Haven't seen a topic like this in a while so I'd figure just to see your guy's opinions. Leggo ! :)
define sectorers? in terms of skill there's only really ross and ES46, there are other people but since they don't call themselves good they aren't really recognized as good. l0l
Quote from: Heartless on February 03, 2013, 07:56:40 AM
Haven't seen a topic like this in a while so I'd figure just to see your guy's opinions. Leggo ! :)
Probably forgot a ton of players but this is my list from personal experiences.
PvP:
1. ImaginationX
2. Admin Yz
3. Admin Allie
4. Starscream55
5. Mod Nik
6. Sasuke
7. Selene
8. -Oreos-
9. Absense
10. ?
Sector: I just included grinders in this list as well.
1. Keum (DrunkenSparrow)
2. Rossbach
3. Admin Yz
4. Mod Shass
5. Rice wolf
6. Mod Angrod
7. SILKYSOX
8. RedNeon
9. Tzeshuan + Spider
10. ?
Base:
1. Twist of Fate
2. Corr
3. KillerPig
4. Ninja
5. &&&&&&
6. Tzeshuan
7. Sasuke
8.TinyPatch
9. ?
10. ?
^ can I be in there? c:
Last time I checked I could beat Sasuke and Oreos.
Quote from: hawk5005 on February 03, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
^ can I be in there? c:
Last time I checked I could beat Sasuke and Oreos.
just because you can beat x at y doesnt mean you are better than x at y, y may have more skills in y than you
:-*
list that is > all
pvp
1. ninja
2. cursed4ever
3. imag or me
4. imag or me
5. reaper of soul / 1387saqr
6. starscream55
7. allie
8. nik
9. sasuke
10. etc
sector skill:
ross and es46
sector grinding:
1. keum
2. shass
3. godz
4. me
5. etc
base:
1. lyfe
2. ninja
3. hct
4. corr
5. etc
Quote from: Iridion on February 03, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: hawk5005 on February 03, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
^ can I be in there? c:
Last time I checked I could beat Sasuke and Oreos.
just because you can beat x at y doesnt mean you are better than x at y, y may have more skills in y than you
:-*
That.. makes no sense...
If we replace x with a name, say Grim, and y with pvp, we get:
Just because you can beat Grim at pvp doesn't mean you are better than Grim at pvp, pvp may have more skills in pvp than you.
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 08:03:43 AM
define sectorers? in terms of skill there's only really ross and ES46, there are other people but since they don't call themselves good they aren't really recognized as good. l0l
ES is a tank l0l
Quote from: hawk5005 on February 03, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
Quote from: Iridion on February 03, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: hawk5005 on February 03, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
^ can I be in there? c:
Last time I checked I could beat Sasuke and Oreos.
just because you can beat x at y doesnt mean you are better than x at y, y may have more skills in y than you
:-*
That.. makes no sense...
If we replace x with a name, say Grim, and y with pvp, we get:
Just because you can beat Grim at pvp doesn't mean you are better than Grim at pvp, pvp may have more skills in pvp than you.
wow what a selfish one..
just because you can beat x at y doesnt mean you are better than x at y, x may have more skills in y than you
Quote from: Iridion on February 03, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: hawk5005 on February 03, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
^ can I be in there? c:
Last time I checked I could beat Sasuke and Oreos.
just because you can beat x at y doesnt mean you are better than x at y, y may have more skills in y than you
:-*
But that's not what you said.
Look at your first post again.
Honestly I am really good at sector and probably top 10.. its just no one sees me play
Quote from: hawk5005 on February 03, 2013, 08:57:23 AM
Quote from: Iridion on February 03, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: hawk5005 on February 03, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
^ can I be in there? c:
Last time I checked I could beat Sasuke and Oreos.
just because you can beat x at y doesnt mean you are better than x at y, y may have more skills in y than you
:-*
But that's not what you said.
Look at your first post again.
ya and i corrected myself in the second post?
look at the second post again :-*
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 08:03:43 AM
define sectorers? in terms of skill there's only really ross and ES46, there are other people but since they don't call themselves good they aren't really recognized as good. l0l
^ That.
