BoutCheetah

So it may or may not be well hidden (I've given a ton of clues and even flat out mentioned) that our next update is coming.
And it is big. I am here to prepare you all for the new update.

We have been spending the last couple months studying our new engine and our new capabilities. We have been using these capabilities to make game changing updates that will be live in just a few days (discussed lower in the thread). You guys have shown me your potential, and I noticed your interest in the raid maps. You guys came together as a community with multiple grinding groups for Hackenn Ruins.

We am pleased to say that within the next few days, two new 8p raid maps will be released. These two raid maps are incredibly difficult, and will require a very coordinated group of well geared players to complete (note that this patch will buff Hackenn Ruins to remove grindability). With this, the 1p of Hackenn Ruins will be removed, but replaced with a new solo fight that will definitely challenge your potential! While it has no rewards, it is possibly the biggest breakthrough of a fight we have discovered, and we can't wait to see you guys complete it (if you can get anywhere near its completion). Details on this fight will be revealed on patch day.

To commemorate these new raid maps, we will be increasing the level cap to a large 270 for members, 225 for non-members! This will allow all non-members the chance to access the first tier of raid, along with all the current content for all members. Meanwhile, members get to go for the near-impossible challenge of the 113M 270 cap!

In addition to these raid maps, we am tweaking the gearing scale. While it will be the same challenge to get to Elektra+7/T3, getting gear above Elektra will require running the three raids - Hackenn Ruins (221), X (235), X (250) (hidden for spoiler). The items received from this mode are untradeable, and only one box will drop per map. However, this raid gear is far superior to your standard T3 overload -- while it doesn't give the 40% XP bonus, the 250 raid gear will increase your power by (up to) 4! Worry not though, because in PvP scenarios this gear will cap down to prevent overpowered raiders.


But a major discussion I am here to talk to you about is simple, where do we go from here?
The patch is but days away, with only ends to tie up. This is a big step towards my vision for this game, but I'm not making it alone. Seven different people took part in this update over the last month, from mods to raid design. But seven people do not speak for the entire community. This big change will require a lot of big feedback. After this patch, we will be closely monitoring your feedback, and we want all of you to give as much as you can.


And, as a poll, we are (were) currently debating in staff what to do after this next patch. Updating as is, all you members will have the option to grind as much as you can, but the highest sector will remain at 239 (Jura's Requiem). After this patch, we offer you two options, and I'd like the community to voice its opinion. Both options are viable, and one or the other will be released in the next patch (likely with some other stuff added).

First, we could add four new sector maps. Specifically, level 231 (Kyura's Requiem), level 258 (Gora's Requiem), level 264 (Ryura's Requiem), and level 276 (Zeon's Requiem). These sectors will give experience following the pattern I set out for the rest of the levels. It is important to mention that raids will no longer give a significant amount of xp reward. These will follow suit similar to how Jura's Requiem was, however the difficulty will be toned down significantly (due to raid mode declared as the game's primary challenging content).

Alternatively, we offer you a base update. This update will consist of a new rankings system for PvP and BvB, merc and mob rebalancing, aswell as a couple new maps with the ability to have multiple bases each! That's right, your team will each have more than 1 base, and your goal is to kill all of your opponents bases, rather than one. Following this path will shift focus off sector for awhile, allowing adequate leveling time.

We await your feedback! Please let us know where you'd like to see this game in a few months!

I would focus on the sector part first. If theres gonna be a lvl 270 cap, we need more sector levels in between 239 and 270.

That base update sounds really great, cant wait for that! Glad to see the game is going to continuously be updated. Does this mean the whole factions update is no longer in development? Has it been cancelled?

Quote from: Cooky on September 03, 2013, 07:36:43 AM
Why not both? Do one and then start working on the other. Those are both fantastic ideas and I would hate to see one get thrown away just because another got more support.

The next patch is free game. The patch after will be shifted (most likely) to a largescale sector revamp. We simply do not have an infinite amount of time or the amount of workers a professional company has to work on multiple projects at once.

Allie I already deleted that post and posted something else


Anyway,

I am really concerned at how overpowered bots are going to be with this new gear, especially surges. They are just going to be too fast and have too much evade.

What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks Allie and the others whom contributed to this update i am sure it will good for Boutcheetah and the many players :)

Right away it feels like you're moving away from challenging content for people that play alone, which annoys me a bit.

Also trying to force these maps that (supposedly) require a lot of coordination doesn't seem like it's gonna work. With such a mechanically basic game I don't see why people would ever need to be on a chat program like Skype to complete anything within the game.

If you didn't mean it would require coordination to the degree of needing a chat program then it probably won't require any coordination at all, besides a bit of pre-game talk within the lobby.
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As for the level extension, I wonder just how long you can keep extending the levels before you have to reset it / people get annoyed and start to quit.

Interesting to see how things go with the update though, may just come on and check it out.

Quote from: Cooky on September 03, 2013, 07:46:49 AM
Allie I already deleted that post and posted something else


Anyway,

I am really concerned at how overpowered bots are going to be with this new gear, especially surges. They are just going to be too fast and have too much evade.

What are your thoughts on this?

All secondary stats are exactly as they are on T3. The only things buffed at hp, att and atttrans.

Quote from: Purple on September 03, 2013, 07:49:00 AM
Right away it feels like you're removing all challenging content for people that play alone, which annoys me a bit.

I'm feeling you there. However, I am adding some (albeit unrewarding) solo content that is challenging. If I make solo content that is rewarding, it will reward primarily hackers and hackers alone. Unfortunately, thus the case with such a game as this.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AMThese two raid maps are incredibly difficult, and will require a very coordinated group of well geared players to complete

We have heard that before. 1p and 8p were both pretty much 'solved' within a week and we have had people solo 8p and lvl 1's completing 1p. Whys it going to be different this time? As purple said, the game has such basic mechanics.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:50:50 AM
All secondary stats are exactly as they are on T3. The only things buffed at hp, att and atttrans.

That's great news.


All this talk about 'unrewarding' challenges is making me confused. Why would anyone play them?

Quote from: Cooky on September 03, 2013, 07:53:32 AM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AMThese two raid maps are incredibly difficult, and will require a very coordinated group of well geared players to complete

We have heard that before. 1p and 8p were both pretty much 'solved' within a week and we have had people solo 8p and lvl 1's completing 1p. Whys it going to be different this time? As purple said, the game has such basic mechanics.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:50:50 AM
All secondary stats are exactly as they are on T3. The only things buffed at hp, att and atttrans.

That's great news.


All this talk about 'unrewarding' challenges is making me confused. Why would anyone play them?

People would play them for challenging content. I expect ross and some others like him to attempt it at the very least. I don't expect anyone of them to win though.

And I added complex mechanics. The game itself is simple, but with a bit of a push, it can be made..less..simple.
Also, I made some mobs not able to be pushed, period. This means in Hackenn Ruins, Xabaras will need to be killed (along with the other main mobs). Along with this, and a possible (still debating in administration) nerf or removal to leech, Hackenn Ruins will be working as intended (hopefully).

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:57:19 AM
People would play them for challenging content. I expect ross and some others like him to attempt it at the very least. I don't expect anyone of them to win though.

I would suggest making it so completion of this level shows up in everyones chat, and completing 1p and 8p no longer does. Because pretty much everyone hates it.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:57:19 AM
And I added complex mechanics. The game itself is simple, but with a bit of a push, it can be made..less..simple.
Also, I made some mobs not able to be pushed, period. This means in Hackenn Ruins, Xabaras will need to be killed (along with the other main mobs). Along with this, and a possible (still debating in administration) nerf or removal to leech, Hackenn Ruins will be working as intended (hopefully).

Good stuff.

Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions.

This sounds like something really big and amazing with all those new maps, more raids for the users that are up for the 8p teamwork and new gear (which i guess is going to be made by meteor  ::)) that could replace the ugly elektra.
Also new god levels (for sector) is something that sounds really cool.

The only problem i have in this whole patch is the level extension, i felt like 221 was to high already, not the exp but the level. 221 just looks like a way to big number to reach. increasing it to 270 just isn't going to work. What i would've done was increasing the exp required to level up instead of making those higher levels. it might take a longer time to level up, it gives you a better feeling to reach a high level because you worked for it. imo levels 1-200 won't mean anything after this patch it will just be like lvl 1-172 now which isn't really something you have to work for (a max for 2 weeks to get?). In bots you had to spent atleast 3 months to reach the max level, it took me 1 year to reach max lvl in bots and even tho it took so long it was fun to reach because there was a challenge which i am missing in boutcheetah.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:57:19 AM

Quote from: Cooky on September 03, 2013, 07:53:32 AM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AMThese two raid maps are incredibly difficult, and will require a very coordinated group of well geared players to complete

We have heard that before. 1p and 8p were both pretty much 'solved' within a week and we have had people solo 8p and lvl 1's completing 1p. Whys it going to be different this time? As purple said, the game has such basic mechanics.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:50:50 AM
All secondary stats are exactly as they are on T3. The only things buffed at hp, att and atttrans.

That's great news.


All this talk about 'unrewarding' challenges is making me confused. Why would anyone play them?

People would play them for challenging content. I expect ross and some others like him to attempt it at the very least. I don't expect anyone of them to win though.

And I added complex mechanics. The game itself is simple, but with a bit of a push, it can be made..less..simple.
Also, I made some mobs not able to be pushed, period. This means in Hackenn Ruins, Xabaras will need to be killed (along with the other main mobs). Along with this, and a possible (still debating in administration) nerf or removal to leech, Hackenn Ruins will be working as intended (hopefully).

I like the idea we need to kill Xab , but how is the gear going to lookk like and since their wil only drop 1 box each round makes the gear super rare ;o ! Allie i think this is a great update..

thats my pvp bvb rank system idea rite ther! boy they grow up so fast  :'(

Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on September 03, 2013, 08:06:27 AM
What i would've done was increasing the exp required to level up instead of making those higher levels. it might take a longer time to level up, it gives you a better feeling to reach a high level because you worked for it. imo levels 1-200 won't mean anything after this patch it will just be like lvl 1-172 now which isn't really something you have to work for (a max for 2 weeks to get?).

I think one of the big points of this update was to give people who are max level something higher to shoot for. Increasing the experience needed for 221 isn't going to affect all the people who are already lvl 221, and it would have been a pointless update for them.

Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on September 03, 2013, 08:06:27 AM
In bots you had to spent atleast 3 months to reach the max level, it took me 1 year to reach max lvl in bots and even tho it took so long it was fun to reach because there was a challenge which i am missing in boutcheetah.

Well this update is going to make it very very hard to reach max level

True , 113 Mil xp ... Its great i got almost 80 mil exp . But howmutch xp do we wil get from the new map since we need so mutch xp?
Wil their be an xp update to level up faster ? Is it going to stay the same ?

I think the Exp system should be Non-Linear and the higher the level that we initially are when we complete a map the higher exp will be given at the Finish

Quote from: loewe98 on September 03, 2013, 08:14:49 AM


True , 113 Mil xp ... Its great i got almost 80 mil exp . But howmutch xp do we wil get from the new map since we need so mutch xp?
Wil their be an xp update to level up faster ? Is it going to stay the same ?

It'll be the exact same, essentially. With the sector update proposed, 276 (Zeon's Requiem) is planned to give about half the xp as 8p currently does.

How many more updates will it be before Race mode makes its return? and if its not in your plans.. what will it take to put it into your plans? money? pics? rap video?

This all sounds super great. I can't wait to see it all in effect. From the new lv cap to the new sector raid maps,  I'm pumped up. For that idea of four new sector maps, would the bosses be the same color as those gods or possibly be those gods in trans mode? I think that would be neat to see Kyura, Gora's, Ryura, and Zeon back in the game.

It would be a shame to see only one of those two ideas pull through since both ideas are great. The bvb/pvp rankings needs a new system badly so many people high in the rankings leeched their wins and it's kinda lame for the people who do try to get higher in the ranks. I do however understand their isn't enough people to work on both those ideas.

the whole challenge part seems well structured and all, but i think you are completely ignoring the fun part of the game. maybe ross and twenty other skilled sectorers/players will try and enjoy the super-complex maps, as much as (more) i heavy grinders will enjoy raching 130m exp for the level cap

but what about all the other players?
i, for example, stopped playing also because bc became endless grinding over and over the same map with the same methods. it can be fun at first but if theres little less cohesion between players or after some time it can become boring and old.

i was just thinking, if there was a game mode where the point isn't to mainly kill mobs over and over it would add some fresh gameplay.
for example a race mode (buffed and developed so it's more challenging and less plain than what you can actually do in the game atm).

also difficulty doesnt only come from mobs, but also from environment (like some pvp maps), it would be nice to have new (or partly atleast) maps in that way

if one update only had to take place the sector one seems the best since sector is the most played mode. but if the pvp/bvb update would be effective enough to refresh and make those modes more popular i think it would be very preferred

Quote from: Iridion on September 03, 2013, 08:30:19 AM
also difficulty doesnt only come from mobs, but also from environment (like some pvp maps), it would be nice to have new (or partly atleast) maps in that way

Believe it or not, we have thought of this! There is an entire boss fight in BOTH 235 and 250 primarily focused on defeating the environment.

