BoutCheetah

it is annoying, after ppl die they just insta exit. u should remove it from the options after dieing or at least make it like 2 min before u can exit in pvp or somthing.

+1

what exactly is annoying about someone quitting after you kill them?

whats the difference from that - and them just waiting and leaving the room after the game?

you still get the xp from the kill don't you?

Most of the ppl leave when they are low before they die

Quote from: matan124 on April 13, 2014, 07:30:10 AM
Most of the ppl leave when they are low before they die

ok I understand your concern now

im in favor of making it so you cant exit in pvp until you die, seems fair to me and would prevent that issue

Quote from: Cooky on April 13, 2014, 07:35:18 AM

Quote from: matan124 on April 13, 2014, 07:30:10 AM
Most of the ppl leave when they are low before they die

ok I understand your concern now

im in favor of making it so you cant exit in pvp until you die, seems fair to me and would prevent that issue

+1

Those players who exit before they die are funny though, you can smell the rage when they leave. I sometimes whisper them for lolz. Anyways, yeah! Don't allow them to exit till they die .even if people barely play anymore and when they do play they're up against a dude trying to take their money  >:(

Omg +1

Well... Players could just close the entire client.

Do you really need them to stay until they die? The XP is so low that it hardly makes a difference. The amount of botstract you get is horrible too. (Does botstract even do anything useful? >_>)
They can also just suicide on most maps by jumping into the water/lava. Then your XP will get halved and you'll get no botstract.

Quote from: nanak tatum on April 13, 2014, 08:42:35 PM

Quote from: Reviax on April 13, 2014, 08:32:23 PM
Well... Players could just close the entire client.

Do you really need them to stay until they die? The XP is so low that it hardly makes a difference. The amount of botstract you get is horrible too. (Does botstract even do anything useful? >_>)
They can also just suicide on most maps by jumping into the water/lava. Then your XP will get halved and you'll get no botstract.

1/2 exp better than no exp. Also, yes, why not make it harder for them to have to exit/more inconvenient because they are the ones RQ'ing. Also, people might want bot stract for fun/they might actually use it.

PvP isn't played for XP. That's what sector is for. You can get 20 times more exp from one run of map 258 in sector.
And again, does botstract do anything useful? >_>

This suggestion seems pointless to me. This won't make a difference so I don't disapprove.

Quote from: Reviax on April 13, 2014, 08:32:23 PM
Well... Players could just close the entire client.

Do you really need them to stay until they die? The XP is so low that it hardly makes a difference. The amount of botstract you get is horrible too. (Does botstract even do anything useful? >_>)
They can also just suicide on most maps by jumping into the water/lava. Then your XP will get halved and you'll get no botstract.

You probably don't get it coz u never pvp but it is so annoying when ppl do it and it happen like 8 games out of 10.
As a guy that like to pvp it ruins my joy that every1 just leave, it makes me feel that pvp sux.
I want to see how u will feel when every1 just quit with no point every game.
Also, if the amount of bs is irrelevant from a kill so how ppl get high amount of bs? 1 after 1, it is not like u can get it anywhere else. If all my games were like that I wouldn't have 300k bs from only pvping.
And as a guy who hates sector so much (took me 2 years to get to lvl 200) I prefer getting exp in a fun way (even tho it will take me longer time) ruther then doing the exact same map in the exact same way 200 time like a robot.

Quote from: matan124 on April 13, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
Also, if the amount of bs is irrelevant from a kill so how ppl get high amount of bs? 1 after 1, it is not like u can get it anywhere else. If all my games were like that I wouldn't have 300k bs from only pvping.


like a robot.

Aha boosting Sir, private/locked rooms continuously spamming games through the power of multi-clienting. Yeah people are that sad. I'd personally be glad if people rage quit it'd make me feel pro, like i'm to good to be in their presence they have to walk away so to speak. But that's not the situation for me since i'm not that good.

The last bit just made me lol.

Even if there was a time limit in place players could simply  d'c from the game (hit the x in the top right) or could have other ways of getting around the time limit.

