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Title: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on June 30, 2013, 11:35:01 AM
Please.. it was such a popular event you said it was going to become an official members only event soon but then after the interface update its gone.. please add it back!
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: 123bomb123 on June 30, 2013, 05:53:16 PM
Yeah, I need to beat Cooky some more times.  8)

~ #1 Racer in Game.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: qolderman on June 30, 2013, 06:07:00 PM
it was really fun. i remember when i was 137 lvl, fatty patch, i played on max' race. it was very fun and now its gone  :'(
so +1, i want it back!1111
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 09, 2013, 12:54:35 PM
bump ..   

please add back race mode!
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: qolderman on September 09, 2013, 05:43:02 PM
Bring back race mode!!!!
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 08:49:02 AM
bring back race mode
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Madprox on September 28, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 08:49:02 AM
bring back race mode
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: qolderman on September 28, 2013, 09:51:45 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on September 28, 2013, 04:03:20 AM
Quote from: Allie on September 09, 2013, 05:43:02 PM
Bring back race mode!!!!
dafuq
Bring back race mode!!!!
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 09:54:28 AM
Quote from: Madprox on September 28, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 08:49:02 AM
bring back race mode
YES!! thanks for the support Max   :D
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: AGSPanda on September 28, 2013, 10:00:06 AM
Never played it but sounds fun and I would love to give it a go.
Bring back race mode!!!
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: loewe98 on September 28, 2013, 10:18:29 AM
Quote from: Madprox on September 28, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
Quote from: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 08:49:02 AM
bring back race mode
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 10:38:58 AM
 thanks everyone for your support      hopefully this will make Allie or Kenny add it back!
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Mario666 on September 28, 2013, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 08:49:02 AM
bring back race mode
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: qolderman on September 28, 2013, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: qolderman on September 09, 2013, 05:43:02 PM
Bring back race mode!!!!
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Materger on September 28, 2013, 09:47:47 PM
The thing about race mode is that it was never really officially one of the games modes , yes it was fun and lots of people liked it but from what I can remember you could only play race mode if cooky or another staff member was on. If race mode was made official there would need to be new maps with multiple traps or mobs that get in the way and there would be a legit count off in the beginning. To add all of this would take a great deal of time and it's not a main priority at the moment. Who knows if in the future a race mode may once again be apart of the game, but for now I don't think it will be here for a very long time.

Other things that would have to be set up for an official race mode-

Spawn points - to line up everyone fairly
new maps- a completely new map design
taking away the ability to attack other bots- since there will be a set speed I assume it would only be fair if you can't hit others to slow them down.


There may be many other things you can add. This was just what I think about it.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 09:56:26 PM
Materger what the heck are you talking about no one is asking for any of those things

we just want it back the way it was before, or maybe have it so anyone can use the mode (not just me and staff).

This would involve simply bringing back what we had before,

the race room tag (no enemies, map gives no experience)
the default speed room tag (all bots have the same speed)
the @endgame command  (ends the game)
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Materger on September 28, 2013, 10:00:41 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 09:56:26 PM
Materger what the heck are you talking about no one is asking for any of those things

we just want it back the way it was before, or maybe have it so anyone can use the mode (not just me and staff).

Yea, I know. It's pointless to have if it's not a real mode in my opinion. It's fun and all, but there isn't really any other reward for playing it. There's a reason it's no longer in the game.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: 123bomb123 on September 28, 2013, 10:03:40 PM
what materger is saying is that if it was to be reimplemented it would need update so it doesn't look sloppily done and unprofessional. Raid, survival and story - although ezr to make than a point system - all look complete and don't have things such as commands to end their game. why would a company want to have 4 professional game modes and one incomplete? It could be later on but maybe when Allie and Santa have time to do it. Like after the base update.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: Materger on September 28, 2013, 10:00:41 PM
Yea, I know. It's pointless to have if it's not a real mode in my opinion. It's fun and all, but there isn't really any other reward for playing it. There's a reason it's no longer in the game.

There is a reward and that's the daily events and prizes I will be giving out, getting to see yourself on youtube winning the race, trying to reach #1 on the standings, and maybe even get accepted into my guild. The community involvement will be huge and it will change Bout Cheetah for the better.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Materger on September 28, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: Materger on September 28, 2013, 10:00:41 PM
Yea, I know. It's pointless to have if it's not a real mode in my opinion. It's fun and all, but there isn't really any other reward for playing it. There's a reason it's no longer in the game.

