To all admiins and staff i with all of the bout cheetah players are annoied with this update. Taking away coins from matches and making then only avalible to buy from other players where they are way over prised. Taking tcs from shop and nerfing gigas from items u get in the sector games. It's a joke its not fun no one likes it but yet you still think its better for bots. It's not, no one gains from this update and it's just not fun to play the game. I am asking for a vote to be held to turn the game back to its former ways and make us players happy. Thank you please read and get back to my asap.
I agree in its entirety! :)
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 09:14:24 PM
To all admiins and staff i with all of the bout cheetah players are annoied with this update. Taking away coins from matches and making then only avalible to buy from other players where they are way over prised. Taking tcs from shop and nerfing gigas from items u get in the sector games. It's a joke its not fun no one likes it but yet you still think its better for bots. It's not, no one gains from this update and it's just not fun to play the game. I am asking for a vote to be held to turn the game back to its former ways and make us players happy. Thank you please read and get back to my asap.
-1 It needed to be done for the economy. The economy was freaking shot. Altough.....I think a better solution would have been to erase all coins from the game and start over with a new system...
you wanna know why the economy is shot? Cause of the damn zylon shop the just bought people in the game gigas who didn't earn jack crap.
Actually the economy has been shot for a long time. Long before the Zylon shop was even here. Because the Zylon shop adds more items and no gigas it should be lowering the prices of things.
Items=sell and when u sell u get gigas.....
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 09:24:10 PM
Items=sell and when u sell u get gigas.....
Yeah, but someone already had the gigas, and buying from zylon shop doesn't actually generate more gigas, it just generates items...
It's like I have to repeat myself a thousand times, but yet I knew this would happen (not everyone agrees on updates). We did this because the coins people had/have is crazy and completely ruining the game. We did this because we need to drop the coin economy and make it more stable. Taking it away from Sector is the best way possible to drop the coin economy. When it becomes more stable, we will slowly reintroduce coins back into the game, but for now you will have to mange with the new way.
The reality is that not everyone is going to like the updates we bring to the game and of course we know there is a risk, but everything we do is a risk.
Just think about it, coins will eventually come back, but hey look on the bright side coin value have increased.
Another problem is that there is no way to burn gigas in this game besides multipliers, guild add-ons, and combining coupons. And most players don't spend their money on these things. There need to be more expensive things in the shop that ppl are actually willing to buy, so as to burn some of the in-game currency....
I cant buy memb flags :( :( :( :( :( :(
Quote from: Thornz on April 25, 2013, 09:35:02 PM
Another problem is that there is no way to burn gigas in this game besides multipliers, guild add-ons, and combining coupons. And most players don't spend their money on these things. There need to be more expensive things in the shop that ppl are actually willing to buy, so as to burn some of the in-game currency....
I have been thinking about this as well. An idea I had that would reduce Gigas and reduce coins (slower) would be to have coins trade able (in the shop) for an unruly price of Gigas. No one would buy 100 coins for 10m gigas (just an example) unless they really needed it and no one in the right mind would stock up on them. In doing this it would also get rid of gigas via the shop. I know it would slightly slow the decrease of coins from the game but later this could be done to re-introduce coins after they have been reduced. It has some flaws but it's just an idea. :)
It has many flaws. The new interface is amazing i love it but the items of taking away these items have make so many players quit so theres no rime or reason into it. the eco is not bad people work for the coins and gigas it not free.
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
It has many flaws. The new interface is amazing i love it but the items of taking away these items have make so many players quit so theres no rime or reason into it. the eco is not bad people work for the coins and gigas it not free.
look at gigas/coins ranking top 5.
Eco is bad.
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
It has many flaws. The new interface is amazing i love it but the items of taking away these items have make so many players quit so theres no rime or reason into it. the eco is not bad people work for the coins and gigas it not free.
Please point out the flaws, so that I can think of ways to improve it. Idk about you but the economy of BC is horrible. People hardly work for their coins, I got 100k coins in less than and hour. When I played BoutCheetah before (years ago) you would get very few coins and you would have to make your decisions wisely about what to buy. Now it just seems that we can have all the transes, merc's, wings etc. we want.
ok i come back from a little break and so much changed.... Then how will we be able to even obtain coins?
Trading other players.
Quote from: Selene on April 25, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
Just think about it, coins will eventually come back, but hey look on the bright side coin value have increased.
yea i did think about that then i thougth that noone will buy my coins because there are few use of them.
heads everyone that can pay for a bunch of coins has a perm head.
flags (mem flags you just need to buy once a month).and the others everyone has.
Guns: just few people buy few coin guns.
