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So, I have 2.6mil myself most of the time. At the moment the system is 3000 stat points = max bonus, requiring 3 million bot stract.
With 2.6mil I can damage 4k with Upper 2 as a Patch
2k as a Surge with Dark meto
Trans as a Ram for 90 seconds standing still
I can easily last for 4+ minutes if I keep hitting people in PvP, and its never-ending in Sector when hitting viruses.

This is actually pretty imbalanced in my opinion - I haven't even hit the max limit. With 1.25mil as the limit giving 5000 stat bonus it's pretty insane. However everyone wants a change in the system it seems.

So we're just going to make multiple choices and do what the community wants. Take a vote :)

Old system ftw.

THE HIGHER BS YOU CAN DO AND LOWER BONUS YOU CAN DO
E.G. 5MIL BS = 2000 STATS

Maybe bs effects should just be removed and then give a armout boost instead.

BS should be cut out of pvp and base, while timers should be adjusted according to the level of the rm, while giving someone that's say level 200 more rounds before they get flagged, that way there's more room for them to **** up once and not get flagged.

Why not make a tag which disallows bs or something ?
If this was suggested already, I'm sorry, I don't have the time to check forums regularly.

Ofc, 2m bs with 5000 stat bonus is voted the most.
This community is greedy. >.>

Quote from: Toast on October 04, 2011, 06:55:03 PM
Ofc, 2m bs with 5000 stat bonus is voted the most.
This community is greedy. >.>

Yes. I voted it.
Either bs effect or not.

Quote from: NeoKiller on October 04, 2011, 06:52:40 PM
Why not make a tag which disallows bs or something ?
If this was suggested already, I'm sorry, I don't have the time to check forums regularly.

Kenny has been working on taking it out of PvP and Base entirely and a tag will probably be implemented along with it, though I cant say for sure.

4m for max, 1000-2000 max bonus.

Quote from: iwasbobo on October 04, 2011, 10:59:51 PM
4m for max, 1000-2000 max bonus.

We can dream.

Quote from: Yz on October 04, 2011, 11:10:17 PM

Quote from: iwasbobo on October 04, 2011, 10:59:51 PM
4m for max, 1000-2000 max bonus.

We can dream.

A dream would be to make it something completely unrelated to stats, such as colour changes or epic armarz!!!!11

Quote from: nanak tatum on October 05, 2011, 12:02:40 AM
Speaking of bot stract.....is pvp ever going to be how it use to be where if u suicide/get knocked bs drops??????????

No, that was stupid.

what the **** is with the stupid people doing 2m bs for 5000 stat points? Are you guys ****ing retarded ? I guess people like being op in pvp.

I think 2.5mil and 3k stat bonus is good.

 in my opinion, 2.4mil-4000 stats is good... ;)
at least 4000 stats is needed,
also  the range attack of surge must be changed for T.A.

I personally think that if you just up the limit and keep the stat bonus the same, IE 5000 total bonus, everything would be alright.

Remove the bot-stract system or make bot-stract trade-able for items that can only be obtained with bot-stract. Like a bot-stract shop.

i thought the old system was very good 2 mil for 5000 effect why i think that is because its not that overpowered maybe in pvp it is but if there is going to come a tag for it it wouldnt be overpowered at all so im for that now i hardly see a change and its not fun i spended allot money on it and now it gets reduced -.-

Quote from: denilligaal on October 05, 2011, 02:41:51 PM
i thought the old system was very good 2 mil for 5000 effect why i think that is because its not that overpowered maybe in pvp it is but if there is going to come a tag for it it wouldnt be overpowered at all so im for that now i hardly see a change and its not fun i spended allot money on it and now it gets reduced -.-

5000 Max stat would mean roughly 3000 damage bullets in PvP. Some Surges have up to 45 bullets in PvP. Five shots could kill you. :/ Only 2 shots to finish off any mob except major bosses.

The only use of bot-stract for me is selling it.

Quote from: eco999 on October 05, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
Remove the bot-stract system or make bot-stract trade-able for items that can only be obtained with bot-stract. Like a bot-stract shop.

