[Cooky]

I believe 9/11 was either

a) organized by the US government   or

b) the US government knew it was going to happen and did nothing to stop it

I know a lot about this subject, if anyone wants to debate go right ahead 


(made this topic cuz Materger encouraged me to debate about it on forum)

[ghostkid17]

I believe it was that they had done nothing to stop it. I've heard things like there were reports from countries around the area (like egypt greece ect.) that reported the planes or something and that there was no safety protocol to report the planes or something. This may be wrong info, I don't have the best memory. ._.

[Yz]

Set up by US to get oil from other countries.

[Cooky]

Set up by US to get oil from other countries.

Yes, also there is a $1 Trillion lithium deposits that were discovered in 2010. Lithium is used in all electronics, cellphones, computers, ipads, etc.

I've heard things like there were reports from countries around the area (like egypt greece ect.) that reported the planes or something

Yes that is true, there were way too many warning signs

[Cooky]

Elaborate please.

Elaborate on what exactly? Why they did it? I just answered that in my previous post.

[JustRK]

I did intel for the US Marines before I went out there myself and sorry to tell you these conspiracies are bs. Unless somehow magically some secret conspiracy organization has a clearance level above top secret which is the highest they will grant someone then I missed the memo. Do you know how insane authorizing the death of your own emergency services is? Someone would have surely admitted it by now in an attempt to get famous, but guess what? It's easy to analyze what anyone has and say that's why we did it.

Also in response to your lithium bit. That one trillion also includes other metals and it's supposed to help the economy in the middle east as well since we're helping them rebuild their government and not just for our own benefit.

I've seen several of my squad members get killed and the opposition is real, if I knew it was my own government on the other team I'd surely have gone rogue with the top secret info, but obviously that's not happening  

[Cooky]

I did intel for the US Marines before I went out there myself and sorry to tell you these conspiracies are bs. Unless somehow magically some secret conspiracy organization has a clearance level above top secret which is the highest they will grant someone then I missed the memo.

Yea because if the George Bush administration decided to do a top secret, illegal operation that murders thousands of americans, they would let all the US Marines know 

Do you know how insane authorizing the death of your own emergency services is? Someone would have surely admitted it by now in an attempt to get famous

The only ones who would know about it are the ones who did it, so they would be essentially turning themselves in.

Also in response to your lithium bit. That one trillion also includes other metals and it's supposed to help the economy in the middle east as well since we're helping them rebuild their government and not just for our own benefit.

Doesn't matter. Its there and you can be sure that we want it.


The government has lied before to start wars, what was to stop them from lying again?

[Cooky]

I did intel for the US Marines before I went out there myself and sorry to tell you these conspiracies are bs.

You think that the government lying to us so they have reason to start a war (which has happened in the past) is a conspiracy?

Whats your idea of what happened?

That 19 muslims armed with box cutters taking orders from a bearded guy in a cave in Afghanistan defeated the United States multi billion dollar air defense security system?

That sounds more like the conspiracy theory to me.

[JustRK]

everything ignorant i said

l0l. Being granted a top secret clearance means I had access to inter-militarized operations. That means if any branch of government put their seal of approval on anything I would be able to see it. There is no special documentation that can only be kept sercret by only the president or any of these other whack ideas because the president is the commander in chief of the military which means his plans go to who? Intel aka people with top secret clearances like me.

And about the lithium / other metals? We already used some of it to make drones. So what did you say about wanting it if we already have it? The stuff you know is outdated. Do you know why? Because I already knew before the media nit picked it and then conspiracy addicts nit picked it further and took it to the head.

[Cooky]

l0l. Being granted a top secret clearance means I had access to inter-militarized operations. That means if any branch of government put their seal of approval on anything I would be able to see it. There is no special documentation that can only be kept sercret by only the president or any of these other whack ideas because the president is the commander in chief of the military which means his plans go to who? Intel aka people with top secret clearances like me.

