Discuss.
@ Allie
Quote from: Allie on September 19, 2010, 07:53:59 PM
Why don't we have wings?
Can you tell me why humans need wings to survive?
Planes are a luxury, not a need.
So,
Evolution is the ability to alter yourself in such a way so as to gain what you
need to survive.
Quote from: Allie on September 19, 2010, 08:13:06 PM
People were able to fish before fishing poles.
A pole is a luxury, not a need.
Why do we have them then?
They are not a
need, therefore they should not exist.
@ Opti:
Describe "evolution" in your own words please.
Humans like luxuries.
The border between luxury and necessity is apparently fuzzy.
Quote from: Allie on September 19, 2010, 08:24:14 PM
Humans like luxuries.
The border between luxury and necessity is apparently fuzzy.
Although they do like them and the line is fuzzy, they are not necessary to survive.
So, why did we "evolve" them, or the ability and knowledge to make them?
Evolution is not real. It's a myth.
Evolution is real. Various animals evolved in order to better adapt to their habitats. What would you call the changes that took places to them then?
Quote from: Jonathan on September 19, 2010, 08:37:49 PM
Evolution is real. Various animals evolved in order to better adapt to their habitats. What would you call the changes that took places to them then?
No changes took place.
Quote from: Jonathan on September 19, 2010, 08:37:49 PM
Evolution is real. Various animals evolved in order to better adapt to their habitats. What would you call the changes that took places to them then?
Meh, I would go on, but can't be bothered D;. Gotta study.
Can't tell if you're kidding or not.
And I'd ask you to prove that changes did actually take place... But I already know you can't. Lol.
If you ask me to prove they didn't, my answer:
I can't.
The only evidence that they didn't is that there are no half-"evolved" species, and there are 0 beneficial mutations. If there were beneficial mutations, there is virtually no chance that that mutation would get passed on to the mutated being's offspring, resulting in the loss of that single beneficial mutation.
:|..
Xrow,
/brofist.
Quote from: Xrow on September 19, 2010, 08:22:21 PM
Why do we have them then?
They are not a need, therefore they should not exist.
Human's have learned to make tools that make their lives easier. That's why we have them.
Quote from: Xrow on September 19, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
Can't tell if you're kidding or not.
And I'd ask you to prove that changes did actually take place... But I already know you can't. Lol.
If you ask me to prove they didn't, my answer:
I can't.
The only evidence that they didn't is that there are no half-"evolved" species, and there are 0 beneficial mutations. If there were beneficial mutations, there is virtually no chance that that mutation would get passed on to the mutated being's offspring, resulting in the loss of that single beneficial mutation.
:|..
Heh, already shared my opinion about this subject.
"People will believe in whatever they consider right to believe. No matter how hard you guys try to prove your point, it won't help and surely won't change the other persons' opinion." Which is why I won't bother debating this. Will go endless, until someone gets bored of talking nonsense.
I pretty much agree that it can barely be proven, one way or another. The question is, why are you bothering with this if you can't prove it? What would be the point? Convincing others while you can't prove it yourself? lolol.
Edit: Gavin wins.
Explain Darwin's visit to the Galapagos Islands' then.
Quote from: Mihax on September 19, 2010, 08:53:15 PM
Heh, already shared my opinion about this subject.
"People will believe in whatever they consider right to believe. No matter how hard you guys try to prove your point, it won't help and surely won't change the other persons' opinion." Which is why I won't bother debating this. Will go endless, until someone gets bored of talking nonsense.
I pretty much agree that it can barely be proven, one way or another. The question is, why are you bothering with this if you can't prove it? What would be the point? Convincing others while you can't prove it yourself? Odd. o.O
I like Opti and Allie. And I believe that if they continue to believe what they are believing, I won't get to shake their hands in heaven... That's why I'm doing it :-\
Quote from: GavinGill on September 19, 2010, 08:52:01 PM
Human's have learned to make tools that make their lives easier. That's why we have them.
Well of course that's why, but "evolution" is the ability to adapt by making
what is necessary to survive.Therefore, based on "evolution," we wouldn't have made them.....
Quote from: Xrow on September 19, 2010, 08:57:17 PM
I like Opti and Allie. And I believe that if they continue to believe what they are believing, I won't get to shake their hands in heaven... That's why I'm doing it :-\
Well of course that's why, but "evolution" is the ability to adapt by making what is necessary to survive.
Therefore, based on "evolution," we wouldn't have made them..... Ugh don't get me started on this..=/
You can't force others to believe what you're believing, just because YOU consider it to be right. And heck, just because they have a different opinion means you won't be able to "shake their hands in heaven"? Don't be silly, it's a difference in opinions, nothing else.
Quote from: Xrow on September 19, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
Can't tell if you're kidding or not.
And I'd ask you to prove that changes did actually take place... But I already know you can't. Lol.
If you ask me to prove they didn't, my answer:
I can't.
The only evidence that they didn't is that there are no half-"evolved" species, and there are 0 beneficial mutations. If there were beneficial mutations, there is virtually no chance that that mutation would get passed on to the mutated being's offspring, resulting in the loss of that single beneficial mutation.
:|..
There are 1000 animals living on Gavin's Island. They're all the same species. 500 of those animals have offspring with thick fur coats (trait X), 500 of those animals have offspring with fine fur (trait Y). Because of the warm climate, many of the X's die from heat exhaustion and the remaining 250 go on to bear offspring. The Y's not only survive, but thrive in this climate - they all breed come mating season. Fast forward through a couple generations and most, if not all, the X's have died out. All that's left are the Y's and fair number of XY's (they interbred).
Amg look at that, now you have a better understanding of how evolution works. That's a simplified take on one of the aspects of the evolutionary theory but it should suffice. If you want another example, take a gander at redheads. They're dying out because that red hair trait isn't necessarily desirable/dominant. Evolution is more of a filtering process than a magical one.
@ Xrow: Do you really think God (assuming God exists [I beleive in a higher power as well incase you were wondering]) would be so
vindictive as to bar people from Heaven
simply because they they believed in X more than Y? I highly doubt a higher power that's presumed to have created
the entire universe and everything/everyone in it would care about something so trivial. What if Tom was raised in a society where the theory of creationism is unheard of, would God turn him away too?
Zom will swim
Quote from: GavinGill on September 19, 2010, 09:20:51 PM
There are 1000 animals living on Gavin's Island. They're all the same species. 500 of those animals have offspring with thick fur coats (trait X), 500 of those animals have offspring with fine fur (trait Y). Because of the warm climate, many of the X's die from heat exhaustion and the remaining 250 go on to bear offspring. The Y's not only survive, but thrive in this climate - they all breed come mating season. Fast forward through a couple generations and most, if not all, the X's have died out. All that's left are the Y's and fair number of XY's (they interbred).
Amg look at that, now you have a better understanding of how evolution works. That's a simplified take on one of the aspects of the evolutionary theory but it should suffice. If you want another example, take a gander at redheads. They're dying out because that red hair trait isn't necessarily desirable/dominant. Evolution is more of a filtering process than a magical one.