Quote from: Yz on October 05, 2011, 02:44:28 PM

Quote from: denilligaal on October 05, 2011, 02:41:51 PM
i thought the old system was very good 2 mil for 5000 effect why i think that is because its not that overpowered maybe in pvp it is but if there is going to come a tag for it it wouldnt be overpowered at all so im for that now i hardly see a change and its not fun i spended allot money on it and now it gets reduced -.-

5000 Max stat would mean roughly 3000 damage bullets in PvP. Some Surges have up to 45 bullets in PvP. Five shots could kill you. :/ Only 2 shots to finish off any mob except major bosses.

but look when ur a high lvl u get the max bonus when u are high there allot of mobs and bosses and it aint fun to just shoot all mobs till there dead it would be boring thats why i fight and im patch i like the TA only affects bosses and if there is a tag for pvp coming than pvp wouldnt get affected ;)

Patches with 5000 Bonus would hit like 7000 damage Upper 2's. That's less fun to me.

NEW OPTION!!!5m bs for 5k stats

Quote from: deathraper on October 05, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
NEW OPTION!!!5m bs for 5k stats

I agree. I'd vote 5m, or even 10m bs for 5k bonus.

And to make farming bs against the rules, even without using multiple accounts.

Quote from: deathraper on October 05, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
NEW OPTION!!!5m bs for 5k stats

... No, the prices of bot stract would super inflate...

Not to mention 5m is a heckload.

Quote from: antisickness on October 05, 2011, 03:20:32 PM

Quote from: deathraper on October 05, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
NEW OPTION!!!5m bs for 5k stats

... No, the prices of bot stract would super inflate...

Not to mention 5m is a heckload.

A 5k stat upgrade is a heckload.

Quote from: 7ehNoob on October 05, 2011, 03:24:28 PM

Quote from: antisickness on October 05, 2011, 03:20:32 PM

Quote from: deathraper on October 05, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
NEW OPTION!!!5m bs for 5k stats

... No, the prices of bot stract would super inflate...

Not to mention 5m is a heckload.

A 5k stat upgrade is a heckload.

...Which is why I didn't vote for 5k stats.

5m, think about it. No one would reach that. let alone your idea of 10m. ;|

Quote from: eco999 on October 05, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
Remove the bot-stract system or make bot-stract trade-able for items that can only be obtained with bot-stract. Like a bot-stract shop.

YOU DECIDED TO USE BS TO RUIN GAME SO NOW TATS WAU U GET

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
YOU DECIDED TO USE BS TO RUIN GAME SO NOW TATS WAU U GET

2m and 5k stats isnt  going to ruin the game, besides santa may find a way to disable BS in PvP and BvB, so stand by patienly.

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
YOU DECIDED TO USE BS TO RUIN GAME SO NOW TATS WAU U GET

+1

Quotesanta may find a way to disable BS in PvP and BvB

Quote from: Forbiden on October 05, 2011, 04:25:01 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
YOU DECIDED TO USE BS TO RUIN GAME SO NOW TATS WAU U GET

2m and 5k stats isnt  going to ruin the game, besides santa may find a way to disable BS in PvP and BvB, so stand by patienly.

Hack-level damage ruins the game to most people. Most people enjoyed CB because it was a balanced time for example, and it went right back to imba again. I'm not fussed personally, but it's why some think it ruins the game mmk.

Quote from: Forbiden on October 05, 2011, 04:25:01 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
YOU DECIDED TO USE BS TO RUIN GAME SO NOW TATS WAU U GET

2m and 5k stats isnt  going to ruin the game, besides santa may find a way to disable BS in PvP and BvB, so stand by patienly.

go away op***

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:57:04 PM

Quote from: Forbiden on October 05, 2011, 04:25:01 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
YOU DECIDED TO USE BS TO RUIN GAME SO NOW TATS WAU U GET

2m and 5k stats isnt  going to ruin the game, besides santa may find a way to disable BS in PvP and BvB, so stand by patienly.

go away op***

Iridon speaks the bomb,the truth,the light. Listen to him.

