Allie is thinking of halving the level cap, and wants to know what the community thinks. This might not be added, we just want feedback.
Here's an example.
The current level 200 would have 2.8m EXP. If the level cap was halved, you'd need 2.8m EXP to get to lvl 100.
The max cap would be 100 for a non-member and 115 for a member. (the cap isn't exactly halved, mostly modified)
Along with this also, we would redo the leveling road - the stats you have per level, So that it's not as steep and will be altogether lower.
As a possible bonus, we may halve all armor stats as well. Thoughts?
/bad explanation was tired at time of writing
If it takes same amount of EXP to get to the max level for members/non-members, which I believe you said, I see nothing wrong with this.
bc is definately changing for the better :D
has my vote
Wouldn't this mean you'd have to get rid of armors or decrease the distance at which you are able to obtain it.
The armors lvl requirements would change.
Will everyone's level reset?
So your going to have to divide 15 armors within a 115 level span
This would be kinda neat.
Quote from: zomniethe4 on July 30, 2012, 02:59:14 AM
So your going to have to divide 15 armors within a 115 level span
I almost agree with this.
It would give a bigger feeling of accomplishment in finally getting to that next level.
Quote from: zomniethe4 on July 30, 2012, 02:59:14 AM
So your going to have to divide 15 armors within a 115 level span
Divide by two lulz.
Elektra (211) would become 105 (211/2=105.5, rounded down to 105).
Twilite parts (181) would become 90 (181/2=90.5, rounded down to 90).
This of course means Dark parts will become the new max armour for non-members, as Dark Surge, etc will become level 98 (196/2) and non-members have a cap of 100.
not sure I like this idea.. I mean.. why change whats not broken? Of all the things to complain about this game ( and there arent that many) I am sure that the fact there is a large level cap is not one of them. I feel like this is going to just confuse/annoy many players..
YES
if you also restructured sector levels a bit that would be extremely ****ing epic
but don't reset levels or people will quit
I think it's fine the way it is .-.
Quote from: Iridion on July 30, 2012, 05:16:16 AM
YES
if you also restructured sector levels a bit that would be extremely ****ing epic
but don't reset levels or people will quit
That. Restructure the way the levels are arranged. It's not terrible but at the way it is now there are many maps that are just skipped over for their length or for them not being as rewarding as others. For instance. Not many people would play lv 200 considering how much longer it takes to do than 206. Maybe make the longer maps worth more exp?
the hardeest sector maps should be hard because how the level is structured, the placement of the mobs and the mobs are challenging, not because the level is a small square filled with mobs with extreme hp or because the level is a plus shaped thingy with mobs with extreme hp and damage.
yes do this!
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 05:04:17 AM
Quote from: zomniethe4 on July 30, 2012, 02:59:14 AM
So your going to have to divide 15 armors within a 115 level span
Divide by two lulz.
Elektra (211) would become 105 (211/2=105.5, rounded down to 105).
Twilite parts (181) would become 90 (181/2=90.5, rounded down to 90).
This of course means Dark parts will become the new max armour for non-members, as Dark Surge, etc will become level 98 (196/2) and non-members have a cap of 100.
Remove elektra completely.
That's way too many sets for only 115 levels.
We have 15 normal sets, 5 survival sets, a hallo set and a metorium set.
I suggest removing moonlit hawk and elektra sets.
Apart from that I like the idea.
Quote from: Iridion on July 30, 2012, 05:30:23 AM
the hardeest sector maps should be hard because how the level is structured, the placement of the mobs and the mobs are challenging, not because the level is a small square filled with mobs with extreme hp or because the level is a plus shaped thingy with mobs with extreme hp and damage.
^this
Lv 172 takes 1 min to solo on hard yet some lv 90 lvs takes 5
Also I like since this reduces the gap between higher and lower lvs which is always nice.
Well, maybe we could bring back the original BOTS level mapping.
Remove ugly sets like twilight, dark and elektra, make one new set to replace the 3 and we're all good.
Quote from: Meteor on July 30, 2012, 07:42:21 AM
Remove ugly sets like twilight, dark and elektra, make one new set to replace the 3 and we're all good.
That's what I also said but we don't need a new set, we have 22 sets already for 115 lvls ?
Way too much imo.
Just remove the ugly sets and make bladess or bladium the highest again.
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Well, maybe we could bring back the original BOTS level mapping.
That'd would be more than awesome.
Quote from: NeoKiller on July 30, 2012, 07:48:15 AM
Quote from: Meteor on July 30, 2012, 07:42:21 AM
Remove ugly sets like twilight, dark and elektra, make one new set to replace the 3 and we're all good.
