Ya, it's __Lyfe__, and old friend of mine. We used to BvB together during Acclaim BOTS!!.

Guild thread updated so it's readable. Allie was drunk/high when writing it.

Discuss is something I'd like to do; however, Allie loves World of Warcraft a bit too much for this to occur any time soon .

In short, simply because someone is labeled as "staff", doesn't mean they are always going to be perfect. Expect mistakes. Don't expect us to demote any one staff member for making these mistakes.

Locked.

Everyone's opinion was dually noted.

I lurb doing that glitch ;3.

Mo, if you can vectorize so professionally, you can find a way to fix my spelling errors >.<.

1) I've had some recent complaints regarding certain guilds, which shall remain nameless to mitigate drama, attempting to "steal" members from other guilds through gigas, membership incentives, coin items and so on. From this point forward, any evidence forthcoming regarding this matter will result in a permanent ban for those found responsible for violating this rule (forum and in-game).

2) Also, there is quite a bit of passive trolling/inflammatory remarks going around as well. This will stop, and, if those players who have a history of this continue, they will be muted for a week. Moreover, if, upon their return, these players further break this rule, their forum account will be banned and their in-game account will receive equal treatment (a permanent ban).

For those of you who wish to view the rules directly, please click on the following link: http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,6256 (rules 16 and 17).

Here at Zylon Gaming, we wish to protect our members from the few players with surreptitious motives -- the subsequent rules will allow and maintain this protection.

Kind regards,

Optimism

Also, I'm going to start a base team.

Sanctuary's 4v4 base team that existed during Acclaim's BOTS!! was the best 4v4 teams, beating dahulk, pulkit and corr, all on the same team :].

<3 Lyfe and Davey (forget who the other guy was, but he was great at defense [FAK MY BAD MEMORY].

So, I'll train people when they step up to volunteer to learn. Preferably all of you in the same room. I refuse to do 1 on 1 base lessons (takes too long).

Alright, I'll take the +TD that allows 200 damage every hit, and you can have the +speed and full TA, so I can smack you around for 600-650 during the meta game.

I'm down with that.

Get on?

Also, remove that picture from your avatar. If you're not willing to do it at my request, then I'll have someone do it for you.

Quote from: Yz on October 03, 2012, 01:35:35 PM

Quote from: Optimism on October 03, 2012, 01:25:08 PM
I don't remember bashing anyone outside of Sanctuary who was formerly in the guild (I may have -- I was pretty immature back then).

Tricky, cool video -- you're sporting TD to the point where you're hit 250 and I'm hit 600s via trans, and, you nearly died in low red HP.

LOL. Just like Terminator. Also, it's evident that your lag is also one sided (you just abuse lag 100 percent and have no adaptation or SKILL when fighting it).

way to attempt to put more teens down on the internet, collegeboy

And yes I used TD against this member-flag nub with all dat elektra 30 levels above me.
inb4 tricky has ego you asked to see vid and it was of me beating you and keeping up a solid fight on a lower level handicapped bot

Get on, go full TA. I'm Dark Surge.

"All dat elektra"?

You're wearing the same set I am. Moreover, member flags do nothing compared to TD flags. I'd rather negate 60 percent of the damage incoming, than have a slight speed advantage.

You're attempt to platform yourself as "handicapped" is laughable. I'm the only one with a disadvantage.

Here's the kicker. Notice in your OTHER videos, you're sporting member flags. LOL. Putting TD on for me and then pretending you're at a handicap is commical. LOL.

I don't remember bashing anyone outside of Sanctuary who was formerly in the guild (I may have -- I was pretty immature back then).

Tricky, cool video -- you're sporting TD to the point where you're hit 250 and I'm hit 600s via trans, and, you nearly died in low red HP.

LOL. Just like Terminator, the laggy TD abuser. Also, it's evident that your lag is also one sided (you just abuse lag 100 percent and have no adaptation or SKILL when fighting it).

So I've learned two things, you abuse TD to avoid losses and you abuse one sided lag (rather than both opponents having to deal with lag, ONLY your opponent has to deal with it).

Thanks for posting that video and making yourself look that much worse than I already thought you were :].

Quote from: Yz on October 03, 2012, 12:09:24 AM
what the **** opti you & allie have been putting people down and putting others on pedistals based on how you judge their pvp skills since forever, and when you put them down you put them down hard

and you say there's no stress, only fun

not causing trouble to sanct but simply agreeing with poke. i can also see it as stressful if there's all these rules to follow

With regard to your signature quote:

1) Can you give me that signature from the history pages you found that from?

2) There are two types of lag (mutual and one sided). In the case of mutual lag, both players have to fight comparable lag. This being the case, the fighting of this "lag" is considered a skill. Moreover, there are players who lag to everyone (terminator), and, in this case, these people are well versed in fighting this lag (the lag was mutual and, at times, one sided). The other type of lag -- one sided lag -- offers countless advantages when dealing with your opponents. These advantages range from static hits to what we used to call "delay" hits, etc. The only way to determine this, is if you post a video of your matches. Go ahead and do this for the community, so we can see for ourselves what type of lag you abuse to win matches.

I've seen you play without your lag. You're not skilled. You don't understand timing, basic blocking, meta game stalking/running, etc. I played four games with you when your lag was completely gone. To be blunt, you're very, very bad. Attempt to re-write the history of our matches all you like -- you know and I know these matches occurred along with your statement, "hold on, let me get off the good CPU and play on the trashy one".

Let me be clear, if you post a video and it displays you combating equal lag -- the lag that you put out -- then I will lump you in with this form of skill (knowing how to fight lag). I know how to do it. I've fought countless matches with some of the most abusive lag in the game (even worse than yours). However, this label of "skill" won't go anywhere beyond your ability to combat lag with your poor connection. You fall apart in lag free matches.

Quote from: Pokeh on October 03, 2012, 12:00:07 AM
they were bad games for both of us weren't we

btw i'd stay if i was serious and competitive. zeal's the complete opposite xD

Quote from: Optimism on October 02, 2012, 11:40:35 PM

Also, this should only apply to members who are trusted/known to show high loyalty to the guild (not players like Pokeh, for example).

I hate the word loyalty. It's like you're subduing yourself to someone else. A part of your nature/culture/life is devoted to a certain thing just so you can indulge in the little bit of happiness your master/boss/owner/guild leader in this case gets.

corr's chill. guilds not nearly as competitive as it was in old bots. it's more of a friendly guild with 2 guys who simply decide if your active enough to be in

A fare enough point from your perspective.

However, the reason loyalty is valued by leaders is because all the switching around/keeping guild members happy becomes a bit stressful and forces time down the drain, having to acquire new members, train and introduce them to certain aspects you were already trained for.

So we, as leaders, lose what you described when a player leaves a guild in under a week.

Objectivity.

Also, in what way are we competitive? We're simply training people to introduce a bit more depth to PvP here at BoutCheetah. There isn't much stress there, other than learning from each other and having a bit of fun in FFAs/1v1s.

Stress? More like fun.

I was wondering why the client was updating. Now I know! :].

Quote from: Pokeh on October 02, 2012, 11:49:59 PM
guild is boring and full of bad eggs with decent skill

leaders are never on and if they are they're afk in lobby or in locked pvp rooms

both you and allie take pvp way seriously

'this is called the blockimus-glieicha, also known as the block glitch'

so ya off to zeal gl tho

We take PvP too seriously? Weren't you the one begging for Allie not to post some random videos of our games?

Given that, it seems you're the only person taking PvP too seriously.