I'm pretty sure if the president decided he wanted to murder thousands of his own people and lie about it so he had reason to start a war (and get more of his own people killed), he wouldn't file any documents about it. He's not going to write down his plans and pass them around to everyone with top secret clearance. No one is that stupid. If you are going to commit the biggest crime in USA history, you don't write it down a piece of paper for it to get 'approved'. Sorry but I am not buying any of your stuff, I think you are just too close minded like most Americans. I don't blame you, its hard to believe your own country would murder their own people. The government has lied to start wars before, and it shouldn't be a surprise that they went and did it again.

[JustRK]

I don't understand how the government works

I think it's reverse buddy because you don't even know how the government operates and you're going to try and tell me anyway about how it does? You are fueling your point based on what? Your own assumption and some random articles you read on the internet?

The president doesn't make these decisions by himself. Hell 90% of all the militarized actions had nothing to do with the president and were just brought up soley through senate and you're telling me the president somehow managed to help a terrorist organization behind senates back? yeah f$# right. Many important military officials sit in the house of the senate while this is decided and you're also going to tell me the greatest veterans of this country who have been in these wars turned a blind eye so their subordinates could die in battles they survived? Get real dude. So I'm closed minded because I know FACTS? I've read facts on paper and I know every protocol by hand and I'm close minded? lmao maybe you should go earn the credentials to earn any kind of clearance, climb the ladder to earning a top secret clearance, go to war and watch your squad die and come back to me about being close minded.

[Yz]

doubt someone on BC had access to top secret government info. usually people with that info gets killed by government anyway for telling people so if u rly had that info u'd be tracked rite now they got ur ip bro dun u get it aliens are real

no but rly they either wouldn't have told u or ur liar to cover it up for ur baddo government and osama died in like 2001 ur all liars liars liars no freedom for u america

[Cooky]

you're telling me the president somehow managed to help a terrorist organization behind senates back?

I don't think I said anything about the government 'helping a terrorist organization'. Not sure where you got that from! I believe the US government commited a crime and killed thousands of their own people, that would make the US government the terrorists, wouldn't it?

So I'm closed minded because I know FACTS?

No, you're close minded because you refuse believe something could have happened while you were in the military without you knowing about it. You refuse to believe the government lied to us, even though they've done it before.

[Cooky]

You are fueling your point based on what? Your own assumption and some random articles you read on the internet?

Random articles, science, and history to be exact.

A few things that were reported to have happened on 9/11 are scientifically impossible. For example, the tower falling at free fall speed and turning into dust and shredded pieces of steel. Things don't turn to dust by falling. Things don't fall at free fall speed unless there is nothing blocking their fall, meaning there must have been explosives planted in the building (there is video proof that shows explosions coming from the build and multiple people including fire fighters reporting explosions) that blew up the building as it collapsed so there was no resistance as it fell.

And that's just the tip of the ice berg buddy.

[Purple]

You refuse to believe the government lied to us, even though they've done it before.

WHAT? THEY LIED TO US? I thought they would tell the truth 100% of the time! We should start a riot! **** the government!

seriously what's the point in this. You'll never know, NEVER.

They may have done it, sure, but it's not anyone's place to say that they did, because very few people know whether or not the government actually did it.

[Yz]

You refuse to believe the government lied to us, even though they've done it before.

WHAT? THEY LIED TO US? I thought they would tell the truth 100% of the time! We should start a riot! **** the government!

seriously what's the point in this. You'll never know, NEVER.

They may have done it, sure, but it's not anyone's place to say that they did, because very few people know whether or not the government actually did it.

debates are usually based on why you think something happened. can't really debate on something that there's a definite yes/no answer too

[JustRK]

you're telling me the president somehow managed to help a terrorist organization behind senates back?

I don't think I said anything about the government 'helping a terrorist organization'. Not sure where you got that from! I believe the US government commited a crime and killed thousands of their own people, that would make the US government the terrorists, wouldn't it?

So I'm closed minded because I know FACTS?

No, you're close minded because you refuse believe something could have happened while you were in the military without you knowing about it. You refuse to believe the government lied to us, even though they've done it before.