@ Xrow: Do you really think God (assuming God exists [I beleive in a higher power as well incase you were wondering]) would be so vindictive as to bar people from Heaven simply because they they believed in X more than Y? I highly doubt a higher power that's presumed to have created the entire universe and everything/everyone in it would care about something so trivial. What if Tom was raised in a society where the theory of creationism is unheard of, would God turn them away too?
OMFG INTELLIGENCE!
King, what if I told you that I modified the genome of a select organism that facilitated the generation of a three-valve heart (the previous generation had a two valve heart). This process has the potential to take place over millions of years, given that the coding sequence must mutate for the production of a multicomplex protein//signaling pathway to promote such an event. However, within the laboratory, this can be forced within a single generation given that the coding sequence is known and can be readily duplicated to force such an occurrence. If nature selected for this variant upon its fruition, then this would be beneficial and maintain itself within the species' populous.
MUMBO JUMBO RIGHT?
WRONG -- I've done it.
Quote from: GavinGill on September 19, 2010, 09:20:51 PM
There are 1000 animals living on Gavin's Island. They're all the same species. 500 of those animals have offspring with thick fur coats (trait X), 500 of those animals have offspring with fine fur (trait Y). Because of the warm climate, many of the X's die from heat exhaustion and the remaining 250 go on to bear offspring. The Y's not only survive, but thrive in this climate - they all breed come mating season. Fast forward through a couple generations and most, if not all, the X's have died out. All that's left are the Y's and fair number of XY's (they interbred).
Amg look at that, now you have a better understanding of how evolution works. That's a simplified take on one of the aspects of the evolutionary theory but it should suffice. If you want another example, take a gander at redheads. They're dying out because that red hair trait isn't necessarily desirable/dominant. Evolution is more of a filtering process than a magical one.
@ Xrow: Do you really think God (assuming God exists [I beleive in a higher power as well incase you were wondering]) would be so vindictive as to bar people from Heaven simply because they they believed in X more than Y? I highly doubt a higher power that's presumed to have created the entire universe and everything/everyone in it would care about something so trivial. What if Tom was raised in a society where the theory of creationism is unheard of, would God turn him away too?
This was exactly the thing in my mind, natural selection is what causes evolution, the animals best suited to their environment go on to reproduce and pass down their traits, and the ones that aren't die out and their traits are removed form the gene pool.
This causes evolution.
Quote from: Optimism on September 19, 2010, 09:36:37 PM
OMFG INTELLIGENCE!
King, what if I told you that I modified the genome of a select organism that facilitated the generation of a three-valve heart (the previous generation had a two valve heart). This process has the potential to take place over millions of years, given that the coding sequence must mutate for the production of a multicomplex protein//signaling pathway to promote such an event. However, within the laboratory, this can be forced within a single generation given that the coding sequence is known and can be readily duplicated to force such an occurrence. If nature selected for this variant upon its fruition, then this would be beneficial and maintain itself within the species' populous.
MUMBO JUMBO RIGHT?
WRONG -- I've done it.
Well damn o.O You're stubborn, persistent AND stupid..
No sh!t you can alter how you look to a very small degree. And no sh!t the more desirable/stronger species prevails.
But none of the short story you just wrote tells me HOW A NEW SPECIES IS MADE.
Basically you just told me one type of whale prevails over another type of whale. Whoop-de-doo. Give me an example of a whale that sh!ts out a baby with wings that flies south for the winter. /LOL.
I'm sorry, but you'd have to be retarded to believe this bull...
Buut during dinosaur times, there were LESS species that there are now, and DIFFERENT species than there are now.
Unless that one-in-a-few-thousand-billion chance of a beneficial mutation occured MULTIPLE times, AND SOMEHOW STUCK TO A SPECIE'S GENOME, none of what now exists could be in existence. /Evolutionisafool'stale.
I'm starting to seriously question your intelligence, Opti. I've always thought you were fairly smart... But DAMN...
I win.
Humans are by far the dominant species on the modern planet.
And we are rapidly depopulating the earth of the rest of it's species.
A species becomes extinct every 20 minutes.
In 300 years, half of all species will be extinct.
So, in about 475 years, all species, besides humans, will be extinct.
And apparently nothing happens to them when they die, huh?
What happens when humans kill each other and no life is left except a couple of bushes?
Then what? -.-
Then another big bang occurs and bacteria magically comes to existence and uses something it doesn't have to make more and more complicated bacteria that can't possibly be made with the nothingness it has at hand?
Then they turn into...?
A fish?
Then a monkey?
Then a person?
Then they die and become a tree?
Then the tree gets cut down and is printed as a Bible?
Then people are brought to Christ as a result.
Thanks for helping the cause Opti
:]
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 12:31:29 AM
I win.
Humans are by far the dominant species on the modern planet.
And we are rapidly depopulating the earth of the rest of it's species.
A species becomes extinct every 20 minutes.
In 300 years, half of all species will be extinct.
So, in about 475 years, all species, besides humans, will be extinct.
And apparently nothing happens to them when they die, huh?
What happens when humans kill each other and no life is left except a couple of bushes?
Then what? -.-
Then another big bang occurs and bacteria magically comes to existence and uses something it doesn't have to make more and more complicated bacteria that can't possibly be made with the nothingness it has at hand?
Then they turn into...?
A fish?
Then a monkey?
Then a person?
Then they die and become a tree?
Then the tree gets cut down and is printed as a Bible?
Then people are brought to Christ as a result.
Thanks for helping the cause Opti
:]
You've got a point.
But in the next 100 years, main important species like the bumble bee will be extinct. = less green = harder to breath = death.
Thats one example, but theirs alot more than 1 important species dieing in that timespan.
Human existence has ruled for thousands of years but were at the turning point where because of us, the planets going to be destroyed, and perhaps life will recycle again as it had originally 4 billion years ago.
To bring a bigger twist to this, lets introduce religion.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 12:14:46 AM
No sh!t you can alter how you look to a very small degree. And no sh!t the more desirable/stronger species prevails.
But none of the short story you just wrote tells me HOW A NEW SPECIES IS MADE.
Basically you just told me one type of whale prevails over another type of whale. Whoop-de-doo. Give me an example of a whale that sh!ts out a baby with wings that flies south for the winter. /LOL.
I'm sorry, but you'd have to be retarded to believe this bull...
Idk what you've been told but that has nothing to do with Evolution. Some of the XY's will have traits that the Y's dont and if those are beneficial, those traits will remain in the gene pool. The mating and interbreeding continues for many many years until you're left with something drastically different than the original X's. That's pretty much what part of the evolutionary theory is (granted I went straight from point A to point C in that example if you know what I mean). You also have to factor in the changing climates/environments, many of the older species wont walk the earth ever again because of minute changes like the level of oxygen in the air and I'm sure that works the other way around as well.
Please dont tell me you actually beleive a story that states everything we have now has always been here and nothing else came before it. That was the best way for people to make sense of something they had no understanding of, it's illogical... to say the least. Next you'll be saying that plate tectonics is all a myth, the brainchild of a socialist government that wants to harvest our children to feed Earth's extraterrestrial overlords. Or whatever it is you people so devoutly and foolishly beleive nowadays.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 12:31:29 AM
I win.