Quote from: Iridion on September 03, 2013, 08:30:19 AM
i was just thinking, if there was a game mode where the point isn't to mainly kill mobs over and over it would add some fresh gameplay.
for example a race mode

Yeah!!!

Nice updates,nice to see what base is going to be updated and what level cap will be increased,btw the new sector maps will be remodeled?Or they will be like 1p/8p just a map in which was added more mobs?

I really love the next update ;D
I love ALL the stuff what will be there ::)
The best ones is with Kyura, Gora, Ryura, Zeon Requiems or something


Do your best staff
Best of luck
All the best

awesome update imma play again if this update ever occurs

Omg... This is all so amazing. The level cap is a nice idea will get people playing a bit more. The new raid maps are going to be awesome!!! I like that you're making them harder and adding new armor it's really making me want to play it right now!
As for the Base or sector update. I really would like to see what the new maps would look like but tbh the base community has been down for a long time and I think it would be cool if more (myself included) would start playing. From what you described I might start playing Base and it would great for the the basers that currently play. So I would have to go with the Base/PvP update. Amazing work you guys keep it up!!! :D

It sounds cool :P

but need alot of exp.. how much exp will all 8p maps give?

if someone wonder what lvl they are after the patch:
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=17151.0

So excited about this. Great things to look forward to.  New raid maps, higher level cap, new gear, more base activity or more sector levels. Can't wait till this is released.

Thanks for all your hard work and dedication guys  :-*

Quote from: Cooky on September 03, 2013, 07:38:32 AM
Does this mean the whole factions update is no longer in development? Has it been cancelled?

Did you miss this question Allie? I'm sure people are really curious about the answer

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Quote from: Cooky on September 03, 2013, 07:38:32 AM
Does this mean the whole factions update is no longer in development? Has it been cancelled?

Did you miss this question Allie? I'm sure people are really curious about the answer

Yes, its still happening.

I really don't like this =/

Whats happening about what is this topic? the text is to long to read  ::)

Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 03, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
I really don't like this =/

obligatory 'why is that?' 

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I really don't like this =/

obligatory 'why is that?'  

I just think -Surges, extremely high speed -Patches, 0's from anything transed and doing extremely high damage to anything transed, and as you said (in your rap ::))-Rams, stay transed for an hour with high damage. I just think it's too much

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Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 03, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
I really don't like this =/

obligatory 'why is that?' 

I just think Surges, extremely high speed Patches, 0's from anything transed and doing extremely high damage to anything transed, and as you said (in your rap ::))Rams, stay transed for an hour with high damage. I just think it's too much

What makes you think that? Allie already said the new armor will have same stats as T3 just with higher HP, +atk and +transed atk

Finally got a reason to grind. Really looking forward to this update with all the new maps and stuff.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
base update

vote to this

But I don't understand it what is becoming new to bc i know about the new skin update but are there gonna be new maps? new levels?

Quote from: ReturneD on September 03, 2013, 03:00:32 PM
But I don't understand it what is becoming new to bc i know about the new skin update but are there gonna be new maps? new levels?

max lv members 270 non mems 225 new raid maps n armor then new sector maps or base update

Nice but if this mean the levels can go higher than there need to be new sets to ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: ReturneD on September 03, 2013, 03:09:37 PM
Nice but if this mean the levels can go higher than there need to be new sets to ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

yes there will be new armor

Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 03, 2013, 02:54:30 PM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
base update

vote to this

I vote base too.
Btw, will new events be able to explore any of those new mechanics that are going to be implemented?

Thanks for the hard work u staff had!

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Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
base update

vote to this

and one from pig

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Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
base update

vote to this

and one from pig

and from me.

+1 for base

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Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
base update

vote to this

and one from pig

and from me.

yah

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Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
base update

vote to this

and one from pig

and from me.

yah

count me in

bvb needs most development

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
What about the people who barely have time to grind as it is right now? People said it took months or even 1 year to get 100 in bots, no one wants to spend that time endlessly grinding (like iri said). Not to mention everyones alt accounts will be useless because they are 172 and so its impossible to have more than 1 (good) bot type per person. And TCs are way to overpriced. Why not make the level cap 255 for members and something else for non members?

The days when I could grind for hours and no life it are gone for me and for a lot of other as well probably. Hell I can't even do an all nighter on xbox/play station.

Only the top 5 players on the rankings have kind of a close amount of exp to 113m. even going from 90m to 113mil is a lot of exp to get imagine the majority of people including many koreans who have 13m exp. I always thought if the levels were going to change it would be to lower them not increase them.

Also +1 to bvb and/or pvp update.

We don't expect people to no life however if you want to then go ahead, no one is stopping you. Having such a high level cap gives players more competition, experience different maps and once you reach that level you will feel excitement.

Just take your time levelling up and have fun!

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM

Alternatively, we offer you a base update. This update will consist of a new rankings system for PvP and BvB, merc and mob rebalancing, aswell as a couple new maps with the ability to have multiple bases each! That's right, your team will each have more than 1 base, and your goal is to kill all of your opponents bases, rather than one. Following this path will shift focus off sector for awhile, allowing adequate leveling time.

Need bigger base maps for that, also if people don't want to keep playing Industrobe all the time, need to figure out how to alter maps (like adding holes and walls to the other maps).

Industrobe is the only real big map, but giving it another base to defend is just weird. If you can make base maps bigger and add more variety to the other maps then surrre but how are you going to do that?

Quote from: Corr on September 03, 2013, 05:20:22 PM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM

Alternatively, we offer you a base update. This update will consist of a new rankings system for PvP and BvB, merc and mob rebalancing, aswell as a couple new maps with the ability to have multiple bases each! That's right, your team will each have more than 1 base, and your goal is to kill all of your opponents bases, rather than one. Following this path will shift focus off sector for awhile, allowing adequate leveling time.

Need bigger base maps for that, also if people don't want to keep playing Industrobe all the time, need to figure out how to alter maps (like adding holes and walls to the other maps).

Industrobe is the only real big map, but giving it another base to defend is just weird. If you can make base maps bigger and add more variety to the other maps then surrre but how are you going to do that?

maybe she knows what she is doing

Quote from: Corr on September 03, 2013, 05:20:22 PM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM

Alternatively, we offer you a base update. This update will consist of a new rankings system for PvP and BvB, merc and mob rebalancing, aswell as a couple new maps with the ability to have multiple bases each! That's right, your team will each have more than 1 base, and your goal is to kill all of your opponents bases, rather than one. Following this path will shift focus off sector for awhile, allowing adequate leveling time.

Need bigger base maps for that, also if people don't want to keep playing Industrobe all the time, need to figure out how to alter maps (like adding holes and walls to the other maps).

Industrobe is the only real big map, but giving it another base to defend is just weird. If you can make base maps bigger and add more variety to the other maps then surrre but how are you going to do that?

And remove the walls that block mercs like on Plains D:<

Will enjoy being able to level up more.
Won't be trying to complete raid map first I'm not fussed anymore,go for it ross/whoever else,htc left again I think lul.

New content.
Cool.
Cool.

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Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 03, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
I really don't like this =/

obligatory 'why is that?' 

I just think Surges, extremely high speed Patches, 0's from anything transed and doing extremely high damage to anything transed, and as you said (in your rap ::))Rams, stay transed for an hour with high damage. I just think it's too much

What makes you think that? Allie already said the new armor will have same stats as T3 just with higher HP, +atk and +transed atk

i think he means all three bot types are saturated. you can have a bot type with almost full capacities from another, killing the differences between them and possible developments from said differences

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 03, 2013, 01:08:45 PM
It sounds cool :P

but need alot of exp.. how much exp will all 8p maps give?

if someone wonder what lvl they are after the patch:
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=17151.0

232 .-.

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
concern over reaching max level

Fortunately (or unfortunately, perhaps), we have thought of this! To enjoy all the content in the game, you really only have to reach level 250. Reaching 270 is for time and bragging rights as of this patch. There is no content designed after 250, which gives 27 people (I'm expecting this to increase fast) the (theoretical) immediate ability to enjoy all the new content.

Thus why we offer you guys the option, sector or base. If we do base, we offer people the option to enjoy the game before adding new content beyond 250. However, leveling will thus be harder, as there's nothing above 239.

Quote from: Corr on September 03, 2013, 05:20:22 PM
base concerns

This is what t-bot is for. For this update, we would (hope to) enlist a few members in (voluntary) confidential design in the new base maps and rework. It'll easily be the harder choice of the two, and will take more time and people, but it is an option we are offering you, the community.

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 03, 2013, 01:08:45 PM
but need alot of exp.. how much exp will all 8p maps give?

Raid maps are not designed to be grinded for xp/gigas/coins/gp. It won't be very rewarding in these aspects.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 08:18:42 AM

Quote from: loewe98 on September 03, 2013, 08:14:49 AM


True , 113 Mil xp ... Its great i got almost 80 mil exp . But howmutch xp do we wil get from the new map since we need so mutch xp?
Wil their be an xp update to level up faster ? Is it going to stay the same ?

It'll be the exact same, essentially. With the sector update proposed, 276 (Zeon's Requiem) is planned to give about half the xp as 8p currently does.

What about 172? They will become 250 or?
Or my eyes are blind  ;D

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Quote from: loewe98 on September 03, 2013, 08:14:49 AM


True , 113 Mil xp ... Its great i got almost 80 mil exp . But howmutch xp do we wil get from the new map since we need so mutch xp?
Wil their be an xp update to level up faster ? Is it going to stay the same ?

It'll be the exact same, essentially. With the sector update proposed, 276 (Zeon's Requiem) is planned to give about half the xp as 8p currently does.

What about 172? They will become 250 or?
Or my eyes are blind  ;D

172 non-members will go up just the same as members. As the new cap is currently 172, all non-members will go up to a cap of 225, found out the same way 270 is. That means all non-members will have the option of playing all current content and obtaining survival T3/elektra+7 just the same as members, putting them on par in pvp. However, they only have access to the first tier of raiding, which is significantly stronger than T3/elektra+7 anyway, but is not nearly as powerful as higher sets.

Definitely not getting max level again. Nice job on the update, can't wait to fail miserably on all the new maps.

Woo I can stop paying for membership now.

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
And TCs are way to overpriced.

This was actually something I was thinking about. TC's cost a bit, if you previously wanted to change bot types frequently you would just have 3 accounts get them all to 172. This however wouldn't work as well in the new update. It would be like leveling past 221 but without the additional x2 XP that members get. Although wouldn't be impossible it might not be in the interest of all people. Tbh I love that it will be like this, it gives me more stuff to do get all my accounts to the level caps.

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 06:02:22 PM
Why such a big leap? Going from 172 to 255 is huge. from 221 to 270 is huge as well.

It's 172 to 225, thats 53 levels. 221 to 270 is 49 levels. It's a bit huge, yes, but that just means opening the availability of even more content, and giving players something to strive for again.

would merc even be smart enough to move from one base to another

Quote from: zomniethe4 on September 03, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
would merc even be smart enough to move from one base to another

Not sure. But it's a project to be pursued, is it not?

I'd say the base update comes in. Bvb has been getting a sort of a revival (?) recently, this would only further people's interest in it.

Idk about u Guys but i feel this updates are great! dont see anything wrong at this Patch, not even a thing!

I Would like to help in anything that need helping :P
Waiting for the update!! :D :D :D

o right the poll
its sector maps or base?
ya base plz

Because of the capability's of the new engine like the higher level 270 rather than 255 would the exp cap be unlocked from the 65000 odd as it currently stands ??? 

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 06:41:15 PM

Quote from: zomniethe4 on September 03, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
would merc even be smart enough to move from one base to another

Not sure. But it's a project to be pursued, is it not?

ya
does the update mean no more ryura

Quote from: zomniethe4 on September 03, 2013, 07:23:35 PM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 06:41:15 PM

Quote from: zomniethe4 on September 03, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
would merc even be smart enough to move from one base to another

Not sure. But it's a project to be pursued, is it not?

ya
does the update mean no more ryura

no it doesn't. there's a Jura's Requiem and Jura still exists.

+1 for base even tho i don't play it, but i might now :D
also im gonna have to get back to playing bc

For the new requiems, can you make the boss like the trans of the god?

Eg: Jura is gonna be a death hunter with the same skin
Kyura is gonna be a red team
Gora is gonna be a lady valor
Ryura is gonna be a liger
and Zeon is gonna be a digi, maybe even re-mod the gods to make them look better?

Don't make merc ai's so they can get around walls

                                                                                             -Pig

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 08:29:42 PM
Also when will survival exp rates be back to normal? And compared to tier 3 219, how hard will the new armor for members be to get?

Probably in the update and likely difficult

Are you guys ever gonna put god challenges up again? :o

I love the new update that's coming up, but are you guys currently working on any events? Idk about others, but I love events o_O

tbh i hate the lvl 270 bs like are u kidding me? going up 49 lvls with 97m to gain from 221 to 270? thats stupid idc if its suppose to be a challenge its unfair and max lvl should be 250 at the most, maybe 260. but 270 is just to much. Now your taking away patches from being able to grind 8p which will be EVEN HARDER TO GET XP! so its just unfair i hate the whole idea.