"Top 10" can be taken differently from different views. Top 10 skillful players? Top 10 sectors who play the most?
For people voting with "skill" based top 10 part ("top 10 skillful players"), rather than "Top 10 sectors who play the most?:
/inb4 Ross is flamed for "saying" this.
/inb4 people people are being ignorant, don't read this, and think Ross is wrong and they are right.
/inb4 people don't read it because of what Ross just "said." (^)
People list the "top 10 at PvP" by their skill and how well they can fight in it, not by who spends the most time playing PvP. While in sector people most people vote for the people who simply play the most.
How is the overall time you spend playing sector completely based on how skillful a player is? (You can complain that people who do spend a long time on something (in his debate Sector) can have more skill, which can true if the "highly" skillful players plays the most over all others, or become skillful due to how much they play, however in some / most cases it is not true.) Now for a more detailed explanation on why.
Ross and his rambling....
Skill:
"A skill is the learned capacity to carry out pre-determined results often with the minimum outlay of time, energy, or both. In other words the abilities that one possesses."
Ross' option on what skill means (not definition based,) in the spoiler.
Just to note Ross heavily relies on "minimum outlay of time." (Plus the fact that it is in the definition and what people consider skill "ability to do simply do something.") However not all skill aspects are simply based of time. (non- timed things people can do such as who is the most skillful soccer player), but "for say" (by Ross' definition here) the ability to do something exceptional, above what any other person can do. If given the chance there are lots of people who can simply play for a long amount, but are they able to do something better than others can? Ex: Time to beat a sector level.
Just because someone plays for a long time does not always mean they they have "high skill" (unless they obtain it from spending a long time doing it) according to the definition. "With the minimum outlay of time" could be taken as time it takes to do a level. This also go against playing for long periods of time.
So basically you can do a point scale for skill. The faster they can do the level the "more" (higher) amount skill they have.
player 1: doing "x" lv in 1 min = 1.0 skill,
player 2: doing "x" lv in 30 seconds = 2.0 skill
2.0 skill > 1.0, thus player 2's skill > players 1.
As for the energy part, it can go both ways depending on your opinion. Going to keep this short. Doing a level over and over in the time frame 30 seconds - 1 min typically (hypothetically) should take less energy than doing it in 1 min - 1:30. IRO, simply playing the most is not considered using a "minimum amount of energy."
"The ability, coming from one's knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well: Carpentry was one of his many skills."
While people who play more possibly have more practice / knowledge. The problem relies on their ability to use that knowledge, and practice in order to do it "well," (for the aspects of Sector.)
This was defiantly not worth the 30 mins that took. No one is going to even read, but w/e.
PvP:
1. Imag (possibly Opti but never seen Opti really play, so keeping him out of the rankings.)
2. Allie (could be higher, because apparently "she never tries," so Ross does not know her "full potential and skill.")
3. Tricky (debatable on 2/3, however since Tricky failed the the duo tourney with Allie, Tricky nub shall be a lower rank here.)
4. Ninja
5. Star
6. Ross
7. Lone (umad)
8. x
9. x
10. x
9999999. Pig
Sector:
/Skip, people will just flame Ross.
Base:
1. Pig
2. Corr
3. Lone
4. Possibly Ninja
Dunno anymore, Ross rarely plays BC, never mind playing BvB. ::)
Quote from: Iridion on February 03, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
Quote from: hawk5005 on February 03, 2013, 08:11:50 AM
^ can I be in there? c:
Last time I checked I could beat Sasuke and Oreos.
just because you can beat x at y doesnt mean you are better than x at y, y may have more skills in y than you
:-*
As for what Iri is saying, some people are better fighting others, there is the players style of fighting (ex: Some people are better than others at running away, while there are people who are better at chasing,) also the active skills people use to consider, and etc. The list is not based on who can win against a specific person, but how well they fight overall. ::)
Im best bvb
boom cursed is knocked outta my top 10 and blue eyes is bestest of all time of all time time of all this time
just let me find my screen where i beat allie+opti
Some pvp lists dont have Crimson Chaos/Reaper of Soul,HOW? I pvp alot of him, and i THINK hes better than some of the guys u listed
:-\ Hes very good,should be at least 10th in all lists in my opinion.