Humans are by far the dominant species on the modern planet.
And we are rapidly depopulating the earth of the rest of it's species.
A species becomes extinct every 20 minutes.
In 300 years, half of all species will be extinct.
So, in about 475 years, all species, besides humans, will be extinct.
And apparently nothing happens to them when they die, huh?
What happens when humans kill each other and no life is left except a couple of bushes?
Then what? -.-
Then another big bang occurs and bacteria magically comes to existence and uses something it doesn't have to make more and more complicated bacteria that can't possibly be made with the nothingness it has at hand?
Then they turn into...?
A fish?
Then a monkey?
Then a person?
Then they die and become a tree?
Then the tree gets cut down and is printed as a Bible?
Then people are brought to Christ as a result.
Thanks for helping the cause Opti
:]
That was so stupid that I'm going to use it troll Yahoo Answers.
Quote from: paki on September 20, 2010, 12:39:00 AM
Human existence has ruled for thousands of years but were at the turning point where because of us, the planets going to be destroyed, and perhaps life will recycle again as it had originally 4 billion years ago.
To bring a bigger twist to this, lets introduce religion.
Lulz.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 12:14:46 AM
Well damn o.O You're stubborn, persistent AND stupid..
No sh!t you can alter how you look to a very small degree. And no sh!t the more desirable/stronger species prevails.
But none of the short story you just wrote tells me HOW A NEW SPECIES IS MADE.
Basically you just told me one type of whale prevails over another type of whale. Whoop-de-doo. Give me an example of a whale that sh!ts out a baby with wings that flies south for the winter. /LOL.
I'm sorry, but you'd have to be retarded to believe this bull...
Buut during dinosaur times, there were LESS species that there are now, and DIFFERENT species than there are now.
Unless that one-in-a-few-thousand-billion chance of a beneficial mutation occured MULTIPLE times, AND SOMEHOW STUCK TO A SPECIE'S GENOME, none of what now exists could be in existence. /Evolutionisafool'stale.
I'm starting to seriously question your intelligence, Opti. I've always thought you were fairly smart... But DAMN...
You really just can't grasp the concept can you...
Are you even familiar with high school biology? DNA REPLICATION >> TRANSCRIPTION >> TRANSLATION >> PROTEINS
What part of "gradual process" are you not understanding? I'm done, no point in trying to enable your understanding of concepts that are too complicated for your understanding. I just answered your question with my quote..
^The gradual process you speak of would take billions of years, opti.
What xrows speaking of is the present and future, where your grasping the concept of current science and what we could do in the future.
Consider the past and think of this whole thing coming together again as a huge recycling life cycle.
Of course, I haven't read every word of both xrow and opti, but i'm saying this from the posts I've read.
ALLAH ALLAH
I didn't read that. So far you've (Opti, you, Allie) just been repeating the same junk anyways.
Let me dumb this down for you.
Humans didn't exist when dinosaurs did.
And 2 'Prevailing species' of triceratops' sure as hell didn't f*ck and make a human with horns and a tail.
And they sure as hell didn't get hit by the evolution stick and turn into a llama.
And the 'prevailing species' of triceratops sure as hell didn't 'prevail' until they became humans
Soooo humans magically came into existence how?
Based on what I've heard, evolution could constitute an orca pooping out a bagel, eating it, and turning into a floating vagina (which is obviously an extinct species by now LOL) and that vagina then sh!ts out Bob Saeget.
Lmfao, Opti, please go away until you "evolve" whatever part of your brain is missing.
Kthxbaiyoulosethanksforgivingup,whatasurprise.
You cant walk away from the "debate" Opti, creationists always think it means you gave up because they were oh so right. D:
EDIT: Too late.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 12:52:50 AM
I didn't read that. So far you've (Opti, you, Allie) just been repeating the same junk anyways.
Let me dumb this down for you.
Humans didn't exist when dinosaurs did.
And 2 'Prevailing species' of triceratops' sure as hell didn't f*ck and make a human with horns and a tail.
And they sure as hell didn't get hit by the evolution stick and turn into a llama.
And the 'prevailing species' of triceratops sure as hell didn't 'prevail' until they became humans
Soooo humans magically came into existence how?
Based on what I've heard, evolution could constitute an orca pooping out a bagel, eating it, and turning into a floating vagina (which is obviously an extinct species by now LOL) and that vagina then sh!ts out Bob Saeget.
If all we've been saying is the same thing over and over, you should pay attention and maybe you'll finally learn something about evolution since you obviously dont understand it, mang. Dont claim you do, that bolded part clearly shows that you in fact, do not.
"That bolded part" was a joke ::)
You still haven't explained where new species come from.
I just assume you don't know.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 01:05:05 AM
You still haven't explained where new species come from.
I alre---
Magic. They appear magically. You were right all along, Xrow; it was stupid of me to put logic and science before
a story the Bible's teachings of how life came to be. God must hate me, now I'll never be allowed to ride his fairy-ponies. :[
uhm, anyways, thanks for the 'I'm about to lose because I think bacteria poop turned into a donkey and everything just sorta happened, so i'll beat around the bush because I don't have an intelligent answer' comment Gavy boy.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 01:11:15 AM
uhm, anyways, thanks for the 'I'm about to lose because I think bacteria poop turned into a donkey and everything just sorta happened, so i'll beat around the bush because I don't have an intelligent answer' comment Gavy boy.
Well no, actually onc---
No problem. just wish my posts could have been as intel--- inteli--- >_< intel..ige...nt... as your's.
yours*
*Kills the effect*
Quote from: iwasbobo on September 20, 2010, 01:26:23 AM
yours*
*Kills the effect*
Well I
did say I wasn't as intelligent as him, right? :0
omg. god isnt real.
faggots
Quote from: GavinGill on September 20, 2010, 01:29:22 AM
Well I did say I wasn't as intelligent as him, right? :0
I SAW THAT. AT FIRST YOU SAID
Quote from: GavinGill on September 20, 2010, 01:29:22 AM
Well I did say I was as intelligent as him, right? :0
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Don't try to save yourself. =O
Gav, just answer the damn question >_>
And that "intel... inteli.." thing was lame and over-used.
Submit it or quit it.
dunno what that means
could mean heaps of shit that i dont get >:/ how can they not be real if i actually see them
no1 has seen god, some rtard just wrote a black book, claimed god was in it, and christians hated on evolution because it defies them
Quote from: Tricky on September 20, 2010, 01:39:36 AM
could mean heaps of **** that i dont get >:/ how can they not be real if i actually see them
no1 has seen god, some rtard just wrote a black book, claimed god was in it, and christians hated on evolution because it defies them
o.O..
It means you're failing horribly and therefore don't have the right to talk.
It was a mean joke, in essence.
And no, "evolution" doesn't defy Christianity, it contradicts our beliefs.
And "evolution" has not only not been proven, it's been disproven through science and reasoning.
K.
i cbf saying why thats a really, really bad way to silence someone lol
ill just say ur retarded and everyone you argue with in this thread is smarter then you
/hijack
Lol?
