This isn't exactly a suggestion topic, as it's sort of confirmed to happen.
Now that we have {stk} released, and EXP upped in PvP, a lot of people are abusing every OP item they have to get the win - even though their skill is miniscule compared to others with less powerful items. I'm sure we've all been experiencing this.
{c} or some other tag name will be used to halt the use of OP items. Some people may think we have stolen this idea from somewhere but really it's more than necessary at the moment, with Kowbats and Juras in every PvP room you can find.
Here is a list of OP items that I think should be blocked with the {stk} and {c} tag. I'd love some feedback, opinions and items you want blocked as well.
-Kowbat
-Jura
-Bugbear Shop Trans (Codered)
-Dark Meto
-GM Set
-Member Flags
-Zylon Flags
-Perm Jack Head
-S EF
-P EF
-R EF
Rush II
Upper II
Ion II
Mob Boost
Charge II
Death Hunter (merc)
Double Blade (merc)
Xabaras (merc)
Tier 3 armor should be allowed, because if you put up a non-skilled player in T3 vs a very skilled player who's 172, the lvl 172 would still have much more of a chance at winning. Items like Jack and Member flags are what makes it difficult to take down a higher level - that's just my opinion anyways.
Anymore suggestions?
-1. Then no one would be able to use the rares they saved up for.
just kill jura and kow and code for stk
+1
Quote from: Xkiller712 on September 22, 2012, 12:31:44 AM
-1. Then no one would be able to use the rares they saved up for.
Disregarded. You can use your rares in non competitive rooms or Sector rooms, rather than breaking the competitive play of the game.
+1
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 12:30:44 AM
Some people may think we have stolen this idea from somewhere
:D
block jura and kow.
pls.
+1
I agree to this 100%. +1.
+1. I dun have any of those OPs anyways. (Except memb flags) ;D
blocking jack head
wtf
Quote from: KillerPig on September 22, 2012, 01:11:24 AM
blocking jack head
wtf
+75 TD
+RA too
If it wasn't OP, people wouldn't use it. But thanks for your opinion anyways, if enough people want it to remain unblocked then it won't be blocked.
block all except for jack head. +1
Rush II
Upper II
Ion II
Mob Boost
Charge II
Death Hunter (merc)
Double Blade (merc)
Xabaras (merc)
Quote from: KillerPig on September 22, 2012, 01:22:11 AM
Rush II
Upper II
Ion II
Mob Boost
Charge II
Death Hunter (merc)
Double Blade (merc)
Xabaras (merc)
/facepalm
can't believe I forgot II skills. I'll add to the list now.
Quote from: KillerPig on September 22, 2012, 01:22:11 AM
Rush II
Upper II
Ion II
Mob Boost
Charge II
Death Hunter (merc)
Double Blade (merc)
Xabaras (merc)
+1
Quote from: cybercjt on September 22, 2012, 01:21:56 AM
block all except for jack head.
-1
Quote from: KillerPig on September 22, 2012, 01:22:11 AM
Rush II
Upper II
Ion II
Mob Boost
Charge II
Death Hunter (merc)
Double Blade (merc)
Xabaras (merc)
Kowbat
Jura
^wat r u doing kow and jura are already on the list
Block kow jura and II skilz also OP MERCs
OMG LOL ALL THAT STUFF IS ON LIST ALREADY
udumb
Can we add a {maxlvl xxx} tag?
8)
Quote from: KillerPig on September 22, 2012, 01:29:11 AM
OMG LOL ALL THAT STUFF IS ON LIST ALREADY
wait i dont get it
Quote from: ReSigNeRs on September 22, 2012, 01:34:38 AM
Quote from: KillerPig on September 22, 2012, 01:29:11 AM
OMG LOL ALL THAT STUFF IS ON LIST ALREADY
wait i dont get it
those stuffs you said earlier are already in the list.
Jack Head should stay, not so OP.
S/P/R E.Fs should stay since Member Flags will be gone, a little boost wont kill.
Dunno but i heard Double Blade is bad in base but if its OP then keep it.
Rest is fine.
Quote from: Pokeh on September 22, 2012, 02:04:32 AM
Jack Head should stay, not so OP.
S/P/R E.Fs should stay since Member Flags will be gone, a little boost wont kill.
Dunno but i heard Double Blade is bad in base but if its OP then keep it.
Rest is fine.
no
ok if you dont get my side of the story then my main argument is jack head
+1 but v3 minibot and metowing are alowed right?
^o ya.
nonononononono
If you don't think jack head is OP you would all stop using it.