~From Speedy/Rcr

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 03, 2013, 09:49:01 PM
tbh i hate the lvl 270 bs like are u kidding me? going up 49 lvls with 97m to gain from 221 to 270? thats stupid idc if its suppose to be a challenge its unfair and max lvl should be 250 at the most, maybe 260. but 270 is just to much. Now your taking away patches from being able to grind 8p which will be EVEN HARDER TO GET XP! so its just unfair i hate the whole idea.


~From Speedy/Rcr

Speedy,  I think the reason you don't like this is you don't want to grind more and have to gain levels to be able to grind faster. I know the update seems harsh but tbh it gets kinda boring not being able to level. The other thing is you'll already be the max level needed to get the new armor and level so you really don't have to grind more than you want. The level 270 is basically for bragging rights as Allie said.
Although this is your opinion I don't agree with it. Just my opinion.

I think adding all these levels is a bit steep. I also think that the new non-member level cap should be lower than the current member level cap. I vote for base updates in the poll, and #bringbackpurpletext

It would be awesome with some new lvl's. Also the new cap lvl is great, gives you a challenge and challenges are allways fun In my opinion. Can't wait for it to happen!

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 03, 2013, 07:55:03 AM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
To commemorate these new raid maps, I will be increasing the level cap to a large 270 for members, 225 for non-members! This will allow all non-members the chance to access the first tier of raid, along with all the current content for all members. Meanwhile, members get to go for the near-impossible challenge of the 113M 270 cap!

Time to grind.

A couple of questions...

1) Is the old base mode still available?

2) Did you follow MY suggestions to balance mercs, or is my knowledge not good enough for you?

more raid mapsp n items ok thanks +1 base if you can really change up the maps

Quote from: Epic xD on September 03, 2013, 11:08:55 PM
is my knowledge not good enough for you?

sass

How is it sass if the supposedly great "balancing" miserably failed before? .-.

i just dont see why your knowledge is important to allie, i myself can see how it would help but she kept saying she doesn'[t care and shit unless she changed her mind then you'd probly be called upon, til then it's just kinda you saying you can help in sassy way (8

idk

do sector tho

Old update: 200 - 221 4m xp need to become new max level
New update: 221 - 270 100m+ xp to become max lvl. where is this logic coming from allie?

Quote from: Epic xD on September 03, 2013, 11:08:55 PM
A couple of questions...

1) Is the old base mode still available?

2) Did you follow MY suggestions to balance mercs, or is my knowledge not good enough for you?

Our, dude. Lol.

Quote from: Experiences on September 03, 2013, 10:28:56 PM
It would be awesome with some new lvl's. Also the new cap lvl is great, gives you a challenge and challenges are allways fun In my opinion. Can't wait for it to happen!

You still haven't skyped me for those lessons.

Just lettin you know.

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 10:05:19 PM
I think max level should also be 250/255 and arrange the new sector levels according to this. I also think that you should add more levels gradually. So once a majority of the players have gotten to 255, you can release another 5 levels or so. Just so you don't overwhelm everyone with so many levels. And non members should (right now) only be able to get level 200 or 221.

Again going back to what I said previously about Trans Coupons. Bring them back and make them cheap so many can buy them again. It is a good idea especially if you want to make the levels up to 270. Being able to change bot types is not something bad and you shouldn't have to stick with one bot type (which is how it is now because whenever someones buys a trans coupon or gets one they don't use it they just sell it because otherwise it is a waste of 40m).

Yes in BOTS!! Trans coupons were harder to obtain but so was everything in that game. BC is the new and improved version where you don't need to pour money into the game in order to obtain things (even though you can).  Also since there are pretty much going to be no useful Alt accounts, trans coupons will be needed and it makes the game more fun.

Couldn't agree more and no med im saying lvl 260 id only be 253 according to the think so yes id still grind but its just so overwhelming as nanak said. i dont feel new players shouyld have to come and try to become max lvl when achieving that is almost impossible. 260 is a thumbs up 270 thumbs down.

funny only 3 people will be max lvl.

Quote from: -Speedy- on September 03, 2013, 11:45:36 PM
Old update: 200 - 221 4m xp need to become new max level
New update: 221 - 270 100m+ xp to become max lvl. where is this logic coming from allie?

Quote from: orsaky on September 03, 2013, 11:48:01 PM

Quote from: -Speedy- on September 03, 2013, 11:45:36 PM
Old update: 200 - 221 4m xp need to become new max level
New update: 221 - 270 100m+ xp to become max lvl. where is this logic coming from allie?

Logic: lets make 17482922m exp to max level so nobody gets it and gives up.

In light of player feedback, I will be drastically increasing the xp gain from all maps above 200. The cap of 65535 may also be removed if possible (it will be our goal to remove it for this patch).

Thank you for the feedback, and we hope this helps those of you with less time on your hands still reach level cap.

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 12:25:44 AM
In light of player feedback, I will be drastically increasing the xp gain from all maps above 200. The cap of 65535 may also be removed if possible (it will be our goal to remove it for this patch).

Thank you for the feedback, and we hope this helps those of you with less time on your hands still reach level cap.

1m exp every 8p game (plz)

Quote from: FallenShadow on September 04, 2013, 12:30:01 AM

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 12:25:44 AM
In light of player feedback, I will be drastically increasing the xp gain from all maps above 200. The cap of 65535 may also be removed if possible (it will be our goal to remove it for this patch).

Thank you for the feedback, and we hope this helps those of you with less time on your hands still reach level cap.

1m exp every 8p game (plz)

she said 8p gonna be nerfed because raids arent meant to give exp

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 04, 2013, 01:14:55 AM

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 12:25:44 AM
In light of player feedback, I will be drastically increasing the xp gain from all maps above 200. The cap of 65535 may also be removed if possible (it will be our goal to remove it for this patch).

Thank you for the feedback, and we hope this helps those of you with less time on your hands still reach level cap.

Good. Thank you for listening. Also I think that you should take some advice on the Base matter from the experienced base players or head what they have to say. All they do is base/have done so they are probably knowledgeable on the subject (this doesn't mean I like them j/s it would be a good idea).

Also what Allie said makes me a bit more excited for the update now. Unless it doesn't make a difference.

I made sure to mention in my post that if base is chosen by the community, I will reach out to the base players to voluntarily help in the base update.

Quote from: qolderman on September 03, 2013, 05:28:18 PM
And remove the walls that block mercs like on Plains D:<

No, do not follow this idea. That's an awful idea.

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 04, 2013, 02:25:51 AM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 11:45:36 PM
Oh okay sorry I didn't see. But one other thing. Will you increase exp gain on low server? Because you said its near impossible to get lv 270 so it will be impossible (even for Matic) to get 270 on low. So maybe increase exp gain and have 2x on weekend?

yes pleaseeee

Quoteaswell as a couple new maps with the ability to have multiple bases each! That's right, your team will each have more than 1 base, and your goal is to kill all of your opponents bases, rather than one.

since we will be having more than 1 base, Could you add 1 more merc option?
Would Really help.
And it will be really awesome if we could make 5v5 on Base/PvP.



CharmZ :P

+1 for sector , because we need more lvls with more exp :) to get lvl 270 ;]


will t3 sets be tradeable, in this case members can sell their sets to other people when we get the new set :P
and will the new gear/set be tradeable? :/

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 04, 2013, 05:33:16 AM
+1 for sector , because we need more lvls with more exp :) to get lvl 270 ;]


will t3 sets be tradeable, in this case members can sell their sets to other people when we get the new set :P
and will the new gear/set be tradeable? :/

pretty sure the first post says the new gear wont be tradeable

Quote from: Yz on September 04, 2013, 12:40:57 AM

Quote from: FallenShadow on September 04, 2013, 12:30:01 AM

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 12:25:44 AM
In light of player feedback, I will be drastically increasing the xp gain from all maps above 200. The cap of 65535 may also be removed if possible (it will be our goal to remove it for this patch).

Thank you for the feedback, and we hope this helps those of you with less time on your hands still reach level cap.

1m exp every 8p game (plz)

she said 8p gonna be nerfed because raids arent meant to give exp

Ffs why did they give on the current raid maps?

Will the new t3 armor looks different from current?And the new maps will be remodeled or it will be just a map on which will be just added more mobs like 1p/8p was?

Quote from: FallenShadow on September 04, 2013, 10:12:33 AM

Quote from: Yz on September 04, 2013, 12:40:57 AM

Quote from: FallenShadow on September 04, 2013, 12:30:01 AM

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 12:25:44 AM
In light of player feedback, I will be drastically increasing the xp gain from all maps above 200. The cap of 65535 may also be removed if possible (it will be our goal to remove it for this patch).

Thank you for the feedback, and we hope this helps those of you with less time on your hands still reach level cap.

1m exp every 8p game (plz)

she said 8p gonna be nerfed because raids arent meant to give exp

Ffs why did they give on the current raid maps?

I think it was a try out, cause they r giving out New raid maps.
I am against removing exp for raid maps, cause we need alot more exp to get 270, and i don't wanna use 30yrs xD

LEVELING UP IS SUPPOSE TO TAKE TIME GUYS, SHEESH.  >:(

Quote from: Bombz on September 04, 2013, 01:30:20 PM
LEVELING UP IS SUPPOSE TO TAKE TIME GUYS, SHEESH.  >:(

Yeah i know, but when 8p/1p raid came, they could have it a bitlonger so we have more uupdates coming later, where do wego after updating this?

Make new gears or make the gear as lvl 250 equipable?
Members wont have a gun, minibot, shield or shoulder that nonmembers cant equip..?
We got right now something that they cant equip, what will be member benefits now?

perhaps allie said at 250 you will have all the benefits and 270 will reward only being 270 basically

Quote from: Iridion on September 04, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
perhaps allie said at 250 you will have all the benefits and 270 will reward only being 270 basically

being lvl 250 and with member flags and only 1 set? is the benefit?
and that you get dobble exp/coins/gigas?

with non members being able to be lvl 225 and using elektra and t3 , means that they doesn't have much reason to buy memberships?

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 04, 2013, 02:48:00 PM

Quote from: Iridion on September 04, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
perhaps allie said at 250 you will have all the benefits and 270 will reward only being 270 basically

being lvl 250 and with member flags and only 1 set? is the benefit?
and that you get dobble exp/coins/gigas?

with non members being able to be lvl 225 and using elektra and t3 , means that they doesn't have much reason to buy memberships?

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
In addition to these raid maps, I am tweaking the gearing scale. While it will be the same challenge to get to Elektra+7/T3, getting gear above Elektra will require running the three raids - Hackenn Ruins (221), X (235), X (250) (hidden for spoiler).

235 set is also member only so its not only 1 set.

Quote from: lara538 on September 04, 2013, 03:07:12 PM

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 04, 2013, 02:48:00 PM

Quote from: Iridion on September 04, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
perhaps allie said at 250 you will have all the benefits and 270 will reward only being 270 basically

being lvl 250 and with member flags and only 1 set? is the benefit?
and that you get dobble exp/coins/gigas?

with non members being able to be lvl 225 and using elektra and t3 , means that they doesn't have much reason to buy memberships?

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
In addition to these raid maps, I am tweaking the gearing scale. While it will be the same challenge to get to Elektra+7/T3, getting gear above Elektra will require running the three raids - Hackenn Ruins (221), X (235), X (250) (hidden for spoiler).

235 set is also member only so its not only 1 set.

she is also saying it's impossible to do these raids xD
but we are getting some new sets, but not a new minibot, shield or shoulder for members?

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 04, 2013, 03:22:49 PM

Quote from: lara538 on September 04, 2013, 03:07:12 PM

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 04, 2013, 02:48:00 PM

Quote from: Iridion on September 04, 2013, 02:30:48 PM
perhaps allie said at 250 you will have all the benefits and 270 will reward only being 270 basically

being lvl 250 and with member flags and only 1 set? is the benefit?
and that you get dobble exp/coins/gigas?

with non members being able to be lvl 225 and using elektra and t3 , means that they doesn't have much reason to buy memberships?

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
In addition to these raid maps, I am tweaking the gearing scale. While it will be the same challenge to get to Elektra+7/T3, getting gear above Elektra will require running the three raids - Hackenn Ruins (221), X (235), X (250) (hidden for spoiler).

235 set is also member only so its not only 1 set.

we are getting some new sets, but not a new minibot, shield or shoulder for members?

not like we have enough OP ones, rightttttt?

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 04, 2013, 03:22:49 PM
she is also saying it's impossible to do these raids xD
but we are getting some new sets, but not a new minibot, shield or shoulder for members?

I never said that. I would never let non-members get allthe benefits.

Allie is the EXP chart you posted a long time ago still accurate?

Quote from: Cooky on September 04, 2013, 04:28:03 PM
Allie is the EXP chart you posted a long time ago still accurate?

Check the thread you posted this question in originally, please don't spam.

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Check the thread you posted this question in originally, please don't spam.

sorry I did not see the thread in my unread posts so I didn't think you had responded, guess I will have to double check from now on

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 03, 2013, 08:54:08 PM
Are you guys ever gonna put god challenges up again? :o

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 04, 2013, 05:30:19 PM

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 03, 2013, 08:54:08 PM
Are you guys ever gonna put god challenges up again? :o

Yeah pleaseeeeee

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 06:29:05 PM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 06:02:22 PM
Why such a big leap? Going from 172 to 255 is huge. from 221 to 270 is huge as well.