You're not worth the time, kiddo.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 01:35:35 AM
Gav, just answer the damn question >_>
And that "intel... inteli.." thing was lame and over-used.
Submit it or quit it.
inorite
The intelligent thing
was lame, I should have made a joke like that triceratops wall-o-text you made, eh? Oh hohohohoho. As for the question, I already said you're right. Everything was, is, and will be here because of magic - just like you said.
Look, this is me
thinking illogically saying you were right about magic creating all life on Earth. No point in
educating backing the theory of evolution if it's
gonna be ignored clearly wrong, right?
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 01:41:32 AM
And "evolution" has not only not been proven, it's been disproven through science and reasoning.
LMAO
I mean, "you're right."
Let's see.
You're flunking out of an (I'm guessing) public school.
I have all A's in a private school.
A C in your school is the equivalent of an A in my school.
My IQ is 144.
I was in the top 2% in my school on my last ACT.
YOU'RE not smarter than me.
Sigh, Gavin.. If you're just going to be a prick then can you please leave?
ur wasting ur time on a "kiddo" u said u wont waste ur time on
i hijacked ur whole interest nd turned it on me
ur ignoring gavins points to focus on me
no xrow i think im pretty dam smart compared 2 u son, i got the reaction im looking for from this nerd rager 8)
*Your wasting *your time on a "kiddo" *you said *you *wouldn't waste *your time on*.
I said "You're not worth the time, kiddo." Not "I won't waste my time on you, kiddo." Learn to read. /Faggot
*I hijacked *your whole interest *and turned it on me*.
Anyone would have just by contradicting me. "Evolve" a brain or something, kiddo.
*Your ignoring *Gavin*'s points to focus on me*.
I just answered him.. Wrong again.
*No *Xrow *I think *I'm pretty *damn smart compared *to *you son, I got the reaction *I was looking for from this nerd rager 8)*.
You're actually pretty unintelligent compared to me.
But I expect that you're also too stupid to realize that.
But I'll gladly debate you, and win.
The *'s are corrections. There are a hell of a lot of them.
tl;dr
nerdrager
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 01:47:11 AM
Let's see.
You're flunking out of an (I'm guessing) public school.
I have all A's in a private school.
A C in your school is the equivalent of an A in my school.
My IQ is 144.
I was in the top 2% in my school on my last ACT.
YOU'RE not smarter than me.
Public school C's = private school A's?
Dang d00d, that must be one helluva an education you're getting...
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 01:48:22 AM
Sigh, Gavin.. If you're just going to be a prick then can you please leave?
I'm the prick?
I took the time to read you're posts, you didn't (you said so yourself).
You threw the first insult, not me. I mean dang, I'm saying you're right about magic, fairies, and gnomes being the controlling forces of the universe.
hes nerdraging cuz he got outsmarted by me
@Tricky:
I edited your post too, maybe you can educate yourself with some good, old-fashioned grammar.
QuotePublic school C's = private school A's?
Dang d00d, that must be one helluva an education you're getting...
Actually yes, it is.
Evolution as in the ability to adapt to your environment is possible, but evolution as in how the earth was formed is impossible.... There is no way in hell that evolution can create something so vastly detailed, as in atoms, seasons, and above all, life... If it were true that evolution created the earth we would know by now how to give life. But as stated, everyone has there own opinion so no one can really say that someone is wrong for what they believe in.
I don't care about grammar, nerdrager. You should know that I'm capable of it, its how I forumed in 2008-2009.
Dolt nerdrager can't remember things.
Btw nerd rager its *you, son.* not you son,
nerdrager cant even grammar when he insults it ;d
Quote from: Tricky on September 20, 2010, 01:59:16 AM
I don't care about grammar, nerdrager. You should know that I'm capable of it, its how I forumed in 2008-2009.
Dolt nerdrager can't remember things.
If you don't care about grammar, why did you just use it?
/Ratard.
You were a nobody back then = No reason to remember you.
Just the fact that you've repeated 'nerdrager' like 50 times by now proves how witless and unintelligent you are.
Quote from: Tricky on September 20, 2010, 02:00:45 AM
Btw nerd rager its *you, son.* not you son,
nerdrager cant even grammar when he insults it ;d
The sentence would be grammatically correct either way, idiot.
kk nerdrager
i said it to prove i can use grammar, you prove things wrong that people say about you that arent true
damn its so easy to beat angry people who are hellbent on insulting on the internet these days, its all about angry beet red faces and being a keyboard warrior now :D
if it makes you feel any better, ive laughed my ass off this whole conversation we've had
put some ice on your head and chill lolololo
Quoteits all about angry beet red faces and being a keyboard warrior now :D
put some ice on your head and chill lolololo
This is the first time you've ever made me laugh.... with those two "sentences"
kk nerdrager
/Grow up.
i said it to prove i can use grammar, you prove things wrong that people say about you that arent true
And you just stopped using it because you know I'm right. Gj.
**** its so easy to beat angry people who are hellbent on insulting on the internet these days, its all about angry beet red faces and being a keyboard warrior now :D
Hah, I've been calm this whole time. But good job assuming.
if it makes you feel any better, ive laughed my ass off this whole conversation we've had
Once again, grow up.
put some ice on your head and chill lolololo
OOH YOU SO CLEVURR
I'm having a blast just reading this lol :D
for someone whos calm you've insulted me a fair few times :D
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 02:00:58 AM
/Ratard.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 02:00:58 AM
proves how witless and unintelligent you are.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 02:00:58 AM
You were a nobody back then = No reason to remember you.
/grow upQuote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 02:01:52 AM
The sentence would be grammatically correct either way, idiot.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 01:44:03 AM
You're not worth the time, kiddo.
you've made a lot of time for me, btwfyi im older then you
such a fun experience im having
Quote from: Faith on September 20, 2010, 01:58:09 AM
Evolution as in the ability to adapt to your environment is possible, but evolution as in how the earth was formed is impossible.... There is no way in hell that evolution can create something so vastly detailed, as in atoms, seasons, and above all, life... If it were true that evolution created the earth we would know by now how to give life. But as stated, everyone has there own opinion so no one can really say that someone is wrong for what they believe in.
SMH
Evolution has nothing to do with the creation of the Earth...
@ Xrow: Last one was a joke, you worded your post wrong. You meant public school A's are as good as private school C's but you said the opposite. :P
Quote
Evolution has nothing to do with the creation of the Earth...
What do you think scientists call it.....
@Xrow and Tricky: Stay on topic, this isn't spam.
Would've done it from anyone.
Quote from: Tricky on September 20, 2010, 02:09:09 AM
fyi im PHYSICALLY older then you
Quote from: GavinGill on September 20, 2010, 02:10:06 AM
@ Xrow: Last one was a joke, you worded your post wrong. You meant public school A's are as good as private school C's but you said the opposite. :P[/color]
Did I?
NOO!
Wait no..
No I said it right haha just kinda worded weirdly.
"A C in your school is the
equivalent of an A in mine."