That's what I also said but we don't need a new set, we have 22 sets already for 115 lvls ?
Way too much imo.
Just remove the ugly sets and make bladess or bladium the highest again.
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Well, maybe we could bring back the original BOTS level mapping.
That'd would be more than awesome.
Would be awesome to bring back the bots maps. I think the sets are fine as it is. Maybe remove Elektra since all the maxed players are using overload and thus Elektra is useless. And meteor I'll help you make the mods if you want^^
replacing elektra is ok. removing elektra would generate a giant shitstorm
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Well, maybe we could bring back the original BOTS level mapping.
Yes please. I think this is a great idea.
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 05:04:17 AM
Quote from: zomniethe4 on July 30, 2012, 02:59:14 AM
So your going to have to divide 15 armors within a 115 level span
Divide by two lulz.
Elektra (211) would become 105 (211/2=105.5, rounded down to 105).
Twilite parts (181) would become 90 (181/2=90.5, rounded down to 90).
This of course means Dark parts will become the new max armour for non-members, as Dark Surge, etc will become level 98 (196/2) and non-members have a cap of 100.
From a business standpoint, I think that would vastly decrease the reason to buy a membership.
I think it would be great to change the level mapping back to the one from BOTS. Level 98 was a very fun level and challenging level, unlike the current max level, 239, which is quite trite.
I can see a lot of pissed off non forumers, as well as some who do forum.
/Facepalm.
Based on all of these things that might happen, first person to figure out what's really going down gets my account.
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Well, maybe we could bring back the original BOTS level mapping.
Yes.
Just keep all sets up to bladess k
DO IT PWEASE DO IT :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DODODODODODDODODODODOTITITITITITITIITIIT
+1000000000000000000 my vote. THIS IS WAT BETTA!
I'm not really liking the idea however, I think that the lvl cap for non-members should be 200 so they could do some higher levels
Quote from: Nucleaon on July 30, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
Quote from: Iridion on July 30, 2012, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: Dewo on July 30, 2012, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Well, maybe we could bring back the original BOTS level mapping.
Yes.
yes!!!
WOO.
changed my mind, if the original BOTS level mapping comes back, this is great otherwise its fine the way it is.
Quote from: Adamp on July 30, 2012, 07:05:43 PM
Quote from: Nucleaon on July 30, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
Quote from: Iridion on July 30, 2012, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: Dewo on July 30, 2012, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Well, maybe we could bring back the original BOTS level mapping.
Yes.
yes!!!
WOO.
changed my mind, if the original BOTS level mapping comes back, this is great otherwise its fine the way it is.
We have a BOTS!! server you know...
Quote from: Taintedblood on July 30, 2012, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: Adamp on July 30, 2012, 01:32:19 PM
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Quote from: zomniethe4 on July 30, 2012, 05:21:01 AM
Ross thinks it's fine the way it is .-.
However you should modify the sector maps a bit. 228 Is just too small of a map to be considered "high lv," which is why people can do it so fast. The reason why the BOTS!! 98 was so good, was because it is a big map, and you have a high potential to fall if you mess up ( jumping on pillers,) increasing the challenge.
What you should do is increase the exp you need to lv up. (2x the amount.)
Quote from: Rossbach on July 30, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
What you should do is increase the exp you need to lv up. (2x the amount.)
Quote from: Xkiller712 on July 30, 2012, 08:11:51 PM
Quote from: Rossbach on July 30, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
What you should do is increase the exp you need to lv up. (2x the amount.)
They are going to do this in the new update. Only by halving the exp you get.
what would be really great is having a brand new map created by a group of players who know elements that make sector actually challenging + the feedback of the community to make it appreciated by everyone
Bad idea I like this game the way it is and having it hlaved would make the member's stats and level closer to nonmembers stats and level and no one will want to buy member.
Quote from: ZxEnvyxZ on July 31, 2012, 07:05:50 AM
Bad idea I like this game the way it is and having it hlaved would make the member's stats and level closer to nonmembers stats and level and no one will want to buy member.
maybe more non-paying players will join
Quote from: Rossbach on July 30, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
Quote from: Adamp on July 30, 2012, 07:05:43 PM
Quote from: Nucleaon on July 30, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
Quote from: Iridion on July 30, 2012, 05:38:49 PM
Quote from: Dewo on July 30, 2012, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: Allie on July 30, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Well, maybe we could bring back the original BOTS level mapping.
Yes.
yes!!!
WOO.
changed my mind, if the original BOTS level mapping comes back, this is great otherwise its fine the way it is.