It's 172 to 225, thats 53 levels. 221 to 270 is 49 levels. It's a bit huge, yes, but that just means opening the availability of even more content, and giving players something to strive for again.

219 tier3 will stay 219?

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 05:50:45 PM

Quote from: qolderman on September 03, 2013, 05:48:15 PM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 08:18:42 AM

Quote from: loewe98 on September 03, 2013, 08:14:49 AM


True , 113 Mil xp ... Its great i got almost 80 mil exp . But howmutch xp do we wil get from the new map since we need so mutch xp?
Wil their be an xp update to level up faster ? Is it going to stay the same ?

It'll be the exact same, essentially. With the sector update proposed, 276 (Zeon's Requiem) is planned to give about half the xp as 8p currently does.

What about 172? They will become 250 or?
Or my eyes are blind  ;D

172 non-members will go up just the same as members. As the new cap is currently 172, all non-members will go up to a cap of 225, found out the same way 270 is. That means all non-members will have the option of playing all current content and obtaining survival T3/elektra+7 just the same as members, putting them on par in pvp. However, they only have access to the first tier of raiding, which is significantly stronger than T3/elektra+7 anyway, but is not nearly as powerful as higher sets.

Oh thx
Thats cool ;D

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 05:47:02 PM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 03, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
concern over reaching max level

Fortunately (or unfortunately, perhaps), we have thought of this! To enjoy all the content in the game, you really only have to reach level 250. Reaching 270 is for time and bragging rights as of this patch. There is no content designed after 250, which gives 27 people (I'm expecting this to increase fast) the (theoretical) immediate ability to enjoy all the new content.

You already have enough of a stat increase with the creation of armors above tier 3 and elek +7. So what do you need it for? What's so fun about 1 hitting everything? Reminds me of hacking >_>

Quote from: Epic xD on September 04, 2013, 02:20:11 AM

Quote from: qolderman on September 03, 2013, 05:28:18 PM
And remove the walls that block mercs like on Plains D:<

No, do not follow this idea. That's an awful idea.

Yarp, do not follow.

Also, lyfe on skype nao.

Plus, I vote base since I didn't official vote before.

like i like your whole idea don't get me wrong but 270 its just so much could your please have a vote with other staff or the whole community to lower that to around 250-260?

Quote from: FallenShadow on September 04, 2013, 12:20:52 AM

Quote from: orsaky on September 03, 2013, 11:48:01 PM

Quote from: -Speedy- on September 03, 2013, 11:45:36 PM
Old update: 200 - 221 4m xp need to become new max level
New update: 221 - 270 100m+ xp to become max lvl. where is this logic coming from allie?

Logic: lets make 17482922m exp to max level so nobody gets it and gives up.

alexander/fallen for once in my live i agree with you. its complete how i feel.

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 06:41:15 PM

Quote from: zomniethe4 on September 03, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
would merc even be smart enough to move from one base to another

Not sure. But it's a project to be pursued, is it not?

But mercs are so "smart" when wall is blocking them and they just cant move right or left. They just jump to beat the wall lulz

Quote from: -Speedy- on September 04, 2013, 05:45:09 PM
like i like your whole idea don't get me wrong but 270 its just so much could your please have a vote with other staff or the whole community to lower that to around 250-260?

NO please, i want 270

Quote from: Bombz on September 04, 2013, 05:46:35 PM

Quote from: -Speedy- on September 04, 2013, 05:45:09 PM
like i like your whole idea don't get me wrong but 270 its just so much could your please have a vote with other staff or the whole community to lower that to around 250-260?

NO please, i want 270

same here ::)

Quote from: Corr on September 04, 2013, 05:43:03 PM
You already have enough of a stat increase with the creation of armors above tier 3 and elek +7. So what do you need it for? What's so fun about 1 hitting everything? Reminds me of hacking >_>

I would normally accept your concern, but you went about describing your concern in a horribly unintelligent manner. You will not be 1 hitting everything - with attack/hp increases come increased mob difficulty. You will be 3-4x as powerful at 250 as you are 221 (if fully decked in raid gear), but mobs will be 5x as powerful. Given that so little people will successfully manage to make it that far, you will rarely see raid gear running around in sector (and stats will be capped in any PvP scenario) anyway.

If people at 250 can successfully complete 239 in a timely manner, I do not see an issue. Stat growth. I'm not increasing speed or TG or anything that would cause the armor to insta hit 100% evade. It is simply a gear check reward system for difficulty in raids.

Quote from: qolderman on September 04, 2013, 05:45:41 PM

Quote from: Allie on September 03, 2013, 06:41:15 PM

Quote from: zomniethe4 on September 03, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
would merc even be smart enough to move from one base to another

Not sure. But it's a project to be pursued, is it not?

But mercs are so "smart" when wall is blocking them and they just cant move right or left. They just jump to beat the wall lulz

ur supposed to lead them .-.
(i think)

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 04, 2013, 05:30:19 PM

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 03, 2013, 08:54:08 PM
Are you guys ever gonna put god challenges up again? :o

still waiting for a answer ::)

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 04, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
Probably just being 270 is only benefit?

And have the 2x exp bonus which if it is till left in the game then will be one of the most helpful things in game as everyone is complaining about the amount of exp needed. ;)

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 04, 2013, 08:28:41 PM

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 04, 2013, 05:30:19 PM
still waiting for a answer ::)

Maybe don't spam ;)

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 04, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
Probably just being 270 is only benefit?

That's pretty shitty for people who spent 100 dollars on a permanent membership in a game that's still running.

And I will never have a membership longer than a week.

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Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 07:36:43 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 04, 2013, 05:43:03 PM
You already have enough of a stat increase with the creation of armors above tier 3 and elek +7. So what do you need it for? What's so fun about 1 hitting everything? Reminds me of hacking >_>

I would normally accept your concern, but you went about describing your concern in a horribly unintelligent manner. You will not be 1 hitting everything - with attack/hp increases come increased mob difficulty. You will be 3-4x as powerful at 250 as you are 221 (if fully decked in raid gear), but mobs will be 5x as powerful. Given that so little people will successfully manage to make it that far, you will rarely see raid gear running around in sector (and stats will be capped in any PvP scenario) anyway.

If people at 250 can successfully complete 239 in a timely manner, I do not see an issue. Stat growth. I'm not increasing speed or TG or anything that would cause the armor to insta hit 100% evade. It is simply a gear check reward system for difficulty in raids.

I was referring to doing lv1 on high level/armor accounts as if it were like hacking, get it? :P

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 04, 2013, 11:51:02 PM
What I said before about level 270 being to much to handle, I take it back. I forgot that the highest level armor goes to 250. I thought the armor went to 270 so that would be BS trying to get 270 for the armor.

Also, I take it bvb update is first? Because everyone voted for it (basically).

Patch is currently planned for mid of next week, voting will remain up until then.
That means there's plenty of time for any concerns to be brought up.

I don't want base update first  :(

im not a competitive player so yeah

Quote from: Corr on September 04, 2013, 11:09:42 PM

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 07:36:43 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 04, 2013, 05:43:03 PM
You already have enough of a stat increase with the creation of armors above tier 3 and elek +7. So what do you need it for? What's so fun about 1 hitting everything? Reminds me of hacking >_>

I would normally accept your concern, but you went about describing your concern in a horribly unintelligent manner. You will not be 1 hitting everything - with attack/hp increases come increased mob difficulty. You will be 3-4x as powerful at 250 as you are 221 (if fully decked in raid gear), but mobs will be 5x as powerful. Given that so little people will successfully manage to make it that far, you will rarely see raid gear running around in sector (and stats will be capped in any PvP scenario) anyway.

If people at 250 can successfully complete 239 in a timely manner, I do not see an issue. Stat growth. I'm not increasing speed or TG or anything that would cause the armor to insta hit 100% evade. It is simply a gear check reward system for difficulty in raids.

I was referring to doing lv1 on high level/armor accounts as if it were like hacking, get it? :P

You can already 1 hit mobs on lv 1, so how does this update ruin it?  ::)

i know alot of you are going to tell me to fk off but

i would like base update first

Quote from: orsaky on September 05, 2013, 12:22:42 AM
i know alot of you are going to tell me to fk off but

i would like base update first

I agree wit orsaky

Bvb Update... Aka Best update ever...

Quote from: Rossbach on September 05, 2013, 12:50:46 AM

Quote from: orsaky on September 05, 2013, 12:22:42 AM
i know alot of you are going to tell me to fk off but

i would like base update first

Thought you quit.


What happened to "last post?"

Quote from: orsaky on August 30, 2013, 05:21:18 AM
last post bye  ::)

off topic get warned

Quote from: TinyPatch on September 05, 2013, 01:03:30 AM
Bvb Update... Aka Best update ever...

i 100% agree, unless this update is better then i expect

from what allies told me from lvl 221-270 will be like 150-221 so it shouldnt be that bad. of unless she ment from my level which is 253 not sure but altogether shouldnt be bad.

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 04, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
Also Allie shouldn't you make a poll? Or will you just read comments?

Poll would be a lot easier, however people may start making accounts or go on their other accounts to vote for the same thing.

would it be easier to lvl up if im lvl idk example 100 would it be easy to get to 225?
Edit: would super doubler work?

will t3 sets be tradeable?
when members gets new raid gear they can sell their t3s to non-members and make profit of it?

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 05, 2013, 03:45:08 AM
will t3 sets be tradeable?
when members gets new raid gear they can sell their t3s to non-members and make profit of it?

Might wanna take a second thought before givinyour set. If you arent 270 after the update you might want to get to 250 or 270 and that T3 isnt just for looks it also has a exp bonus. J/s ;)

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 05, 2013, 03:55:57 AM

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 05, 2013, 03:45:08 AM
will t3 sets be tradeable?
when members gets new raid gear they can sell their t3s to non-members and make profit of it?

I don't think they will be trade able. The main reason why I think that is because it would take meaning away from that set. T3 219 will turn into a Mete set kinda. Also the people wanting the T3 should work for it and not just buy it.

you know that meteor set was made for 3-5 people, meta wanted it first.
but they released it to other players later, so people bought it..
and now it isn't that rare any more, as t3 it isn't that rare, cause many members got it.

If it's made to be tradeable, i don't think many members gonna sell it, cause it's giving 40% exp, and members needs alot of exp after the update :P

Im psyched for all of the updates. Idc which comes first. Finally another reason to play <3

can you tell us the date when it will be released?

Quote from: qolderman on September 05, 2013, 05:28:17 PM
can you tell us the date when it will be released?

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 11:53:25 PM
Patch is currently planned for mid of next week, voting will remain up until then.
That means there's plenty of time for any concerns to be brought up.

my vote goes to base update

Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on September 05, 2013, 06:18:41 PM
my vote goes to base update

Quote from: Selene on September 05, 2013, 05:29:44 PM

Quote from: qolderman on September 05, 2013, 05:28:17 PM
can you tell us the date when it will be released?

Quote from: Allie on September 04, 2013, 11:53:25 PM
Patch is currently planned for mid of next week, voting will remain up until then.
That means there's plenty of time for any concerns to be brought up.

k

The base update may end up helping the game more in the long run, but the sector update NEEDS to come first. We cant have max level being 270 and the highest sector level being 239.. that would be ridiculous. We need more levels in between 239-270 before we add anything else.

This isn't really a 'pick which update is your favorite' its a 'pick which update should be added first'. I think people need to realize that.

I've been stuck at 220 forever and now you raise the level cap lawl

Quote from: Cooky on September 05, 2013, 07:19:27 PM
The base update may end up helping the game more in the long run, but the sector update NEEDS to come first. We cant have max level being 270 and the highest sector level being 239.. that would be ridiculous. We need more levels in between 239-270 before we add anything else.

This isn't really a 'pick which update is your favorite' its a 'pick which update should be added first'. I think people need to realize that.

Sector is the most played game mode, base isn't played that much and needs fixes, fix something that needs to be fixed first

Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 05, 2013, 07:36:01 PM

Quote from: Cooky on September 05, 2013, 07:19:27 PM
The base update may end up helping the game more in the long run, but the sector update NEEDS to come first. We cant have max level being 270 and the highest sector level being 239.. that would be ridiculous. We need more levels in between 239-270 before we add anything else.

This isn't really a 'pick which update is your favorite' its a 'pick which update should be added first'. I think people need to realize that.

Sector is the most played game mode, base isn't played that much and needs fixes, fix something that needs to be fixed first

Alternatively, don't screw over the most played game mode?
Just a thought. It's a community vote.

Quote from: Cooky on September 05, 2013, 07:19:27 PM
The base update may end up helping the game more in the long run, but the sector update NEEDS to come first. We cant have max level being 270 and the highest sector level being 239.. that would be ridiculous. We need more levels in between 239-270 before we add anything else.

This isn't really a 'pick which update is your favorite' its a 'pick which update should be added first'. I think people need to realize that.

Idk but I agree with what cooky is saying.

Sector update please!!

If the base update comes first, what's the point in doing the level update until the sector update comes?

Quote from: Cooky on September 05, 2013, 07:19:27 PM
The base update may end up helping the game more in the long run, but the sector update NEEDS to come first. We cant have max level being 270 and the highest sector level being 239.. that would be ridiculous. We need more levels in between 239-270 before we add anything else.