= It takes as much work/brains/effort to receive an A in my school as it does to receive a C in Tricky's.
stay on topic lolololololnoob
evolution is real IN MY OPINION /ontopic
GG
Quote from: Tricky on September 20, 2010, 02:14:19 AM
stay on topic lolololololnoob
evolution is real IN MY OPINION /ontopic
GG
Get sarcastic in spam...
I actually do think its real, cuz of those weird as hell fish. o_O
Quote from: Tricky on September 20, 2010, 02:20:11 AM
I actually do think its real, cuz of those weird as hell fish. o_O
Explain.
Let's see what you're made of.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 02:13:17 AM
"A C in your school is the equivalent of an A in mine."
^ Translates to: Public school C = Private school A.
"An A in your school is the equivalent of a C in mine" translates to: Public school A = Private school C
^ Meaning a straight-A public school student is as smart as a straight-C student in private school.
I think. ._.
private school kids have easier education
Quote from: GavinGill on September 20, 2010, 02:22:44 AM
^ Translates to: Public school C = Private school A.
"An A in your school is the equivalent of a C in mine" translates to: Public school A = Private school C
^ Meaning a straight-A public school student is as smart as a straight-C student in private school.
I think. ._.
That..
Wait yeah I worded it wrong.
I think o.O
Da
mn that's confusing lololol.
the weird fish, derp. they are weird and have similar shit to humans or some ****ing stuff
@faith: everyone i know from a private school is feral, and people in all girls schools are massive sluts and the ones in all boys schools are just retards who have ego dribbling from their ears
@xrow: oic, if i make a mistake im a kiddo whos incredibly stupid, if you do its all funny
lol we need voovoo to remake hypocrisy
Quote from: Faith on September 20, 2010, 02:23:53 AM
private school kids have easier education
The average private school/traditional school kid learns more material than the average public school kid. A lot of parents put their kdis in traditional school even if they aren't christian just because of the higher standards of education or w/e.
@ Xrow: Lulz. Either way, I know what you meant. 8)
@Gav:
That's basically it lol.
And fosho :D. Thanks dood.
@Tricky:
Lol because I can laugh at my own mistakes.
And that's true, actually. Most of the kids at my school are driving nice cars to expensive houses.
But the girls aren't sluts to be honest. Most of them don't do anything like that.
EDIT:
The "weird fish?"...
Off topic: Weird how people in mini-societies (games, forums, etc) can have differing view points and still be kewl with each other where as in real life, that's almost unheard of.
I was actually just thinking that o.O
I know me and you are still cool.
And me and Opti prolly still are..
Tricky's homo though =]
I lol'd.
i laugh at everyones mistakes including my own
fyi e-drama is ****ing funny, individual expressions and views divide the masses.
thats whats even funnier.
I was actually gettin into it for a bit there :D
Quote from: Tricky on September 20, 2010, 02:25:33 AM
@faith: everyone i know from a private school is feral, and people in all girls schools are massive sluts and the ones in all boys schools are just retards who have ego dribbling from their ears
you never know >_>
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\thread.
Private school kids have no life.
Or at least the ones I knew.
Private school is really boring.
Private schools in Arizona suck compared with a public school in Vermont.
Schools in America can't compare to schools in Asia like japan, korea, or china.
Schools in America has state standards. Places like China has country standards.
TBH, you can compare anything unless you're 100% sure, so what I just said can be ignored by anyone who wants to say anything against it.
Since reading through all these comments is something I'm to lazy to do here's my take on evolution:
We change to fit the needs of our world. If the environment called for us to be smarter then we evolved to have bigger brains, according to my science teacher all this started when we started eating meat which we had to evolve to do since we were originally tree dwelling creatures. The meat provided protein for our brains which is what stimulated it's growth. According to the out-of-africa theory all humans migrated from africa all over the world. The reason europeans turned white is because we no longer needed black skin to protect us from the sun because it was cold and the sun wasn't harsh like it was in africa. There is no real arguing against evolution's existence. We are different colors because of evolution, our society developed because we evolved, and evolution only exists because we need to be able to adapt to our environments. The only thing that keeps people from believing it is their own stupid beliefs whether it be religion or just something personal.
Opti, nice pictures - I guess you ran out of arguments.
Obviously this debate is over.
Locked.
Quote from: Xrow on September 20, 2010, 11:47:07 PM
Opti, nice pictures - I guess you ran out of arguments.
Obviously this debate is over.
Locked.
LOL F'N OWND
Unlocked because it's a public thread, not a private conversation between 3-5 people.
hes a mod, he can kinda do it anyway
i woulda done it if i wasnt a corrupt person cuz of all the flames :D
Most people are ridiculous when it comes to disbelieving evolution :|
Re-Locked. The debate ended and was replaced by flaming.
it's on! >;O
it went from debating to flaming and then back to debating, unlocked
You cant just lock the thread because you want to, Xrow; leave it open for anyone else who might want to throw in their 2 cents.
naughty moderator!
I can't name anyone with good logic and intelligence in this community but probably me, Opti and Gavin.
;|
Quit locking it im trying to see what people have to say about my comment :|
i can, and thats just me, and what you said is just you. anyone who takes that to heart is prolly one of your fanboys
Quote from: zepher2211 on September 21, 2010, 12:21:56 AM
Quit locking it im trying to see what people have to say about my comment :|
I have something extremely important to tell you about your comment:
You and Lugia have really boring walls of text.
At least I can read some other people's walls.
I love how we're debating about locking a flaming debate topic.
Continue to discuss I guess.
Quote from: Allie on September 21, 2010, 12:25:59 AM
I have something extremely important to tell you about your comment:
You and Lugia have really boring walls of text.
At least I can read some other people's walls.
I really don't care if their interesting to anyone, as long as I think their informational.
Quote from: zepher2211 on September 21, 2010, 12:33:01 AM
I really don't care if their interesting to anyone, as long as I think their informational.
You should also care if people actually read them, just sayin
if no one reads it, cuz its boring, it doesnt matter how informational it is
Quote from: Optimism on September 19, 2010, 09:36:37 PM
King, what if I told you that I modified the genome of a select organism that facilitated the generation of a three-valve heart (the previous generation had a two valve heart). This process has the potential to take place over millions of years, given that the coding sequence must mutate for the production of a multicomplex protein//signaling pathway to promote such an event. However, within the laboratory, this can be forced within a single generation given that the coding sequence is known and can be readily duplicated to force such an occurrence. If nature selected for this variant upon its fruition, then this would be beneficial and maintain itself within the species' populous.
MUMBO JUMBO RIGHT?
WRONG -- I've done it.
King, mind elaborating on the following? If you understand the tenants of evolution, then, most certainly, explaining away the above will be difficult. Given that you don't understand the tenets of evolution, this won't be a problem for you. I've forced an expedited form of what would inevitably become an evolutionary process over millions (perhaps billions) of years given mutation of the specific base pairs required for the aforementioned protein code sequence//signaling pathway to facilitate the production of a tri-valve heart.
This isn't some made up process; I'VE DONE THIS IN THE LABORATORY...
Apparently, there is a bit of god in all of us, humans :).