Its just my opinion ofc :-\
Quote from: lara538 on February 03, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
Some pvp lists dont have Crimson Chaos/Reaper of Soul,HOW? I pvp alot of him, and i THINK hes better than some of the guys u listed
:-\ Hes very good,should be at least 10th in all lists in my opinion.
Its just my opinion ofc :-\
maybe they just havent pvped him? lol
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 10:22:04 AM
Quote from: lara538 on February 03, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
Some pvp lists dont have Crimson Chaos/Reaper of Soul,HOW? I pvp alot of him, and i THINK hes better than some of the guys u listed
:-\ Hes very good,should be at least 10th in all lists in my opinion.
Its just my opinion ofc :-\
maybe they just havent pvped him? lol
Well he pvp alot but yeh its possible,but anyway to make a pvp list u need to pvp alot, and pvping a lot its hard to believe u didnt pvped a guy that pvp everyday.
Anyway its possible :-\
Quote from: Cooky on February 03, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
Honestly I am really good at sector and probably top 10.. its just no one sees me play
Quote from: Cooky on February 03, 2013, 10:30:38 AM
Quote from: Cooky on February 03, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
Honestly I am really good at sector and probably top 10.. its just no one sees me play
wow we read it stop spamming
i'm superb in pvp
Oh i forgot to say Baggie should be top 10 sectorers 8)
If any1 even know who he is lol.
im top 1.
in all.
and y is corr top 3 bvb. that nigr dunn0 teamwork l0l.
i am num 1 pvp and base
Baggie.
For PvP, I'll just give my like top whomever, since I actually have reasoning (not trying to argue, throwing in my opinion)
1. Optimism - Greatest pvper of all time no doubt. Adapts to any style, can use each and every skill without losing, and can adequately fight anything that's thrown against him.
2. Starscream55 - I've seen from experience star's much-better-than-average timing and reaction time, and with the correct techniques, star can pummel almost anyone, if he's focused.
3. ImaginationX - He didn't used to be that good, but determination has allowed him to severely improve his timing and reaction time, similar to star, except that Imag actually managed to create his OWN rush technique. Unless someone were to master how to tear down his rush technique, Imag definitely deserves top three.
4. Rossbach - Going for an incredible stretch here, but Ross's ability to get away from an opponent, and bring them within a pushable range definitely must count for something. A push is a kill, no matter how much the opponent rages about it.
5. Allie - I'm putting myself this high not for ego (else I'd rank myself higher), but because I fight solely without a skill. I am among the only pvpers who learned to fight with only the default style, and my ability to focus when necessary (in 1v1s, above all) is definitely something that any good pvper notices, allowing me to defeat nearly anyone who doesn't lag (though I blow against lag, incredibly).
6. Ninja - Putting him this low possibly because he's rusty, but from what I've seen, he makes mistakes consistently whilst using his rush techniques. However, he deserves a prominent place in the top 10 pvpers due to his ability to fight while NOT making mistakes. If you can trick Ninja, you'll have a chance, else you're a goner.
7. Corr - Corr certainly may believe he deserves much higher on this list, but I believe (as did most of the top pvpers) that he's mostly all talk (and horrid technique). Corr's main techniques include running and guarding on the fences of flop. It's just an advanced version of lyric, running the entire game - effective but hardly considered a professional method of PvP.
8. Yz - While able to efficiently use lag, the base skill that I'VE seen from Yz is mediocre at best. Due to being a complete lagfest, Yz learned how to abuse his lag to the furthest extent he can, instead of how to PvP most efficiently. This is only judged from the videos he's released of him PvPing, but I see consistent mistakes and horrible flow from almost all of them - no offense Yz.