This isn't really a 'pick which update is your favorite' its a 'pick which update should be added first'. I think people need to realize that.

People realized it, people chose base.

Sectorers won't have a problem with this anyways, they like doing the same shit over and over again, if they like sector so much they shouldn't care that the reward is going to be less than what they bargained for.

Quote from: Purple on September 05, 2013, 07:39:57 PM
If the base update comes first, what's the point in doing the level update until the sector update comes?

So you can see how fun it is too not play a repeated mode over and over just for points on a board that says rank 1.

Here is the vote so far:

Base:    18 Votes

Medchill
Oreos
Maxter gundam
Pig
Di
jinhongzhu
Helix
Nik
Meteor
sirhamtaro
Toast
CyberSox
Corr
orsaky
Tinypatch
Alexander
Ian
Purple


Sector:  7 Votes

Cooky
Dannii
qolderman
Bombz
Experiences ( I think)
Robo
nanak tatum


Theres a bunch of people who commented but did not vote..

definitely base LOL

i vote sector cus i like to lvl enough tho i like base

base is better imoimomimomimomum shmsmhmshmshmshmsh -lyfe 2013


base update first

Here is the vote so far:

Base:    19 Votes


Oreos
Maxter gundam
Pig
Di
jinhongzhu
Helix
Nik
Meteor
sirhamtaro
Toast
CyberSox
Corr
orsaky
Tinypatch
Alexander
Ian
Purple
Merc
Lyfe


Sector:  8 Votes

Cooky
Dannii
qolderman
Bombz
Experiences ( I think)
Robo
nanak tatum
Speedy

base got 20 votes cooky u4got lyfe aka Epic xD

Hmmm both updates would be awesome. I might change my mind. Hmm... I think I'll wait until more discussion has happened before my vote has been decided (cooks can you not put my vote down yet please?)

Quote from: medchiller on September 05, 2013, 08:58:03 PM
(cooks can you not put my vote down yet please?)

sure

Quote from: medchiller on September 05, 2013, 08:58:03 PM
(cooks can you not put my vote down yet please?)

It's not the official vote count, Med. Allie is going to check her self when it's time.

Quote from: Selene on September 05, 2013, 09:07:23 PM

Quote from: medchiller on September 05, 2013, 08:58:03 PM
(cooks can you not put my vote down yet please?)

It's not the official vote count, Med. Allie is going to check her self when it's time.

pretty sure he knows that?

Quote from: Selene on September 05, 2013, 09:07:23 PM

Quote from: medchiller on September 05, 2013, 08:58:03 PM
(cooks can you not put my vote down yet please?)

It's not the official vote count, Med. Allie is going to check her self when it's time.

Oh no I know just didn't want anyone to think I had made up my mind for sure yet. Thanks for the info though :D

Wow cooky so fast response, that refresh button must be getting abused. ; D

Bais still leads, as well as it should, cause imo both of these updates are going to get implanted this year, at least I hope so.

Quote from: Corr on September 05, 2013, 09:51:10 PM
Wow cooky so fast response, that refresh button must be getting abused. ; D

what

Quote from: Cooky on September 05, 2013, 10:03:34 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 05, 2013, 09:51:10 PM
Wow cooky so fast response, that refresh button must be getting abused. ; D

what

The time between your post and Selene's was like 20 seconds.
Anyways back on topic. ;)

i vote for any cause both are pretty cool

Allie, what update would be faster to make? What approximately is the time difference between the two? I was wondering because if it would be faster to do the sector update then we can play the current update until the sector one came out and then just play those maps/ level to level 270 as we wait for the base update.

Idk why all you base users are wanting base update. You guys already tried "Reviving" it.. what happened? You guys failed. And all the suggestions you guys made, I feel like it's only for your Zealies own benefits. Also barely and of you guys play anymore, and I doubt you guys will return because of one update. Also, you guys will never be able to "Revive" base again with that "Clique" of yours. Whenever I play base with you guys, it literally feels like I'm playing with people that can careless whether I'm in the room or not. If you want more people to play with you guys, shouldn't you guys start being friendly and nice to people?  Most of you guys are so conceited and full of yourself and almost impossible to communicate with any of you guys because you guys think you guys know it all. After you guys read this post, I can almost guarantee that you guys are gonna be like " WTF? STFU! YOU'RE STUPID YOU DON'T KNOW S**T!" but when you do you only prove my point so go for it.
I vote for sector :D

Quote from: pippie on September 06, 2013, 01:13:02 AM
Idk why all you base users are wanting base update. You guys already tried "Reviving" it.. what happened? You guys failed. And all the suggestions you guys made, I feel like it's only for your Zealies own benefits. Also barely and of you guys play anymore, and I doubt you guys will return because of one update. Also, you guys will never be able to "Revive" base again with that "Clique" of yours. Whenever I play base with you guys, it literally feels like I'm playing with people that can careless whether I'm in the room or not. If you want more people to play with you guys, shouldn't you guys start being friendly and nice to people?  Most of you guys are so conceited and full of yourself and almost impossible to communicate with any of you guys because you guys think you guys know it all. After you guys read this post, I can almost guarantee that you guys are gonna be like " WTF? STFU! YOU'RE STUPID YOU DON'T KNOW S**T!" but when you do you only prove my point so go for it.
I vote for sector :D

this is not true at all. i tried base for the first time on bc with them with my alt before people knew it was me and they were just serious.
as long as you listen they wont be assholes to you and if you want them to talk to you, you just gotta talk also. they are not like you think.

Quote from: orsaky on September 06, 2013, 01:22:28 AM

Quote from: pippie on September 06, 2013, 01:13:02 AM
Idk why all you base users are wanting base update. You guys already tried "Reviving" it.. what happened? You guys failed. And all the suggestions you guys made, I feel like it's only for your Zealies own benefits. Also barely and of you guys play anymore, and I doubt you guys will return because of one update. Also, you guys will never be able to "Revive" base again with that "Clique" of yours. Whenever I play base with you guys, it literally feels like I'm playing with people that can careless whether I'm in the room or not. If you want more people to play with you guys, shouldn't you guys start being friendly and nice to people?  Most of you guys are so conceited and full of yourself and almost impossible to communicate with any of you guys because you guys think you guys know it all. After you guys read this post, I can almost guarantee that you guys are gonna be like " WTF? STFU! YOU'RE STUPID YOU DON'T KNOW S**T!" but when you do you only prove my point so go for it.
I vote for sector :D

this is not true at all. i tried base for the first time on bc with them with my alt before people knew it was me and they were just serious.
as long as you listen they wont be *******s to you and if you want them to talk to you, you just gotta talk also. they are not like you think.

So your saying it is our responsibility to reach out and play with them when they are the ones that want to "revive" base?

Quote from: pippie on September 06, 2013, 01:13:02 AM
Idk why all you base users are wanting base update. You guys already tried "Reviving" it.. what happened? You guys failed. And all the suggestions you guys made, I feel like it's only for your Zealies own benefits. Also barely and of you guys play anymore, and I doubt you guys will return because of one update. Also, you guys will never be able to "Revive" base again with that "Clique" of yours. Whenever I play base with you guys, it literally feels like I'm playing with people that can careless whether I'm in the room or not. If you want more people to play with you guys, shouldn't you guys start being friendly and nice to people?  Most of you guys are so conceited and full of yourself and almost impossible to communicate with any of you guys because you guys think you guys know it all. After you guys read this post, I can almost guarantee that you guys are gonna be like " WTF? STFU! YOU'RE STUPID YOU DON'T KNOW S**T!" but when you do you only prove my point so go for it.
I vote for sector :D

smh
There are so many things wrong with this post.

>Benefits only ZeaLies
Yeah, because fixing a game mode is totally for just one small group, right? If you had any idea about how base worked in Bots, you'd see that the way base currently is is flawed. Let's start off with the "old" base mode, since no one exactly knows what having multiple bases is like. Most of the updates in the current base mode are simple fixes and adjustments to mercs and the OP tag. I don't know about you, but those are some pretty damn small updates -- they're just simple tweaks. As it has been said multiple times, every base update before has been unsuccessful and made the mechanics of the game worse because the admins didn't communicate with people who have knowledge of the game. Also, base needs an update way more than sector does: Sector gets one on literally every update.

As for the new sub-mode of BvB, I don't know what to even expect in all honesty.

>People don't care that I'm in the room and that I'm useless
Well, maybe if you learned how to do stuff, you wouldn't be useless. That's not my problem; you have to learn how to play the game on your own. Anyways, we've become much more friendly to newer players.

>talking about how base "revivals" have failed before
The only base revival topic I found that wasn't Corr's was by Josh. More or less, I think this begs a very important question. What revival? The only "revival" was run by Tricky, and he doesn't even (or hasn't really ever played) play base. Having someone who doesn't play base run a revival movement is incredibly stupid. Imagine if civil rights activists didn't actually believe what they were saying. Pretty stupid, eh?

>huge egos
Not really, most of what we say is more for the lulz than anything else.

Quote from: medchiller on September 06, 2013, 01:07:55 AM
Allie, what update would be faster to make? What approximately is the time difference between the two? I was wondering because if it would be faster to do the sector update then we can play the current update until the sector one came out and then just play those maps/ level to level 270 as we wait for the base update.

Sector would probably take a week or less, perhaps. Base might take up to a month, but that's up to.

Quote from: Cooky on September 05, 2013, 08:32:42 PM
Here is the vote so far:

Base:    19 Votes


Oreos
Maxter gundam
Pig
Di
jinhongzhu
Helix
Nik
Meteor
sirhamtaro
Toast
CyberSox
Corr
orsaky
Tinypatch
Alexander
Ian
Purple
Merc
Lyfe


Sector:  8 Votes

Cooky
Dannii
qolderman
Bombz
Experiences ( I think)
Robo
nanak tatum
Speedy

if you didn't count me for sector im sure you didnt count a lotta peoples

Sector update would be the best update, since base is gonna take a month or more ;p

Quote from: nemano9988 on September 06, 2013, 06:07:55 AM

Quote from: Yz on September 06, 2013, 03:21:24 AM

Quote from: Cooky on September 05, 2013, 08:32:42 PM
Here is the vote so far:

Base:    19 Votes


Oreos
Maxter gundam
Pig
Di
jinhongzhu
Helix
Nik
Meteor
sirhamtaro
Toast
CyberSox
Corr
orsaky
Tinypatch
Alexander
Ian
Purple
Merc
Lyfe


Sector:  8 Votes

Cooky
Dannii
qolderman
Bombz
Experiences ( I think)
Robo
nanak tatum
Speedy

if you didn't count me for sector im sure you didnt count a lotta peoples

ad my vote to sector to pls

Add mine to sector also..

Add mine to sector

Add mine to sector please

Here is the vote so far:

Base:    19 Votes


Oreos
Maxter gundam
Pig
Di
jinhongzhu
Helix
Nik
Meteor
sirhamtaro
Toast
CyberSox
Corr
orsaky
Tinypatch
Alexander
Ian
Purple
Merc
Lyfe


Sector:  14 Votes

Cooky
Dannii
qolderman
Bombz
Experiences ( I think)
Robo
nanak tatum
Speedy
pippie
Radioactive
KEUMO
BOTS13
Admin Yz
Selene

@Yz  I didn't include you last time because I couldn't tell which one you preferred:

Quote from: Yz on September 03, 2013, 11:12:53 PM
more raid mapsp n items ok thanks +1 base if you can really change up the maps

Sector.

Quote from: Selene on September 06, 2013, 09:31:50 AM
Sector.

added


Sector is catching up! Only 5 more votes!    :D

I want secter     :D

Quote from: kulvinder on September 06, 2013, 10:28:10 AM
After thinking I would think the next lvl cap would be cool so I change my vote to sector sorry :P

Lvl cap will get increased even with base update so change your vote back if that was the reason to change

Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on September 06, 2013, 10:35:43 AM

Quote from: kulvinder on September 06, 2013, 10:28:10 AM
After thinking I would think the next lvl cap would be cool so I change my vote to sector sorry :P

Lvl cap will get increased even with base update so change your vote back if that was the reason to change

Nooooo! Keep your vote to sector kulvinder pls and we're friends and base update takes like a month.

nice choice kulvinder  :D

Sector is now just 2 votes behind

i'm with the base. the new sector maps will come eventually when the demand is high due to people being lvl 250 (half xp from jura) but base and pvp is basically dead. with this update base/pvp will hopefully rise again.

i want secter

I vote 4 sector,base is fun but i am more sectorish.