It is true that I should care whether ppl read them but am I to assume everyone one has adhd?
You're to assume that people have troubles reading text that makes you yawn every 6 words.
Am I to assume these people never read a textbook?
I'd prefer to read a textbook about the history of textbooks than your paragraphs.
;[
Quote from: Tricky on September 21, 2010, 12:37:16 AM
if no one reads it, cuz its boring, it doesnt matter how informational it is
Exactly 8)
Quote from: Optimism on September 21, 2010, 12:37:25 AM
King, mind elaborating on the following? If you understand the tenants of evolution, then, most certainly, explaining away the above will be difficult. Given that you don't understand the tenets of evolution, this won't be a problem for you. I've forced an expedited form of what would inevitably become an evolutionary process over millions (perhaps billions) of years given mutation of the specific base pairs required for the aforementioned protein code sequence//signaling pathway to facilitate the production of a tri-valve heart.
This isn't some made up process; I'VE DONE THIS IN THE LABORATORY...
Apparently, there is a bit of god in all of us, humans :).
Genetic mutation through controlled conditions in a laboratory =/= "evolution" buddy.
Quote from: Allie on September 21, 2010, 12:53:55 AM
I'd prefer to read a textbook about the history of textbooks than your paragraphs.
;[
How amazingly ridiculous o_o /givesup
Jetpacks. Problem solved
^ :D
I can't take any of this convo seriously anymore haha.
Time to play :D
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 12:56:26 AM
Genetic mutation through controlled conditions in a laboratory =/= "evolution" buddy.
Are you denying mutations occur randomly throughout time within nature?
Obviously not, since you've admitted that mutation is possible in a laboratory environment; extending this logic, I'm assuming you will submit that it is possible within a natural environment. If mutation leads to change and nature selects for this change over time, then how sir, are you denying evolution outright, as this, by definition, is evolution. If I can manipulate a genome to force a new trait; therefore, leading to a new species (your concern earlier), then what is stopping nature from selecting for this mutation that occurs randomly (1 in 1MB [1,000,000 base pairs]).
The answer: nothing. Maybe you now understand? Probably not.
Quote from: Optimism on September 21, 2010, 01:05:44 AM
Are you denying mutations occur randomly throughout time within nature?
Obviously not, since you've admitted that mutation is possible in a laboratory environment; extending this logic, I'm assuming you will submit that it is possible within a natural environment. If mutation leads to change and nature selects for this change over time, then how sir, are you denying evolution outright, as this, by definition, is evolution. If I can manipulate a genome to force a new trait; therefore, leading to a new species (your concern earlier), then what is stopping nature from selecting for this mutation that occurs randomly (1 in 1MB (megabase pairs [1,000,000 base pairs]).
God dam.n, you guys are really getting into this. We now know Opti is at least doing
some work in college :P.
^ Lulz.
Bio seems interesting, maybe I should take that. .-.
Tyler is too mean in posts >_>. "Maybe you now understand? Probably not.".
Xrow's the one who called him stupid. :P
Quote from: Jeffalo13 on September 21, 2010, 01:27:02 AM
Tyler is too mean in posts >_>. "Maybe you now understand? Probably not.".
xrow calls everyone insults and pricks and stuff
Quote from: Optimism on September 21, 2010, 01:05:44 AM
Are you denying mutations occur randomly throughout time within nature?
Obviously not, since you've admitted that mutation is possible in a laboratory environment; extending this logic, I'm assuming you will submit that it is possible within a natural environment. If mutation leads to change and nature selects for this change over time, then how sir, are you denying evolution outright, as this, by definition, is evolution. If I can manipulate a genome to force a new trait; therefore, leading to a new species (your concern earlier), then what is stopping nature from selecting for this mutation that occurs randomly (1 in 1MB [1,000,000 base pairs]).
The answer: nothing. Maybe you now understand? Probably not.
Well then technically it does exist. But it doesn't exist in the most well-known version.
(Beneficial genetic mutations lead to more adept creatures)
Nope nope nope.
Quote from: GavinGill on September 21, 2010, 01:34:07 AM
Xrow's the one who called him stupid. :P
Don't you judge me :-X
Quote from: Tricky on September 21, 2010, 01:36:11 AM
xrow calls everyone insults and pricks and stuff
LOLTRU.
Prick is my fave :3.
Thank GOD for Optimism.
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 01:45:37 AM
Well then technically it does exist. But it doesn't exist in the most well-known version.
(Beneficial genetic mutations lead to more adept creatures)
Nope nope nope.
Don't you judge me :-X
LOLTRU.
Prick is my fave :3.
Given your lack-luster response, I'm willing to bet something sparked inside that mind of yours. Now, this is very important: don't run from this light, pursue it. Don't choose to remain ignorant because of fear -- consume it. I was once a republican Christian. Never again -- I didn't run. There is happiness outside the binding walls of religion, king. I would argue a greater happiness, a freedom of sorts (even with this freedom, morality still pervades itself).
wait
is opti's name tyler
i tought ur name was something like josh or jeff
*sadface*
Quote from: Optimism on September 21, 2010, 12:00:57 PM
Yes, sir!
Omfg! We were talking about evolution in my biology class and I was like "WHERE BE MY MAN TYLER".
:p.
Quote from: Optimism on September 21, 2010, 11:58:23 AM
Given your lack-luster response, I'm willing to bet something sparked inside that mind of yours. Now, this is very important: don't run from this light, pursue it. Don't choose to remain ignorant because of fear -- consume it. I was once a republican Christian. Never again -- I didn't run. There is happiness outside the binding walls of religion, king. I would argue a greater happiness, a freedom of sorts (even with this freedom, morality still pervades itself).
I... have to make a (de)motivational poster out of this.
Crevolution.
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 08:39:51 PM
Crevolution.
Well, since pure creationist theory has been torn to shambles, time to move onto "crevolution" >.>.
Quote from: Optimism on September 21, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
Well, since pure creationist theory has been torn to shambles, time to move onto "crevolution" >.>.
All evolution and creationism depend on are if you're super religious or not .-..
Quote from: Jeffalo13 on September 21, 2010, 09:25:07 PM
All evolution and creationism depend on are if you're super religious or not .-..
Well, according to biblical tenants, one better follow the creationist proposition fairly stringently :P.
OR, just sin until one is on their death bed, then accept Jesus Christ...
You see, an agnostic that devotes his life to aiding third world countries cannot enter the gates of heaven because he has not accepted Christ; however, a man that has raped and murdered a thousand children can simply ask forgiveness at the end of his life and receive the glory of a man who has lived righteously all his life.
\****ing rediclous
Quote from: Optimism on September 21, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
Well, since pure creationist theory has been torn to shambles, time to move onto "crevolution" >.>.
It was 3v1 and you ALL either ran out of arguments or repeated previous ones o.O
So ya, I win.
You lost, you just wouldn't admit it.
I got bored of arguing the same, completely logical answers.
/doesn't remember what I said
I am straight athiest.
Evolution might not make much sense, but there's more evidence of evolution than any other theory.
The only evidence of magic suddenly making everything appear is a book written by a human.