That's all I can think of atm. These are strictly my opinions and from my experiences whilst PvPing (and watching them PvP), so anyone I do not (or did not) actively PvP are not included in this list.
imho i think i am top 1. If anyone denies meet me at the alley 5 o clock.
corr thinks hes bad now lol
still tho corr > lyric
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 04:11:55 PM
corr thinks hes bad now lol
still tho corr > lyric
br0 she call u worse than corr
l0l
how u gonna take that
be a man
Quote from: 123bomb123 on February 03, 2013, 04:13:45 PM
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 04:11:55 PM
corr thinks hes bad now lol
still tho corr > lyric
br0 she call u worse than corr
l0l
how u gonna take that
be a man
w/e lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy436fWGsFs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy436fWGsFs)
allie knows shit there u go
jk dont be mad
Quote from: Allie on February 03, 2013, 02:46:38 PM
4. Rossbach - Going for an incredible stretch here, but Ross's ability to get away from an opponent, and bring them within a pushable range definitely must count for something. A push is a kill, no matter how much the opponent rages about it.
Did not expect that from Allie. ::)
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy436fWGsFs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy436fWGsFs)
See wtf, if u still play like that today u don't deserve top 20. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you must have gotten much better.
Quote from: Allie on February 03, 2013, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy436fWGsFs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy436fWGsFs)
See wtf, if u still play like that today u don't deserve top 20. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you must have gotten much better.
2 years ago and beat corr and now he's worse, makes me feel more confident that ur judgement is retarded lol
u got worse too.
way worse
xDD
Quote from: 123bomb123 on February 03, 2013, 05:07:29 PM
u got worse too.
way worse
xDD
yes z u r best n u say i am bad so i am bad :(
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 05:05:05 PM
Quote from: Allie on February 03, 2013, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: Yz on February 03, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy436fWGsFs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy436fWGsFs)
See wtf, if u still play like that today u don't deserve top 20. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you must have gotten much better.
2 years ago and beat corr and now he's worse, makes me feel more confident that ur judgement is retarded lol
I don't think you read my judgement. If you did, you wouldn't sound so rtarded saying that.
w8 so u are saying corr is #7 now even though i beat him when i was apparently playing bad, and since then he has gotten worse since he's playing for fun now
this is wat i dont get
Allie!! Am i in top 20?
z #1 all tbh
I love these topics.
Quote from: lara538 on February 03, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
Some pvp lists dont have Crimson Chaos/Reaper of Soul,HOW? I pvp alot of him, and i THINK hes better than some of the guys u listed
:-\ Hes very good,should be at least 10th in all lists in my opinion.
Its just my opinion ofc :-\
Thank you Maxter ^^, you are good as well, would be way better if you had Membership as well, even though nobody really knows it. :D I don't know about top ten but my top 5 PvPers{not including myself cause I don't wanna be /ego, have a freaking debate) would include Cursed4Ever, Ninja, ImaginationX, starscream55, and Yz . Don't really care much about BvB or sector but for BvB: Twist Of Fate, Corr, Ninja, xHcTx, and Lyfe. For sector, from my previous experiences would be Baggie, Yz, GODZ, Aln, and Laxus.
Quote from: 1387saqr on February 03, 2013, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: lara538 on February 03, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
Some pvp lists dont have Crimson Chaos/Reaper of Soul,HOW? I pvp alot of him, and i THINK hes better than some of the guys u listed
:-\ Hes very good,should be at least 10th in all lists in my opinion.
Its just my opinion ofc :-\
Thank you Maxter ^^, you are good as well, would be way better if you had Membership as well, even though nobody really knows it. :D I don't know about top ten but my top 5 PvPers{not including myself cause I don't wanna be /ego, have a freaking debate) would include Cursed4Ever, Ninja, ImaginationX, starscream55, and Yz . Don't really care much about BvB or sector but for BvB: Twist Of Fate, Corr, Ninja, xHcTx, and Lyfe. For sector, from my previous experiences would be Baggie, Yz, GODZ, Aln, and Laxus.
Aln hacks o.o
Quote from: 1387saqr on February 03, 2013, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: lara538 on February 03, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
Some pvp lists dont have Crimson Chaos/Reaper of Soul,HOW? I pvp alot of him, and i THINK hes better than some of the guys u listed
:-\ Hes very good,should be at least 10th in all lists in my opinion.
