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Poll
Question: which is better in pvp?
Option 1: Ram votes: 11
Option 2: Patch votes: 2
Option 3: Surge votes: 19
Title: which is best in pvp?
Post by: koolwolf2 on February 25, 2011, 10:24:43 AM
Who do u think is better in pvp patch/ram/surge wondering i need people with exp to help me  ;D
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 25, 2011, 10:34:44 AM
Surge because of it's speed and evade.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Allie on February 25, 2011, 05:25:03 PM
Ram because of Zeon.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Optimism on February 25, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
All play equally at top tier if TA is used.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Lyric_ on February 25, 2011, 10:23:40 PM
Or Ts.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Allie on February 26, 2011, 12:11:37 AM
Quote from: Optimism on February 25, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
All play equally at top tier if TA is used.

Surge -> using speed/evade to get by.
Ram -> Abusing the trans power you're given and without the opponent using TD you're a match for surges.
Patch -> Run, camp, upper spam, repeat.

Yep, about even dude.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Optimism on February 26, 2011, 12:13:19 AM
Quote from: Allie on February 26, 2011, 12:11:37 AM
Quote from: Optimism on February 25, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
All play equally at top tier if TA is used.

Surge -> using speed/evade to get by.
Ram -> Abusing the trans power you're given and without the opponent using TD you're a match for surges.
Patch -> Run, camp, upper spam, repeat.

Yep, about even dude.

*claps*

Well done XD.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Lyric_ on February 26, 2011, 01:04:32 AM
Surge is best. Don't let'em trick you! Allie, did Blessed get Jura? If not, I want it. (in place of kyura)
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Iridion on February 26, 2011, 10:53:50 AM
And I get kyura in place of
nothing?
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: cybercjt on February 26, 2011, 10:55:13 AM
Surge is the best in PVP
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 26, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Allie on February 26, 2011, 12:11:37 AM
Quote from: Optimism on February 25, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
All play equally at top tier if TA is used.

Surge -> using speed/evade to get by.
Ram -> Abusing the trans power you're given and without the opponent using TD you're a match for surges.
Patch -> Run, camp, upper spam, repeat.

Yep, about even dude.
The problem is almost everyone uses TD in PvP. lol
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: koolwolf2 on February 26, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
Quote from: Shadow on February 26, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Allie on February 26, 2011, 12:11:37 AM
Quote from: Optimism on February 25, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
All play equally at top tier if TA is used.

Surge -> using speed/evade to get by.
Ram -> Abusing the trans power you're given and without the opponent using TD you're a match for surges.
Patch -> Run, camp, upper spam, repeat.

Yep, about even dude.
The problem is almost everyone uses TD in PvP. lol

What is TD/TA
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: 123bomb123 on February 26, 2011, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: koolwolf2 on February 26, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
Quote from: Shadow on February 26, 2011, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Allie on February 26, 2011, 12:11:37 AM
Quote from: Optimism on February 25, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
All play equally at top tier if TA is used.

Surge -> using speed/evade to get by.
Ram -> Abusing the trans power you're given and without the opponent using TD you're a match for surges.
Patch -> Run, camp, upper spam, repeat.

Yep, about even dude.
The problem is almost everyone uses TD in PvP. lol

What is TD/TA

Uhm.. TD is Trans Defense meaning when the opposing player or virus is in a trans or boss mode it hits lesser on you with more TD. (When you're not transed)

TA is Trans Attack which is when the opposing player or virus is transed or in boss-mode and you're not. You hit higher on them.

My explanation prolly sucks.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: NeoKiller on February 26, 2011, 01:57:41 PM
there is also TS, youc an trans faster with it and with TG you stay transed longer. ;D
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: 123bomb123 on February 26, 2011, 02:01:20 PM
Quote from: Vlad7 on February 26, 2011, 01:57:41 PM
there is also TS, youc an trans faster with it and with TG you stay transed longer. ;D

TG ftw!! Unless they have TD!
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 26, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
^^ Which usually everyone does.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Allie on February 26, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Dude I was the only one to pick patch.
You guys suck.
Fight starscream while he uses patch.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Blessed on February 26, 2011, 03:50:58 PM
I say ram

@allie ive betten star when he was patch o.O
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 26, 2011, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: Allie on February 26, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Dude I was the only one to pick patch.
You guys suck.
Fight starscream while he uses patch.
I fought starscream when he was a patch (I was a patch as well) and I still beat him.  He had mobility and upper, I had break-fall and upper.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Allie on February 27, 2011, 01:41:44 AM
Quote from: Blessed on February 26, 2011, 03:50:58 PM
I say ram

@allie ive betten star when he was patch o.O

You suck and star let you win.