I'm pretty sure if the president decided he wanted to murder thousands of his own people and lie about it so he had reason to start a war (and get more of his own people killed), he wouldn't file any documents about it. He's not going to write down his plans and pass them around to everyone with top secret clearance. No one is that stupid. If you are going to commit the biggest crime in USA history, you don't write it down a piece of paper for it to get 'approved'.

Failure to document something as crazy as a decision to go to war or allowing someone to destroy anything in the US would be high treason and would be considered helping a terrorist organization smart one.

I've read all the files that have been kept secret from civilians like you. It's civilians like you who spew garbage and spread propaganda in the first place that increases the morale of the enemy. I'm not closed minded because I know almost every wrong doing, short coming and insane decision made by the government. You on the other hand have only have some belief that you can't prove and you keep saying the same thing to me. I'm far from close minded, but you, well you are a lot closer. Aside from seeing my squad die I've seen how creative these guys can get with improvised explosives. They didn't have just box cutters and they studied well. What ever gay movie you saw and article read you are blind and uneducated to underestimate someone as ambitious as the people who sought out to get revenge for what they believe was the wrong doing of the previous bush and clinton administration.

I know when my country sends in troops just as filler, to create hope for a nation just so they can face situations that are life or death. You? You're just some unknowing civilian and we keep it that way for a reason.

[Cooky]

seriously what's the point in this. You'll never know, NEVER.

Could be said for all conspiracy theories.

Its just something to think about.

debates are usually based on why you think something happened. can't really debate on something that there's a definite yes/no answer too

Well said Yz.

[JustRK]

You are fueling your point based on what? Your own assumption and some random articles you read on the internet?

Random articles, science, and history to be exact.

A few things that were reported to have happened on 9/11 are scientifically impossible. For example, the tower falling at free fall speed and turning into dust and shredded pieces of steel. Things don't turn to dust by falling. Things don't fall at free fall speed unless there is nothing blocking their fall, meaning there must have been explosives planted in the building (there is video proof that shows explosions coming from the build and multiple people including fire fighters reporting explosions) that blew up the building as it collapsed so there was no resistance as it fell.

And that's just the tip of the ice berg buddy.

You can save me the physics lesson I passed that college course ages ago. There's also science with evidence supporting another theory based on the blue prints of the actual twin towers which is more accurate than what you are saying. Because my department went through that evidence you stated and guess who created it? some sub-par civilian.

I could smash you in this debate all day. The tip of your ice berg melted it seems.

[Purple]

You refuse to believe the government lied to us, even though they've done it before.

WHAT? THEY LIED TO US? I thought they would tell the truth 100% of the time! We should start a riot! **** the government!

seriously what's the point in this. You'll never know, NEVER.

They may have done it, sure, but it's not anyone's place to say that they did, because very few people know whether or not the government actually did it.

debates are usually based on why you think something happened. can't really debate on something that there's a definite yes/no answer too

I was asking what's the point in debating 9/11, not what a debate consists of.

seriously what's the point in this. You'll never know, NEVER.

Could be said for all conspiracy theories.

Its just something to think about.

debates are usually based on why you think something happened. can't really debate on something that there's a definite yes/no answer too

Well said Yz.

It may be something to think about, but it's stupid to debate it when you aren't using facts and/or start to lie.

I'll give examples:

"The only ones who would know about it are the ones who did it, so they would be essentially turning themselves in. "

You don't know, stop acting like that's a fact.

"You think that the government lying to us so they have reason to start a war (which has happened in the past) is a conspiracy?"
Conspiracy:

A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
So yes.

"The government has lied to start wars before, and it shouldn't be a surprise that they went and did it again."
History doesn't always repeat itself.

"You refuse to believe the government lied to us, even though they've done it before."
History doesn't always repeat itself.

"A few things that were reported to have happened on 9/11 are scientifically impossible..."
Nobody knows EXACTLY what was on that plane, there could have been explosives.

Would do the same for JustRK but I don'tt wanna waste more time.

[Cooky]

I've read all the files that have been kept secret from civilians like you. It's civilians like you who spew garbage and spread propaganda in the first place that increases the morale of the enemy.

Its 'civilians like me' who the Marines fight for

I'm not closed minded because I know almost every wrong doing, short coming and insane decision made by the government.