I can see why this is a problem for you but people will find ways around it :(

Quote from: FalseProphet on April 13, 2014, 09:08:39 PM

Quote from: matan124 on April 13, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
Also, if the amount of bs is irrelevant from a kill so how ppl get high amount of bs? 1 after 1, it is not like u can get it anywhere else. If all my games were like that I wouldn't have 300k bs from only pvping.


like a robot.

Aha boosting Sir, private/locked rooms continuously spamming games through the power of multi-clienting. Yeah people are that sad. I'd personally be glad if people rage quit it'd make me feel pro, like i'm to good to be in their presence they have to walk away so to speak. But that's not the situation for me since i'm not that good.

The last bit just made me lol.

Not nesseceraly boosting. imo, every single game in sector is doing the exact same map in the exact same way without any change. It is not that the next game in sector will be any different from the previous one, so I find it really boring- like a robot repeating the same thing over and over again without any change.

And about the second thing that you said- if every1 exit each time you play you would have felt really lonely like no1 want to play with you and not like a god. After all, you pvp coz you want to have fun and when every1 leave when they play with you it ruins the fun and makes you want to quit coz no1 play with you and that it the meaning of mmo games.
I quitted for half a year coz no1 wanted to pvp, trust me, it is not fun and it doesn't make you feel good.

Quote from: medchiller on April 13, 2014, 09:23:08 PM
Even if there was a time limit in place players could simply  d'c from the game (hit the x in the top right) or could have other ways of getting around the time limit.

I can see why this is a problem for you but people will find ways around it :(

Ppl are to lazy to d/c from the game and reconnect. Even if they do it, the amount of players doing that will drop sagnificantly.

Quote from: matan124 on April 13, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
You probably don't get it coz u never pvp but it is so annoying when ppl do it and it happen like 8 games out of 10.
As a guy that like to pvp it ruins my joy that every1 just leave, it makes me feel that pvp sux.
I want to see how u will feel when every1 just quit with no point every game.
Also, if the amount of bs is irrelevant from a kill so how ppl get high amount of bs? 1 after 1, it is not like u can get it anywhere else. If all my games were like that I wouldn't have 300k bs from only pvping.
And as a guy who hates sector so much (took me 2 years to get to lvl 200) I prefer getting exp in a fun way (even tho it will take me longer time) ruther then doing the exact same map in the exact same way 200 time like a robot.

I feel exactly the same when somebody leaves a game because it's the same as killing them. You win, they lose.

How fun is PvP really for you? Either the people you're facing are lower levels/really bad or you're completely overpowered. In all of your screenshots you won in blue HP. In two of them you're wearing OP gear. In the other two you're transed, but I'm willing to bet you were still wearing RT1/T3. And I'm almost certain you won those matches in under 2 minutes. You don't need to see the player die, it's clear before the match even starts that you won. Want PvP to be more fun? Try handicapping yourself. Wanna know why nobody wants to PvP with you? Have a look at your equips.

Leveling up now is much easier than it was 2 years ago. You're level 225, you don't need XP anymore. According to the rankings, you only have 148k botstract. (Unless you have the rest on an alternate account. Not that it matters, I'm convinced BS is worthless)

pretty sure matan isn't op at all because he's been very inactive since bcs birth

Quote from: Reviax on April 13, 2014, 09:52:27 PM

Quote from: matan124 on April 13, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
You probably don't get it coz u never pvp but it is so annoying when ppl do it and it happen like 8 games out of 10.
As a guy that like to pvp it ruins my joy that every1 just leave, it makes me feel that pvp sux.
I want to see how u will feel when every1 just quit with no point every game.
Also, if the amount of bs is irrelevant from a kill so how ppl get high amount of bs? 1 after 1, it is not like u can get it anywhere else. If all my games were like that I wouldn't have 300k bs from only pvping.
And as a guy who hates sector so much (took me 2 years to get to lvl 200) I prefer getting exp in a fun way (even tho it will take me longer time) ruther then doing the exact same map in the exact same way 200 time like a robot.

I feel exactly the same when somebody leaves a game because it's the same as killing them. You win, they lose.

