religion thread!
-what do you think about religion?
-is there one specific religion you have something to say about?
-is religion good for the man or bad?
personally, i think religions are more or less a negative thing, being very materialistic. in particular, christianity and islam are two of the worst shit ever happened to the human race, expect for a few details.
also if anyone wants, relate homosexuality to religion. its commonly known that religion is openly against homosexuality, but why? if one is atheist for example, why should his life be influenced by some sort of cult he doesnt believe in?
-what do you think about religion?
great thing to have. people are just ****ing stupid about it and pick what they like and ignore what they don't. It's not religion that's a problem, it's how people interpret it.
-is there one specific religion you have something to say about?
Nope. All religions are cool to me. It's the people that claim to be x or y and do things because "their scriptures say so" is retarded
-is religion good for the man or bad?
Overall? Good. But it's becoming problematic to say the least
Quote from: Iridion on March 31, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
personally, i think religions are more or less a negative thing, being very materialistic.
Not all the religions are materialistic.
For example: jewish ppl are not allowed to belive in statues and stuff, it is spiritual.
Generally speaking, religion is here to answer the questions science cant coz after all, it is weather u belive in a huge explosion that created u or somthing else which at least imo more legit
religion is useless
Quote from: matan124 on March 31, 2014, 05:41:22 PMit is weather u belive in a huge explosion that created u or somthing else which at least imo more legit
what the ****? science explains the explosion and it makes perfect sense.. i'll reword it for you
Quote from: matan124 on March 31, 2014, 05:41:22 PMit is weather u belive in a theory with tonnes of proof behind it that created u or somthing invisible that was likely created by man which at least imo more legit
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don't get me wrong, i'm all for open mindedness and everyone having their own view on things - aswell as believing things specifically through faith. but when someone discredits something scientific that's factual and backs up their own stuff that has nothing behind it whatsoever then it's just like to me.. why do u breathe
I'm agnostic which fits perfectly for me. I respect how various religions go about certain circumstances, but I don't believe in any kind of definite god. I also think science makes way more sense compared to some of the outrageous things the bible, scriptures, torah, etc say, but I know that science also has many undiscovered plains.
Can't define religion by certain followers, but religious wars are down right stupid.
Quote from: JustRK on March 31, 2014, 06:59:56 PM
I'm agnostic which fits perfectly for me. I respect how various religions go about certain circumstances, but I don't believe in any kind of definite god. I also think science makes way more sense compared to some of the outrageous things the bible, scriptures, torah, etc say, but I know that science also has many undiscovered plains.
Can't define religion by certain followers, but religious wars are down right stupid.
shoulda seen xrow and optis old fights lol
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=9104.msg79502#msg79502 (http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=9104.msg79502#msg79502)
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=9006.0 (http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=9006.0)
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=9009.0 (http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=9009.0)
went on too long
Muslim :)
Proud Catholic.
In my catholic church we aren't materialistic.
The church is kinda small probably the size of a gymnasium.
I think religion is great for a person.
Helps you see more and be grateful.
Just my 2 Cents doe.
religion is toxic and bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hTnmZkHnTE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hTnmZkHnTE)
watch this and laff at how stupid he is
"if you dont have a religion what do u base ur moral barometer on"
theres no need for a moral barometer if u just act like a decent human being all the time???
why are you creating threads with the seeming intention of controversial topics.
Quote from: Allie on March 31, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
why are you creating threads with the seeming intention of controversial topics.
to piss off gay atheists like you xD
Quote from: Pokeh on March 31, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
Quote from: Allie on March 31, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
why are you creating threads with the seeming intention of controversial topics.
to piss off gay atheists like you xD
I too wish I could put faith in something that repeatedly tells you to go **** yourself.
Quote from: Allie on March 31, 2014, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: Pokeh on March 31, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
Quote from: Allie on March 31, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
why are you creating threads with the seeming intention of controversial topics.
to piss off gay atheists like you xD
I too wish I could put faith in something that repeatedly tells you to go **** yourself.
Bleh, could you be more specific?
I recall we disagreed on something else a while ago on the topic of fitness, and your opinion (if memory serves correct) was that fitness is a "waste of time" and though it generally extends your life-span, it also consumes generally the same amount of time/commitment + sacrifice.