EF: takes a little of coins but you wont get a big amout of gigas.
II skills: few people buy them.
merc-transes: i think everyone has at least 1 year of them.
minibots: walker bros are all over the game and it will be easier to buy walkers because few people sell coins.
wings: i think it will be the most usefull thing for coins but they will be expensive.
Quote from: hur90 on April 25, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: Selene on April 25, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
Just think about it, coins will eventually come back, but hey look on the bright side coin value have increased.
yea i did think about that then i thougth that noone will buy my coins because there are few use of them.
heads everyone that can pay for a bunch of coins has a perm head.
flags (mem flags you just need to buy once a month).and the others everyone has.
Guns: just few people buy few coin guns.
EF: takes a little of coins but you wont get a big amout of gigas.
II skills: few people buy them.
merc-transes: i think everyone has at least 1 year of them.
minibots: walker bros are all over the game and it will be easier to buy walkers because few people sell coins.
wings: i think it will be the most usefull thing for coins but they will be expensive.
Membership flags are gunna be big hitters just you wait. level 221's will want them and with no coins they will have to buy them from someone. Almost any sector player will buy II skills.
Quote from: medchiller on April 25, 2013, 10:37:33 PM
Quote from: hur90 on April 25, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: Selene on April 25, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
Just think about it, coins will eventually come back, but hey look on the bright side coin value have increased.
yea i did think about that then i thougth that noone will buy my coins because there are few use of them.
heads everyone that can pay for a bunch of coins has a perm head.
flags (mem flags you just need to buy once a month).and the others everyone has.
Guns: just few people buy few coin guns.
EF: takes a little of coins but you wont get a big amout of gigas.
II skills: few people buy them.
merc-transes: i think everyone has at least 1 year of them.
minibots: walker bros are all over the game and it will be easier to buy walkers because few people sell coins.
wings: i think it will be the most usefull thing for coins but they will be expensive.
Membership flags are gunna be big hitters just you wait. level 221's will want them and with no coins they will have to buy them from someone. Almost any sector player will buy II skills.
Almost everyone that I know uses charge II, and if they're used to it (like me) They're gonna hate switching to normal charge..
thornz thats like removed all gigas,exp&gps u cant remove some stuff or players will quit.
JUST DONT SPEND COINS
I HAVE 600K COINS WHICH IS CONSIDERED POOR WHICH LAST ABOUT 2.5 YEARS IN 1 YEAR SETS IF I DONT SELL THEM
WHATS THE BIG DEALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Quote from: Godz on April 25, 2013, 11:15:31 PM
thornz thats like removed all gigas,exp&gps u cant remove some stuff or players will quit.
Ik that it isn't a good solution. I can't figure out a good way to do that. Maybe take away 50% of everybody's coins or something...
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 25, 2013, 11:31:22 PM
let me guess you will be able to buy coins again for $$$
What would be the purpose of this update then?
Quote from: Madprox on April 25, 2013, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
It has many flaws. The new interface is amazing i love it but the items of taking away these items have make so many players quit so theres no rime or reason into it. the eco is not bad people work for the coins and gigas it not free.
look at gigas/coins ranking top 5.
Eco is bad.
Mod max dude look lol gigas 3 or top 5 are admins lol same goes for the coins to
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:38:24 PM
Quote from: Madprox on April 25, 2013, 10:17:36 PM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
It has many flaws. The new interface is amazing i love it but the items of taking away these items have make so many players quit so theres no rime or reason into it. the eco is not bad people work for the coins and gigas it not free.
look at gigas/coins ranking top 5.
Eco is bad.
Mod max dude look lol gigas 3 or top 5 are admins lol same goes for the coins to
I explained this to you in-game that its not spawned.
If someone is able to obtain max gigas multiple times, that shows the economy is terrible.
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 25, 2013, 11:46:16 PM
Quote from: Selene on April 25, 2013, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 25, 2013, 11:31:22 PM
let me guess you will be able to buy coins again for $$$
What would be the purpose of this update then?
so they can make more money
i wouldnt be surprised if they removed gigas now
anyways zylon shop ****ed up economy bad so they created the mess
The Zylon shop isn't ruining the economy....
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 25, 2013, 11:46:16 PM
Quote from: Selene on April 25, 2013, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 25, 2013, 11:31:22 PM
let me guess you will be able to buy coins again for $$$
What would be the purpose of this update then?
so they can make more money
i wouldnt be surprised if they removed gigas now
anyways zylon shop ****ed up economy bad so they created the mess
How is the Zylon Shop ****ing up the economy?
Selene you always get mad at us for swearing so plz dont flame......
You are so incredibly illogical it'd be hard to even argue with you.