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 02:40:04 AM
If you don't think jack head is OP you would all stop using it.
I think people use it because it has good stats, as well as being a really cool and unique head.
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 02:40:04 AM
If you don't think jack head is OP you would all stop using it.
how so? we dont strive for op items, just going as best as we can without crossing the "op limit" bc's raised from bots
oh and its the best coin head you can possibly get. counter that >_>
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 02:40:04 AM
If you don't think jack head is OP you would all stop using it.
That's like saying Tier 3 is OP because everyone uses it. Block Tier 3, too?
Tbh the things I hate the most are Jura, Kow, and II skills, but as a non-member, I'm fine with banning as many items as possible! xD
I agree to everything, and bobo I think itd be quote dumb to block tier3 too, reason is that it gives bonus xp.. :p
Quote from: rettknight on September 22, 2012, 03:09:57 AM
I agree to everything, and bobo I think itd be quote dumb to block tier3 too, reason is that it gives bonus xp.. :p
I know, I was just trying to show Tricky his own logic. I don't agree with either Jack nor Tier 3 being banned.
Quote from: iwasbobo on September 22, 2012, 03:11:17 AM
Quote from: rettknight on September 22, 2012, 03:09:57 AM
I agree to everything, and bobo I think itd be quote dumb to block tier3 too, reason is that it gives bonus xp.. :p
I know, I was just trying to show Tricky his own logic. I don't agree with either Jack nor Tier 3 being banned.
idm jack heads, i domind II and Jura/Kow
Quote from: iwasbobo on September 22, 2012, 02:54:24 AM
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 02:40:04 AM
If you don't think jack head is OP you would all stop using it.
That's like saying Tier 3 is OP because everyone uses it. Block Tier 3, too?
Tbh the things I hate the most are Jura, Kow, and II skills, but as a non-member, I'm fine with banning as many items as possible! xD
I'm only using T3 for the EXP bonus tbh >_> So are a lotta ppl including Ret. So what you're perceiving as my logic isn't what my logic actually is at all.
@Fubar: not a very constructive post at all, try not to post stuff like that here
About T3. You are speaking as if your opinion is fact with no logic to back it up. I can assure you, lots of us don't use T3 for the stats.
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 03:18:13 AM
About T3. You are speaking as if your opinion is fact with no logic to back it up. I can assure you, lots of us don't use T3 for the stats.
thats hilarious cuz t3 has a bigger speed advantage over elektra +7 as well as the fact that you can do 700s with an active I skill.
no, imo the exp is just icing on the cake.
Ofc. T3 is slightly more powerful than Elektra, I never said otherwise. So is the strongest set always = OP?
Removing T3 from {stk} and {c} would also mean killing the bonus in PvP basically, so that's a bad idea imo.
>I can assure you, lots of us don't use T3 for the stats.
ya i was just pointing out that t3 is actually used mainly for the stats.
idk I get why it'd be a bad thing to ban it but then again it is cheap exp/gigas already >_<
Quote from: Pokeh on September 22, 2012, 03:25:24 AM
>I can assure you, lots of us don't use T3 for the stats.
ya i was just pointing out that t3 is actually used mainly for the stats.
idk I get why it'd be a bad thing to ban it but then again it is cheap exp/gigas already >_<
Lots of people I know are just using it for the EXP bonus. /repeated for the 3rd or so time.
Make a non-member room tag. so only non-members can join. ;D
k but people are always going to use the item with the best stats. Which is why they use Jack. It has the best stats. That doesn't mean it's OP, unless the strongest item always = OP.
Quote from: iwasbobo on September 22, 2012, 03:33:49 AM
k but people are always going to use the item with the best stats. Which is why they use Jack. It has the best stats. That doesn't mean it's OP, unless the strongest item always = OP.
Anything apart from a flag, shoulder and shield with TD is OP imo.
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 03:38:00 AMAnything apart from a flag, shoulder and shield with TD is OP imo.
Aight, I'm cool with that.
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 03:26:58 AM
Quote from: Pokeh on September 22, 2012, 03:25:24 AM
>I can assure you, lots of us don't use T3 for the stats.
ya i was just pointing out that t3 is actually used mainly for the stats.
idk I get why it'd be a bad thing to ban it but then again it is cheap exp/gigas already >_<
Lots of people I know are just using it for the EXP bonus. /repeated for the 3rd or so time.
may be one of the reasons but definitely not the biggest one.
its the strongest set in game. i think it'll take more than an exp bonus to overlook that fact <_>
Sorry guise but -1. Look on the negative side.