How is that related to religion? Well I'm assuming you're following a generally same logic of "its a waste of time, no proof, science bitch!, etc." But if you give examples maybe we can have a conversation going.
I didn't have that conversation with you, must be thinking of someone else. I believe fitness is important, in moderation.
I don't hold conversations over religion. I am partially agnostic, partially atheist, in that I believe if there's something responsible for us being here, they gave up on us long ago, or straight up refuse to aid or interfere. The proof is around you, I don't and you shouldn't buy any "gods will" bullshit. I don't debate it because I simply believe those who have faith are only lying to themselves, and if those who live by it are idiots.
I don't argue with people on a topic I think you're an idiot on. Not that there's anything wrong with anyone religious outside of that subject, most of the time.
Religion is something that I try to distance my self from and will most likely distance any children I may have. There is proof that the Big bang happened to an extent but for god I cannot come to terms with any. I believe that you should live life the way in which you would like not in some pre-made template from long ago.
I have no problem with others having religions as that would go against what I said before about living life the way you want, if that's by a template then be my guest.
Although if someone tries to push religion on me that's when I start to dislike religion as they are trying to change the way I live and how I think.
Do what makes you happy.
Quote from: Allie on March 31, 2014, 09:09:46 PM
I don't argue with people on a topic I think you're an idiot on. Not that there's anything wrong with anyone religious outside of that subject, most of the time.
Don't you think generalizing every religious person seems a bit like what religious people do to everyone else?
fair enough i guess
edit: people hold to theories a whole lot too. it doesn't seem scientific (ironically) to put so much faith in to theories like evolution and the big bang theory. 99% of the scientific community follow the same morals for a reason, expect their outcomes to be biased. (Not saying they can't be true, or that they sound more logical than "god did it", just think logically about)
I'm Christian.
I believe in God, and Jesus.
I don't believe in Churches, nor Priests or most of what the Bible says.
Priests are disgusting pieces of trash that most if not ALL of them have some sort of "fetish" towards little boys.
Churches are money hungry whore-houses.
The bible isn't 100% original, it's like a broken telephone and is ALWAYS changing.
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PM
Priests are disgusting pieces of trash that most if not ALL of them have some sort of "fetish" towards little boys.
What? That isn't inherently true in any way, shape, or form. There are
some priests that are pedophiles, but a vast majority of them are not bad people.
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PM
Churches are money hungry whore-houses.
Most churches are actually not very greedy. Sure, maybe the mega churches that require you to pay a tithe are greedy; however, the reality is that most churches get just enough money to get by. They have to pay rent and other utilities. That stuff doesn't pay for itself.
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PMALWAYS changing.
What? The Bible itself doesn't change. The reason why the Bible might seem like it's changing is because different people have different interpretations. Yes, the fact that people cherry pick from the Bible and try to use these out-of-context examples in politics is a bad thing. However, any book will have a number of different meanings to different people.
Quote from: zomniethe4 on March 31, 2014, 06:23:03 PM
religion is useless
Maybe to you it is. It is to me, too. However, that does not mean that religion is useless to other people. Some people need to believe in something to make their lives worthwhile. Some people need a source that gives them rules to live by. That's just how they are. People are different; it's that simple. Even though these people need a book to live their life in a moral way may seem foolish to you, it does not detract from them being good people.
Quote from: Pokeh on March 31, 2014, 09:22:26 PM
people hold to theories a whole lot too. it doesn't seem scientific (ironically) to put so much faith in to theories like evolution and the big bang theory
The word
theory is used in a different context within the scientific community. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of the natural world that can be represented with a model. These theories are more-or-less fact (at least to our knowledge as of now) since countless experiments are executed in order to test the viability and reliability of the model. If the model is proven inaccurate, the model is modified to explain an additional set of criteria, or the model is scrapped for a new one.
Quote from: Allie on March 31, 2014, 09:09:46 PM
I simply believe those who have faith are only lying to themselves, and if those who live by it are idiots.
