make them trans pack and remove them from special trans
special trans is supposed to be fun cuz u get a different trans every game
now its lame cuz theres a chance u can get shitty scalper or remodeled code red
pls remove
I agree I think all the horrible special trans need to be removed
I remember on BOTS it was great being ram and not needed a trans pack cus I would get awesome special trans
but now theres a big chance u get stuck with some of the worst trans in the whole game
+1
I hate that big slow green and gray guy with the hammer, he is super annoying to get
+1
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 01, 2014, 04:42:44 PM
What I think it is fun. I like getting bad transes and trying to play with them.
then buy the trans pack of the shit transes
in a real base or pvp game, an full sp/charge ram is basically useless. outside of trans they can easily be pushed and with trans theyre stuck with a shitty trans
???
special trans should be a big advantage for ram as its one of rams 3 special stats
yet its practically a negative
needs to be changed in my opinion
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 01, 2014, 05:16:06 PM
Quote from: KillerPig on January 01, 2014, 05:04:44 PM
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 01, 2014, 04:42:44 PM
What I think it is fun. I like getting bad transes and trying to play with them.
then buy the trans pack of the **** transes
in a real base or pvp game, an full sp/charge ram is basically useless. outside of trans they can easily be pushed and with trans theyre stuck with a ****ty trans
???
But I do not want to buy the transpack to play as 1 trans the whole time. You suck at convincing people pig noob.
Well didn't really take into consideration that it is in fact one of rams specialties. So I guess it should be changed.
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if a FULL SP RAM with charge gets a scalper trans, hes stuck with it the whole game wtf are u talk
^There are 6 transes you can get with SP (if the T-bot garbage is removed.)
-Kowbat (Crazy good)
-Bugbear (Crazy good)
-Mandragore (Imo this is decent)
-Melissa (Not so good)
-Blaster (Not so good)
If I had high SP I would much rather take the chance and try to go for Kowbat or Bugbear (because those are absolutely insane). Worst case scenario I will end up wth Melissa or Blaster, but even those 2 are amazing compared to both the T-Bot transes. Special Trans is all about luck. You can't exactly rely on it, but it can be the ticket to winning the game (or losing it).
Quote from: Reviax on January 02, 2014, 03:12:56 AM
^There are 6 transes you can get with SP (if the T-bot garbage is removed.)
-Kowbat (Crazy good)
-Bugbear (Crazy good)
-Mandragore (Imo this is decent)
-Melissa (Not so good)
-Blaster (Not so good)
There is also at least 1 other one but I forget the name
it really sucks though
don't think it was on BOTS
its green and has a hammer
so the chance of getting a good trans is less then 50%
that's bad
Quote from: Cooky on January 02, 2014, 03:16:59 AM
Quote from: Reviax on January 02, 2014, 03:12:56 AM
^There are 6 transes you can get with SP (if the T-bot garbage is removed.)
-Kowbat (Crazy good)
-Bugbear (Crazy good)
-Mandragore (Imo this is decent)
-Melissa (Not so good)
-Blaster (Not so good)
There is also at least 1 other one but I forget the name
it really sucks though
don't think it was on BOTS
its green and has a hammer
so the chance of getting a good trans is less then 50%
that's bad
The green one with a hammer is a T-Bot trans as well. Notice in brackets I put "if the Tbot garbage is removed"
sorry im not really familiar with 't-bots garbage' :P
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:15:56 AM
Quote from: Reviax on January 02, 2014, 03:12:56 AM
^There are 6 transes you can get with SP (if the T-bot garbage is removed.)
-Kowbat (Crazy good)
-Bugbear (Crazy good)
-Mandragore (Imo this is decent)
-Melissa (Not so good)
-Blaster (Not so good)
If I had high SP I would much rather take the chance and try to go for Kowbat or Bugbear (because those are absolutely insane). Worst case scenario I will end up wth Melissa or Blaster, but even those 2 are amazing compared to both the T-Bot transes. Special Trans is all about luck. You can't exactly rely on it, but it can be the ticket to winning the game (or losing it).
Bugbear is not that great because it is slow and easy to outrun on flop (I saw flop because this is the only map people are competative on). On holodeck it is great though.
both bugbear and blaster r pretty good in base (pushing wise) because of they crazy large hit box. 4/5 trans' on the SP list (excluding t bot) r good and can rekt ppl if they know how 2 use... SP should be a game-changing stat not a disadvantage..
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:31:41 AM
No one plays Base unless it is just for lols or lyfe and a few others.
many ppl play base/starting to ::) ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:31:41 AM
Quote from: 123bomb123 on January 02, 2014, 03:23:51 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:15:56 AM
Quote from: Reviax on January 02, 2014, 03:12:56 AM
^There are 6 transes you can get with SP (if the T-bot garbage is removed.)