Quote from: antisickness on October 05, 2011, 03:40:19 PM

Quote from: 7ehNoob on October 05, 2011, 03:24:28 PM

Quote from: antisickness on October 05, 2011, 03:20:32 PM

Quote from: deathraper on October 05, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
NEW OPTION!!!5m bs for 5k stats

... No, the prices of bot stract would super inflate...

Not to mention 5m is a heckload.

A 5k stat upgrade is a heckload.

...Which is why I didn't vote for 5k stats.

5m, think about it. No one would reach that. let alone your idea of 10m. ;|

sure they would be able to reach that, itd be hard and take a long time, but the bonus stats would be worth it. Plus it would benefit for the players who actually take the time to play the game. Its just my oppinion.

Add my two suggestions to the list.

Quote from: 7ehNoob on October 05, 2011, 07:53:58 PM

Quote from: antisickness on October 05, 2011, 03:40:19 PM

Quote from: 7ehNoob on October 05, 2011, 03:24:28 PM

Quote from: antisickness on October 05, 2011, 03:20:32 PM

Quote from: deathraper on October 05, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
NEW OPTION!!!5m bs for 5k stats

... No, the prices of bot stract would super inflate...

Not to mention 5m is a heckload.

A 5k stat upgrade is a heckload.

...Which is why I didn't vote for 5k stats.

5m, think about it. No one would reach that. let alone your idea of 10m. ;|

sure they would be able to reach that, itd be hard and take a long time, but the bonus stats would be worth it. Plus it would benefit for the players who actually take the time to play the game. Its just my oppinion.

and mine

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:57:04 PM

Quote from: Forbiden on October 05, 2011, 04:25:01 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
YOU DECIDED TO USE BS TO RUIN GAME SO NOW TATS WAU U GET

2m and 5k stats isnt  going to ruin the game, besides santa may find a way to disable BS in PvP and BvB, so stand by patienly.

go away op***

Stop flaming, besides my vote isnt going to change the game, other people voted for that too...

evry1 just look there is a vote up there dont flame people if u dont get what u want the game will or i hope the game will choose the things with the most votes even though it might not be the option i wanted ;)

Quote from: Forbiden on October 06, 2011, 02:14:25 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:57:04 PM

Quote from: Forbiden on October 05, 2011, 04:25:01 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 05, 2011, 04:11:40 PM
YOU DECIDED TO USE BS TO RUIN GAME SO NOW TATS WAU U GET

2m and 5k stats isnt  going to ruin the game, besides santa may find a way to disable BS in PvP and BvB, so stand by patienly.

go away op***

Stop flaming, besides my vote isnt going to change the game, other people voted for that too...

so what? its because of op***s game suk is not like wonderful cb

I agree with the idea of a bot stract shop, trade-able items for botstract.

Nowadays, the event has low drop rates but a week is ok time but people have lives. I don't see much people on.

It is hard to get a mil for most people. New players sector more then pvp. You only get botstract if YOU win. Many rooms have tag on them which means no bs.

Bot stract can make people op

I still remember me vs bubu and another guy I forgot

Gun murdered my base 3====

Read this very carefully and understand it : i still stand behind my point, that says 2 million is the BS limit, and 5k stats. Santa said he will work on a way to disable bot stract in PvP and BvB so you dont have to worry about that because untill he makes that the BS almost has no affect with the latest update, so stop saying OPnoob and stuff like that.

Quote from: Affinity on October 09, 2011, 12:57:17 PM
Read this very carefully and understand it : i still stand behind my point, that says 2 million is the BS limit, and 5k stats. Santa said he will work on a way to disable bot stract in PvP and BvB so you dont have to worry about that because untill he makes that the BS almost has no affect with the latest update, so stop saying OPnoob and stuff like that.

Having hack-damage stats in grinding is still OP...

Why did you guys make this poll when you knew that all the nubs would pick 2k bs 5k stats?

Quote from: asmit10 on October 09, 2011, 01:21:41 PM
Why did you guys make this poll when you knew that all the nubs would pick 2k bs 5k stats?