Some of the most intelligent people I know live by the Christian doctrine. Let's just say that my friend I have in mind has a 2250 SAT score, has never gotten below an
A, is involved in several programs, and is doing research at a top university. That's really unfair discrimination because you're judging people on something that proves little about their intelligence instead of judging them on their accomplishments.
Keep in mind that I am agnostic.
What i'm wondering is who or what created the particles to make the big bang happen? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Glad LightRequiem still posts :)
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PM
I'm Christian.
I believe in God, and Jesus.
I don't believe in Churches, nor Priests or most of what the Bible says.
Priests are disgusting pieces of trash that most if not ALL of them have some sort of "fetish" towards little boys.
Churches are money hungry whore-houses.
The bible isn't 100% original, it's like a broken telephone and is ALWAYS changing.
Churches are money hungry whore houses?
lol.
If you went to small churches you would see that the people are the church.
Without people, it's not church.
So please stop posting these comments when you've probably never gone to a church in your life.
Quote from: tincan on April 01, 2014, 12:46:33 AM
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PM
I'm Christian.
I believe in God, and Jesus.
I don't believe in Churches, nor Priests or most of what the Bible says.
Priests are disgusting pieces of trash that most if not ALL of them have some sort of "fetish" towards little boys.
Churches are money hungry whore-houses.
The bible isn't 100% original, it's like a broken telephone and is ALWAYS changing.
Churches are money hungry whore houses?
lol.
If you went to small churches you would see that the people are the church.
Without people, it's not church.
So please stop posting these comments when you've probably never gone to a church in your life.
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LOL.
> Went to confirmation
>Did communions
>All SMALL churches.
>went to massive churches
>All handed out pans for "money donations"
I speak from experience, I highly doubt people who speak of churches or priest actually know what goes on behind the scenes.
I need to see it to believe most thing about religion to be able to believe that type of stuff, that's just my personality. I think that there is probably a higher power but not like a true "god", if that makes sense.
Quote from: daluzman123 on April 01, 2014, 01:03:56 AM> Went to confirmation
>Did communions
>All SMALL churches.
>went to massive churches
>All handed out pans for "money donations"
You see that shit on TV you didn't even need to tell us.. and how about replying to LightReq as well rather than Tiny who was siding with Req but said his part a little more dumbed down? Or was that all you were able to reply too?
Quote from: Yz on April 01, 2014, 01:48:29 AM
Quote from: daluzman123 on April 01, 2014, 01:03:56 AM> Went to confirmation
>Did communions
>All SMALL churches.
>went to massive churches
>All handed out pans for "money donations"
You see that **** on TV you didn't even need to tell us.. and how about replying to LightReq as well rather than Tiny who was siding with Req but said his part a little more dumbed down? Or was that all you were able to reply too?
There's just so much to quote, then to erase and stuff, It's a lot of work, I'll quote him and fix it on it;
But; most of what he stated is more opinion then anything, just like what I've stated, so there's really no point in replying to anyone.
Also; You won't see all that exploited Church & Priest shit on T.V, you gotta know someone or be deep within that garbage life. Most people who THINK they know shit about Churches & Priests are most likely on the wrong side of the road.
Nah to clarfiy I only meant that TV shows churches use the handout pan. That's pretty common tbh.
Quote from: Yz on April 01, 2014, 02:05:54 AM
Nah to clarfiy I only meant that TV shows churches use the handout pan. That's pretty common tbh.
It'd be nice if people can elaborate on what they're trying to explain, I'm not a psychic I can't guess LOL.
What else would I have possibly referred too when I said we see it on TV?
Quote from: Yz on April 01, 2014, 01:48:29 AM
Quote from: daluzman123 on April 01, 2014, 01:03:56 AM> Went to confirmation
>Did communions
>All SMALL churches.
>went to massive churches
>All handed out pans for "money donations"
You see that **** on TV you didn't even need to tell us.. and how about replying to LightReq as well rather than Tiny who was siding with Req but said his part a little more dumbed down? Or was that all you were able to reply too?
From that quote, I just don't see what else you could have gotten from my post or how I could have made it simpler. That's actually hilarious that you tried to take a jab at me but made yourself look so retarded without me having to do anything.