Well there we go, your 'I was a marine so I would have known about it' argument is now out the window. Got any other arguments?

You on the other hand have only have some belief that you can't prove and you keep saying the same thing to me.

I don't keep saying the same thing over and over, I have touched on several points; science, history, etc whereas you keep talking about how you were a Marine, you have seen your squad die, and you know everything that ever happened during your time as a Marine. Which, if you read just above, is apparently not even true.

Aside from seeing my squad die I've seen how creative these guys can get with improvised explosives. They didn't have just box cutters and they studied well.

Are you suggested they snuck explosives onto the planes? What are you talking about?

What ever gay movie you saw and article read you are blind and uneducated to underestimate someone as ambitious as the people who sought out to get revenge for what they believe was the wrong doing of the previous bush and clinton administration.

It was actually a quote from a former Marine who was a State Governor and Presidential Candidate.

There's also science with evidence supporting another theory based on the blue prints of the actual twin towers which is more accurate than what you are saying.

What I said wasnt a theory, it was science. So somehow a theory is more accurate then actual science? That doesn't make sense. And even if what you are saying isn't a theory and is in fact accurate, how can it possibly be 'more accurate' then what I said? Science is science.

I could smash you in this debate all day. The tip of your ice berg melted it seems.

I didn't make this debate to have a winner and loser. I made it to have a nice fun debate. I think you should calm down and stop taking this so seriously. Besides, after this post of mine I would say you are not 'winning' anymore (if you ever were) as you no longer have an argument.

[JustRK]

everything dumb i said

"Almost" everything meaning there is no existing documentation that delves into inter-military co-ordination that pre-dates the world war 2 era. Sure I've fought for your rights and I've fought for people who've came up to me and called me a murderer when I've done no such thing. Also what you said is in fact a theory because the person just like the person who created the theory I saw did not have all the variables in place to make their statement a solid fact. And I didn't care about winning, I just wanted to disprove your conspiracy theory about how the government / the president was in on such a tragic event.

My facts about senate and the president along with what ever you'd need elaboration on easily beats what ever "what ifs" you hold. The whole marine argument was just to solidify the fact that what I was saying was indeed true and that I didn't just say what I read off the internet, but have in fact seen it first hand. What have you seen first hand? your computer screen kthnxbai.

[Cooky]

"Almost" everything meaning there is no existing documentation that delves into inter-military co-ordination that pre-dates the world war 2 era.

This argument you keep making constantly revolves around 'documentation'. If people are going to do something illegal, they aren't going to document it. You don't have to have been a Marine to know that. Do you think Richard Nixon documented the Watergate Scandal before he did it? Did he get permission to do it? Do you think he told all the Marines about the illegal act he was going to do? No, of course not.

   

Also what you said is in fact a theory because the person just like the person who created the theory I saw did not have all the variables in place to make their statement a solid fact.

Sorry but it was a fact, it was science. Watch a video of the tower falling, record the time, do the math. It fell at near free fall speed.

And I didn't care about winning

Then why would you say 'I could crush you in this debate all day long' ? You made it clear you were trying to 'win' this debate, don't go and lie about it.

My facts about senate and the president along with what ever you'd need elaboration on easily beats what ever "what ifs" you hold.

The biggest 'fact' you have given that directly relates to the 9/11 conspiracy is that while you were a Marine you never heard anything about it. That puts you in the same boat as me, and everyone else. That is why there's are conspiracy theories about it, because no one really knows what happened. If you were truly in a position in which you would have heard every single little detail about everything the government was doing, then it depresses me that you are sitting there at your computer arguing with a janitor on a video game message board and not doing much more impressive things with your life.

What have you seen first hand? your computer screen kthnxbai.

Ah.. the old
'let me go and ignore all the points you made in your last post, give my agenda, and say bye in an attempt to get in the last word'

I thought you were better then that RK.

Also, you Sir, are underestimating the power of the internet. You can research things on the internet very well now a days. Certainly I don't know as much as a former Marine like yourself, but in a few weeks of reading I can learn quite a lot.

[Purple]

Not everything on the internet is true  .

