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Three gods A, B, and C are called, in no particular order, True, False, and Random. True always speaks truly, False always speaks falsely, but whether Random speaks truly or falsely is a completely random matter. Your task is to determine the identities of A, B, and C by asking three yes-no questions; each question must be put to exactly one god. The gods understand English, but will answer all questions in their own language, in which the words for yes and no are 'da' and 'ja', in some order. You do not know which word means which."
The following clarifications are provided:[1]
"It could be that some god gets asked more than one question (and hence that some god is not asked any question at all).
What the second question is, and to which god it is put, may depend on the answer to the first question. (And of course similarly for the third question.)
Whether Random speaks truly or not should be thought of as depending on the flip of a coin hidden in his brain: if the coin comes down heads, he speaks truly; if tails, falsely.
Random will answer 'da' or 'ja' when asked any yes-no question.[1]"
Good luck :)
lol if u ask the false one this question, he will answer falsely.
1. A, do you speak truely or falsely?
2. B, do you speak truely?
3. C, do you speak falsely?
I guessed
EDIT: Solve this!
A man was found dead in his study. He was slumped over his desk and a gun was in his hand. There was a cassette recorder on his desk. When the police entered the room and pressed the play button on the tape recorder they heard: "I can't go on. I have nothing to live for." Then there was the sound of a gunshot. How did the detective immediately know that the man had been murdered and it wasn't a suicide?
Quote from: bangaer2 on March 16, 2011, 06:33:01 AM
lol if u ask the false one this question, he will answer falsely.
1. A, do you speak truely or falsely?
2. B, do you speak truely?
3. C, do you speak falsely?
I guessed
EDIT: Solve this!
A man was found dead in his study. He was slumped over his desk and a gun was in his hand. There was a cassette recorder on his desk. When the police entered the room and pressed the play button on the tape recorder they heard: "I can't go on. I have nothing to live for." Then there was the sound of a gunshot. How did the detective immediately know that the man had been murdered and it wasn't a suicide?
I'm thinking the police officer would have had to have rewound it? Unless that's assumed...
Quote from: bangaer2 on March 16, 2011, 06:33:01 AM
lol if u ask the false one this question, he will answer falsely.
1. A, do you speak truely or falsely?
2. B, do you speak truely?
3. C, do you speak falsely?
I guessed
EDIT: Solve this!
A man was found dead in his study. He was slumped over his desk and a gun was in his hand. There was a cassette recorder on his desk. When the police entered the room and pressed the play button on the tape recorder they heard: "I can't go on. I have nothing to live for." Then there was the sound of a gunshot. How did the detective immediately know that the man had been murdered and it wasn't a suicide?
if the police entered and pressed the play button means that the registration was stopped.
if the man suicided, he could not stop the registration.
the man who killed him shot and stopped the registration.
Quote from: Iridion on March 16, 2011, 03:16:03 PM
Quote from: bangaer2 on March 16, 2011, 06:33:01 AM
lol if u ask the false one this question, he will answer falsely.
1. A, do you speak truely or falsely?
2. B, do you speak truely?
3. C, do you speak falsely?
I guessed
EDIT: Solve this!
A man was found dead in his study. He was slumped over his desk and a gun was in his hand. There was a cassette recorder on his desk. When the police entered the room and pressed the play button on the tape recorder they heard: "I can't go on. I have nothing to live for." Then there was the sound of a gunshot. How did the detective immediately know that the man had been murdered and it wasn't a suicide?
if the police entered and pressed the play button means that the registration was stopped.
if the man suicided, he could not stop the registration.
the man who killed him shot and stopped the registration.
Correct :)
U ALL SUCK
only opti likes your puzzle!
A, is the answer to this question no?
I ask this question because if an answer is given, than A is the random god.
Inferring no answer is given, this means A is either the truth or lie god.
A, are you going to sing the answer to this question?
I ask this question because the answer is definite: if A sings da or ja, then da or ja is yes. If they do not sing da or ja, then the opposite of what they say is yes.
Inferring A says ja without singing, this means A is the liar, and ja means no.
So what we've got so far is that A is the liar, and either B or C is the truth, the other the random.
B, is the answer to this question no?
I ask this question because if an answer is given, than B is the random god.
If B says any answer, whether it's yes or no, B is the random god.
Else, B is the truth god.
Inferring B says da or ja, B is the random god.
Because A is the lying god, and B is the random god, C is the truth god.
1. A, If I asked you 'Are you random?' in your current mental state, would you say 'ja'? - Assuming he says 'da', it would mean he is not the Random god, also assuming 'ja' is yes and 'da' is no.
