purple on October 12, 2013, 12:08:18 AM
Also:
If ZG paid $20 for an account with perm membership on it, it would just be sold in secret for a higher price. This would create a bidding war between players and ZG. There also wouldn't be a way for them to tell if it was actually sold or if it was just given away.
can do that now too
Exactly. That's kind of my point. ZG would have to pay enough to make it worthwhile for a person to sell it to ZG instead of a player, but that price may be too high to make the risk worth it.
The only reason a player would sell to ZG for a lower price than the player market, would be if they were afraid of getting banned, which I feel like is a small group of people. Then again you do have the fact that someone could buy your account and then force a refund.
Basically: I don't think ZG would wanna go that deep into buying/selling player accounts considering all the risks i've pointed out within this thread. I feel like doing what I mentioned above would be what they would do if they did it. Not that they would, because as I said before buying/selling player accounts as the company that owns the game is generally something that you wanna stay away from.
thats like me buying an ipod and then if i wanna resell it i have to verify it through apple and they get commission for it.
Quote from: Pokeh on October 12, 2013, 12:31:06 AM
thats like me buying an ipod and then if i wanna resell it i have to verify it through apple and they get commission for it.
that would make sense... if people had to pay for an account as they do an Ipod
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
you could always use staff as a middle man
Quote from: Cooky on October 12, 2013, 12:46:44 AM
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
you could always use staff as a middle man
True but you cant have staff there 24/7.
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
Both mine and Misterz's posts don't have this problem. Money would be going to ZG in both of our scenarios so the account must be going through ZG.
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
before getting money, you sell it to ZG. where the account will be locked until ZG finds a buyer. There's no way to scam unless someone files a dispute or something with pay pal.
That's why it's suggested with two steps instead of one (ZG taking a portion) because it could work but in the perfect situation that nobody is a douche.
Quote from: Purple on October 12, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
Both mine and Misterz's posts don't have this problem. Money would be going to ZG in both of our scenarios so the account must be going through ZG.
Quote from: 123bomb123 on October 12, 2013, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
before getting money, you sell it to ZG. where the account will be locked until ZG finds a buyer. There's no way to scam unless someone files a dispute or something with pay pal.
That's why it's suggested with two steps instead of one (ZG taking a portion) because it could work but in the perfect situation that nobody is a douche.
If they use this Idea I think they should use purple's idea. But what if someone hacks another person account just to sell it?
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:57:33 AM
Quote from: Purple on October 12, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
Both mine and Misterz's posts don't have this problem. Money would be going to ZG in both of our scenarios so the account must be going through ZG.
Quote from: 123bomb123 on October 12, 2013, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
before getting money, you sell it to ZG. where the account will be locked until ZG finds a buyer. There's no way to scam unless someone files a dispute or something with pay pal.
That's why it's suggested with two steps instead of one (ZG taking a portion) because it could work but in the perfect situation that nobody is a douche.
If we they use this Idea I think they should use purple's idea. But what if someone hacks another person account just to sell it?
That's one of the reasons why ZG being involved in selling/buying accounts would be a bad idea.
Could do something like each time a foreign ip is connected to the account the account holder has to wait 30 days to sell it, but inactive accounts could still get hacked & sold.
Quote from: Purple on October 12, 2013, 01:00:26 AM
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:57:33 AM
Quote from: Purple on October 12, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
Both mine and Misterz's posts don't have this problem. Money would be going to ZG in both of our scenarios so the account must be going through ZG.
Quote from: 123bomb123 on October 12, 2013, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: paranoia on October 12, 2013, 12:44:05 AM
Its a good/bad Idea. I like the concept but unless we can find a way where we can have a fair trade system so players won't get scammed it wont be smart to have this. For example: I am selling my account and take someones money who buys it for $50 and I take the money then don't give them my account.
before getting money, you sell it to ZG. where the account will be locked until ZG finds a buyer. There's no way to scam unless someone files a dispute or something with pay pal.
That's why it's suggested with two steps instead of one (ZG taking a portion) because it could work but in the perfect situation that nobody is a douche.
If we they use this Idea I think they should use purple's idea. But what if someone hacks another person account just to sell it?
That's one of the reasons why ZG being involved in selling/buying accounts would be a bad idea.
Could do something like each time a foreign ip is connected to the account the account holder has to wait 30 days to sell it, but inactive accounts could still get hacked & sold.
I really dont know how this is going to work, let me do some research.
I don't understand. Why would ZG want to buy an account for their own game? Can't they just make an account and give it a bunch of crap then sell it to someone?
You haven't checked out our ToS.
Quote1.3. Subject to your acceptance of these Terms of Use, Company grants to you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, revocable limited license to use and display the Service and related software (excluding source and object code) for your personal non-commercial use. You agree not to use the Service for any other purpose, or to copy or distribute the content of the Service except as specifically allowed in these Terms of Use.
If we ever wanted to do this (which we wouldn't), we reserve the right to revoke ownership from any account in our database, and sell it to another player if we so wish.