Its just my opinion ofc :-\
Thank you Maxter ^^, you are good as well, would be way better if you had Membership as well, even though nobody really knows it. :D I don't know about top ten but my top 5 PvPers{not including myself cause I don't wanna be /ego, have a freaking debate) would include Cursed4Ever, Ninja, ImaginationX, starscream55, and Yz . Don't really care much about BvB or sector but for BvB: Twist Of Fate, Corr, Ninja, xHcTx, and Lyfe. For sector, from my previous experiences would be Baggie, Yz, GODZ, Aln, and Laxus.
Oh god. I thought you said Aln for PvP. lmao.
^LOLNO that's going overboard.
because lyfe and twist of fate aren't the same person l0l
Quote from: Epic xD on February 03, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
because lyfe and twist of fate aren't the same person l0l
LOLOLOLOL that was funnyyy
Nice sarcasm, Einstein. Just pointing out to OmegaNeox that Twist of Fate = Lyfe.
LOLOLOLOL.
LOLOLOLOL.
y am i in no1 list wow y
Thank you.
You know that big ****ing tree in Avatar? Yea, that's me.
Quote from: Optimism on February 03, 2013, 11:31:41 PM
You know that big ****ing tree in Avatar? Yea, that's me.
And Opti is back ;D ;D
Quote from: Optimism on February 03, 2013, 11:31:41 PM
You know that big ****ing tree in Avatar? Yea, that's me.
Hi opti :3 Wb?
I'm downloading. So bored ;/.
Opti's 6 retirement and coming back, lol.
Quote from: Optimism on February 03, 2013, 11:53:15 PM
I'm downloading. So bored ;/.
"ok i quit 4ever this time guys" lol
opti= brett favre of BC
Stay on-topic nubs.
Good pvpers(my opinion)
1.Redemption
-Yz
-Ninja(best)
-xHcTx
-GM Spiderstar
-Rossbach
-GM Selene
-FM Grim
2.Skill Society
-Reaper of soul(best)
-Final oblivion
-DayDreamzz
--Deadly-
-Apocalypto
3.Zeal
-Corr(best)
-Twist of fate
-Tinypatch
-mo9
-MisterZ
-DreaMerPoke
4.Schism
-Mod Nik
--Alex-
-Reviax
-ImaginationX(best)
-FlareFire
-starscream55
--Delta-
-loli
5.Unbalanced
-MFxPounder
-Maxter_Gundam
--TheNorthFace-
-Laxus
-Tzeshuan
--Sasuke-(best)
-Oreos
6.Lone_Wolves
-GM Materger(best)
-Medchill
--Ares-
-OG Kush
--Olrac-
7.Sanctuary
-Allie
-GM Optimism(best)
So, I arranged wut i experienced and heard about good pvpers in main pvp guilds..
"dill"
"daydreamz"
"delta"
lol wat
Quote from: Yz on February 04, 2013, 11:29:29 AM
"dill"
"daydreamz"
"delta"
lol wat
Ive never seen dill and delta's play.. but some guys told me they r good
so i included them
day is better than past
so,, ye,,i judged he became pvper who couldnt be heard 'suck' from others..
Quote from: Airilly on February 04, 2013, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Yz on February 04, 2013, 11:29:29 AM
"dill"
"daydreamz"
"delta"
lol wat
Ive never seen dill and delta's play.. but some guys told me they r good
so i included them
day is better than past
so,, ye,,i judged he became pvper who couldnt be heard 'suck' from others..
Dill doesn't PvP hun.
KK i modified
thx for your kind teaching yz and selene
yez u c dat yz, im g00d at pvp
just seems like u listed every pvper in existence tbh
i dont c u in the list br0
lol, I don't thin you understand I'm the worst pvp'er around, I can't do shit. I struggle to beat a lvl 1:)
Quote from: Yz on February 04, 2013, 11:57:06 AM
just seems like u listed every pvper in existence tbh
Kinda looks like.