Quote from: Shadow on February 26, 2011, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: Allie on February 26, 2011, 03:14:37 PM
Dude I was the only one to pick patch.
You guys suck.
Fight starscream while he uses patch.
I fought starscream when he was a patch (I was a patch as well) and I still beat him.  He had mobility and upper, I had break-fall and upper.

You suck and star let you win.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 02:20:25 AM
Doubt it, sure looked like he was trying to me because he started whining when I was beating him.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Meta on February 27, 2011, 11:38:38 AM
All 3 bot type is for pvp if everyone was coinless.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: Meta on February 27, 2011, 11:38:38 AM
All 3 bot type is for pvp if everyone was coinless.
True, but surge would still have a pretty big advantage.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Meta on February 27, 2011, 12:43:55 PM
Quote from: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: Meta on February 27, 2011, 11:38:38 AM
All 3 bot type is for pvp if everyone was coinless.
True, but surge would still have a pretty big advantage.

not if patch and ram users were good at defending itself til they can trans
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 01:54:20 PM
Yeah I guess but still surges have always had a major advantage in PvP, but it would even the playing field out a little bit if everyone was coinless.  Then trans would actually be worth something.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Insaniity on February 27, 2011, 02:01:17 PM
yay for shadow posting every other post! (spam)

But surge... End of discussion lulz. ;P
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: Insaniity on February 27, 2011, 02:01:17 PM
yay for shadow posting every other post! (spam)

But surge... End of discussion lulz. ;P
How is it spam when it has something to do with the topic ?  GG.

And actually I've been ram for a few days and have been owning people with it so in a coin less game a ram would probably dominate, if used properly.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: NeoKiller on February 27, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
thats not spam insan, thats just a legit try to increase his post count ;D
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: Vlad7 on February 27, 2011, 02:20:34 PM
thats not spam insan, thats just a legit try to increase his post count ;D
If it's legit it don't matter.  And I'm very active on the forums so what's wrong with that ?
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: NeoKiller on February 27, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
its just obvious you just want to increase your post count, cause you areposting in every crap theard, and in some theards you just repeat what others already said.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Vlad7 on February 27, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
its just obvious you just want to increase your post count, cause you areposting in every crap theard, and in some theards you just repeat what others already said.
Why would I have need/want to increase my post count ?  And it's called clearing up what other people say because most of the people here cant type understandable English.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: NeoKiller on February 27, 2011, 03:04:45 PM
If you think that nesscesary, then do what u want.
we should stop going off topic now.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Meta on February 27, 2011, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: NeoKiller on February 27, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
its just obvious you just want to increase your post count, cause you areposting in every crap theard, and in some theards you just repeat what others already said.

I'm sorry but you do the same also, and you spammed a guild thread and look how your post count went up >_>
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: NeoKiller on February 27, 2011, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: Meta on February 27, 2011, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: NeoKiller on February 27, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
its just obvious you just want to increase your post count, cause you areposting in every crap theard, and in some theards you just repeat what others already said.

I'm sorry but you do the same also, and you spammed a guild thread and look how your post count went up >_>
its funny that you think that cause i dont know what you mean.
I didnt spam any guild theard, and if you mean silence, i just postet 2 posts, and neither of them was spam.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Allie on February 27, 2011, 08:01:00 PM
Quote from: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: Meta on February 27, 2011, 11:38:38 AM
All 3 bot type is for pvp if everyone was coinless.
True, but surge would still have a pretty big advantage.

The only advantage surge has is speed.
Because of this advantage, people think surge is the best.
Therefore, they choose surge, and noone bothers to try using ram/patch in PvP.

Now, because noone bothers to try mastering ram/patch, surge PvPers dominate PvP.
Due to the mass amount of surge PvPers, it causes the illusion that ram/patch aren't as good simply because you rarely see a good ram/patch PVPer.