-Kowbat (Crazy good)
-Bugbear (Crazy good)
-Mandragore (Imo this is decent)
-Melissa (Not so good)
-Blaster (Not so good)
If I had high SP I would much rather take the chance and try to go for Kowbat or Bugbear (because those are absolutely insane). Worst case scenario I will end up wth Melissa or Blaster, but even those 2 are amazing compared to both the T-Bot transes. Special Trans is all about luck. You can't exactly rely on it, but it can be the ticket to winning the game (or losing it).
Bugbear is not that great because it is slow and easy to outrun on flop (I saw flop because this is the only map people are competative on). On holodeck it is great though.
both bugbear and blaster r pretty good in base (pushing wise) because of they crazy large hit box. 4/5 trans' on the SP list (excluding t bot) r good and can rekt ppl if they know how 2 use... SP should be a game-changing stat not a disadvantage..
But I am talking about Pvp. No one plays Base unless it is just for lols or lyfe and a few others. I agree that the T-bot transes should be put into the shop like the golem and musz however.
But Bugbear is good on flop too. The jump attack range and it's sidewind ability make up for the slowness.
its just not worth the risk
ram is all about their trans
if u get a bad one the whole game is ruined
whereas u could buy a lanternman or whatever and be all set every game
so in my mind the special trans stat is really a big waste and considering its one of rams 3 stats, I think that's pretty lame when u consider the other bot types have 3 really useful stats
^I could wreck you with Bugbear on Flop. :-\
Bugbear has an aerial comparable to Kowbat. loool.
>says he's not good
>preaches as if he is good
>logic
nice
Honestly, you're not really doing anything for this suggestion/thread besides being a huge pain. .-.
Jake and Cooky make some good points here. The T-Bot transformations make Special Trans way too much of a gamble to consider even using in the first place. Also, by making Special Trans better, Rams become better by extension, which makes this game more balanced.
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:47:05 AM
Quote from: Reviax on January 02, 2014, 03:35:36 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:31:41 AM
Quote from: 123bomb123 on January 02, 2014, 03:23:51 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:15:56 AM
Quote from: Reviax on January 02, 2014, 03:12:56 AM
^There are 6 transes you can get with SP (if the T-bot garbage is removed.)
-Kowbat (Crazy good)
-Bugbear (Crazy good)
-Mandragore (Imo this is decent)
-Melissa (Not so good)
-Blaster (Not so good)
If I had high SP I would much rather take the chance and try to go for Kowbat or Bugbear (because those are absolutely insane). Worst case scenario I will end up wth Melissa or Blaster, but even those 2 are amazing compared to both the T-Bot transes. Special Trans is all about luck. You can't exactly rely on it, but it can be the ticket to winning the game (or losing it).
Bugbear is not that great because it is slow and easy to outrun on flop (I saw flop because this is the only map people are competative on). On holodeck it is great though.
both bugbear and blaster r pretty good in base (pushing wise) because of they crazy large hit box. 4/5 trans' on the SP list (excluding t bot) r good and can rekt ppl if they know how 2 use... SP should be a game-changing stat not a disadvantage..
But I am talking about Pvp. No one plays Base unless it is just for lols or lyfe and a few others. I agree that the T-bot transes should be put into the shop like the golem and musz however.
But Bugbear is good on flop too. The jump attack range and it's sidewind ability make up for the slowness.
Any skilled player can easily manuever and outrun a bugbear on flop. Unless a surge with a bunch of speed has one.
Any skilled player can easily utilize Bugbear. You'd be trying to run from something that you can't even get near since the jump hit has a 360 radius and can get around blocks effortlessly.
I think you can get much more hits in with this than a lanny.
Quote from: Epic xD on January 02, 2014, 04:16:49 AM
Jake makes some good points here. The T-Bot transformations make Special Trans way too much of a gamble to consider even using in the first place. Also, by making Special Trans better, Rams become better by extension, which makes this game more balanced.
hey now I made some good points too 8)
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 04:19:12 AMWell either way my logic is correct. I still have a lot of experience in pvp whether I am that good or not. I also learn by watching.
Also, things such as tier lists are made by people who are the
best at the game and measure potential when utilized by the
best people. Tier lists can be either accurate or inaccurate at lower skill levels; it ultimately depends on the person. I don't mean to sound like Opti or anything, but I've experienced this several times. The best example I can think of is in SSB. To vastly oversimplify the mechanics of the game, Mario is considered a much better character than Luigi (mid-tier compared to low-tier) due to his better projectile, approach, and combo ability at a high level. However, at a lower level of play, Luigi could be better because he does a good combo finisher with his recovery.
Bugbear has the potential to be devastating if you're good at this game. (I really don't believe anyone could find Bugbear to be hard to use...)
tl;dr
Your calling Bugbear bad is saying Bugbear shouldn't be placed high on a tier list. That simply isn't true.
oye can we all agree new special trans are bad and need to be remove
Quote from: KillerPig on January 02, 2014, 04:15:31 PM
oye can we all agree new special trans are bad and need to be remove
Quote from: KillerPig on January 02, 2014, 04:15:31 PM
oye can we all agree new special trans are bad and need to be remove
+1 to this fellow Cyberspace Citizen.