Sector just 1 vote behind   :D

Sector For me :) evens it up x

Here is the vote so far:

Base:    20 Votes


Oreos
Maxter gundam
Pig
Di
jinhongzhu
Helix
Nik
Meteor
sirhamtaro
Toast
CyberSox
Corr
orsaky
Tinypatch
Alexander
Ian
Purple
Merc
Lyfe
gietje_ram

Sector:  21 Votes

Cooky
Dannii
qolderman
Bombz
Experiences ( I think)
Robo
nanak tatum
Speedy
pippie
Radioactive
KEUMO
BOTS13
Admin Yz
Selene
CHAN0327
Shass
kulvinder
dnxm7601
Leon
Rebuck
Medchill

VOTE

After all I'm going to go with sector. I stated my reason why before. :)

Quote from: medchiller on September 06, 2013, 12:06:48 PM
After all I'm going to go with sector. I stated my reason why before. :)

SECTOR TAKES THE LEAD!  :D

aren't they already updating sector with this current update? so i think its bases turn next.

ill vote base

Here is the vote so far:

Base:    22 Votes


Oreos
Maxter gundam
Pig
Di
jinhongzhu
Helix
Nik
Meteor
sirhamtaro
Toast
CyberSox
Corr
orsaky
Tinypatch
Alexander
Ian
Purple
Merc
Lyfe
gietje_ram
krukster
mattattmon

Sector:  25 Votes

Cooky
Dannii
qolderman
Bombz
Experiences ( I think)
Robo
nanak tatum
Speedy
pippie
Radioactive
KEUMO
BOTS13
Admin Yz
Selene
CHAN0327
Shass
kulvinder
dnxm7601
Leon
Rebuck
Medchill
Osiris
crazySURGE
loewe98
hypershadic

VOTE


@Radioactive  you are already on there  ::)   cant find your own name?

+1 Sector

Quote from: Mario666 on September 06, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Having a poll on this topic would be easier ::)

No, it wouldn't be, for reasons already stated on this thread

Quote from: Cooky on September 06, 2013, 12:41:22 PM

Quote from: Mario666 on September 06, 2013, 12:36:48 PM
Having a poll on this topic would be easier ::)

No, it wouldn't be, for reasons already stated on this thread

lol nevermind then

Sector +1
Not much people play base these days...

Quote from: crazySURGE on September 06, 2013, 01:00:47 PM
Sector +1
Not much people play base these days...

Amount of people basing is increasing nowadays

Quote from: Helix-Live on September 06, 2013, 01:02:07 PM
Amount of people basing is increasing nowadays

cool, then lets do the sector update first!  :D

Quote from: Cooky on September 06, 2013, 01:14:54 PM

Quote from: Helix-Live on September 06, 2013, 01:02:07 PM
Amount of people basing is increasing nowadays

cool, then lets do the sector update first!  :D

no

+1 sector

Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on September 06, 2013, 01:36:20 PM

Quote from: Cooky on September 06, 2013, 01:14:54 PM

Quote from: Helix-Live on September 06, 2013, 01:02:07 PM
Amount of people basing is increasing nowadays

cool, then lets do the sector update first!  :D

no

Sorry mate, but it's 25 against 22

Base please
because sector is in the lead

Sector

i bet some of these people who posted are alts

base

I also have to side with base.

Quote from: Jeffalo13 on September 06, 2013, 05:30:39 PM
base

Sectorrr

Base please ~ Fear

Dewo, mikeyy (notanon), light, and meta also said +1 for bvb

Quote from: mic99 on September 06, 2013, 05:33:34 PM
I also have to side with base.

Dewo, lightrequiem, fear, mikkey, hct, iri, and pokeh all said base.

Quote from: Corr on September 06, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
Dewo, lightrequiem, fear, mikkey, hct, iri, and pokeh all said base.

You know their vote won't count. We need them to say it.

Quote from: Vobck on September 06, 2013, 08:25:54 PM

Quote from: mic99 on September 06, 2013, 05:33:34 PM
I also have to side with base.

^ base  ^~^
It's the game mode that is least played so it will be great if it has an update that may get more people to play it.

+1 base

(http://i39.tinypic.com/oseibt.png)

Vote for Base update.

P.s ZeaL didn't force me. :-(

If you think about it you won't have time for the new sector maps if you're busy doing raid maps lol. If the Base update could revive the mode then why not.

Quote from: lsqe on September 06, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
If you think about it you won't have time for the new sector maps if you're busy doing raid maps lol. If the Base update could revive the mode then why not.

Please don't double post, edit your previous post to say whats above thanks ;)

i vote base not sector now

I'm sure if you update base first which will take more than a month like Allie said, people will play it for short period of time and eventually it will be dead again; Whether as If sector gets updated first, it's most likely for people to enjoy it and to play it much longer than base.

Quote from: pippie on September 06, 2013, 10:51:07 PM
I'm sure if you update base first which will take more than a month like Allie said, people will play it for short period of time and eventually it will be dead again; Whether as If sector gets updated first, it's most likely for people to enjoy it and to play it much longer than base.

You know nothing. Sector. Enjoyable? LOL. Maybe for the first year or so of playing the game. It gets old after playing it for 6 years without being able to do anything different in PvP and Base, while sector has gotten tons of updates. If sector is more popular why update it? Update the unpopular modes instead. It makes more sense to balance the game modes so people play all of them somewhat equally, but you apparently don't get that.

Quote from: pippie on September 06, 2013, 10:51:07 PM
I'm sure if you update base first which will take more than a month like Allie said, people will play it for short period of time and eventually it will be dead again; Whether as If sector gets updated first, it's most likely for people to enjoy it and to play it much longer than base.

true , cause sector is the main gameplay in boutcheetah, so most people in-game would enjoy it.

And if you ask people like meta that doesn't play much (as i have seen) then ask all that is online what they think? :O

Yes, feelings must be mutual. Because most people don't know how to base we have to direct them and help them out as much as we can, as I see being serious is what gets peoples attention, they won't rage so long as they win.

We aren't admins so we can't 'revive' a base but we can 'revive' a community and we've built a strong one. If we were careless we would make stacked teams all day and just rack up wins, if we were careless people would sure see and just leave the room (obviously). If you play on my team (and you can ask anyone who's played) I always congratulate players "gj, good push, nice help" ect. When someone pro like pig or lyfe or fear make a dumb mistake that's when I put my anger out on them because durf they should know better (Like when someone you know is good at sector and is doing something stupid your first initial reaction is wtf what are you doing).

I'm not sure who you are and I'm a bit curious to find out but at the same time if you're not willing to learn from mistakes and accept our suggestions while in-game then you belong in a rut. Just saying.

maybe extend the ability to vote to all the players who dont forum?

Base ::)

Quote from: zekromr on September 06, 2013, 11:16:00 PM

Quote from: pippie on September 06, 2013, 10:51:07 PM
I'm sure if you update base first which will take more than a month like Allie said, people will play it for short period of time and eventually it will be dead again; Whether as If sector gets updated first, it's most likely for people to enjoy it and to play it much longer than base.

You know nothing. Sector. Enjoyable? LOL. Maybe for the first year or so of playing the game. It gets old after playing it for 6 years without being able to do anything different in PvP and Base, while sector has gotten tons of updates. If sector is more popular why update it? Update the unpopular modes instead. It makes more sense to balance the game modes so people play all of them somewhat equally, but you apparently don't get that.

Update a mode that's already dead? That's been dead? Still will be dead even after a month long update? LOL did you really just say why update sector when it's popular? How do you think game businesses make money? They don't focus on something that failed, but they focus on something that's popular so the game gets even more popular lol. It doesn't make any sense to balance the game modes in BC becaues more than half of the BC community aren't even interested in base. Why do you think BC is still running today? it's not because of PvP, but it's sure as hell not because of Base. Sector is what's running this game today my friend lol so why not make improvements on something that's already developed and played by most users.

updating base won't get zylon any money, just sayin that right now

no one who plays base is gonna buy membership and a dark meto with usd

Quote from: Yz on September 07, 2013, 06:25:18 AM
updating base won't get zylon any money, just sayin that right now

no one who plays base is gonna buy membership and a dark meto with usd

^^ exactly

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 07, 2013, 12:25:12 AM

Quote from: Iridion on September 06, 2013, 11:48:07 PM
maybe extend the ability to vote to all the players who dont forum?

Like a message when you log in or something? I dunno but I agree that people who don't use forums need to be able to vote.

I personally wouldn't care which update came first if they both took the same amount of time to do. But since Base update will take 1 month, I vote for sector (which i know i already said) because there is nothing to do and waiting 1 month is kinda long.

Also Allie can you fix the Survival Exp because it needs a fix and I assume it will only take like 5 mins or so to fix???

Base update would take a week. Literally we're already 3/4 done with it.

Also those people who don't forum are non educated and probably don't even know what base/pvp is. So ofcourse they'll pick sector, which is unfair to vote that way. Just saying.

No, she can't fix it now because she's busy guessing which update is gonna prevail. Herp derp.

Quote from: Yz on September 07, 2013, 06:25:18 AM
updating base won't get zylon any money, just sayin that right now

no one who plays base is gonna buy membership and a dark meto with usd

well if thats the point im so disappointed

i want secter.

Quote from: Iridion on September 07, 2013, 08:29:47 AM

Quote from: Yz on September 07, 2013, 06:25:18 AM
updating base won't get zylon any money, just sayin that right now

no one who plays base is gonna buy membership and a dark meto with usd

well if thats the point im so disappointed

if it gets money that proves that the community likes it. sector update would be win-win

If the vote was something in-game where when you login you get to vote for either sector or base and you only get 1 vote, sector would win 90% to 10% at least. I don't think its really fair to do a forum vote. Theres like.. idk.. 50? people who care about base.. and hundreds who care about sector. But like all the base people use the forum so they are balancing the vote when in reality the player base would strongly prefer the sector update, its just not many of them use the forum (probably because they are busy playing sector whereas the base fans have free time while they sit in an empty room waiting for someone to join).

There should at least be a link, a button, an ad, or something in-game to tell players about this vote. Its really not fair. Base is probably going to win even though 90% of the player base doesn't agree with it. That's not a community poll, that's a tragedy. My advice is to make the decision yourself or have some sort of in-game vote (or at least a way to tell players in-game about the vote). This forum vote thing is really silly and doesn't accurately reflect the communities opinion.

I agree with cooky.

I like how base votes started to take over and he stopped updating his votes list.

Quote from: Meteor on September 07, 2013, 09:00:12 AM
I like how base votes started to take over and he stopped updating his votes list.

I have a life you know, I was at work for the last 8 hours. Also I see people reporting others votes for them and so I don't know what to count and what not to count so I will leave it to the admins to update the vote if they choose to, I am not doing it anymore.

Quote from: Selene on September 06, 2013, 08:40:23 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 06, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
Dewo, lightrequiem, fear, mikkey, hct, iri, and pokeh all said base.

You know their vote won't count. We need them to say it.

sup

Let's just remove PvP and BvB and have only Sector.

Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 07, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
Let's just remove PvP and BvB and have only Sector.

IF they do that.. Bc will fall like a rock out of the sky

Quote from: ReturneD on September 07, 2013, 12:14:21 PM

Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 07, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
Let's just remove PvP and BvB and have only Sector.

IF they do that.. Bc will fall like a rock out of the sky

no it wont

that's right the no livers would stay
(not ment to staff)
But if only sector would stay this game would be sooo boringg..

That's what it feels like to players already though. They don't care for pvp/bvb so if you wanna make this game a total grind fest just to make a quick buck from senseless Koreans and not from players on forums (cause lets face it most/if not all of them got memberships for free) then by all means go for it.

Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 07, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
Let's just remove PvP and BvB and have only Sector.

lets just remove pvp and have base and sector

Quote from: qolderman on September 07, 2013, 02:43:09 PM

Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 07, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
Let's just remove PvP and BvB and have only Sector.

lets just remove pvp and have base and sector

He was joking
you are not

wtf are you saying

I changed my mind i vote 4 bais,i wanna to not only 1 mode on this game was active,all game modes deserve updates.

Quote from: Iridion on September 03, 2013, 08:30:19 AM
if one update only had to take place the sector one seems the best since sector is the most played mode. but if the pvp/bvb update would be effective enough to refresh and make those modes more popular i think it would be very preferred

thats for base incase its not clear 8)

Just give us the base update... plz

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 07, 2013, 08:14:26 PM

Quote from: leonidsa on September 07, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
I changed my mind i vote 4 bais,i wanna to not only 1 mode on this game was active,all game modes deserve updates.

They both will get updates but this is to decide which is first.

Nope, you're wrong on that part.

Quote from: Corr on September 07, 2013, 09:22:56 PM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 07, 2013, 08:14:26 PM

Quote from: leonidsa on September 07, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
I changed my mind i vote 4 bais,i wanna to not only 1 mode on this game was active,all game modes deserve updates.

They both will get updates but this is to decide which is first.

Nope, you're wrong on that part.

This 'poll' is to decide which update to do FIRST, whichever one doesn't win will be done after the winning update is completed. So he is right.

Quote from: Cooky on September 07, 2013, 09:29:13 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 07, 2013, 09:22:56 PM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 07, 2013, 08:14:26 PM

Quote from: leonidsa on September 07, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
I changed my mind i vote 4 bais,i wanna to not only 1 mode on this game was active,all game modes deserve updates.

They both will get updates but this is to decide which is first.

Nope, you're wrong on that part.

This 'poll' is to decide which update to do FIRST, whichever one doesn't win will be done after the winning update is completed. So he is right.

He's implicating that if the base update doesn't get done first it wont happen because it will be put off. That's just what I got from it.

Quote from: medchiller on September 07, 2013, 09:31:42 PM

Quote from: Cooky on September 07, 2013, 09:29:13 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 07, 2013, 09:22:56 PM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 07, 2013, 08:14:26 PM

Quote from: leonidsa on September 07, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
I changed my mind i vote 4 bais,i wanna to not only 1 mode on this game was active,all game modes deserve updates.