We have a BOTS!! server you know...
ya but its dead
sounds cool. I like this idea.
watfak don't bring bots mapping on here
i don't get why you guys re-made bots , when you keep trying to make bc like bots
i like the idea , but i don't think it's that important right now
Quote from: Zack66775 on July 31, 2012, 01:44:15 AM
Quote from: Xkiller712 on July 30, 2012, 08:11:51 PM
Quote from: Rossbach on July 30, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
What you should do is increase the exp you need to lv up. (2x the amount.)
They are going to do this in the new update. Only by halving the exp you get.
Not that. The update is merely going to fix the high exp gain. Ross wants on top of that, it requiring 2x more exp per lv. So in a sense 4x more exp needed after the update. ::)
i've got an idea. All players have the same max lv, but only mems have access to high lv sets (like how elite sets work right now).
Nice idea but it would make member nearly useless.
Quote from: ZxEnvyxZ on August 01, 2012, 01:44:20 PM
Nice idea but it would make member nearly useless.
You would still have double the experience, double the stuff you can use and pink text.
the old rants o' mine are finally being suggested :']
+1000 for me. I don't think anyone is against having balanced stats, but it will be a huge change if you consider how long this games been up like this and with all the event items like meto and e.f's etc.
All in all, I don't like it.
Quote from: ZxEnvyxZ on August 01, 2012, 01:44:20 PM
Nice idea but it would make member nearly useless.
r u joking
Quote1. You can level up to level 115
2. You can wear all items up to level 115, including member exclusive items (such as certain flags and Elite (E) armor) that non-members cannot use.)
3. 40K coins every Monday
4. You get purple text in lobby
5. 5 Stashes instead of 3
6. 3% (300) more luck
7. Double experience
8. Ability to change your in-game name(IGN) with the name changer.
same benefits, just altered levels lawl
Quote from: KillerPig on August 02, 2012, 11:30:50 PM
Quote from: ZxEnvyxZ on August 01, 2012, 01:44:20 PM
Nice idea but it would make member nearly useless.
r u joking
Quote1. You can level up to level 115
2. You can wear all items up to level 115, including member exclusive items (such as certain flags and Elite (E) armor) that non-members cannot use.)
3. 40K coins every Monday
4. You get purple text in lobby
5. 5 Stashes instead of 3
6. 3% (300) more luck
7. Double experience
8. Ability to change your in-game name(IGN) with the name changer.
same benefits, just altered levels lawl
A win. Everybody happy!
I hope that everyone realizes that this will reduce the OPness of the game
Quote from: NeoKiller on August 03, 2012, 07:47:42 AM
I hope that everyone realizes that this will reduce the OPness of the game
thats the point?
Quote from: Iridion on August 03, 2012, 07:58:30 AM
Quote from: NeoKiller on August 03, 2012, 07:47:42 AM
I hope that everyone realizes that this will reduce the OPness of the game
thats the point?
Well, I thought most of the people are sick of the OPness of the game, that's a chance to make it less OP, still a lot of people want to keep it the way it is.
If this happens will Tier sets be lowered with the lvl?
And i like it the way it is!
Boutcheetah was focusing on getting better /stronger, and the players likes that, and now we "maybe" gonna lower the lvls to half..
the game isn't that op, because we work for our exp/gp, and they gonna change the way to earn that after guild wipe.
you also know that if this happen the 22 sets should be there.
because the rates off exp is still there, and it would be harder to get 100/115.
now you got your feedback.
Quote from: Robocop7ant on August 04, 2012, 06:49:17 AM
If this happens will Tier sets be lowered with the lvl?
And i like it the way it is!
Boutcheetah was focusing on getting better /stronger, and the players likes that, and now we "maybe" gonna lower the lvls to half..
the game isn't that op, because we work for our exp/gp, and they gonna change the way to earn that after guild wipe.
you also know that if this happen the 22 sets should be there.
because the rates off exp is still there, and it would be harder to get 100/115.
now you got your feedback.
everyone's level and eventually stats will be affected so the game is goin to be the same (op) game as before just with lower numbers around.
getting to 110/115 would be as hard as getting to 172/221, people will just level up less often than before.
this added to a revamp of the level list will balance the game and make it more enjoyable imo
then it is maybe better to have the old bc lvl cap 127.
and have all the sets :P
I'm glad i left when i did.
(http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/Themes/ShadowLurking/images/warnpmod.gif) Sexy man.
How many people are posting here? 20?
How many people are online right now? 100?
The only way to do something is by finding out what the majority wants, in this thread you only hear what the majority of the forumers want.
I dont like.-1.