I don't know how to explain it any better so I'm hoping you catch my drift.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Meta on February 27, 2011, 08:08:59 PM
Rams are actually the best at PvP because of it's massive chains that it does.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: koolwolf2 on February 28, 2011, 08:30:42 AM
so right now i am ram is still think its better than surge it has too much evade it can dodge so what?
i still beat surges in my level = 105 (noob i know xD blame school) and yes Allie you are right  8)
Quote from: Allie on February 27, 2011, 08:01:00 PM
Quote from: Shadow on February 27, 2011, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: Meta on February 27, 2011, 11:38:38 AM
All 3 bot type is for pvp if everyone was coinless.
True, but surge would still have a pretty big advantage.

The only advantage surge has is speed.
Because of this advantage, people think surge is the best.
Therefore, they choose surge, and noone bothers to try using ram/patch in PvP.

Now, because noone bothers to try mastering ram/patch, surge PvPers dominate PvP.
Due to the mass amount of surge PvPers, it causes the illusion that ram/patch aren't as good simply because you rarely see a good ram/patch PVPer.

I don't know how to explain it any better so I'm hoping you catch my drift.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: koolwolf2 on March 05, 2011, 06:30:50 AM
i think i will be closing the vote soon but i still prefer ram 0,0 i Pwn RedNeon with ram him being level 150 me 121 xD
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: XenoPath on March 13, 2011, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Allie on February 25, 2011, 05:25:03 PM
Ram because of Zeon.
What Zeon?
Sorr my ram is called Zeon too
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Allie on March 13, 2011, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: Ecilpse981 on March 13, 2011, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Allie on February 25, 2011, 05:25:03 PM
Ram because of Zeon.
What Zeon?
Sorr my ram is called Zeon too

Your ram..is not..called Zeon..
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Blacklazer91 on March 13, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: Allie on March 13, 2011, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: Ecilpse981 on March 13, 2011, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Allie on February 25, 2011, 05:25:03 PM
Ram because of Zeon.
What Zeon?
Sorr my ram is called Zeon too

Your ram..is not..called Zeon..
But mine is.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Allie on March 14, 2011, 03:30:06 AM
Quote from: Blacklazer91 on March 13, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
Quote from: Allie on March 13, 2011, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: Ecilpse981 on March 13, 2011, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Allie on February 25, 2011, 05:25:03 PM
Ram because of Zeon.
What Zeon?
Sorr my ram is called Zeon too

Your ram..is not..called Zeon..
But mine is.

whatever liar.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: swagg on March 14, 2011, 08:28:14 PM
Surge > all herp derp
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: bangaer2 on March 15, 2011, 09:28:04 AM
Patch:
The BOT type with the strongest strengths and defenses. Patch is probably the most basic and easiest BOT type to use for most new players because of its stamina. Patch is physically the strongest BOT type; the basic fighter in this game.
Main stats: Critical(CRT), Trans Attack(TA) and Trans Defence(TD)
Recommended for: Those who meet their opponents without fear, relying solely on their own strength. Those who like strength and defense before speed. Those who prefer strength and remaining strong without time limit. Those who prefer close combat over ranged.

Surge:
The BOT type which hovers. The fastest BOT type in Speed. Surge mainly focuses on speed and tactics to terminate their enemies. Without a players' skill, Surge would be very fragile. The speed of a Surge makes huge difference in PvP which allow them to 'rule' the map. Surges can be one of the hardest BOT types to play with and is recommended for more skilled players. Surges are also masters at evading attacks and having much more advantage with Guns doing more damage. Surges aren't cowards because they run; they use their head for their survival.
Main Stats: Evade(MIS), Ranged attack(GUN) and Speed(BST)
Recommended for: Those who wish to move as fast as the wind yet remain silent as a mouse. Those who prefer surprise attacks and making fast deadly attacks while moving and jumping instead of having furious close combats. Those who use their speed as their deadliest weapon.

Ram:
Ram is the most unique BOT type and it's the only BOT type which isn't seen as a Virus. Ram may resemble a dancing monkey, but don't be fooled by its appearence! Rams are very deadly when Transed. Rams are transformation specialists. All the stats of a Ram are aimed towards transformation. Because of this, Rams have no main abilities outside of trans. This does not mean, however, that they are weak outside of their transformation!
Main Stats: Special Trans(SP), Trans Gauge(TG) and Trans Speed(TS)
Recommended for: Those who find strength only at their final form. Those who aim on reaching that final form as fast as possible, staying so as long as possible. Those who are moderately powerful at their normal state, yet invincible at their final state! At their final state they are almost always stronger than anyone.