How fun is PvP really for you? Either the people you're facing are lower levels/really bad or you're completely overpowered. In all of your screenshots you won in blue HP. In two of them you're wearing OP gear. In the other two you're transed, but I'm willing to bet you were still wearing RT1/T3. And I'm almost certain you won those matches in under 2 minutes. You don't need to see the player die, it's clear before the match even starts that you won. Want PvP to be more fun? Try handicapping yourself. Wanna know why nobody wants to PvP with you? Have a look at your equips.

Leveling up now is much easier than it was 2 years ago. You're level 225, you don't need XP anymore. According to the rankings, you only have 148k botstract. (Unless you have the rest on an alternate account. Not that it matters, I'm convinced BS is worthless)

first of all players between lvl 1 - 200 dont pvp and if they do it is rare, and trust me, when some1 lvl 225 pvp some1 lvl ~150 it doesnt matter what items he got or i got coz he got no chance to win coz of the lvl difference, and that without concidering that 99.999999% of them are bad too, so there is no point.
about the rest, 95% of them got rt1 set + jack + member flags or reaper or td +all the items u concider op. not my fault that most of the ppl dont know what breakfall is and they never talk in chat or they are koreans that dont speak english. they just upper spam or do nothing so it is really easy not to get hit, doesnt matter what items i got. only the fact that i am surge and they are patch\ram give me advantage. anyway, never happen to me yet that some1 with breakfall and he knew how to play quitted the game.

and this- "You don't need to see the player die, it's clear before the match even starts that you won."
1. i am a bs collector, doesnt matter if they are worthless
2. with member i am still not 270 so i do want exp

also if the items are the problem i am pretty sure they can say: "can u remove that?" and if they ask for it i always remove, that just happened to me yestarday because some1 had t3 arms and i had rt1 so i removed them.
so it is generally this- "people you're facing are lower levels/really bad" and when i face good ppl in high lvl they got the same items, or even better items then me.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
first of all players between lvl 1 - 200 dont pvp and if they do it is rare, and trust me, when some1 lvl 225 pvp some1 lvl ~150 it doesnt matter what items he got or i got coz he got no chance to win coz of the lvl difference, and that without concidering that 99.999999% of them are bad too, so there is no point.

Gonna disagree with this. Gear makes more of a difference than level.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
about the rest, 95% of them got rt1 set + jack + member flags or reaper or td +all the items u concider op. not my fault that most of the ppl dont know what breakfall is and they never talk in chat or they are koreans that dont speak english. they just upper spam or do nothing so it is really easy not to get hit, doesnt matter what items i got. only the fact that i am surge and they are patch\ram give me advantage. anyway, never happen to me yet that some1 with breakfall and he knew how to play quitted the game.

You're kinda contradicting yourself there. You have the advantage as a surge because of your items.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
1. i am a bs collector, doesnt matter if they are worthless

Alright.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
2. with member i am still not 270 so i do want exp

Why? At level 225 you can equip everything you need to.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
also if the items are the problem i am pretty sure they can say: "can u remove that?" and if they ask for it i always remove, that just happened to me yestarday because some1 had t3 arms and i had rt1 so i removed them.
so it is generally this- "people you're facing are lower levels/really bad" and when i face good ppl in high lvl they got the same items, or even better items then me.

Which goes back to me suggesting that you handicap yourself.

Quote from: Reviax on April 14, 2014, 06:46:58 PM

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
first of all players between lvl 1 - 200 dont pvp and if they do it is rare, and trust me, when some1 lvl 225 pvp some1 lvl ~150 it doesnt matter what items he got or i got coz he got no chance to win coz of the lvl difference, and that without concidering that 99.999999% of them are bad too, so there is no point.

Gonna disagree with this. Gear makes more of a difference than level.

Nop, lvl difference makes more difference then items. I am pretty sure I understand more in these stuff then you.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
about the rest, 95% of them got rt1 set + jack + member flags or reaper or td +all the items u concider op. not my fault that most of the ppl dont know what breakfall is and they never talk in chat or they are koreans that dont speak english. they just upper spam or do nothing so it is really easy not to get hit, doesnt matter what items i got. only the fact that i am surge and they are patch\ram give me advantage. anyway, never happen to me yet that some1 with breakfall and he knew how to play quitted the game.