There is a reward and that's the daily events and prizes I will be giving out, getting to see yourself on youtube winning the race, trying to reach #1 on the standings, and maybe even get accepted into my guild. The community involvement will be huge and it will change Bout Cheetah for the better.

This sounds more like a personal mode for your events if it brought back into the game. Like Z said "why would a company want to have 4 professional game modes and one incomplete?" If race mode comes back it should be back as a real completed game mode.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Madprox on September 28, 2013, 10:16:23 PM
Quote from: Materger on September 28, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
"why would a company want to have 4 professional game modes and one incomplete?"

Cooky,
Z and Materger have a point.
I must agree with this.
Don't get me wrong, I have always loved your race games, and you were a fine host.
But maybe you should take the past with you, as a memory, and let the future be for what it will be,
which may be a new kind of race mode, completely integrated in the game.
Then ask yourself: Would you be sad because it's nothing personal to you, or would you be happy and proud that you invented this and is now a main part of the game?
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
Quote from: Materger on September 28, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
This sounds more like a personal mode for your events if it brought back into the game. Like Z said "why would a company want to have 4 professional game modes and one incomplete?" If race mode comes back it should be back as a real completed game mode.

First of all its even a 'mode' it just happens to be called 'race mode'. It was originally just a room tag. Do we need to make every room tag a separate mode by your logic? no that's ridiculous. It doesn't need to be a 'real completed game mode' at all. Its just a room tag.

Quote from: Madprox on September 28, 2013, 10:16:23 PM
Cooky,
Z and Materger have a point.
I must agree with this.
Don't get me wrong, I have always loved your race games, and you were a fine host.
But maybe you should take the past with you, as a memory, and let the future be for what it will be,
which may be a new kind of race mode, completely integrated in the game.
Then ask yourself: Would you be sad because it's nothing personal to you, or would you be happy and proud that you invented this and is now a main part of the game?

No. Neither. If you guys start asking for some whole new game mode with new maps and official stuff its never ever going to be added, ever

For months I have begged Allie to add just the simple room tag back and she says she wont unless it gets more support

Those of you in favor of race mode but are saying it needs to be official and get new maps and official stuff, you are just eliminating the chances of Allie ever adding any sort of race mode at all.

Race mode was something great that hundreds of players enjoyed, it never got any complaints. No one cared if its not an official mode, its fun and exciting, and a change of pace from normal sector mode/pvp/base. People whisper me all the time asking when I am doing the next race. It pains me to see this. Bring back race mode the way it was before and this game will be even better.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Materger on September 28, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 28, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
Quote from: Materger on September 28, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
This sounds more like a personal mode for your events if it brought back into the game. Like Z said "why would a company want to have 4 professional game modes and one incomplete?" If race mode comes back it should be back as a real completed game mode.

First of all its even a 'mode' it just happens to be called 'race mode'. It was originally just a room tag. Do we need to make every room tag a separate mode by your logic? no that's ridiculous. It doesn't need to be a 'real completed game mode' at all. Its just a room tag.

Quote from: Madprox on September 28, 2013, 10:16:23 PM
Cooky,
Z and Materger have a point.
I must agree with this.
Don't get me wrong, I have always loved your race games, and you were a fine host.
But maybe you should take the past with you, as a memory, and let the future be for what it will be,
which may be a new kind of race mode, completely integrated in the game.
Then ask yourself: Would you be sad because it's nothing personal to you, or would you be happy and proud that you invented this and is now a main part of the game?

No. Neither. If you guys start asking for some whole new game mode with new maps and official stuff its never ever going to be added, ever

For months I have begged Allie to add just the simple room tag back and she says she wont unless it gets more support

Those of you in favor of race mode but are saying it needs to be official and get new maps and official stuff, you are just eliminating the chances of Allie ever adding any sort of race mode at all.

Race mode was something great that hundreds of players enjoyed, it never got any complaints. No one cared if its not an official mode, its fun and exciting, and a change of pace from normal sector mode/pvp/base. People whisper me all the time asking when I am doing the next race. It pains me to see this. Bring back race mode the way it was before and this game will be even better.