But no, I don't respect your opinion. Not unless it's a solid, legitimate opinion. And yours isn't.
and selene thats such bs about not spawning ive talked to other gms and admins they tell me that if they ask for something they will get it spawned.
Allie how am i illogical your just afraid if we had a vote everyone would hate your updates.
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:53:14 PM
and selene thats such bs about not spawning ive talked to other gms and admins they tell me that if they ask for something they will get it spawned.
Yes that's true, but the thing is we cannot give it to anyone nor will it be on Rankings - it's removed.
Not you, the other guy.
And with that statement, you lost all credibility aswell.
Allie have a vote then if your not afraid. Selene I know you can't give the items away but if you dont' have to buy the items legit thats the reason the gms and admins all have a lot of gigas cus they don't have to pay for anything.
Players are selfish. Players are greedy. If it was up to the players, majority would rule tier 3 in the shop, and a spawn command.
It's up to a company to decide what's best for the game. I understand you were spoiled, but you have to learn to not be a brat someday. Our game has a worse economy than the US right now. I think this is a better strategy than wiping everything.
After all, would you prefer I delete all your gigas and coins? How about that vote, cause that's the alternative.
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
Allie have a vote then if your not afraid. Selene I know you can't give the items away but if you dont' have to buy the items legit thats the reason the gms and admins all have a lot of gigas cus they don't have to pay for anything.
I, Mater, Metoer, ZeroUH, and Spider don't have gigas nor coins spawned.
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
Allie have a vote then if your not afraid. Selene I know you can't give the items away but if you dont' have to buy the items legit thats the reason the gms and admins all have a lot of gigas cus they don't have to pay for anything.
Does not show on rankings... Derp ::)
Wtf stop flaming, You honestly players want t3 in shop....no its called working for astuff just like what everyone did in this game to get there items your just greedy for irl money and wont take a good opinion from anyone even if it would help this eco and game. This is a game with probs 50 active players so you really think the eco is the big problem, maybe you should start getting more customers first then worry about the other problems.
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 26, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
should just remove every in game currency and box drops since every rare is on zylon shop
yea and all the coin items in the in game shop should be turn to gigas raise the price on all but turn em to gigas then no one would need coins.
Quote from: Selene on April 26, 2013, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
Allie have a vote then if your not afraid. Selene I know you can't give the items away but if you dont' have to buy the items legit thats the reason the gms and admins all have a lot of gigas cus they don't have to pay for anything.
I, Mater, Metoer, ZeroUH, and Spider don't have gigas nor coins spawned.
^This, if anything most players are richer then me in gigas/coins. Lolz
idk why rebuck is complaining nobody really had to work hard for their coin/gigas/items it's always been pretty easy to get those things.
The t3 thing Allie said was an example showing how greedy ppl are like the crying for coins to be back.
Turning coin items to gigas wat omg back to youtube
Quote from: Selene on April 26, 2013, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
Allie have a vote then if your not afraid. Selene I know you can't give the items away but if you dont' have to buy the items legit thats the reason the gms and admins all have a lot of gigas cus they don't have to pay for anything.
I, Mater, Metoer, ZeroUH, and Spider don't have gigas nor coins spawned.
Yep, the only spawned items I own are the following: GM Set, Omniscient (Staff Set), Zylon Flags, and the GM Gun.
Pretty much what you usually get when you become a GM though.
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
Allie have a vote then if your not afraid. Selene I know you can't give the items away but if you dont' have to buy the items legit thats the reason the gms and admins all have a lot of gigas cus they don't have to pay for anything.
Actually many people don't have to pay for anything. I myself only pay for Member Flags and occasionally a II skill when I need it. I'm sure many other players can say the same things as there are many items that are OP + Perm.
E.G
MetoJack + Perm Jack (Heads)
Guild Flag (Flag)
Attack Bot V3, Dark Bot V3, Walker Bro (MiniBot)
Dark Meto (Gun)
Any EF.
So we're not rich because we're GM's.
It's because most of us have been playing the game for awhile to actually get these items during the events so we don't need to buy them after the event (as have many other players in this game).
Quote from: Rebuck on April 26, 2013, 12:03:42 AM
Wtf stop flaming, You honestly players want t3 in shop....no its called working for astuff just like what everyone did in this game to get there items your just greedy for irl money and wont take a good opinion from anyone even if it would help this eco and game. This is a game with probs 50 active players so you really think the eco is the big problem, maybe you should start getting more customers first then worry about the other problems.
Only if you could understand... First no one is flaming, second if we *did* have a vote everyone would choose "bring coins back to Sector" because they all want the easy way. The thing is this game is already easy compare to other games.
