I like how you rephrased what you said earlier, made it a lot easier to understand, however I still disagree personally. In my opinion, guilds would be healthy if the game didn't die off from the Dannii issue because there would be way more people still playing. There really isn't another way guilds can become competitive again with the current GP board.

It would also be hard to rework GP without wiping the board, imo.

Quote from: Encorith on November 06, 2015, 01:53:40 AM
Heh, some of you guys just never learn.

A guild wipe would only solve the one problem that is guild stagnation, but only temporarily. The fact that you guys are even considering a second guild wipe proves this in that it means that the first one was ultimately ineffective. Repeating history isn't going to solve anything.

You will need to completely revamp the guild system if you want to prevent guild stagnation. Heck, if you're looking to increase your playerbase, you'll need to revamp the entire game. Where the hell are the updates?

I would give you tips but I feel that they are beyond your capabilities and that they will fall on deaf ears, as they have in the past. I'm also too lazy to do so at this point.

Have fun debating amongst yourselves. But we all know that they're just going to do what they want to anyway...

Maybe.. just maybe..

the last guild wipe worked, but the game died out from other unforeseen events? Does the name Dannii ring a bell?

You guys like to condescend with some of your all knowing posts, but there's really logical reason for everything that's gone down. We don't just want to quick fix every 3 years and leave it at that..'

.. regardless, there's tonnes of other things we haven't done which would have been very beneficial for the game because the playerbase voted against it. Why would we just do what we want, if we could lose all sources of income from losing ten players...?

By the way, we know the votes were rigged by someone on multiple accounts. "For guild wipe" has been voted for by a landslide.

We're not just trying to have an easy revitalization, we're trying to give the game a kickstart so we can start making real changes with a playerbase to actually work with.

As a player and not an admin, no point when everyone is 300mil GP behind.

I'm only going to reply to this with a little debate because you said some things as if they are facts, but they aren't, they're opinions - all of which I respect, and I appreciate your input Ice.

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
as you know the first Gil wiped wipeout did not even work properly

What do you define as "a guild wipe working properly"? For the first 6 months after the guild wipe, there were so many active guilds..

Here's a list of guilds that were actively playing the game within the first 6 months of our guild wipe in 2012, which will honestly make todays competition look sad.

-Game Kings
-Silence
-Redemption
-Sunshine
-Sympathy
-Utopia
-Sanctuary
-Anarchy
-ZeaL
-rKr
-Genesis
-Legend.
-Schism
-Disdain
-~StarZ~
-Even LiL Optis
And to a degree, SevenSeeds, PnPnP, and SynsationalWolfs. Also, I know I'm missing some.

Where did all this competition go? The statistics are there. BoutCheetah's most active and competitive point in time was after the last guild wipe, besides beta. As far as I know, the last guild wipe worked as intended.

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
instead of gills having 30 to 40 members it dropped to 20 didn't none of us like that now you want to drop it to 10 people in a Guild.

We have less than 30 players on at a time, the reason I was able to list so many guilds up there ^ was because enough players were split up into their own guilds. More guilds, more alliances, more events, more competition. Win-win.

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
too many people have been working very hard, with there own events, and there hard earned money

Understood, it's a shame. But really, how many people are working hard with their events right now? Next to none. The game has truly stagnated.

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
It's unfair to do a Guild wipe at this time, just as it was unfair last time. It's un professional it this takes place

Agreed. There's very little fairness to it, which is why we're seeking the approval of the playerbase before we make such a move. However, ultimately, fair or not and as stated earlier, it's the easiest quick fix to breathe life into the game again. The active playerbase that cares about guilds is so laughably low at the moment.

Still, this is only a concept and if it were to happen it wouldn't be for a long time - currently it's extremely unlikely.

But I can't stress enough - please look at the list above. That list is not an exaggeration, and those were all English guilds apart from sunshine - think of all the foreign ingame only guilds that never posted on the forums...

and today... we're left with Silence and a bit of SoSa. Can't really get worse than this.

One more reason to do another wipe is to properly rework and balance GP gains - doing it now at this point is impossible.

When it comes down to it, you care about the time and effort put into your guilds, but when you consider the health, balance and liveliness of the game, the guild wipe has way more ups than downs.

So far pretty much everyone's posted yes except two people, who only said no because they like their GP. You guys will be reimbursed for your GP!

Too bad more people who voted "no" didn't post too.

Yo everyone, some of us have been thinking of ways to revitalize BC, one of the ideas that popped up was a second guild wipe to kickstart the playerbase with some competition.

A guild wipe entails;
-All guilds deleted
-Rewards for the top guilds pre-guild wipe
-A fresh start for everyone to make your new guilds and try for the top ranks
-Likely a slight rework on how guilds work (10 members max, maybe more)

This will bring players back and give new players the motivation to start their guilds, as they'd actually have a chance to compete. With the kickstart in competition & to the playerbase, the game will be in a healthier spot than it is now.

Personally, I'm all for it. What do you guys think? We'd love to hear your opinions so please post them below.

hbd

yeah forgot that existed tbh

ya the dude who made red irrelevant shud get the guild harhar

i was gonna kill whole thing not quit it lol but **** it ill just leave it how it is, i didn't mean literally leave guild

wait there's people actually online watfak maybe i leave u guys to it if people actually enjoying themselves

@lamp i not disband utopia at any point

im disbanding red tomorrow, didn't feel right doing it without telling people first

wtf do that to me

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Quote from: Madprox on September 29, 2015, 03:53:01 PM
Well... there's not gonna be spawned coins/gigas for an event any time soon.
Think of something else.

this thread is from 2012 man

Would've helped if you hadn't bumped it for no reason.
Unless this is a valid reason.

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Locking this.

ye someone else posted before him

Quote from: Corr on September 27, 2015, 01:41:27 AM
FYI The good ol' day's were in 2007-2008 so yea gtfo.

2008 gd idk