They both will get updates but this is to decide which is first.

Nope, you're wrong on that part.

This 'poll' is to decide which update to do FIRST, whichever one doesn't win will be done after the winning update is completed. So he is right.

He's implicating that if the base update doesn't get done first it wont happen because it will be put off. That's just what I got from it.

they will work on base after updating sector, if sector comes first..
people that gets their lvl will maybe not grind or grind idk, if base comes first..

base comes first, people play the mode sometime, and just let it die after..
sector is more lvl, lvl means more exp, membership= x2 exp + higher lvls = money.
need more items and items = money too.

base= fun?
sector is fun too :)

Quote from: Robocop7ant on September 07, 2013, 09:54:18 PM

Quote from: medchiller on September 07, 2013, 09:31:42 PM

Quote from: Cooky on September 07, 2013, 09:29:13 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 07, 2013, 09:22:56 PM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 07, 2013, 08:14:26 PM

Quote from: leonidsa on September 07, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
I changed my mind i vote 4 bais,i wanna to not only 1 mode on this game was active,all game modes deserve updates.

They both will get updates but this is to decide which is first.

Nope, you're wrong on that part.

This 'poll' is to decide which update to do FIRST, whichever one doesn't win will be done after the winning update is completed. So he is right.

He's implicating that if the base update doesn't get done first it wont happen because it will be put off. That's just what I got from it.

they will work on base after updating sector, if sector comes first..
people that gets their lvl will maybe not grind or grind idk, if base comes first..

base comes first, people play the mode sometime, and just let it die after..
sector is more lvl, lvl means more exp, membership= x2 exp + higher lvls = money.
need more items and items = money too.

base= fun?
sector is fun too :)

why cant they just update base and let people see how fun it is

Big difference between fun and rewarding.

If base had the same rewarding system as sector then base would be the first thing you look at when you log on.

^ What med said but I know from a good source that it won't happen ever if it doesn't get first nod. So yea kiss base good bye and PvP has been long dead with the exception of holo rooms that fellow guildies put up just for sheer lolz. If sector goes first might as well make it as if it's a sector only game.

We wouldn't forget about it. It would still happen.

2nd choice.

1 Vote For Base XD

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 08, 2013, 03:06:03 AM
(because I think corr or lyfe said that base update will only take a week and so will sector)

You should quote official sources, not hardcore base backups.

From my estimate, I'd say sector will take maybe a week or two. Base will take up to a month, maybe two.

Quote from: Allie on September 08, 2013, 03:09:11 AM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 08, 2013, 03:06:03 AM
(because I think corr or lyfe said that base update will only take a week and so will sector)

You should quote official sources, not hardcore base backups.

From my estimate, I'd say sector will take maybe a week or two. Base will take up to a month, maybe two.

Sorry but our dedication with base is a lot more efficient, we'll finish our part in a heartbeat. You guys just gotta do the greasework (model editing). Then voila.

i'd like to change my vote due to a misundertstanding. if both updates come eventually then sector is probably the best choice to make since it gives us something to do during the period to wait for base :)

Quote from: Corr on September 08, 2013, 03:43:51 AM

Quote from: Allie on September 08, 2013, 03:09:11 AM

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 08, 2013, 03:06:03 AM
(because I think corr or lyfe said that base update will only take a week and so will sector)

You should quote official sources, not hardcore base backups.

From my estimate, I'd say sector will take maybe a week or two. Base will take up to a month, maybe two.

Sorry but our dedication with base is a lot more efficient, we'll finish our part in a heartbeat. You guys just gotta do the greasework (model editing). Then voila.

Your part will take no more than a week. Your part is the easy part.

Probably, but it's also the most important. Without statistics and precision, we're screwed.

Will non members able to get exp from 8p? Cuz they will be 225 and to get exp on 8p you need 220/221.
So?  ;D ;D

Quote from: Corr on September 08, 2013, 07:50:23 AM
Probably, but it's also the most important. Without statistics and precision, we're screwed.

Unfortunately, that's also not true. Without "expert" tweaking, the update would still be reasonably released.

^ Sorry, you shouldn't have the right to vote with the way you're changing your mind constantly. lol

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 08, 2013, 06:45:46 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 08, 2013, 06:12:31 PM
^ Sorry, you shouldn't have the right to vote with the way you're changing your mind constantly. lol

c: I know. I just want the fastest one to update first. I am impatient.

That's because you play sector constantly and believe it's automatic. >.>

Sector!!! And then ofc base. More people sector than base.

What update leades?

Sector is the fastest done, make that happen first, then they all focus more on base after ;]

People grind for their lvl, and when they get bored, the base update is next ;P

ive been thinking the good ol'
you've been going with no update to sector for awhile,why does it matter if you dont get it as fast as possible


base revival will bring something new to the game,*expecting the base stuff to be good*
if you finish sectoring and have max level/best armor again and then go play base,how would that be fun
wouldnt you rather get some cool new base stuff,*again expecting good things*
and then sector will come and you can do both

if you didnt understand that
tl;dr




Get sector first
acheieve everythang
basically have nothing to do

Get base first. Sector second
have lots of fun for longer.

the reason base update should go first, is that sector updates always add new and more exciting content on the short run, but every sector update (unless it's something very well minded and not just adding level cap and armors) ends up being boring because people completed its challenges (just think about level cap in ob and now).

instead a decent base update could bring some fresh gameplay, and since nobody play base, it would last longer because base itself would be a new mode. less important, what serious and caring gaming company would leave his game half completed?

by the looks of it the sector update is well minded and can bring lots of new stuff, but since base has been ignored all this time, and sector would be still updated base would be the best option

update sector first it will take like 1-2 weeks like Allie said then we can enjoy the new sector stuff while waiting for the base update which could take up to a month. its common sense..  doing the faster one first to have something fun to do while the long one is being worked on. 

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
something to do while the long one is being worked on. 

Which is level 270 and the raid maps

Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 09, 2013, 11:33:41 AM

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
something to do while the long one is being worked on.  

Which is level 270 and the raid maps

Ah, right

Allie said it would be added in the next few days but its been 6 days, so I forgot about it

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 11:56:02 AM

Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 09, 2013, 11:33:41 AM

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
something to do while the long one is being worked on.  

Which is level 270 and the raid maps

Ah, right

Allie said it would be added in the next few days but its been 6 days, so I forgot about it

it's gonna be added in the middle of this week :P

Quote from: sirhamtaro on September 09, 2013, 06:03:06 AM
Get base first. Sector second
have lots of fun for longer.

But this is assuming that everyone who gets beyond the 239 sector will just jump to base. I can guarantee that less than 5% of the community will play base no matter what updates and what rewards come to it. This update is for the minority.

Quote from: Iridion on September 09, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
the reason base update should go first,
by the looks of it the sector update is well minded and can bring lots of new stuff, but since base has been ignored all this time, and sector would be still updated base would be the best option

But in terms of which to do first (including the fact that sector will be around 3x faster), it's what 95% of the community will play vs the remaining 5%. It's holding off the gameplay of the massive majority to satisfy the small minority that believe update means the other 95% will play.


I did make it a community vote, and will go through with it. Just want you guys to realize (based off your reasons) that it's not going to revive base or make it something all the high levels are gonna go play. It'll be a nice refreshing take on base that will make it more enjoyable for those that do. If you don't enjoy base now, you won't enjoy it after the update (most likely).

^wow if anyone still votes for base ill be pissed lol

Quote from: Allie on September 09, 2013, 03:27:13 PM

Quote from: sirhamtaro on September 09, 2013, 06:03:06 AM
Get base first. Sector second
have lots of fun for longer.

But this is assuming that everyone who gets beyond the 239 sector will just jump to base. I can guarantee that less than 5% of the community will play base no matter what updates and what rewards come to it. This update is for the minority.

Quote from: Iridion on September 09, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
the reason base update should go first,
by the looks of it the sector update is well minded and can bring lots of new stuff, but since base has been ignored all this time, and sector would be still updated base would be the best option

But in terms of which to do first (including the fact that sector will be around 3x faster), it's what 95% of the community will play vs the remaining 5%. It's holding off the gameplay of the massive majority to satisfy the small minority that believe update means the other 95% will play.


I did make it a community vote, and will go through with it. Just want you guys to realize (based off your reasons) that it's not going to revive base or make it something all the high levels are gonna go play. It'll be a nice refreshing take on base that will make it more enjoyable for those that do. If you don't enjoy base now, you won't enjoy it after the update (most likely).

They enjoy it, they just don't play it because they believe themselves to suck. you're going to suck at something if you try it the first time. Only a small portion of people get it right the first time in anything.

Base is winning anyways in votes so please don't curve anything.

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
update sector first it will take like 1-2 weeks like Allie said then we can enjoy the new sector stuff while waiting for the base update which could take up to a month. its common sense..  doing the faster one first to have something fun to do while the long one is being worked on. 

agree

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
They enjoy it, they just don't play it because they believe themselves to suck.

I think you are wrong

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
They enjoy it, they just don't play it because they believe themselves to suck. you're going to suck at something if you try it the first time. Only a small portion of people get it right the first time in anything.

Base is winning anyways in votes so please don't curve anything.

Honestly, I don't and really never did enjoy it. Because you enjoy it doesn't mean everyone else does, and the only reason they don't play is because they can't play good.

I don't want to skew honest votes, but it seems like some of those voting for base are confused at what it entails. If they really want it, go for it, I'm counting their votes just as much. I'm not reviving base, nor am I doing a massive revamp. It's getting an update and stat tweak, it's not going to bring in many (or any) new players, so if you're voting so base becomes a viable mode to play, you're voting wrong.

I don't like Base because it takes so much time and strategy.

I think we should revote now that Allie has released this information about how the base mode update isn't going to be what people thought it was going to be.

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 04:34:52 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 04:29:58 PM
They enjoy it, they just don't play it because they believe themselves to suck.

I think you are wrong

That's pretty much how it is for me. I'd play base if the skill difference wasn't so damn high between the people actively playing base and me.

Quote from: Selene on September 09, 2013, 04:38:38 PM
I don't like Base because it takes so much time and strategy.

Strategy is what makes Base extraordinarily fun.

Quote from: Eat4two on September 09, 2013, 05:01:06 PM

Quote from: Selene on September 09, 2013, 04:38:38 PM
I don't like Base because it takes so much time and strategy.

Strategy is what makes Base extraordinarily fun.

well with the new sector update there will be a lot of strategy in sector too so gg sector wins

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
update sector first it will take like 1-2 weeks like Allie said then we can enjoy the new sector stuff while waiting for the base update which could take up to a month. its common sense..  doing the faster one first to have something fun to do while the long one is being worked on. 

but bvb is not even close to being updated as much as sector and needs more updating while sector can go on withouth tweaking for more time

Also, don't need 95% of the remaining players to base, sector is already doing that, curving the amount to make it say 70(sector), 25(base), 5(pvp)

Quote from: qolderman on September 08, 2013, 01:30:48 PM
Will non members able to get exp from 8p? Cuz they will be 225 and to get exp on 8p you need 220/221.
So?  ;D ;D

Everyone learns the same shit just takes time like everything else.

If you don't have a brain and quick reaction timing then go on playing sector lol. For those who want an actual challenge against a player, here you go you couldn't ask for anything better than what Fira said.

You can double vote all you want, tomorrow is the update, base won in total votes. Gg. Play it, play enough of it to get good at it, see how others play, adapt to situation, learn. Problem solved you will now know as much as the other player once you see how they play. You have the necessary items to do what they do (maybe better because you have membership and higher armor).

Opinions and assholes, everyone has them. Not everyone uses them, anybody can learn from them, but not everybody will choose too. You can be stubborn, or you can be open, but no matter what you do, it's all up to you.

Quote from: qolderman on September 09, 2013, 05:16:31 PM

Quote from: qolderman on September 08, 2013, 01:30:48 PM
Will non members able to get exp from 8p? Cuz they will be 225 and to get exp on 8p you need 220/221.
So?  ;D ;D

yes

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 05:16:31 PMtomorrow is the update

Unfortunately, I said mid of next week is goal/estimate (which was planned for wednesday, not tuesday either way). Meteor's not done with the new sets yet.

At this point, assuming meteor gives me the sets on friday, release date is set for Sunday, with possible bug fixes and nerfs in the remaining week before the new voted update is started. (Voting ends on patch day, though).

Also, the new raids (which I'm assuming won't be completed for at least a month) require a substantially higher amount of strategy than Hackenn Ruins. I'm fully expecting these raids to require nerfs, but starting out they will be full on huge difficulty.

Allie already came out and said the update isn't gonna bring more players, isn't gonna revive base, its just so u and ur base pals minority aren't being ignored - stop acting like this base update will make people see the light and all come play base because it wont.

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 05:16:31 PM
If you don't have a brain and quick reaction timing then go on playing sector lol.