I don't know why you continue to argue. It's not like coins will be gone from Sector forever.
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 26, 2013, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 26, 2013, 12:07:03 AM
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 26, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
should just remove every in game currency and box drops since every rare is on zylon shop
yea and all the coin items in the in game shop should be turn to gigas raise the price on all but turn em to gigas then no one would need coins.
>economy is bad
>200 active players
i lol'd hard @ coin removal. its not going to do shit, it will remove like 1m gigas from game.
hyperbole
Quote from: Materger on April 26, 2013, 12:09:12 AM
Quote from: Selene on April 26, 2013, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
Allie have a vote then if your not afraid. Selene I know you can't give the items away but if you dont' have to buy the items legit thats the reason the gms and admins all have a lot of gigas cus they don't have to pay for anything.
I, Mater, Metoer, ZeroUH, and Spider don't have gigas nor coins spawned.
^This, if anything most players are richer then me in gigas/coins. Lolz
idk why rebuck is complaining nobody really had to work hard for their coin/gigas/items it's always been pretty easy to get those things.
The t3 thing Allie said was an example showing how greedy ppl are like the crying for coins to be back.
Turning coin items to gigas wat omg back to youtube
Why n ot turn everything to gigas it would put gigas into the shop where they don't go into another players hand and stop the flow of gigas from player to player and then you can take coins out of game.
Quote from: Selene on April 26, 2013, 12:09:47 AM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 26, 2013, 12:03:42 AM
Wtf stop flaming, You honestly players want t3 in shop....no its called working for astuff just like what everyone did in this game to get there items your just greedy for irl money and wont take a good opinion from anyone even if it would help this eco and game. This is a game with probs 50 active players so you really think the eco is the big problem, maybe you should start getting more customers first then worry about the other problems.
Only if you could understand... First no one is flaming, second if we *did* have a vote everyone would choose "bring coins back to Sector" because they all want the easy way. The thing is this game is already easy compare to other games.
I would vote against coins coming back, and so would most other high level players. IT IS BEST FOR THE ECONOMY.
Also, if you think that the wealthiest people in the game are only wealthy because they are staff, think again. FireY and I Love Money (both top 5 gigas) are both non-staff. And I'm pretty sure that I Love Money got most of his gigas by selling TCs that he bought with coins, because coins were sooooo easy to get ::)
Quote from: Rebuck on April 26, 2013, 12:12:38 AM
Quote from: Materger on April 26, 2013, 12:09:12 AM
Quote from: Selene on April 26, 2013, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 25, 2013, 11:58:08 PM
Allie have a vote then if your not afraid. Selene I know you can't give the items away but if you dont' have to buy the items legit thats the reason the gms and admins all have a lot of gigas cus they don't have to pay for anything.
I, Mater, Metoer, ZeroUH, and Spider don't have gigas nor coins spawned.
^This, if anything most players are richer then me in gigas/coins. Lolz
idk why rebuck is complaining nobody really had to work hard for their coin/gigas/items it's always been pretty easy to get those things.
The t3 thing Allie said was an example showing how greedy ppl are like the crying for coins to be back.
Turning coin items to gigas wat omg back to youtube
Why n ot turn everything to gigas it would put gigas into the shop where they don't go into another players hand and stop the flow of gigas from player to player and then you can take coins out of game.
Then we would have a gigas problem (which we do already).
I'm not going to post towards your posts anymore because you seem to fail at every time.
If you convert everything to gigas, doesn't that mess up gigas then [not saying it's not atm but, wouldn't it mess it more]
Wiping the game is gonna make players mad and there's no way to please everyone, so move on, heuehe
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 26, 2013, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: Rebuck on April 26, 2013, 12:07:03 AM
Quote from: Paroxysm on April 26, 2013, 12:04:04 AM
should just remove every in game currency and box drops since every rare is on zylon shop
yea and all the coin items in the in game shop should be turn to gigas raise the price on all but turn em to gigas then no one would need coins.
>economy is bad
>200 active players
i lol'd hard @ coin removal. its not going to do shit, it will remove like 1m gigas from game.
yup para im with you it will do jack shit and do nothing and selene the reason people play this game is cus it fun and easy.
Selene then stop posting on my thread and go away. Did i ask for you to post? nope.
I'm gonna go ahead and lock. It's turning to spam.
Your point is taken and noted, but invalid. What we did was necessary. I don't need you and paro spamming my forum with your opinion. If it was contained in one thread (in an orderly, non-harmful environment) where you actually didn't post like a dufus I'd be glad to let it stay. If you're ranting, let it be in the rants forum.
This is no place for spam.