Cooky-"First of all its even a 'mode' it just happens to be called 'race mode'. It was originally just a room tag. Do we need to make every room tag a separate mode by your logic? no that's ridiculous. It doesn't need to be a 'real completed game mode' at all. Its just a room tag."

That just opens a gateway for all players to have the right to have their own game tag. I never said you had to make every room tag a mode. I think a race tag would be insignificant and pointless. If a whole new mode was made for "race mode" then it will have some value. The tag only allowed you to run around an empty room and end it after you ran the route set by the host which was you.If you want to continue the fantasy of it being a race mode you could play in Hoverbyte City in pvp since there's no mobs and ask players not to kill each other and at the end maybe everyone can suicide. There's many other maps in pvp, enjoy.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 03:14:46 AM
Quote from: Materger on September 28, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
That just opens a gateway for all players to have the right to have their own game tag.

What? Race Mode was never 'my own game tag'. It was added for all staff to use.

Quote from: Materger on September 28, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
I never said you had to make every room tag a mode. I think a race tag would be insignificant and pointless. If a whole new mode was made for "race mode" then it will have some value.

I pitched the idea to Kenny, he added it for me because I was going to be doing my race event and it was going to make things a lot easier. Not every persons event is deserving of their own room tag but Kenny and Allie saw that mine was something special and added it. In fact, before the interface update Allie had planned to make the race mode tag official and release it as a members only feature. It got removed for some reason, and I and others have been asking for it back ever since. I am constantly whispered asking about it. When is the next race Cooky? Why no more races? Me and my race event helped bring the community together and added a nice fun thing people could do besides the usual stuff most players have been doing since BOTS. Doesn't sound very insignificant to me.


Quote from: Materger on September 28, 2013, 11:00:32 PMIf you want to continue the fantasy of it being a race mode you could play in Hoverbyte City in pvp since there's no mobs and ask players not to kill each other and at the end maybe everyone can suicide. There's many other maps in pvp, enjoy.

That is a pathetic alternative. There are no PvP maps with good tracks, people would hit eachother, and most importantly, in PvP you cant run through players, you bump into them. That makes it no fun and nearly impossible to catch someone from behind who knows what they're doing.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: ghostkid17 on September 29, 2013, 03:18:54 AM
Quote from: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 03:14:46 AM
in PvP you cant run through players, you bump into them. That makes it no fun and nearly impossible to catch someone from behind who knows what they're doing.
Make it a team room, with inf hp. all of racers on one team and you on the other.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 03:20:09 AM
Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 29, 2013, 03:18:54 AM
Quote from: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 03:14:46 AM
in PvP you cant run through players, you bump into them. That makes it no fun and nearly impossible to catch someone from behind who knows what they're doing.
Make it a team room, with inf hp. all of racers on one team and you on the other.
HP is not the problem. Getting knocked down is. Plus I participate in a lot of the races too.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: hur9 on September 29, 2013, 03:20:49 AM
+1
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Allie on September 29, 2013, 09:22:19 PM
I think you're too self-absorbed in desiring it to be an official, public game.
If you wanted to do it to help the community, you can create your own alternative.
You played race mode before it was an official tag. You can do it now that its not anymore.

If you want an ez race, do what someone else in thread said. Team mode with one person on the opposite team.
Use tags in order to set everyones speed the same, and since everyones on the same team noone will be knocked down. Every game needs someone out of the game to determine the winner, so there's absolutely no issue with this except your downright self-absorbed, self-proclaimed right for us to take time out of our updates to give you something that you can create yourself.

Take this as a huge slap to your character and ego and start playing race mode if you want to. It's not coming back as an official game mode anytime soon. It is up to you to keep it alive, not us.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:32:47 PM
Quote from: Allie on September 29, 2013, 09:22:19 PM
You played race mode before it was an official tag. You can do it now that its not anymore.

Nope. You will find the first race ever recorded had the race tag in effect, go back and check the thread.

http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=28358.0

Yes you can do races in pvp mode but there are literally no good levels at all for races, so you really cant. The only decent one is power gen but that's it. No one wants to do the same one over and over. Plus, I would not be able to watch the races and change camera during the race to monitor all players and make sure there is no cheating. With the 'all go on 1 team and me alone on the other team' idea, I am stuck in the normal camera mode, and if I suicide the game ends. Also, as I stated on steam, I would prefer the current updates be finished before race mode were to be added.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:32:47 PM
No one wants to do the same one over and over.