[Cooky]

Not everything on the internet is true  .

yeah, everyone already knows this

and we are communicating on the internet right now so everything we are saying could be a lie

so kind of a pointless thing to point out

[Materger]

               In my opinion I don't see why it couldn't have been set up by our own government since I'm sure they hold many shady secrets far beyond our reach.That being said so does every other government around the world.Not knowing what happened for sure that day just leads me to think of many hypotheses, maybe it was just a terrorist attack after all, but why was our security unable to detect nineteen people( hijackers)who perhaps were concealing weapons(I think it was a bomb if I'm not mistaken) onto a plane full of US citizens.Did our national security really lack the ability to detect the 19 people who got  aboard those planes who obviously had some sort of weapon to take the aircraft over .We don't know for sure what's  true unless we take part in it ourselves, but thinking about what might have happened is interesting.

Only four planes were taken over, if our security was so easy to breach why didn't they just have a mass attacks of lets say 10 or so planes?   I just enjoy reading w/e you guys have to say in your posts. *^*

[123bomb123]

I don't believe RK is/was a Marine.

[Yz]

I don't believe RK is/was a Marine.

i don't think he would have been told about something like 9/11 if he was

cuz that's the thing, if you were really let in on everything top secret, im sure you woulda seen/heard of some heartstopping and terrible things plotted by your government.. if not 9/11 then other things.

[-Speedy-]

I believe that the US knew this was going to happen and probs had unless videos of Osama Bin Laden say he was going to do this. But i dont thing the government knew the exact day this was going to happen.

[medchiller]

Regardless of what or how you argue your opinion on the matter you will may get the answer but you will never change the result. Many people died and many more people were touched by the tragedy. Why argue over who did it or why they did it? It all brings us to the same point, innocent people died. It is in the past and we cannot change it so instead of arguing lets just make sure this won't happen again.
Edit: I know this is a debate topic but it really has evolved into an argument.

[Epic xD]

In reality, counter-terrorist expert John O'Neill discovered al-Qaeda's plans before the terrorist attacks, but the government listened to an diplomat named Barbara Bodine. She was the diplomat of Yemen, and she strongly disagreed with Neill's views. Basically, the people in power at the FBI were more concerned with politics than the lives of their own people.

There is no debate; the United States did not inflict 9/11 upon itself. However, because the government ignored the elephant in the room, 9/11 happened.

tl;dr
This debate is pointless and is almost exactly like the moon-landing debate. The United States obviously landed on the moon. The moral of the story is not to believe everything you read/listen to on the Internet.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/view/

[JustRK]

I don't believe RK is/was a Marine.

i don't think he would have been told about something like 9/11 if he was

cuz that's the thing, if you were really let in on everything top secret, im sure you woulda seen/heard of some heartstopping and terrible things plotted by your government.. if not 9/11 then other things.

(picture removed as it's been seen by enough people)

[Materger]

In reality, counter-terrorist expert John O'Neill discovered al-Qaeda's plans before the terrorist attacks, but the government listened to an diplomat named Barbara Bodine. She was the diplomat of Yemen, and she strongly disagreed with Neill's views. Basically, the people in power at the FBI were more concerned with politics than the lives of their own people.

There is no debate; the United States did not inflict 9/11 upon itself. However, because the government ignored the elephant in the room, 9/11 happened.

tl;dr
This debate is pointless and is almost exactly like the moon-landing debate. The United States obviously landed on the moon. The moral of the story is not to believe everything you read/listen to on the Internet.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/view/

Believing everything you hear or see on TV is more or less the same, nobody really knows unless they experienced it first hand. People in general are liars. I'm not too into this subject, I've always wanted to debate about religion. Sadly it's a touchy subject for some people so I wont be bringing it up anytime soon.