2. A, If I asked you 'Are you true', would you say 'ja'? - If A says 'ja' than A is the True god, if A says 'da' than A is the false god. Which would also mean that C is False, or if the answer is 'da' than C is the True god.
Solution: It really depends what, and how you ask them questions. And also on what 'ja' and 'da' mean, but lets say that 'ja' means no and 'da' means yes, then the answer would be the opposite of what the other solution is. I do have to commend you though, for giving a puzzle that can have multiple outcomes, without ever giving that fact away.
Edit: Question to solve the 'ja' and 'da' meanings....... Does 'da' mean yes if and only if you are True if and only if B is Random?
Quote from: Xrow on March 16, 2011, 04:20:01 AM
If you look it up, please don't post the answer. Thank you.
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Three gods A, B, and C are called, in no particular order, True, False, and Random. True always speaks truly, False always speaks falsely, but whether Random speaks truly or falsely is a completely random matter. Your task is to determine the identities of A, B, and C by asking three yes-no questions; each question must be put to exactly one god. The gods understand English, but will answer all questions in their own language, in which the words for yes and no are 'da' and 'ja', in some order. You do not know which word means which."
The following clarifications are provided:[1]
"It could be that some god gets asked more than one question (and hence that some god is not asked any question at all).
What the second question is, and to which god it is put, may depend on the answer to the first question. (And of course similarly for the third question.)
Whether Random speaks truly or not should be thought of as depending on the flip of a coin hidden in his brain: if the coin comes down heads, he speaks truly; if tails, falsely.
Random will answer 'da' or 'ja' when asked any yes-no question.[1]"
Good luck :)
Just refer to them as true, false or random >_> Your making it confusing.
Personally, I would ask true and false this: "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
Quote from: Xrow on March 17, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
Just refer to them as true, false or random >_> Your making it confusing.
Personally, I would ask true and false this: "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
Ask A "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
You ask this because if A was ja, and it means yes, it's either true or random, if it's da, either false or random.
However, what if ja means no? Then it's either false or random.
Ask B the same question, "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
If B replies with 'ja', then you know one of the two are random and one of them are true or false, this is because the only way the two gods can answer the same is if one's saying a random one.
If they said different answers, however, you have no idea of proving whether one was the random or not, therefore you've gotten nowhere.
Quote from: Allie on March 17, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Xrow on March 17, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
Just refer to them as true, false or random >_> Your making it confusing.
Personally, I would ask true and false this: "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
Ask A "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
You ask this because if A was ja, and it means yes, it's either true or random, if it's da, either false or random.
However, what if ja means no? Then it's either false or random.
Nope, I ask it because I know its true that my name is David. UPDATE: "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David?,' would you agree by saying 'ja?' " There :3
Or even better, I would ask "If I were to ask you, 'Does ja mean yes?,' would you say 'ja?' " BOOM
Ask B the same question, "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
If B replies with 'ja', then you know one of the two are random and one of them are true or false, this is because the only way the two gods can answer the same is if one's saying a random one.
If they said different answers, however, you have no idea of proving whether one was the random or not, therefore you've gotten nowhere.
Quote from: Xrow on March 17, 2011, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: Allie on March 17, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Xrow on March 17, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
Just refer to them as true, false or random >_> Your making it confusing.
Personally, I would ask true and false this: "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
Ask A "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
You ask this because if A was ja, and it means yes, it's either true or random, if it's da, either false or random.
However, what if ja means no? Then it's either false or random.
Nope, I ask it because I know its true that my name is David. UPDATE: "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David?,' would you agree by saying 'ja?' " There :3
Or even better, I would ask "If I were to ask you, 'Does ja mean yes?,' would you say 'ja?' " BOOM
Ask B the same question, "If I were to ask you, 'Is my name David,' would you say 'ja?' "
If B replies with 'ja', then you know one of the two are random and one of them are true or false, this is because the only way the two gods can answer the same is if one's saying a random one.
If they said different answers, however, you have no idea of proving whether one was the random or not, therefore you've gotten nowhere.
That brings an interesting question.
"If ja means yes in your language, is the answer to this question yes?"
If the reply is ja, said god is either true or random, else it is either false or random.
How fail..... You all fail to realize that you won't know who you're talking to on the first question. Therefore if you actually find out who the true god is, ask them the question on the 3rd question and you'll have the answer....
I'm done with this puzzle as people are to arrogant to see this puzzle the way it is.
There is truth and then there is the perception of it.