So you're expecting Allie to consistantly make new maps so your racers might not get bored?

There's 21 maps in PVP.
Be creative.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
Quote from: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 09:37:48 PM
So you're expecting Allie to consistantly make new maps so your racers might not get bored?

uhh

no?

and I suppose stardeck and hoverbyte city and circuit city might be good but that's still only 4 maps to play on, and as I said before it wouldn't work anyway because of the restricted camera angle.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Mario666 on September 29, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
You should just do it in individual pvp, people hitting each other should just become part of it, it would make things more interesting tbh.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:45:26 PM
Quote from: Mario666 on September 29, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
You should just do it in individual pvp, people hitting each other should just become part of it, it would make things more interesting tbh.
I'll consider it but I think everyone is just going to spam attacks at the start and whoever manages to not get hit will win easily, and so it becomes pvp and not a race
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:45:26 PM
Quote from: Mario666 on September 29, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
You should just do it in individual pvp, people hitting each other should just become part of it, it would make things more interesting tbh.
I'll consider it but I think everyone is just going to spam attacks at the start and whoever manages to not get hit will win easily, and so it becomes pvp and not a race
Or simply agree with the racers not to hit eachother.
if they do, you kick them and start over.

You need rules and respect for that, not a whole new addiction to the game that could take months of time, preventing future other, better updates from coming out earlier.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Mario666 on September 29, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:45:26 PM
Quote from: Mario666 on September 29, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
You should just do it in individual pvp, people hitting each other should just become part of it, it would make things more interesting tbh.
I'll consider it but I think everyone is just going to spam attacks at the start and whoever manages to not get hit will win easily, and so it becomes pvp and not a race

Well you gotta work with what you got. If you really want race mode to make a comeback, you're gonna have to
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Epic xD on September 29, 2013, 09:50:08 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
only 4 maps
damn, bvb has had only had 1 good map for 7 years now. >_> i'd be happy to get 1 more map.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 09:47:43 PM
not a whole new addition to the game
what

Quote from: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 09:47:43 PM
preventing future other, better updates from coming out earlier.
I have already stated I wish for the current updates to be finished first, before this


Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 09:53:21 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 09:47:43 PM
preventing future other, better updates from coming out earlier.
I have already stated I wish for the current updates to be finished first, before this

wasn't talking about current planned updates, which are being worked on, talking about updates that are not yet thought of, not yet planned.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:57:10 PM
I will maybe try some of these things this week and see how they go, thanks for the suggestions guys

I'll make a new thread too

Also please don't edit my posts unnecessarily without my permission

Thanks everyone
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: Madprox on September 29, 2013, 10:07:08 PM
Quote from: Cooky on September 29, 2013, 09:57:10 PM
I will maybe try some of these things this week and see how they go, thanks for the suggestions guys

I'll make a new thread too

Also please don't edit my posts unnecessarily without my permission

Thanks everyone

I only corrected my own spelling mistake, so that you could understand what i meant.
My bad.
Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Corr on September 30, 2013, 12:25:03 PM
Race mode was stupid to me. Whether it comes back or not, it's still stupid to me.

Title: Re: Add back Race Mode
Post by: Iridion on September 30, 2013, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: Allie on September 29, 2013, 09:22:19 PM
I think you're too self-absorbed in desiring it to be an official, public game.
If you wanted to do it to help the community, you can create your own alternative.
You played race mode before it was an official tag. You can do it now that its not anymore.

If you want an ez race, do what someone else in thread said. Team mode with one person on the opposite team.
Use tags in order to set everyones speed the same, and since everyones on the same team noone will be knocked down. Every game needs someone out of the game to determine the winner, so there's absolutely no issue with this except your downright self-absorbed, self-proclaimed right for us to take time out of our updates to give you something that you can create yourself.

Take this as a huge slap to your character and ego and start playing race mode if you want to. It's not coming back as an official game mode anytime soon. It is up to you to keep it alive, not us.

exactly what i wanted to say, race can be played well normally - it could be nice to have a whole new game mode tho