"Churches ask for hand out money"
"We know we see it on TV"
you still find a way to misunderstand. 8TH WONDER OF THE WORLD EL O EL
Daluzmad is like one of those angry atheist twitter users.
either bashing religion or posting metal quotes
Quote from: LightRequiem on March 31, 2014, 09:57:56 PM
Quote from: Pokeh on March 31, 2014, 09:22:26 PM
people hold to theories a whole lot too. it doesn't seem scientific (ironically) to put so much faith in to theories like evolution and the big bang theory
The word theory is used in a different context within the scientific community. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of the natural world that can be represented with a model. These theories are more-or-less fact (at least to our knowledge as of now) since countless experiments are executed in order to test the viability and reliability of the model. If the model is proven inaccurate, the model is modified to explain an additional set of criteria, or the model is scrapped for a new one.
Yes I know what theory is in the scientific community. Something like Place/Sound Theory (used to describe how we hear and intake sound through our ears) is an example of what you're saying. There's substantial evidence for the theory, but we aren't at the point where we can actually measure how sound travels through our ears and is processed by our brains.
There's no way in hell that can relate to something like the theory of Evolution. The amount of "substantial evidence" that backs it up is filtered by the scientific community to suit their needs/theories. Other stuff that goes against their theories is discarded. A famous case of this was the Piltdown Man (you can google this if you really wanna know what I'm talking about)
This evidence can be interpreted many different ways as well, and the dating methods used to come up with the age of the earth, or other evolutionary answers can obviously also be questioned.
I'm not saying Evolution is totally b.s, but there's seriously a lot to it than you (or the general atheist/scientific community) totally miss out on.
There is more evidence supporting evolution than creationism. Whether it is how things came about or not, it is more scientifically accurate.
I don't understand how piltdown man hoax has anything to do with disregarding "substantial evidence". Science is the search for the truth, understanding how the world works. Religion is branding the answer as an all-powerful being somewhere out there. Science does not filter evidence. Anything that can disprove evolutionism is welcome in the science community - go send a letter.
LOL at opti, allie and every other atheist
A little knowledge of science can make a man an atheist, but in-depth study of science can make you believe in God.
I don't believe in any religions. I don't know if there is a god or no.. and I don't know how all life came to be.. but I don't really care that much anyways
I just hate how religion people fight with other religious people, etc just let people believe what they want to believe
are we really having this again
Quote from: tincan on April 01, 2014, 12:46:33 AM
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PM
I'm Christian.
I believe in God, and Jesus.
I don't believe in Churches, nor Priests or most of what the Bible says.
Priests are disgusting pieces of trash that most if not ALL of them have some sort of "fetish" towards little boys.
Churches are money hungry whore-houses.
The bible isn't 100% original, it's like a broken telephone and is ALWAYS changing.
Churches are money hungry whore houses?
lol.
If you went to small churches you would see that the people are the church.
Without people, it's not church.
So please stop posting these comments when you've probably never gone to a church in your life.
the bad side you and davey forgot to mention, is that all the small churches are related to one big Church which is THE Christian Church. and it absolutely corresponds to the "money and power hungry" thingy. just take a looks at the past history.
why are you making a new topic to reply to a thread, stop doing that
im not even going to bother discussing what you just said
Merged noblem's topic with this one.
Quote from: Meteor on April 01, 2014, 02:14:05 PM
Merged noblem's topic with this one.
but somehow his post is missing and the only thing there from his thread is my reply
Quote from: Cooky on April 01, 2014, 02:15:23 PM
Quote from: Meteor on April 01, 2014, 02:14:05 PM
Merged noblem's topic with this one.
but somehow his post is missing and the only thing there from his thread is my reply
Posts get sorted by date, scroll up a bit and you will see it.
Quote from: noblem6 on April 01, 2014, 07:11:54 AM
LOL at opti, allie and every other atheist
A little knowledge of science can make a man an atheist, but in-depth study of science can make you believe in God.
>implying he ever had an in-depth study of science
dont turn this thread into one of your pathethic attention seeking threads
Quote from: Allie on April 01, 2014, 06:22:23 AM
There is more evidence supporting evolution than creationism. Whether it is how things came about or not, it is more scientifically accurate.