Quote from: Faith on March 17, 2011, 08:49:45 PM
1. A, If I asked you 'Are you random?' in your current mental state, would you say 'ja'? - Assuming he says 'da', it would mean he is not the Random god, also assuming 'ja' is yes and 'da' is no.
"In your current mental state" was a clever addition. Well, we can't assume either way - although I would like to - so if he says 'da,' he very well could be random.
Unfortunately, that proved nothing. Sorry.
2. A, If I asked you 'Are you true', would you say 'ja'? - If A says 'ja' than A is the True god, if A says 'da' than A is the false god. Which would also mean that C is False, or if the answer is 'da' than C is the True god.
Solution: It really depends what, and how you ask them questions. And also on what 'ja' and 'da' mean, but lets say that 'ja' means no and 'da' means yes, then the answer would be the opposite of what the other solution is. I do have to commend you though, for giving a puzzle that can have multiple outcomes, without ever giving that fact away.
Your acting like you just solved it lol. I suppose you did, given that ja means yes and da means no, but that entirely defeats the point of the puzzle.
Edit: Question to solve the 'ja' and 'da' meanings....... Does 'da' mean yes if and only if you are True if and only if B is Random?
Quote from: Faith on March 17, 2011, 09:36:42 PM
How fail..... You all fail to realize that you won't know who you're talking to on the first question. Therefore if you actually find out who the true god is, ask them the question on the 3rd question and you'll have the answer....
I'm done with this puzzle as people are to arrogant to see this puzzle the way it is.
There is truth and then there is the perception of it.
1. Stop being condescending, your answer was far more false than either mine or Allies.
2. It doesn't matter if you know who your talking to, the question "If I were to ask, 'does ja mean true?,' would you say 'ja?' " is meant to find out. The only way that question could be beaten is if I was asking Random. In that case, I would change the question to: "If I were to ask you, 'Does ja mean true if and only if A is true, and if and only if B is false, and if and only if C is random,' would you say 'ja?' "
Either way, you should stop being condescending - in my opinion, your answer was the product of laziness.
This puzzle is very simple to me, I'm sorry if it's complicated to other people but thats not my problem. This puzzle is meant to twist the boundaries of logic, and make you think of multiple ways to ask questions that give the correct answer. Either way, this puzzle is completely up to chance, so there is no 100% way to get only one right answer.
Edit: And as a explanation to your rather stupid statement, you can assume the answers, up until you find out who the truthful god is, then you can ask the question. So in reality, you must assume which answer means what so you can find out which god is which. So you can find out the right answer. There is no real way to solve this without assuming something for however short a time.
Quote from: Faith on March 17, 2011, 09:50:44 PM
This puzzle is very simple to me, I'm sorry if it's complicated to other people but thats not my problem. This puzzle is meant to twist the boundaries of logic, and make you think of multiple ways to ask questions that give the correct answer. Either way, this puzzle is completely up to chance, so there is no 100% way to get only one right answer.
Edit: And as a explanation to your rather stupid statement, you can assume the answers, up until you find out who the truthful god is, then you can ask the question. So in reality, you must assume which answer means what so you can find out which god is which. So you can find out the right answer. There is no real way to solve this without assuming something for however short a time.
Woah. Faith, Your back?
Quote from: Faith on March 17, 2011, 09:50:44 PM
This puzzle is very simple to me, I'm sorry if it's complicated to other people but thats not my problem. You got the puzzle wrong o.O.. This puzzle is meant to twist the boundaries of logic How does it twist the laws of logic.., and make you think of multiple ways to ask questions that give the correct answer Duh. I know thinking is tough, but you can do it!. Either way, this puzzle is completely up to chance, so there is no 100% way to get only one right answer. Of course there is. You are simply too lazy to discover this answer, hence your easy-way-out assumption that 'ja' means 'yes' and that 'da' means 'no.'
Edit: And as a explanation to your rather stupid statement, you can assume the answers, up until you find out who the truthful god is, then you can ask the question. You just displayed an unbelievable skewed view of logic. I don't know if you realized this or not, but both the truthful god and the false god are truthful. If you don't understand what I mean, I'd love to explain it for you. So in reality, you must assume which answer means what so you can find out which god is which. Assuming what answer means what doesn't tell you anything o.O. And in reality, it leads you astray. You assumed that ja means yes and that da means no. If its the other way around, then you have just successfully made yourself look like an idiot. On top of this, if you ask all three of your questions under your aforementioned assumption, and your assumption was wrong, then wallah - you are both out of questions AND wrong. So you can find out the right answer. There is no real way to solve this without assuming something for however short a time. Untrue, but okay.