Quote from: Reviax on October 12, 2013, 03:23:33 AM
I don't understand. Why would ZG want to buy an account for their own game? Can't they just make an account and give it a bunch of crap then sell it to someone?
more items in the game
+1
Quote from: qolderman on October 12, 2013, 11:17:58 AM
+1
I don't see a point in +1ing the suggestion when Allie already said that they wouldn't be doing this.
+1
gz Z for idea
Quote from: Allie on October 12, 2013, 03:41:32 AM
You haven't checked out our ToS.
Quote1.3. Subject to your acceptance of these Terms of Use, Company grants to you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, revocable limited license to use and display the Service and related software (excluding source and object code) for your personal non-commercial use. You agree not to use the Service for any other purpose, or to copy or distribute the content of the Service except as specifically allowed in these Terms of Use.
If we ever wanted to do this (which we wouldn't), we reserve the right to revoke ownership from any account in our database, and sell it to another player if we so wish.
for the +1'ers
Quote from: Toast on October 12, 2013, 11:38:43 AM
Quote from: Allie on October 12, 2013, 03:41:32 AM
You haven't checked out our ToS.
Quote1.3. Subject to your acceptance of these Terms of Use, Company grants to you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, revocable limited license to use and display the Service and related software (excluding source and object code) for your personal non-commercial use. You agree not to use the Service for any other purpose, or to copy or distribute the content of the Service except as specifically allowed in these Terms of Use.
If we ever wanted to do this (which we wouldn't), we reserve the right to revoke ownership from any account in our database, and sell it to another player if we so wish.
for the +1'ers
aka postcounters
Quote from: 123bomb123 on October 12, 2013, 03:43:51 AM
Quote from: Reviax on October 12, 2013, 03:23:33 AM
I don't understand. Why would ZG want to buy an account for their own game? Can't they just make an account and give it a bunch of crap then sell it to someone?
more items in the game
What would be so bad about having more items in the game though?
Quote from: Reviax on October 13, 2013, 12:56:16 AM
Quote from: 123bomb123 on October 12, 2013, 03:43:51 AM
Quote from: Reviax on October 12, 2013, 03:23:33 AM
I don't understand. Why would ZG want to buy an account for their own game? Can't they just make an account and give it a bunch of crap then sell it to someone?
more items in the game
What would be so bad about having more items in the game though?
It messes with the economy of the game.
ill be a middleman if the admins ever change their minds. 8)
Quote from: Purple on October 13, 2013, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Reviax on October 13, 2013, 12:56:16 AM
What would be so bad about having more items in the game though?
It messes with the economy of the game.
How? New items are generated every time somebody buys ZC anyways. Isn't it the same thing?
Quote from: Reviax on October 13, 2013, 01:11:55 AM
Quote from: Purple on October 13, 2013, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Reviax on October 13, 2013, 12:56:16 AM
What would be so bad about having more items in the game though?
It messes with the economy of the game.
How? New items are generated every time somebody buys ZC anyways. Isn't it the same thing?
I'll give an example.
Let's say that on an average week, only one perm Jura trans is bought from the zylon shop because it's so expensive. The price of a perm Jura trans is based on how many of them there are in-game, so the rate at which they enter the game is important.
If ZylonGaming suddenly sells 10 accounts that have a perm Jura trans in them, that's now spiked the the number of Jura trans in the game, depreciating its value.
Quote from: Purple on October 13, 2013, 01:16:32 AM
Quote from: Reviax on October 13, 2013, 01:11:55 AM
Quote from: Purple on October 13, 2013, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Reviax on October 13, 2013, 12:56:16 AM
What would be so bad about having more items in the game though?
It messes with the economy of the game.
How? New items are generated every time somebody buys ZC anyways. Isn't it the same thing?
I'll give an example.
Let's say that on an average week, only one perm Jura trans is bought from the zylon shop because it's so expensive. The price of a perm Jura trans is based on how many of them there are in-game, so the rate at which they enter the game is important.
If ZylonGaming suddenly sells 10 accounts that have a perm Jura trans in them, that's now spiked the the number of Jura trans in the game, depreciating its value.
Yes, spawning 10 Jura's into the game impacts things. But if the accounts don't sell then it means nothing if the Jura's are in the game. The Jura's would be unusable until the account is sold. If that's the case, then buying an account with a Jura would be more expensive and would bring 1 more Jura into BoutCheetah. The way I see it, that's exactly the same as buying a Jura straight out of the Zylon Shop except an account would also come along with it for an additional price. So a person would more or less still be paying the same expensive price of the item. The value would depreciate like you said, but it will also be decreasing every week anyways even without the accounts for sale.
In short, the only thing that I see has changed is that people can now buy accounts and Zylon makes more money.
More money is the point!!!
allie said no is the point!!
How about, you tell ZG you are selling your account, the will put it up for sale and when it it sold they will give the person that wanted to sell the account a small amount of money.
E.G. Someone wants to sell their account for 20 USD, they tell ZG and it will be for sale for 100 USD. When the account sells the account the player that wanted to sell the account will get the 20 USD and ZG will keep 80 USD. With this ZG will lose no money buying accounts and the people that quit can wait a bit longer, but I don't see this happening tbh.