I don't understand how piltdown man hoax has anything to do with disregarding "substantial evidence". Science is the search for the truth, understanding how the world works. Religion is branding the answer as an all-powerful being somewhere out there. Science does not filter evidence. Anything that can disprove evolutionism is welcome in the science community - go send a letter.
The data that we have now can be interpreted to mean anything, Allie. It's not like we have video footage of how life was 4.7 Billion years ago, let alone even know for a fact that there was a planet by the name of Earth around back then.
The Piltdown man was an example of how evidence can easily be lab-generated to look like something that is millions of years old, and for
years the scientific community believed it without doing a single test because it fit their theory so well they thought "why the hell would we test it?"
I'm trying to show you the bias in the Scientific Community. True science is segregated from one particular myth/theory, and is pure fact. We probably have a more "scientific approach" coming from Creationist Scientists. Why?
Their answer to everything is God. And until they haven't figured out the answer to a specific object, it will remain God.
Scientific Community? Find an answer to everything. A theory behind why things are the way they are. Try to fit everything into a nice, organized puzzle while discarding everything that doesn't fit their theory. (Creationists do this too, but since the Evolutionist Scientists are the majority, it obviously happens a lot more from them)
I get that many religious people don't think for themselves, were probably raised into a particular religion and thus stuck with it all their lives, or whatever. But that doesn't mean every religious person is a narrow-minded idiot that believes every word in a Holy Book. Some realize how skewed "science" is, and someone like me who isn't entirely religious has just made up his mind into thinking that we just don't know at this point, and probably won't ever know what happened thousands, or even billions of years ago.
I love iri for making topics like this. :D
Quote from: Iridion on March 31, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
-what do you think about religion?
Good.
Quote from: Iridion on March 31, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
-is there one specific religion you have something to say about?
No.
Quote from: Iridion on March 31, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
-is religion good for the man or bad?
Good. I met some great people through life groups.
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PM
I'm Christian.
I believe in God, and Jesus.
I don't believe in Churches, nor Priests or most of what the Bible says.
Churches are money hungry whore-houses.
Lol. ****ing lol.
If you believe in God & Jesus then why do you bash so much on what was made to worship and follow the Word of God?
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PM
Priests are disgusting pieces of trash that most if not ALL of them have some sort of "fetish" towards little boys.
Generalizing a group for a minority of those who did sinful deeds. Nice job stereotypes, nice.
Quote from: daluzman123 on March 31, 2014, 09:24:50 PMThe bible isn't 100% original, it's like a broken telephone and is ALWAYS changing.
The words change. The message stays the same.
i love threads johnny posts in xD just gets **** on by everyone then never returns
Ya voy a parar can estas chingaderas...
Dios es de verdad y nadien queda cambiar eso.
En el nombre, del padre, el hijo, y el espiruto santo. Amen.
Great Debate guys.
Believe in what you want. Surprised this thread hasn't ended.
Quote from: MedicaL on April 02, 2014, 12:48:51 AM
If you believe in God & Jesus then why do you bash so much on what was made to worship and follow the Word of God?
Because what was made to worship and follow the word of god is not your daily church.
A cult is more realistic in "made to worship and follow". Churches are profitable organizations.
Quote from: Yz on April 02, 2014, 12:55:57 AM
i love threads johnny posts in xD just gets **** on by everyone then never returns
lelel
Quote from: kulvinder on April 02, 2014, 03:03:34 PM
But we will come down to these questions, who killed Kenny? Should I be born? How did I came to life? Is hitler alive? Will the owners of subway surfers make the game a little fun to play? Why is that e=mc2?
On a serious note :God is one people.
people is plural tho
Quote from: kulvinder on April 02, 2014, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: Iridion on April 02, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: kulvinder on April 02, 2014, 03:03:34 PM
But we will come down to these questions, who killed Kenny? Should I be born? How did I came to life? Is hitler alive? Will the owners of subway surfers make the game a little fun to play? Why is that e=mc2?
On a serious note :God is one people.
people is plural tho
haha
I was referring to people.
What I mean:God is one, people.
oh i see your point now