I dont agree with this idea as whats the point? Some people worked SO HARD just to collect this rare items especially to play pvp using it, and some noobs collects this rare items just to be able to stand a chance to play against skilled players too, i am one of them.Doing this is totally destroyed their hard work they have put into this game and giving some people that didnt do anything to get benefits. So, whats the point for collecting this items for those people then? And the word "PVP" is player against player for one reason, its to see their skills and items they use to fight against each other, not restrict all the so called "OP" items so everyone is the same. If thats the case, might as well dont introduce any unique items and make sure everyone can get the same items so that its fair.
But, of course, this is just my comment, so you can choose whether to agree or not. So no offence and feel free to comment
Quote from: gombo08 on September 22, 2012, 05:14:31 AM
Sorry guise but -1. Look on the negative side.
I dont agree with this idea as whats the point? Some people worked SO HARD just to collect this rare items especially to play pvp using it, and some noobs collects this rare items just to be able to stand a chance to play against skilled players too, i am one of them.Doing this is totally destroyed their hard work they have put into this game and giving some people that didnt do anything to get benefits. So, whats the point for collecting this items for those people then? And the word "PVP" is player against player for one reason, its to see their skills and items they use to fight against each other, not restrict all the so called "OP" items so everyone is the same. If thats the case, might as well dont introduce any unique items and make sure everyone can get the same items so that its fair.
But, of course, this is just my comment, so you can choose whether to agree or not. So no offence and feel free to comment
You know, you don't
have to play in a {c} room.
EDIT/Off-Topic: and why do you have like a 12 year old girl in your signatures, that's kinda weird.
Quote from: gombo08 on September 22, 2012, 05:14:31 AM
Sorry guise but -1. Look on the negative side.
I dont agree with this idea as whats the point? Some people worked SO HARD just to collect this rare items especially to play pvp using it, and some noobs collects this rare items just to be able to stand a chance to play against skilled players too, i am one of them.Doing this is totally destroyed their hard work they have put into this game and giving some people that didnt do anything to get benefits. So, whats the point for collecting this items for those people then? And the word "PVP" is player against player for one reason, its to see their skills and items they use to fight against each other, not restrict all the so called "OP" items so everyone is the same. If thats the case, might as well dont introduce any unique items and make sure everyone can get the same items so that its fair.
But, of course, this is just my comment, so you can choose whether to agree or not. So no offence and feel free to comment
Agreed with Z. You can still use those items you "worked so hard for" (aka bought with real money...) in non-competitive rooms and sector rooms.
Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 22, 2012, 05:15:50 AM
Quote from: gombo08 on September 22, 2012, 05:14:31 AM
Sorry guise but -1. Look on the negative side.
I dont agree with this idea as whats the point? Some people worked SO HARD just to collect this rare items especially to play pvp using it, and some noobs collects this rare items just to be able to stand a chance to play against skilled players too, i am one of them.Doing this is totally destroyed their hard work they have put into this game and giving some people that didnt do anything to get benefits. So, whats the point for collecting this items for those people then? And the word "PVP" is player against player for one reason, its to see their skills and items they use to fight against each other, not restrict all the so called "OP" items so everyone is the same. If thats the case, might as well dont introduce any unique items and make sure everyone can get the same items so that its fair.
But, of course, this is just my comment, so you can choose whether to agree or not. So no offence and feel free to comment
You know, you don't have to play in a {c} room.
EDIT/Off-Topic: and why do you have like a 12 year old girl in your signatures, that's kinda weird.
Puss, thats me in the signature and i am 17.
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 05:16:53 AM
Quote from: gombo08 on September 22, 2012, 05:14:31 AM
Sorry guise but -1. Look on the negative side.
I dont agree with this idea as whats the point? Some people worked SO HARD just to collect this rare items especially to play pvp using it, and some noobs collects this rare items just to be able to stand a chance to play against skilled players too, i am one of them.Doing this is totally destroyed their hard work they have put into this game and giving some people that didnt do anything to get benefits. So, whats the point for collecting this items for those people then? And the word "PVP" is player against player for one reason, its to see their skills and items they use to fight against each other, not restrict all the so called "OP" items so everyone is the same. If thats the case, might as well dont introduce any unique items and make sure everyone can get the same items so that its fair.
But, of course, this is just my comment, so you can choose whether to agree or not. So no offence and feel free to comment
Agreed with Z. You can still use those items you "worked so hard for" (aka bought with real money...) in non-competitive rooms and sector rooms.