*cough* Ahem *cough*


Not to be mean but... ok person who has the capability to do BvB with his amazing reaction time and brain but is slow at sector.  ::)


There is a difference in mindlessly playing Sector and those who can actually do good at it.  While yes you are right brainless people with slow reaction times can do sector, it also requires those who can plan out a strategy on a map and the reaction time in order to complete it in the fastest time possible. That is why BvB and Sector is so different, BvB depending on the opponents / team is mostly about brains / reaction time while Sector can incorporate all the combinations of dumb to smart and slow reaction to fast reaction, while being happy with their nice little "win" reward, rather than constantly losing at BvB and rage quitting. ::)

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
Allie already came out and said the update isn't gonna bring more players

what i say isn't fact. It's common sense and logic. But that doesn't mean it's what's gonna happen.
A vote is a vote, and I will be working on whatever is voted for. My sole thing I want people to think about is what they're voting for, because their reasons given are incorrect.

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 05:13:58 PM

Quote from: Eat4two on September 09, 2013, 05:01:06 PM

Quote from: Selene on September 09, 2013, 04:38:38 PM
I don't like Base because it takes so much time and strategy.

Strategy is what makes Base extraordinarily fun.

well with the new sector update there will be a lot of strategy in sector too so gg sector wins

Ya sure, combo, combo, merc push something, trans, combo combo blah blah blah. upper spam stuff, max out armor so you can kill easier blah blah blah.

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
Allie already came out and said the update isn't gonna bring more players, isn't gonna revive base, its just so u and ur base pals minority aren't being ignored - stop acting like this base update will make people see the light and all come play base because it wont.

Opinions.
You said mid of next week a week before. Voting is done man, not like everyone needs sector to change since 72% of the people playing it can't even compete on the high levels cause of difficulty. You're making the sector update specifically for top tier guilds who actually sector non stop only to get a few points up on gp. Cooky is lv 170 and doesn't sector, only voting against it because he feels the need to stay on the side that feeds the hand. Feed it too less and it'll get bit off.

Ross is exception cause he's  already educated. Give a man a fish he'll be full for a day, teach a man how to fish and he'll be full for a lifetime.

Quote from: Allie on September 09, 2013, 05:20:49 PM

Quote from: qolderman on September 09, 2013, 05:16:31 PM

Quote from: qolderman on September 08, 2013, 01:30:48 PM
Will non members able to get exp from 8p? Cuz they will be 225 and to get exp on 8p you need 220/221.
So?  ;D ;D

yes

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 05:16:31 PMtomorrow is the update

Unfortunately, I said mid of next week is goal/estimate (which was planned for wednesday, not tuesday either way). Meteor's not done with the new sets yet.

At this point, assuming meteor gives me the sets on friday, release date is set for Sunday, with possible bug fixes and nerfs in the remaining week before the new voted update is started. (Voting ends on patch day, though).

Also, the new raids (which I'm assuming won't be completed for at least a month) require a substantially higher amount of strategy than Hackenn Ruins. I'm fully expecting these raids to require nerfs, but starting out they will be full on huge difficulty.

ahhhh yeaaah!!

First sector plsss!!! ty

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 05:35:48 PM
Opinions.

A lot of the stuff you have been saying is your own opinions that you are attempting to present as facts and no one has made a big deal out of it, and yet you have the nerve to point out that my post was 'opinions' ? Look at your own posts.. smh (Don't make me go and quote every time you have done this cause I really cant be bothered).

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 05:35:48 PM
Cooky is lv 170 and doesn't sector, only voting against it because he feels the need to stay on the side that feeds the hand. Feed it too less and it'll get bit off.

and this is just the stupidest thing you have said yet. You don't know a thing about me Corr, and yet you talk like this is a fact. The reason I want sector to win is because not only do I feel it will be better for the game then the base update, but because the new raids may give me some motivation to level up and actually play sector and grind with others so I can get a higher level and join the fun. .

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 05:47:19 PM

A lot of the stuff you have been saying is your own opinions that you are attempting to present as facts and no one has made a big deal out of it, and yet you have the nerve to point out that my post was 'opinions' ? Look at your own posts.. smh (Don't make me go and quote every time you have done this cause I really cant be bothered).

and this is just the stupidest thing you have said yet. You don't know a thing about me Corr, and yet you talk like this is a fact. The reason I want sector to win is because not only do I feel it will be better for the game then the base update, but because the new raids may give me some motivation to level up and actually play sector and grind with others so I can get a higher level and join the fun. .

1. Go for it.
2. Just like fira said, I'm presenting as fact, and I've showed enough evidence and explanations as well as everyone else who's educated.
3. Yes, all are opinions.
4. You're a janitor, have a severe amount of acne on your face, and you are a Michael Vick fan.3 things about you I know. All I need too to turn the blind eye like most do about base.
5. May or may not. Again, if not definite, its opinion and may or may not happen.

Keep goin I got all month.

haha none of that stuff has to do with bout cheetah so whats your point?? 

you don't know a thing about me on bout cheetah but you talked about me and my whole opinion on this issue like you are inside my head when you aren't and aren't even close, I just want you to know that and wish you would stop pretending to know everything (or for all I know you have convinced yourself you do know everything). You don't. And if you continue to make foolish claims you will only continue to look foolish.

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
haha none of that stuff has to do with bout cheetah so whats your point?? 

you don't know a thing about me on bout cheetah but you talked about me and my whole opinion on this issue like you are inside my head when you aren't and aren't even close, I just want you to know that and wish you would stop pretending to know everything (or for all I know you have convinced yourself you do know everything). You don't. And if you continue to make foolish claims you will only continue to look foolish.

I totally agree with u cooky

I think drama is starting

No why's please, senseless words. Drama begets more drama.

Only agree and disagree no explanation is needed because no reason is given because people only believe absolute but not in between the lines.

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 06:03:01 PM

Quote from: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 05:47:19 PM

A lot of the stuff you have been saying is your own opinions that you are attempting to present as facts and no one has made a big deal out of it, and yet you have the nerve to point out that my post was 'opinions' ? Look at your own posts.. smh (Don't make me go and quote every time you have done this cause I really cant be bothered).

and this is just the stupidest thing you have said yet. You don't know a thing about me Corr, and yet you talk like this is a fact. The reason I want sector to win is because not only do I feel it will be better for the game then the base update, but because the new raids may give me some motivation to level up and actually play sector and grind with others so I can get a higher level and join the fun. .

1. Go for it.
2. Just like fira said, I'm presenting as fact, and I've showed enough evidence and explanations as well as everyone else who's educated.
3. Yes, all are opinions.
4. You're a janitor, have a severe amount of acne on your face, and you are a Michael Vick fan.3 things about you I know. All I need too to turn the blind eye like most do about base.
5. May or may not. Again, if not definite, its opinion and may or may not happen.

Keep goin I got all month.

Michael Vick is good but great

Sector.
There isn't many ways you could completely improve a pvp mode.
I have my shield up just incase people throw a bunch of facts at me.

Quote from: quitms on September 09, 2013, 09:40:09 PM
Sector.
There isn't many ways you could completely improve a pvp mode.
I have my shield up just incase people throw a bunch of facts at me.

>knows nothing about how bvb was in bots
>knows nothing about how current bvb mode is flawed
>there aren't many ways to improve a pvp mode

-.-

i Vote for sector :)

He said he'd stop updating the votes.

 :)
sector is first.

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 10, 2013, 01:00:23 PM

Quote from: Meteor on September 10, 2013, 12:43:23 PM
He said he'd stop updating the votes.

then someone make a updated one :(?

If you want to know, do it yourself.

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 10, 2013, 03:22:32 PM

Quote from: Selene on September 10, 2013, 03:06:43 PM

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 10, 2013, 01:00:23 PM

Quote from: Meteor on September 10, 2013, 12:43:23 PM
He said he'd stop updating the votes.

then someone make a updated one :(?

If you want to know, do it yourself.

effort .-.

Takes a little more effort than sector, doesn't it? Unless you are *gasp* forgive me father for I have sinned with these words I'm about to type onto my keyboard. Unless you are a leecher? In which no shits or effort was given in anything.

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 10, 2013, 10:43:53 PM

Quote from: Corr on September 10, 2013, 07:42:31 PM
Takes a little more effort than sector, doesn't it? Unless you are *gasp* forgive me father for I have sinned with these words I'm about to type onto my keyboard. Unless you are a leecher? In which no ****s or effort was given in anything.

Why did you even post this?

yea seriously, and why was this post even accepted?  no point but to cause drama


anyway, looks like base wins  :(

Hoping the update is tmr  ::)

Quote from: nanak tatum on September 10, 2013, 11:04:48 PM
Maybe. If so good for base. But there is still one more day I believe.

I mentioned at least 4 times in this thread the vote will be done when the update's released. Current goal is Sunday.

Quote from: jinhongzhu on September 10, 2013, 11:12:55 PM
Hoping the update is tmr  ::)

Quote from: Allie on September 09, 2013, 05:20:49 PM

Quote from: qolderman on September 09, 2013, 05:16:31 PM

Quote from: qolderman on September 08, 2013, 01:30:48 PM
Will non members able to get exp from 8p? Cuz they will be 225 and to get exp on 8p you need 220/221.
So?  ;D ;D

yes

Quote from: Corr on September 09, 2013, 05:16:31 PMtomorrow is the update

Unfortunately, I said mid of next week is goal/estimate (which was planned for wednesday, not tuesday either way). Meteor's not done with the new sets yet.

At this point, assuming meteor gives me the sets on friday, release date is set for Sunday, with possible bug fixes and nerfs in the remaining week before the new voted update is started. (Voting ends on patch day, though).

Also, the new raids (which I'm assuming won't be completed for at least a month) require a substantially higher amount of strategy than Hackenn Ruins. I'm fully expecting these raids to require nerfs, but starting out they will be full on huge difficulty.

here is the answer... k i saw now she said this, anyway here is the post where she said

Quote from: bapoor98 on September 11, 2013, 12:16:08 AM
All for base

please post this on your main.

Base

BASE!

IGN: DaRkNesS_1

Base

Ign: MedicaL

Sector
MrDucky38

Quote from: kile4422 on September 12, 2013, 12:58:01 AM
I vote sector.

Post on your main account, sir. We are not stupid.

Alt's don't count as votes, sorry. lmao

Sector. ::)

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 10, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Exe/nemano9988's sector vote wasn't counted/added, how many others weren't ?

mine wasnt counted. i want sector.

Quote from: droid zylon1 on September 12, 2013, 02:56:57 PM

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 10, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Exe/nemano9988's sector vote wasn't counted/added, how many others weren't ?

mine wasnt counted. i want sector.

Everyone's was counted with the exception of alternate accounts that some fools used.

Just wasn't posted but latest update shows..... You can read the few pages back for that result.

Quote from: droid zylon1 on September 12, 2013, 02:56:57 PM

Quote from: Danniieeooo on September 10, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Exe/nemano9988's sector vote wasn't counted/added, how many others weren't ?

mine wasnt counted. i want sector.

it has been said more than once that cooky stopped updating his post with votes

um, so like yeah - base.

Base.

Quote from: Iridion on September 12, 2013, 08:19:42 PM
it has been said more than once that cooky stopped updating his post with votes

thank you

Can't wait for tomorrow release. ::)  ::)  ::)

The day after my mem runs out  8)

it's tomorrow???????

tomorrow night probablyyyyyy

Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 14, 2013, 12:30:48 PM
tomorrow night probablyyyyyy

cant waitttttt

Quote from: qolderman on September 14, 2013, 12:32:34 PM

Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 14, 2013, 12:30:48 PM
tomorrow night probablyyyyyy

cant waitttttt
[/quote
xd me toooooooooooooooooo

Quote from: qolderman on September 14, 2013, 09:49:10 AM
it's tomorrow???????

tomorrow but no promises

Hey,i am so glad to see you guys working so hard on this game and watching it succeed in such great proportions great job staff and players as always, Good Luck Have Fun.



Sincerely -THE_SOUL- 

P.S The updates sound awesome and stuff but well the level caps will require more sector level don't you think? anyways that's my opinion so....UPDATES YAY!

"Well, this past week Corr has gotten me to start playing base with him and a few others. I've always disliked base, for really no reasons other than "I'm not good at it" or "It takes too long".

The first day we played, he taught me the basics. Such as merc pushing, how to be relentless when playing, how to lure mercs to get to the opponents side of the spawn, spacing, where to use trans and how to use it effectively.

When that game was over, I looked at the score screen to see how I did. Well it wasn't that good at all actually. It takes time though, to put the advice Corr gave me, and what I already know to get better at it. It's actually not that long to start getting the hang of it.

On the second training day Corr got me hooked. We had a 1v1 that day for practice then a 4v4 game if I can remember correctly. We did about a total of four 1v1's and maybe three or four 4v4's, in my week of "Base Boot camp".

Each game we played, I felt like I was getting better, and I was too. I could sense I was helping more, even if it didn't show on the score screen or it did. Yes, sometimes there's that move that can make you be like "How the hell did he do that" and make you get a little mad. But you now know what to look out for and try to stop it from happening again.

I always thought that I would hate base and would never play it, but I never gave it my full 100% dedication to it, to see if I like it or not and then judge it on my own opinion. Now that I can actually do something in base, I can give my honest opinion on it, and I love base.

I just checked with Corr, he said if you're willing to try, ask him.


Thanks for reading  Smiley"

-CodehPurple.

i herd basers are nicer people irl 8)

Corr teach every1!

Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 15, 2013, 12:20:05 AM
Corr teach every1!

best new baser Z!!!!!
z u r good as jc maybe even the legs of jc

Is the patch going to occur exactly at 12 am?

Sector  (*_*)
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