Quote from: NeoKiller on August 03, 2012, 07:47:42 AM
I hope that everyone realizes that this will reduce the OPness of the game
no matter how much op we take out, allie will put more back in
Quote from: KillerPig on August 04, 2012, 07:47:49 PM
Quote from: NeoKiller on August 03, 2012, 07:47:42 AM
I hope that everyone realizes that this will reduce the OPness of the game
no matter how much op we take out, allie will put more back in
You can never level out the OP'ness. There will always be stuff that's the best and it will be obtained
oya forgot to mention
no this wont make the game any less op
Quote from: KillerPig on August 05, 2012, 02:52:07 AM
oya forgot to mention
no this wont make the game any less op
Or we could reduce the stats on all the op parts: hallow, jack head, DM etc.
Quote from: lasercut on August 05, 2012, 07:10:15 AM
Quote from: KillerPig on August 05, 2012, 02:52:07 AM
oya forgot to mention
no this wont make the game any less op
Or we could reduce the stats on all the op parts: hallow, jack head, DM etc.
those special items you mention is special because it was events over them.
I like it as it is, and we got a BOTS server.. BC is way better, but why change the lvl cap then?
Quote from: KillerPig on July 30, 2012, 02:41:20 AM
bc is definately changing for the better :D
has my vote
DO IT!!!!!!i would play more because lvl 100 cap would give me the BOTS feeling /inb4 someone says we have a bots server
and changing the lobby skin back to the original one would be 100x better,or atleastchange it to something else
Quote from: Scythe on August 05, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
Quote from: KillerPig on July 30, 2012, 02:41:20 AM
bc is definately changing for the better :D
has my vote
DO IT!!!!!!i would play more because lvl 100 cap would give me the BOTS feeling /inb4 someone says we have a bots server
and changing the lobby skin back to the original one would be 100x better,or atleastchange it to something else
We have a bots server you know. Besides this update wont make it feel more like bots at all.
-1. ::)
THIS ISNT BOTS ITS ALMOST A COMPLETELY NEW GAME
there shouldn't be a bots feel
Quote from: Rossbach on August 06, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: Scythe on August 05, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
Quote from: KillerPig on July 30, 2012, 02:41:20 AM
bc is definately changing for the better :D
has my vote
DO IT!!!!!!i would play more because lvl 100 cap would give me the BOTS feeling /inb4 someone says we have a bots server
and changing the lobby skin back to the original one would be 100x better,or atleastchange it to something else
We have a bots server you know. Besides this update wont make it feel more like bots at all.
-1. ::)
yes it will
stfu pig
Quote from: KillerPig on August 06, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
THIS ISNT BOTS ITS ALMOST A COMPLETELY NEW GAME
there shouldn't be a bots feel
Well if we just halve the level cap then it will open up more possibilities further in the game. Someday level 200 could have a required 100mil exp. By starting lower we can go further.
im completely for the level cap drop
just tried of nobs like scythe sayin they want bots feel
Quote from: KillerPig on August 07, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
im completely for the level cap drop
just tried of nobs like scythe sayin they want bots feel
why u mad tho
didn't read any thing at all.
i reply to neo's last post: http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,28560.msg292085/boardseen.html#new (http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,28560.msg292085/boardseen.html#new)
suggestion 1: old lvl 98 /95 on bots was easy too, we grinded it in 1-3min with 2-3players.
and bc's maps was hard, but what we did wrong was giving out more op items, so the game became easier.
people would rage if we took out the op items.
elektra +2 was good enough (and the highest item).
no walker bro, jack head, etc.. was good, but it's good as it is too, but it's op.
making the lvl map harder like 98 (old map in bots) to lvl 221 and having that as the highest map would be cooler, and 228 could be 215 (for a highest lvl (221) could get half exp of it).
and take out other maps or replace some?
suggestion 2: if the lvl cap gonna be 115, i would suggest it to be like old bc 127.
and try to keep all the sets that are in this game, and then maybe make old 98 to map lvl 150.
then this game would maybe be fun to someone :P
non member can reach lvl 100 and member 127, make the lvl 115 as the exp same as 221? so people can work hard to get their main account to lvl 127?
t3, metorium, elektra +7 can be equiped on lvl 127, member flags at lvl 1/up, omni keeper,discus, ice minibot at lvl 127, II skills at lvl 70?, deathhunter merc at 127, etc etc?
+1
sounds nice but they shud be bigger gap between non member lvl and member lvl as they wudnt be much point on been a member
I don't support this for the main reason I don't support the gigas idea, and because it just makes BOTS and Boutcheetah one less step different from each other.