Errr Tricky, one thing to clear your ideal of my items. Some of the items wasn't bought using real money by me i earned them myself .
Did you "earn" Jura? The item that only exists in the game because of real money? That's one of the worst items that we are trying to ban here.
Hoho, i said some not "Jura" . Get it right ! ;D
I am just mentioning Jura as it's one of the more important items. You can use that in Sector, or non competitive rooms. Items like this will definitely be banned from {c} and {stk}.
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 05:28:10 AM
I am just mentioning Jura as it's one of the more important items. You can use that in Sector, or non competitive rooms. Items like this will definitely be banned from {c} and {stk}.
Sigh, alright then.
Don't see why you'd block anything else but II skills/ jura/ kow and maybe dark meto.
Most of the other items can be bought by new people that actually do something instead of qqing all day long on the forum about how op the items are.
But I see the point, nobody is forced to make or play in a {c} room.
These items should NOT be disallowed during stake PvP:
-Member Flags
-Zylon Flags
-Jack Head
-S EF
-P EF
-R EF
Main reason is because its unfair to those who earned them. They are quite expensive you know, so it's disappointing not being able to use them in PvP. Unless this is changed, -1.
Probably the only reason I log onto BC is to PvP. I also have a membership, so I'd like to make sure it gets used well. This wouldn't be true if member flags were removed in PvP. Also, I want to actually do something with my future TopGuild flag.
Quote from: xbaras on September 22, 2012, 05:52:28 AM
These items should NOT be disallowed during stake PvP:
-Dark Meto
-Member Flags
-Zylon Flags
-Jack Head
-S EF
-P EF
-R EF
Death Hunter (merc)
Double Blade (merc)
Xabaras (merc)
Main reason is because its unfair to those who earned them. They are quite expensive you know, so it's disappointing not being able to use them in PvP. Unless this is changed, -1.
It is not EARNING them to buy them via real money. How don't some people understand this. Although we greatly appreciate the people supporting us by buying cash items, they are still not "earned" in any skill way.
Meto/Zylon Flags/Member flags aren't earned through skill in any way.
Quote from: Yz on September 22, 2012, 05:54:05 AM
Quote from: xbaras on September 22, 2012, 05:52:28 AM
These items should NOT be disallowed during stake PvP:
-Dark Meto
-Member Flags
-Zylon Flags
-Jack Head
-S EF
-P EF
-R EF
Death Hunter (merc)
Double Blade (merc)
Xabaras (merc)
Main reason is because its unfair to those who earned them. They are quite expensive you know, so it's disappointing not being able to use them in PvP. Unless this is changed, -1.
It is not EARNING them to buy them via real money. How don't some people understand this. Although we greatly appreciate the people supporting us by buying cash items, they are still not "earned" in any skill way.
Meto/Zylon Flags/Member flags aren't earned through skill in any way.
What I meant was, people pay $30 for items they can't even use >_<
Again I have to repeat myself :[
No one is forcing you to play in {c} or in {stk}. They are paying for items they can use in non-competitive rooms and sector rooms.
@xab What don't you understand, nobody is forcing you to make or play in a {c} room.
You should also consider an addition to this, something like {c2} that would ban only kow/jura and II skills for the ones that enjoy pvping as it is at the moment, but hate being obliterated by flying kows and II skills.
Quote from: hawk5005 on September 22, 2012, 06:00:02 AM
@xab What don't you understand, nobody is forcing you to make or play in a {c} room.
You should also consider an addition to this, something like {c2} that would ban only kow/jura and II skills for the ones that enjoy pvping as it is at the moment, but hate being obliterated by flying kows and II skills.
+1 to that.
Quote from: 123bomb123 on September 22, 2012, 03:28:42 AM
Make a non-member room tag. so only non-members can join. ;D
+1
I don't think darkmeto should be in the list, ik it's op but the hits you do with darkmeto are the same with a normal rush hit, also hitting somebody with a gun is much harder then hitting him by normal attacks.
The only OP thing i seen in darkmeto would be the extra bullets
I like this except:
Metowings should be banned (No way should a Ram/Patch be able to outrun a lv172 Surge if they have these wings)
Jackhead (Doesn't give THAT much of a boost, mine has TG, and frankly I still untrans roughly the same time as my opponent maybe by 3 seconds which doesn't much a difference if you're a slow patch. I'm personally fine without using Jackhead but I really like it in terms of style. Kinda hate to see that leave my bot D:
In conclusion, 1 year jackheads, allowed, permanent, GTFO with caps and oreos.