You're kinda contradicting yourself there. You have the advantage as a surge because of your items.

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So u tell me that I can't use body that gives me speed? This is really stupid, as a surge I am suppose to be much faster then them. And I also said that they got same items as me like rt1 set ect so how I get advantage as a surge coz of my items if we got same items, only that they are rams or patches an I am a surge? While I am faster they got longer trans or more ta and td as a patch. You basically say here that I can't use surge?

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
2. with member i am still not 270 so i do want exp

Why? At level 225 you can equip everything you need to.
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I want to be at max lvl when I get membership, what's wrong with that?

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
also if the items are the problem i am pretty sure they can say: "can u remove that?" and if they ask for it i always remove, that just happened to me yestarday because some1 had t3 arms and i had rt1 so i removed them.
so it is generally this- "people you're facing are lower levels/really bad" and when i face good ppl in high lvl they got the same items, or even better items then me.

Which goes back to me suggesting that you handicap yourself.
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What?

Anyway collecting bs and getting exp are good enough reason for this suggestion so yea.

Quoteremove exit after u die  in pvp\base

>Checks health. *red*
>Checks opponents health  *blue*
>Realizes they are going to lose
>Rage quits using the exit button before he dies and cannot use it

If you're going to remove the exit button remove it overall not just after someone dies, but i say keep it. -1.

Quote from: FalseProphet on April 15, 2014, 05:19:53 PM

Quoteremove exit after u die  in pvp\base

>Checks health. *red*
>Checks opponents health  *blue*
>Realizes they are going to lose
>Rage quits using the exit button before he dies and cannot use it

If you're going to remove the exit button remove it overall not just after someone dies, but i say keep it. -1.

I meant what cooky said, I need to change the suggestion info- cant exit before u die not after

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
Nop, lvl difference makes more difference then items. I am pretty sure I understand more in these stuff then you.

No, you don't understand this more than me. How about you test that^ in-game?

Quote from: Reviax on April 14, 2014, 06:46:58 PMYou're kinda contradicting yourself there. You have the advantage as a surge because of your items.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
So u tell me that I can't use body that gives me speed? This is really stupid, as a surge I am suppose to be much faster then them. And I also said that they got same items as me like rt1 set ect so how I get advantage as a surge coz of my items if we got same items, only that they are rams or patches an I am a surge? While I am faster they got longer trans or more ta and td as a patch. You basically say here that I can't use surge?

No, that's not what I'm saying. >_>
You said:

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
it is really easy not to get hit, doesnt matter what items i got. only the fact that i am surge and they are patch\ram give me advantage.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
I want to be at max lvl when I get membership, what's wrong with that?

Nothing is wrong with that. It's just completely pointless. (Like you collecting botstract)

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
also if the items are the problem i am pretty sure they can say: "can u remove that?" and if they ask for it i always remove, that just happened to me yestarday because some1 had t3 arms and i had rt1 so i removed them.
so it is generally this- "people you're facing are lower levels/really bad" and when i face good ppl in high lvl they got the same items, or even better items then me.

Quote from: Reviax on April 14, 2014, 06:46:58 PMWhich goes back to me suggesting that you handicap yourself.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
What?

I don't think you'll understand if I try to explain it since (I'm assuming) English isn't your first language.

Quote from: matan124 on April 14, 2014, 06:19:17 AM
Anyway collecting bs and getting exp are good enough reason for this suggestion so yea.

Let me make sure we're on the same page here. You want this implemented so that you can:
-Collect pointless botstract at a faster pace.
-Collect XP that you don't even need.

???

-1 to this. Makes it a hassle for people who just want to leave the game, ragequitter or not.

Quote from: Reviax on April 15, 2014, 07:21:45 PM

-1 to this. Makes it a hassle for people who just want to leave the game, ragequitter or not.

this is your opinion and i respect it and english is not my first language lol

anyway ill be happy to test it in a pvp game :3
pm me your ign and we will talk there