[Pokeh]

Set up by US to get oil from other countries.

hurr durr illuminatti 666.

it might be true but the general consensus behind it is america is full of patriotic ****s and because some bearded extremists managed to get into their country and kill a few thousand people tops, they've made this to be a huge deal since they think they're untouchable.

there has been natural disasters in america that have killed more people than 9/11. they never get ****ing talked about since there's no person to blame and take oil from when a hurricane or tsunami hits >___>

And to prove it's overhyped, you're still talking about it ~12 years after it happened as if it's as big of a deal compared to other shit thats happened to america, and the rest of the world (common overused example; blacks in poverty and children dieing of aids and hunger everyday)

also, bush was a ****ing redneck.

[Epic xD]

Believing everything you hear or see on TV is more or less the same, nobody really knows unless they experienced it first hand. People in general are liars. I'm not too into this subject, I've always wanted to debate about religion. Sadly it's a touchy subject for some people so I wont be bringing it up anytime soon.

Because Frontline isn't a credible source. I'd trust a journalist way more than a random person on the Internet.

[Pokeh]

Because Frontline isn't a credible source. I'd trust a journalist way more than a random person on the Internet.

6 news corporations own over 6000 local news stations and broadcasters, just fyi. Best bet is to go for independent journalists who work for an independent news station. like the onion :3

[Rossbach]

The US did it so they can have a tighter grip on peoples "security from terrorists." Ex: Not allowing x on plane, or to spy on you for your "safety." They basically use the 9/11 as an example and an excuse on why they go though such lengths on their "security." If the 9/11 did not happen people would be bitching and complaining even more about the things the U.S has done because of the 9/11.   

[paranoia]

George Bush tried to take Osama's oil which was the root of his financial income so he wanted to get us back.

Think about it:

They didn't hit Disneyland, or the Statue of Liberty.

I think they hit:

1. Twin Towers -

symbol of our financial strength

2. Pentagon -

symbol of our military power

[Jeffalo13]

cooky you don't know jack shit you just know random facts that could/could not be coincidence

[Cooky]

cooky you don't know jack **** you just know random facts that could/could not be coincidence

Science is not a coincidence my friend. The fact the US government ignored obvious warning signs is not a coincidence either.

[Allie]

What I said wasnt a theory, it was science.

holy shit i almost took u seriously until i saw this sentence. lol rk wins, ur dumb i cant believe u said that omg.

nice job rk. u might not be right but cooky lost.

[JustRK]

What I said wasnt a theory, it was science.

holy **** i almost took u seriously until i saw this sentence. lol rk wins, ur dumb i cant believe u said that omg.

nice job rk. u might not be right but cooky lost.

lol thanks, cooky held his ground 

[Yz]

Set up by US to get oil from other countries.

hurr durr illuminatti 666.

it might be true but the general consensus behind it is america is full of patriotic ****s and because some bearded extremists managed to get into their country and kill a few thousand people tops, they've made this to be a huge deal since they think they're untouchable.

there has been natural disasters in america that have killed more people than 9/11. they never get ****ing talked about since there's no person to blame and take oil from when a hurricane or tsunami hits >___>

And to prove it's overhyped, you're still talking about it ~12 years after it happened as if it's as big of a deal compared to other **** thats happened to america, and the rest of the world (common overused example; blacks in poverty and children dieing of aids and hunger everyday)

also, bush was a ****ing redneck.

im not like that, and way to talk **** without knowing anything just to be condescending l0l makes u look sooooOOooO smart and spiritual bro u can tell me how long ago it happened and how miniscule it was wow you are like so carefree
ps ur gay af lol

[mo9]

personal opinion based on nothing in particular , but your country likes to make a huge fuss out of nothing in general because your public thinks you're "untouchable" .
so yeah 9/11 was a huge disaster , but it was overhyped to the point of it being an excuse for doing anything they want to avoid another 9/11.
no clue whether or not they were in on it , but they sure did use the shit out of that excuse for doing w/e they want cough*iraq*cough
cooky's posts are funny.

[lugiaXDG009]

imma just pop in to say something really naive
i honestly don't believe anyone could live with the guilt of killing so many people and seeing all the mourning families of those that passed unless you are heartless.
lying i can get but i doubt that anyone could kill so many and be fine with it

[antisickness]

imma just pop in to say something really naive
i honestly don't believe anyone could live with the guilt of killing so many people and seeing all the mourning families of those that passed unless you are heartless.
lying i can get but i doubt that anyone could kill so many and be fine with it

hitler didnt mind killing 6 million and ruining their families or whats left of them

[Cooky]

What I said wasnt a theory, it was science.

holy **** i almost took u seriously until i saw this sentence. lol rk wins, ur dumb i cant believe u said that omg.

nice job rk. u might not be right but cooky lost.