The one you like is for you to decide! (for more info visit ~~Cyber's Ultimate Guide~~
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Astonish on April 02, 2011, 02:10:14 AM
Surge ftw
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: koolwolf2 on April 02, 2011, 06:54:34 AM
Quote from: bangaer2 on March 15, 2011, 09:28:04 AM
Patch:
The BOT type with the strongest strengths and defenses. Patch is probably the most basic and easiest BOT type to use for most new players because of its stamina. Patch is physically the strongest BOT type; the basic fighter in this game.
Main stats: Critical(CRT), Trans Attack(TA) and Trans Defence(TD)
Recommended for: Those who meet their opponents without fear, relying solely on their own strength. Those who like strength and defense before speed. Those who prefer strength and remaining strong without time limit. Those who prefer close combat over ranged.

Surge:
The BOT type which hovers. The fastest BOT type in Speed. Surge mainly focuses on speed and tactics to terminate their enemies. Without a players' skill, Surge would be very fragile. The speed of a Surge makes huge difference in PvP which allow them to 'rule' the map. Surges can be one of the hardest BOT types to play with and is recommended for more skilled players. Surges are also masters at evading attacks and having much more advantage with Guns doing more damage. Surges aren't cowards because they run; they use their head for their survival.
Main Stats: Evade(MIS), Ranged attack(GUN) and Speed(BST)
Recommended for: Those who wish to move as fast as the wind yet remain silent as a mouse. Those who prefer surprise attacks and making fast deadly attacks while moving and jumping instead of having furious close combats. Those who use their speed as their deadliest weapon.

Ram:
Ram is the most unique BOT type and it's the only BOT type which isn't seen as a Virus. Ram may resemble a dancing monkey, but don't be fooled by its appearence! Rams are very deadly when Transed. Rams are transformation specialists. All the stats of a Ram are aimed towards transformation. Because of this, Rams have no main abilities outside of trans. This does not mean, however, that they are weak outside of their transformation!
Main Stats: Special Trans(SP), Trans Gauge(TG) and Trans Speed(TS)
Recommended for: Those who find strength only at their final form. Those who aim on reaching that final form as fast as possible, staying so as long as possible. Those who are moderately powerful at their normal state, yet invincible at their final state! At their final state they are almost always stronger than anyone.


The one you like is for you to decide! (for more info visit ~~Cyber's Ultimate Guide~~
i read it , it was a great tut :D
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: darkyon on April 02, 2011, 06:55:38 AM
SURGE 100%
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: koolwolf2 on April 05, 2011, 03:51:27 AM
Why doesn't anyone think that patch is good in pvp add some td and critical and watch doom it is all about defending for patch and attacking at the correct time
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: aditya60 on June 11, 2011, 04:10:04 PM
SURGE FTW( screw ur evade and speed)
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: bangaer2 on June 11, 2011, 07:29:06 PM
My favo in all Modes is Ram. I've mastered it to an extent on which i rarely see in current PvP:ers. Master the ram chains, combos and trans advantage and you have already won. Though now I only use up the time playing on Glass Castle so I rarely get used to different maps.
Patch is TOO SLOW unless u spam Upper which wont help much. Compared to the others, he doesn't stand a chance in general.
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Yz on June 12, 2011, 07:05:39 AM
Quote from: bangaer2 on June 11, 2011, 07:29:06 PM
My favo in all Modes is Ram. I've mastered it to an extent on which i rarely see in current PvP:ers. Master the ram chains, combos and trans advantage and you have already won. Though now I only use up the time playing on Glass Castle so I rarely get used to different maps.
Patch is TOO SLOW unless u spam Upper which wont help much. Compared to the others, he doesn't stand a chance in general.

Patch and Ram have the same speed. patch counters Ram's trans. Surges have the same "combos" and chains in some situations, and trans advantage is put off by TD abuse. study ur pvp moar
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: Iridion on June 12, 2011, 10:46:22 AM
surge cuz it fly and nobody uses it
Title: Re: which is best in pvp?
Post by: koolwolf2 on June 12, 2011, 02:41:36 PM
Quote from: Iridion on June 12, 2011, 10:46:22 AM
surge cuz it fly and EVERYBODY uses it
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