Because then the people who voted for what I voted for might go "wat da fuk is dis u do only wat u tink is rite never do wat commmunity wasnt" or something >:3

yet as you can see most people want 2 mil 5k stats back so why wouldnt it be patched back to that?

If no one wants the game to be more OP and use the 2m 5k choice, just make it 2m 3k and everyone SHOULD be happy...

Quote from: denilligaal on October 09, 2011, 01:25:15 PM
yet as you can see most people want 2 mil 5k stats back so why wouldnt it be patched back to that?

You haven't read the thread have you?
It's gonna be OP.

i took a noobish choice.
i chose 3m bs 5k stats
its noobish but not as much as 2m and k5 stats

Quote from: droid zylon1 on October 09, 2011, 01:30:12 PM
i took a noobish choice.
i chose 3m bs 5k stats
its noobish but not as much as 2m and k5 stats

Nope, it's perfect.
There won't be a lot of OP people.

Quote from: droid zylon1 on October 09, 2011, 01:30:12 PM
i took a noobish choice.
i chose 3m bs 5k stats
its noobish but not as much as 2m and k5 stats

In what way 3m bs 5k stats isnt more nooby that 2m and 5k ? You said it yourself :

Quote from: droid zylon1 on October 09, 2011, 01:30:12 PM
i chose 3m bs 5k stats

What are stat bonuses? Like TG Rams TA Patch and Ranged Attack for Surge?

Quote from: spiderstar on October 10, 2011, 11:19:01 PM
What are stat bonuses? Like TG Rams TA Patch and Ranged Attack for Surge?

Yeah, it boosts those kinds of stats. As it stands, you get an extra +1 stat for every 600 bot-stract you collect/buy.

Personally, I think 1,000 should be the max addition to the stats even then that's still making things very imbalanced.  But still no where near as bad as 5,000.

Quote from: Shadow on October 11, 2011, 05:08:39 AM
Personally, I think 1,000 should be the max addition to the stats even then that's still making things very imbalanced.  But still no where near as bad as 5,000.

It really doesn't look like it's going even the way of 3,000 unfortunately ._.

I think this is one of those times when you need to disregard what the community wants; do whats good for the community.

I'm pretty sure this will be sector only, so it won't be seen as too big a deal by most people if the top option is chosen.

If they can find a way (or have already found a way) to make it sector only then i think it'll be ok. But if they cant then:

Quote from: asmit10 on October 11, 2011, 05:12:30 AM
I think this is one of those times when you need to disregard what the community wants; do whats good for the community.

Quote from: asmit10 on October 11, 2011, 05:23:56 AM
If they can find a way (or have already found a way) to make it sector only then i think it'll be ok. But if they cant then:

Quote from: asmit10 on October 11, 2011, 05:12:30 AM
I think this is one of those times when you need to disregard what the community wants; do whats good for the community.

Where's the like button?

i didn't read any posts.
but i say 3mill= 5k stats.
because then we got some to get.
and we get stats back for it. :P

Quote from: Robocop7ant on October 11, 2011, 03:07:19 PM
i didn't read any posts.
but i say 3mill= 5k stats.
because then we got some to get.
and we get stats back for it. :P

I agree, but lets not make it very OP, 4k stats are enough (in my opinion). However i do agree with this.

Quote from: Affinity on October 11, 2011, 03:44:39 PM

Quote from: Robocop7ant on October 11, 2011, 03:07:19 PM
i didn't read any posts.
but i say 3mill= 5k stats.
because then we got some to get.
and we get stats back for it. :P

I agree, but lets not make it very OP, 4k stats are enough (in my opinion). However i do agree with this.

it isn't op when players can't get 3mill very fast..
it is going long time to get 1.5mill and that is 2.5k stats.
so not that op at all.

i say 10mil bs make up 1350 stats

Quote from: Iridion on October 13, 2011, 11:44:11 AM
i say 10mil bs make up 1350 stats

My response is, "RIDICULOUS!"

is there going to be a point of this or was it just a random vote?
because i want to know if its going to change or this was just a to my point of view pointless topic to hear opinions without doing anything with it?