I'll leave you at this, gl Opti.
>;o
Quote from: Allie on September 21, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
The only evidence of magic suddenly making everything appear is a book written by a human.
o.O..
And the big bang theory is..
I don't believe in the big bang theory.
I do believe in evolution, though.
I haven't really researched the big bang, but I don't see enough evidence possibly collected to prove it.
But there's a better chance of the big bang then magic making everything.
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 09:45:44 PM
o.O..
And the big bang theory is..
The big bang theory is a theory.
Bible is said to be the truth.
I accepted christ. I am confused on some topics.
I haven't read the bible in a long time so I'm not sure if this is correct but....
Adam and Eve were the first humans on earth. However, dinosaurs are said to be before humans.
I won't question God, but I want to know more. I am just a human.
Athiests can just go along and not believe in a higher being but they don't have to trash a religions beliefs just because it doesn't go along with science.
Scientists that have both a religious view and a scientific view is way smarter than a one minded scientist who only looks at the scientific view.
How does life exist? Where is the beginning?
No one can answer these questions, no matter how much facts they have behind their "proof."
This has nothing to do with evolution does it?
This is a discussion.
He's asking for us to trash his religion.
Besides, he's saying he's winning without giving any proof that life was created by magic.
He had it coming.
>:|
Quote from: Allie on September 21, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
This is a discussion.
He's asking for us to trash his religion.
Besides, he's saying he's winning without giving any proof that life was created by magic.
He had it coming.
>:|
Ok. ;D
Quote from: Fyah on September 21, 2010, 09:54:36 PM
This has nothing to do with evolution does it?
Ya huh.
Evolution says that the big bang occurred out of nothing (Even though there's no possible way it could have. There was just that - nothing - to make it happen), And that's how the evolutionary process began.
Which is so stupid and full of holes it isn't even funny.
Quote from: Allie on September 21, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
This is a discussion.
He's asking for us to trash his religion.
Besides, he's saying he's winning without giving any proof that life was created by magic.
He had it coming.
>:|
None of you have given proof either. /Facepalm. -.-
And Opti's "proof" was artificial selection, not natural selection.
That's like planting a ficus in the Sahara (natural selection) and a ficus under perfect conditions (artificial selection), then comparing them.
"What is this I don't even.."
1. No, creation cannot be proven.
2. Neither can evolution.
3. Evolution can and has been disproven.
K there I win. >_>..
Quote from: Fyah on September 21, 2010, 09:57:47 PM
Ok. ;D
Oh come awnn defend yourself D:
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 10:28:42 PM
1. No, creation cannot be proven.
2. Neither can evolution.
3. Evolution can and has been disproven.
K there I win. >_>..
Oh come awnn defend yourself D:
Evolution has not been disproven, Evolution might have proof.
I don't defend myself when I don't need too.
Allie gave me a reason, and I accepted the reason. Not like Allie said, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 10:28:42 PM
Ya huh.
Evolution says that the big bang occurred out of nothing (Even though there's no possible way it could have. There was just that - nothing - to make it happen), And that's how the evolutionary process began.
Which is so stupid and full of holes it isn't even funny.
None of you have given proof either. /Facepalm. -.-
And Opti's "proof" was artificial selection, not natural selection.
That's like planting a ficus in the Sahara (natural selection) and a ficus under perfect conditions (artificial selection), then comparing them.
"What is this I don't even.."
1. No, creation cannot be proven.
2. Neither can evolution.
3. Evolution can and has been disproven.
K there I win. >_>..
Oh come awnn defend yourself D:
Logical fallacy seems to be confluent in each of your posts...
Quote from: Fyah on September 21, 2010, 10:51:07 PM
Evolution has not been disproven, Evolution might have proof.
I don't defend myself when I don't need too.
Allie gave me a reason, and I accepted the reason. Not like Allie said, you have no idea what you're talking about.
*Sigh.
They're discountenancing your beliefs dude. Isn't that enough of a reason?
Quote from: Optimism on September 21, 2010, 11:01:47 PM
Logical fallacy seems to be confluent in each of your posts...
Lack of substance seems to haunt yours.
As does repetitivity.
:\
Quote from: Fyah on September 21, 2010, 09:54:36 PM
The big bang theory is a theory.
Bible is said to be the truth.
A theory is more than a hypothesis fyi. And the Bible is only
considered to be the truth by some, that doesn't mean it
is.
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 10:28:42 PM
Evolution says that the big bang occurred out of nothing
As far as I know, the Big Bang has very little, if anything, to do with Evolution.
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 09:36:16 PM
It was 3v1 and you ALL either ran out of arguments or repeated previous ones o.O
So ya, I win.
Statements were only repeated because they needed to be. Don't know how any of us can "win" since it's not a competition.
Quote from: Xrow on September 21, 2010, 08:55:48 PM
To me, that is not evolution. That is mere logic and order.
Duh @ bolded.
Yeah, and we're all too stubborn. Lol.
Oh well. I enjoyed this debate with all of you (Seriously i did).
Evolution is a guild from bots.
(Blonde talk)
Quote from: GavinGill on September 22, 2010, 12:38:00 AM
A theory is more than a hypothesis fyi. And the Bible is only considered to be the truth by some, that doesn't mean it is.
As far as I know, the Big Bang has very little, if anything, to do with Evolution.
Statements were only repeated because they needed to be. Don't know how any of us can "win" since it's not a competition.Duh @ bolded.
It is more than a hypothesis, but not a fact.
Bible is SAID to be the truth for some.
@Xrow *Sigh* I don't bother to write a paragraph like you do.
The truth is what you think it is.
There is no universal truth, what you think of universal truth is another word: fact.
The bible might be the truth for you, but it's not fact, and has no proof to back up the slightest thing in the bible.
Quote from: Allie on September 22, 2010, 05:29:59 PM
The truth is what you think it is.
There is no universal truth, what you think of universal truth is another word: fact.
The bible might be the truth for you, but it's not fact, and has no proof to back up the slightest thing in the bible.
But what makes the bible a bible.
Why is it called B.C. and A.D. ? Why is Christmas, Christmas?
I never said it was fact. Lets end it at this. You could answer^
The last sentence was meant for Xrow.
>:|
Reality isn't realistic.
In reality, everything leaves evidence.
In reality, the past is controllable - And therefore so is evidence. By controlling the past, you can control the future.
Remind me how this is relevant.
>:|
Idk lmao.
Can this d4mn thing just end?
=|
What Thing?
I am so confused?
how do you control the past in the present?
Erase all records of the past, replace it with whatever past you want, and kill anyone who remembers otherwise.
how about you act different in the present time and change the future time?
^easier plz
Or you erase the past, replace it, kill anyone who remembers otherwise.
And because there is no past to compare to, the present and future is whatever you want it to be.
I like X's way of thinking :)
Quote from: Fyah on September 22, 2010, 05:59:22 PM
Why is it called B.C. and A.D. ? Why is Christmas, Christmas?
1. Because Christianity is (was?) the dominant religion. And it's no longer B.C and A.D, it's B.C.E (before common era) and C.E (common era).