I apologize for my cold and not looking at the camera

M2U00952

[Santa]

What I said wasnt a theory, it was science.

holy **** i almost took u seriously until i saw this sentence. lol rk wins, ur dumb i cant believe u said that omg.

nice job rk. u might not be right but cooky lost.

I apologize for my cold and not looking at the camera

M2U00952

too serious its funny

[Allie]

bullshit video that shouldve been typed

gravity is science, not a theory, es proven fact

ps u quoted me wrong.

[Cooky]

too serious its funny

It was serious in the sense of the message I was giving but as far as how seriously I am taking the debate, the video is deceiving in that way. I was laughing about it with people on Skype while I was making it and they encouraged me to post the video response when I lightly suggested it. Its all in good fun.

bull**** video that shouldve been typed

gravity is science, not a theory, es proven fact

ps u quoted me wrong.

Exactly.. that's why I said it wasn't a theory, its science.  I was only talking about that in particular, not my entire argument.

[Pokeh]

Set up by US to get oil from other countries.

hurr durr illuminatti 666.

it might be true but the general consensus behind it is america is full of patriotic ****s and because some bearded extremists managed to get into their country and kill a few thousand people tops, they've made this to be a huge deal since they think they're untouchable.

there has been natural disasters in america that have killed more people than 9/11. they never get ****ing talked about since there's no person to blame and take oil from when a hurricane or tsunami hits >___>

And to prove it's overhyped, you're still talking about it ~12 years after it happened as if it's as big of a deal compared to other **** thats happened to america, and the rest of the world (common overused example; blacks in poverty and children dieing of aids and hunger everyday)

also, bush was a ****ing redneck.

im not like that, and way to talk **** without knowing anything just to be condescending l0l makes u look sooooOOooO smart and spiritual bro u can tell me how long ago it happened and how miniscule it was wow you are like so carefree
ps ur gay af lol

wasn't even targeting you individually just proving a point.

nice rebound statement really scientific xd

[Allie]

Exactly.. that's why I said it wasn't a theory, its science.  I was only talking about that in particular, not my entire argument.

science is a theory. theories are science. theories are theories. all science is a theory. your science on the destruction of the towers is a theory. you are a theory.

[MagicXR]

Exactly.. that's why I said it wasn't a theory, its science.  I was only talking about that in particular, not my entire argument.

science is a theory. theories are science. theories are theories. all science is a theory. your science on the destruction of the towers is a theory. you are a theory.

Just like the big bang THEORY and the THEORY of evolution. WOOOO science

[lugiaXDG009]

Exactly.. that's why I said it wasn't a theory, its science.  I was only talking about that in particular, not my entire argument.

science is a theory. theories are science. theories are theories. all science is a theory. your science on the destruction of the towers is a theory. you are a theory.

so does that mean we're all theories allie or just cooky

[JustRK]

Exactly.. that's why I said it wasn't a theory, its science.  I was only talking about that in particular, not my entire argument.

science is a theory. theories are science. theories are theories. all science is a theory. your science on the destruction of the towers is a theory. you are a theory.

not going to delve into debating again, but just as allie stated what you said can only be a theory in the sense that final analysis of the towers were conducted through watching them fall on a 2 dimensional television screen. You would need to have been there while the towers were actually falling to grasp every single variable (ie wind speed, drag coefficient,  angle of impact, etc) to properly dictate what you would consider solid "science" and what not.  So to say that your statement was indeed "science" and not a theory is ludacris when they are one in the same.

[Cooky]

I'm locking this, I am tired of debating it any more

I don't really feel like adding anything else

[Santa]

just wanted to say, i was here last!!

[Toast]

just wanted to say, i was here last!!

..no.

[Santa]

hacker, this is my thread!