Quote from: denilligaal on October 13, 2011, 03:47:40 PM
is there going to be a point of this or was it just a random vote?
because i want to know if its going to change or this was just a to my point of view pointless topic to hear opinions without doing anything with it?

The top choice will be what's implemented. The poll stays open until the admins decide to work on BS.

how about 3 mil bs 3000 stats on high and 1.3 mil bs on low with 3000 stats. (bs is harder to get on low server so take that under concideration.)

i like the system now.. i Do think that Bs should be MORE effective than it is now. but thats my opinion:p

I chose the 2mil and 5000

I agree with anyone who stated that bot stract should just be taken out of base and pvp because of the fact bonuses can really help in sector but the whole point of pvp is to find out who is more skillful therefore the people should be equal in stats when it comes to bonuses.

Quote from: Zack66775 on October 13, 2011, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 13, 2011, 11:44:11 AM
i say 10mil bs make up 1350 stats

My response is, "RIDICULOUS!"

my response is, "OP***!"

Quote from: Iridion on October 19, 2011, 03:10:39 PM

Quote from: Zack66775 on October 13, 2011, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 13, 2011, 11:44:11 AM
i say 10mil bs make up 1350 stats

My response is, "RIDICULOUS!"

my response is, "OP***!"

I'm sorry buy who can get 10mil? And for less stats than what we even have now!? Still ridiculous.

Heh, the BS system as a whole is ridiculous.

Quote from: Yz on October 20, 2011, 01:10:37 AM
Heh, the BS system as a whole is ridiculous.

CHECK CHECK AND MORE CHECKS MY GOOD COMMUNITY MANAGER XD!!!!

Quote from: Zack66775 on October 20, 2011, 01:08:03 AM

Quote from: Iridion on October 19, 2011, 03:10:39 PM

Quote from: Zack66775 on October 13, 2011, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 13, 2011, 11:44:11 AM
i say 10mil bs make up 1350 stats

My response is, "RIDICULOUS!"

my response is, "OP***!"

I'm sorry buy who can get 10mil? And for less stats than what we even have now!? Still ridiculous.

everything worked fine withouth bs overpowering players, so theorically you dont need bs to be good
;3

Quote from: Iridion on October 24, 2011, 10:36:09 AM

Quote from: Zack66775 on October 20, 2011, 01:08:03 AM

Quote from: Iridion on October 19, 2011, 03:10:39 PM

Quote from: Zack66775 on October 13, 2011, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 13, 2011, 11:44:11 AM
i say 10mil bs make up 1350 stats

My response is, "RIDICULOUS!"

my response is, "OP***!"

I'm sorry buy who can get 10mil? And for less stats than what we even have now!? Still ridiculous.

everything worked fine withouth bs overpowering players, so theorically you dont need bs to be good
;3

True..

Quote from: hawk5005 on October 24, 2011, 10:39:02 AM

Quote from: Iridion on October 24, 2011, 10:36:09 AM

Quote from: Zack66775 on October 20, 2011, 01:08:03 AM

Quote from: Iridion on October 19, 2011, 03:10:39 PM

Quote from: Zack66775 on October 13, 2011, 03:21:49 PM

Quote from: Iridion on October 13, 2011, 11:44:11 AM
i say 10mil bs make up 1350 stats

My response is, "RIDICULOUS!"

my response is, "OP***!"

I'm sorry buy who can get 10mil? And for less stats than what we even have now!? Still ridiculous.

everything worked fine withouth bs overpowering players, so theorically you dont need bs to be good
;3

True..

pratically*, because closed beta players are better than actual. :3

Well, since like 80-85% of the people voted for 2m max and 5k stats, why not go with that ? Most people want that option..

Quote from: Affinity on October 25, 2011, 06:07:36 PM
Well, since like 80-85% of the people voted for 2m max and 5k stats, why not go with that ? Most people want that option..

Polls are NEVER true. People can log into a alt and go vote too. It's not IP based.

decision has been made I suppose. Will be implemented when the devs have free time :)