2. Because Christmas is a Christian holiday...?
Quote from: Xrow on September 22, 2010, 06:26:52 PM
In reality, the past is controllable - And therefore so is evidence. By controlling the past, you can control the future.
Stop quoting that dang book! D:< Although it
is a great read... They
make us read it in school ovar here, can you beleive it's actually banned in many places?
Quote from: GavinGill on September 22, 2010, 11:54:12 PM
1. Because Christianity is (was?) the dominant religion. And it's no longer B.C and A.D, it's B.C.E (before common era) and C.E (common era).
2. Because Christmas is a Christian holiday...?
Stop quoting that dang book! D:< Although it is a great read... They make us read it in school ovar here, can you beleive it's actually banned in many places?
I WILL NOT. It houses much wisdumb, young one.
Quote from: Xrow on September 23, 2010, 12:52:08 AM
It houses much wisdumb, young one.
Trufax. Just try not to get carried away and make an effort to relate
everything in rl to it. :P
I'm told Animal Farm is doubleplusgood; have you read it? Been meaning to grab a copy but it's always signed out. =/
Ender's Game is pretty good as well if you haven't read O.S Card's work yet. Less of a focus on politics but just as good in certain regards. Idiots will tell you it's only appealing to bitter, egotistical individuals with a superiority complex because it "only focuses on (justifying) guilt-free revenge" but tbh, you're mind would have to be pretty warped to even reach such a conclusion in the first place.
Quote from: GavinGill on September 23, 2010, 07:02:01 AM
I'm told Animal Farm is doubleplusgood; have you read it? Been meaning to grab a copy but it's always signed out. =/
It is if you like history.
It's mostly just a reference to Russia.
Quote from: GavinGill on September 23, 2010, 07:02:01 AM
Trufax. Just try not to get carried away and make an effort to relate everything in rl to it. :P
I'm told Animal Farm is doubleplusgood; have you read it? Been meaning to grab a copy but it's always signed out. =/
Ender's Game is pretty good as well if you haven't read O.S Card's work yet. Less of a focus on politics but just as good in certain regards. Idiots will tell you it's only appealing to bitter, egotistical individuals with a superiority complex because it "only focuses on (justifying) guilt-free revenge" but tbh, you're mind would have to be pretty warped to even reach such a conclusion in the first place.
Loved Ender's Game. Tripleplusgood, even.
I was required to read Animal Farm a couple years ago for school.. Definitely didn't lol. I was more immature and less caring back then.
And I agree. I never gathered such a revelation from it.
Quote from: GavinGill on September 22, 2010, 11:54:12 PM
1. Because Christianity is (was?) the dominant religion. And it's no longer B.C and A.D, it's B.C.E (before common era) and C.E (common era).
2. Because Christmas is a Christian holiday...?
Stop quoting that dang book! D:< Although it is a great read... They make us read it in school ovar here, can you beleive it's actually banned in many places?
It is still B.C and A.D
Only non christians use it, Christians didn't only use B.C. Why do you think it's used worldwide? Christ lived once. May not be who he said he was if you ask different people, but he lived.
Christmas isn't just for christians. Are you really that retarded? I don't want to start a big internet arguement but that's not what I really was asking.
Lets not continue this shiz.
Quote from: Allie on September 23, 2010, 08:50:49 AM
It is if you like history.
It's mostly just a reference to Russia.
Actually, it's a metaphor for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, or the USSR. There is a difference :P.
Quote from: Jeffalo13 on September 23, 2010, 06:14:10 PM
Actually, it's a metaphor for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, or the USSR. There is a difference :P.
I am a historian, of sorts.
I know exactly its reference, and if I said the Soviet Union, more people would "?" than if I said Russia.
Quote from: Allie on September 23, 2010, 06:22:15 PM
I am a historian, of sorts.
I know exactly its reference, and if I said the Soviet Union, more people would "?" than if I said Russia.
Forgiven ::). :P.
*POPS A MOTHERF*CKING GAT IN THIS B*TCHA*SS NIG*ER CONVERSATION*
KLOCKED.
Quote from: Fyah on September 23, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
It is still B.C and A.D
Only non christians use it, Christians didn't only use B.C. Why do you think it's used worldwide? Christ lived once. May not be who he said he was if you ask different people, but he lived.
Christmas isn't just for christians. Are you really that retarded? I don't want to start a big internet arguement but that's not what I really was asking.
Lets not continue this shiz.
No... BC and AD are being phased out world wide, not just by non-Christians...
I never said anything about Jesus not living, not sure why you brought that up.
I never said Christmas was restricted to Christians either. You said "Why is Christmas, Christmas?" and I told you it was called
Christmas because it's a
Christian holiday. Just because it's celebrated by non-Christians as well doesnt mean it didnt start out as Christian holiday.
Quote from: Xrow on September 23, 2010, 11:28:46 PM
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KLOCKED.
Why do you keep locking this? If you dont want to continue, that's fine but it doesn't justify a lock.
Because D:
xD
Let it die on it's own, no need to lock it. D:
Quote from: GavinGill on September 24, 2010, 01:51:56 AM
No... BC and AD are being phased out world wide, not just by non-Christians...
I never said anything about Jesus not living, not sure why you brought that up.
I never said Christmas was restricted to Christians either. You said "Why is Christmas, Christmas?" and I told you it was called Christmas because it's a Christian holiday. Just because it's celebrated by non-Christians as well doesnt mean it didnt start out as Christian holiday.Why do you keep locking this? If you dont want to continue, that's fine but it doesn't justify a lock.
It's not being phased out worldwide.
The whole question was for someone else and didn't make sense when you answered it.
Gah.
Yes... it is. It's becoming more common and is replacing B.C and AD in newer text books. Historians are starting to use B.C.E and C.E more because they're the "politically correct" terms. I'm assuming it'll be more widely used in the East sooner than in the West though.
If I have never heard of this, it didn't happen.
It's still BC and AD as far as I know.
Quote from: Allie on September 24, 2010, 05:19:23 PM
If I have never heard of this, it didn't happen.
It's still BC and AD as far as I know.
You're not the truth, just because you didn't hear about it.
It hard to change a term used for over 100 years.
It still is B.C. and A.D.
I didn't hear about it, so it's still BC and AD, and it won't change for a long time.
Gl argueing with me, I even win arguements as small and stupid as these.
>;o
Like I said, it's now the "politically correct" term. Obviously there wont be an overnight change but it is starting to gradually replace B.C and A.D. If it's any consolation, it's expected that it'll take a century for BC and AD to be phased out completely.
You can argue all you want but trufax are trufax.
I don't argue.
I state.
I state that that will never happen.
Yeah, it's still BC and AD.
Never hurrd anythang else.
Quote from: Xrow on September 24, 2010, 09:11:05 PM
Yeah, it's still BC and AD.
Never hurrd anythang else.
You never heard of it? Wow.
Allie, it will begin to change but it won't change for a long time.
B.C. and A.D is still the term we use. It will take way longer than a century.
I actually have heard it. Just not lucratively.
And I doubt it'll change.
Well alright then.