If he putted me and mfx he should have putted CodePurple, and also matt. l0lp
And honestly im far from ego,ik im not a real good pvper like some other ppl he listed :-\
I think he meant pvpers that are good enough to u have fun playing with lol :P
Cross out everyone else xHcTx is the best ever imaginable ! All hail him
Quote from: 1387saqr on February 04, 2013, 07:44:55 PM
Cross out everyone else xHcTx is the best ever imaginable ! All hail him
[/quote
wat
/@Misterz
lol, frankly speaking ive never met u in pvp.. but u always said u r best..
so i included u..
and i didnt include ppls outside of those 7 pvp guilds..
so i ofc k many ppls who r good outside of those guid...
but if i included them i should use many pages for that..
/@Maxter_Gundam
no,i cant agree with u, cuz u r rly good..
not just good enough to play..
and in my thought, u were a patch.. and u hadgood skills of patch..
It's okay, you're guess was correct. I am #1. Even Allie says so.
Quote from: lara538 on February 04, 2013, 03:45:27 PM
Quote from: Yz on February 04, 2013, 11:57:06 AM
just seems like u listed every pvper in existence tbh
Kinda looks like.
If he putted me and mfx he should have putted CodePurple, and also matt. l0lp
And honestly im far from ego,ik im not a real good pvper like some other ppl he listed :-\
I think he meant pvpers that are good enough to u have fun playing with lol :P
aww.. idk matt changed his name..
yes,, he is good enough to enter my list..
Quote from: Optimism on February 03, 2013, 11:53:15 PM
I'm downloading. So bored ;/.
***got never plays anyways
o, I forgot poke in my list.
yeah, he's in there somewhere.
Quote from: Allie on February 04, 2013, 10:18:36 PM
o, I forgot poke in my list.
yeah, he's in there somewhere.
awwww
i dont play much, if at all anymore so i guessed it was an "active top player" thread
i might try dm sometime but from what i hear pvp is still dead
Quote from: spiderstar on February 03, 2013, 08:06:45 AM
Quote from: Heartless on February 03, 2013, 07:56:40 AM
Haven't seen a topic like this in a while so I'd figure just to see your guy's opinions. Leggo ! :)
...
Base:
...
5. &&&&&&
...
Sweet, I got into someone's top 5 list in only 3 weeks. :D I'm still not even lv 100 yet lol
btw you misspelled my name. It's only 4 & signs, not 6.
Lol if more actives played, it'd actually be interesting and more competitive !
Too many controversial definitions for best sectorer, so I won't do those
PvP (in no particular order in terms of skill since I don't wanna have to order them)
Yz
FlareFire
Reaper of Soul
starscream55
ImaginationX
GM Optimism
Mod Nik
Allie
Cursed4Ever
Quickspeed
Base(in no particular order in terms of skill since I don't wanna have to order them):
Quickspeed
Lyfe
Corr
LONE
xHcTx
Not enough basers l0l
Quote from: Jonathan on February 08, 2013, 07:36:05 AM
Too many controversial definitions for best sectorer, so I won't do those
PvP (in no particular order in terms of skill since I don't wanna have to order them)
Yz
FlareFire
Reaper of Soul
starscream55
ImaginationX
GM Optimism
Mod Nik
Allie
Cursed4Ever
Quickspeed
Base(in no particular order in terms of skill since I don't wanna have to order them):
Quickspeed
Lyfe
Corr
LONE
xHcTx
Not enough basers l0l
Muahahahaahha!
Quote from: Airilly on February 04, 2013, 09:22:49 PM
/@Maxter_Gundam
no,i cant agree with u, cuz u r rly good..
not just good enough to play..
and in my thought, u were a patch.. and u hadgood skills of patch..
I wont try to argue anymore cuz would be stupid we keep discussing abt it
So, i only have to say: Thanks ;) :D ;D
Also im a patch again now :P
Its hard to vs surges way faster than u as a patch ik :-\
Also tbh i think i can MAYBE have a place in 5-10 in bvb.
Some of u may think now that im being ego,but idk if i really would deserve, im just commenting that i can maybe be good enough.
Some good bvbers:
Corr
Mod Nik
Twist
xHctx
TinyPatch(that no longer plays)
Killer Pig
GM Spiderstar maybe
Ninja
SingSorrow maybe
Me maybe
Sas
Tze
&&&&
MfxPounder
im best tho hehe