Also, people would receive that little moment of happiness when they see that they've leveled up much less if the level cap was halved.
Again, just my opinion.
It's all about the moneyzzz
Longer to max = people play longer, get bored buy membership to level faster, membership is over buy new to reach max level member, join a good clan, keeps motivated to grind gp.
You know what should be fixed.... That when your are maxed out the game wont become sh*t
zg bots died,people barely play it
might as well just halve the gigas and level and close down ZG BOTS
Quote from: Scythe on September 05, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
zg bots died,people barely play it
might as well just halve the gigas and level and close down ZG BOTS
No. They are totally separate games.
Quote from: Scythe on September 05, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
zg bots died,people barely play it
might as well just halve the gigas and level and close down ZG BOTS
no
Quote from: KillerPig on September 05, 2012, 10:10:36 PM
Quote from: Scythe on September 05, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
zg bots died,people barely play it
might as well just halve the gigas and level and close down ZG BOTS
no
He's right, it's just 2 less differences between the two games.
Quote from: xbaras on September 05, 2012, 11:33:45 PM
Quote from: KillerPig on September 05, 2012, 10:10:36 PM
Quote from: Scythe on September 05, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
zg bots died,people barely play it
might as well just halve the gigas and level and close down ZG BOTS
no
He's right, it's just 2 less differences between the two games.
?
bc vc bots
bc skin vs bots skin
op vs non op
weird map order vs logical map order
+ a lot more
and like jeff said, the op vs non op has like a billion subsections (op gun, op merc, op armor, op ef, op wings, op head, op flags)
^bots should have the registry res changing enabled
Quote from: mo9 on September 06, 2012, 12:43:29 AM
^bots should have the registry res changing enabled
That is incorrect, because no one knew it existed in BOTS. Therefore, we are free to keep it away without removing the essence of BOTS.
people not knowing about it doesn't mean it wasn't there
Ya allie what if you were crippled
Scythe should be banned for posting stupid comments.
Just saying.
Quote from: Allie on September 06, 2012, 12:54:53 AM
Quote from: mo9 on September 06, 2012, 12:43:29 AM
^bots should have the registry res changing enabled
That is incorrect, because no one knew it existed in BOTS. Therefore, we are free to keep it away without removing the essence of BOTS.
you not knowning if someone knew or not doesnt mean nobody knew it existed
Quote from: Corr on September 06, 2012, 03:01:48 AM
Scythe should be banned for posting stupid comments.
Just saying.
if thats the case,lotsa people in this community would be banned
Bad idea. When BC came out, the max level for non-member was 100. Max level for member was 115. Your taking a turn back into Acclaim. Not a good idea, Acclaim went bankrupt..
Quote from: umm420 on September 09, 2012, 01:51:22 PM
Bad idea. When BC came out, the max level for non-member was 100. Max level for member was 115. Your taking a turn back into Acclaim. Not a good idea, Acclaim went bankrupt..
?
Quote from: umm420 on September 09, 2012, 01:51:22 PM
Bad idea. When BC came out, the max level for non-member was 100. Max level for member was 115. Your taking a turn back into Acclaim. Not a good idea, Acclaim went bankrupt..
Is it just me or do I have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about.
sounds good to me
Really i disagree i like this level system its not too slow and its not too fast...
Keep it like this please...
I say NO to That level system
It would not upgrade boutcheetah but downgrade its good as it is now (My opinion)
It's a bit easy, max f2p in 5 days, max member in 2 weeks.
If you want this game to be part of a pro gaming company make lvl a little bit harder so it becomes more of a challenge to level up.
and challenge doesnt mean 5070567365456 exp per level and sector levels that are extremelyeasy and repetitive like 172
I agree.. the sector levels are a little bit too easy... but the EXP should not be halved... just make the sectors a little bit harder :)!!
That's the spirit!!!
Quote from: daniel4667 on September 11, 2012, 07:35:31 AM
I agree.. the sector levels are a little bit too easy... but the EXP should not be halved... just make the sectors a little bit harder :)!!
That's the spirit!!!
list atleast 5 negative consequences of the update if it takes places
1-5: poke, mrZ, mrsZ, ZsMom, Zdad are all loser
i think a fair tradeoff this this:
Divide exp rate by 2, allow pushing
admin pls approve
Quote from: KillerPig on September 11, 2012, 03:47:51 PM
1-5: poke, mrZ, mrsZ, ZsMom, Zdad are all loser
i think a fair tradeoff this this:
Divide exp rate by 2, allow pushing
admin pls approve
lold do this tho
what they said ^