I think the bonuses in exp if you have Tier sets should be depleted, what's the point of them anyways? Give stat boosted items boosted exp? Da faq kinda logic is that lol
keep the jack head
ban meto wings
ban walker bro
ban cherny
I like this.
OMG METO WINGS I FORGOT
yea ban that shit too. does anyone know how embarrassing it is to be a lvl 172 +7 bladdes surge and get outrun by a 221 patch and ram :(
I agree with this. +1
Quote from: KillerPig on September 22, 2012, 11:11:38 AM
OMG METO WINGS I FORGOT
yea ban that shit too. does anyone know how embarrassing it is to be a lvl 172 +7 bladdes surge and get outrun by a 221 patch and ram :(
dis ban meto wings and maybe walker bro aswell
edit: also add a delay from when rm presses start to when the game acctually start with all options being locked apart from exiting the room which would stop the game from starting, this is so that ***s can't change map to holo in last second or somthing
Take out attack bots.
/not reading 5 pages to see if it was mentioned.
Quote from: hawk5005 on September 22, 2012, 06:00:02 AM
@xab What don't you understand, nobody is forcing you to make or play in a {c} room.
You should also consider an addition to this, something like {c2} that would ban only kow/jura and II skills for the ones that enjoy pvping as it is at the moment, but hate being obliterated by flying kows and II skills.
this x1000
most pvpers are members who have jackhead, mem flags, mob boost sometimes, dm, etc. and they fine with it cuz most people they play against also have it
defs op items like jura/codered should be gone from any form of {c} rooms though
Just add a poll
Options:
Yes
No
Quote from: Xkiller712 on September 22, 2012, 07:50:16 PM
Just add a poll
Options:
Yes
No
There is no Yes/No. It's happening. What I am asking is what items should be banned in the communities opinion.
what poke/hawk said!
{c2} would be reaaaal good.
Perm jack head banned cause it gives overwhelming stats.
1year jackheads, no.
now that i think about it... +1 that shit
Quote from: nanak tatum on September 30, 2012, 11:57:06 PM
Also ban Mandragore. That thing is so annoying. and its nooby
If we'd block things that were annoying and nooby you wouldn't be here to talk. ::)
u do realize madragore is like one of the shittiest transes in existence right
Quote from: hawk5005 on October 01, 2012, 04:40:59 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on September 30, 2012, 11:57:06 PM
Also ban Mandragore. That thing is so annoying. and its nooby
If we'd block things that were annoying and nooby you wouldn't be here to talk. ::)
aw i wanted to say dat
sup hawk
Quote from: nanak tatum on October 01, 2012, 04:55:02 AM
uhm haha? I think that was supposed to be funny. Anyways I could care less about your opinion. I stand by mine.
Nope, not really, just good for taking out campers.
someone thinks mandragore is overpowered? lol u srs? that trans sucks!
mandragore is a good trans in holo but in competitive pvp it's nothing compared to lanny/over etc
no
its so easy to kill on holo too
its good when ur vsing campers
so if u think its good, it means ur a camper
ok how about this
next time u see me on make a holo room {ng|at}
u can be madragore ill be lanny
im mandragore king.
8)
Hi, guys. Anything else to add to the list?
I like the idea but what are the odds that a 172 is going to come up against a t3 player who is bad to the chances that youll find good players with t3...
Quote from: Frith on January 22, 2013, 09:56:44 AM
I like the idea but what are the odds that a 172 is going to come up against a t3 player who is bad to the chances that youll find good players with t3...
Elek +7 is only a little less powerful than T3, should we remove Elektra? Then should we remove Dark Surge & so on?
Members are supposed to have this advantage.
Im just saying it wasnt the best of points is all :-[
or if this is going to happen you could make a list and players could vote which need to be banned and which dont each month?
Members needs to have somethings. Elek +7 should not be removed.
Quote from: Frith on January 22, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
Im just saying it wasnt the best of points is all :-[
or if this is going to happen you could make a list and players could vote which need to be banned and which dont each month?
Wth? Lol why would something be OP one month then okay to play with the next month? No, they will stay banned in {c} forever.
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 10:12:44 AM
Members needs to have somethings.
oh poor members :'(
how will they show their goodness withouth elektra
:'(
Quote from: Yz on January 22, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: Frith on January 22, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
Im just saying it wasnt the best of points is all :-[
or if this is going to happen you could make a list and players could vote which need to be banned and which dont each month?
Wth? Lol why would something be OP one month then okay to play with the next month? No, they will stay banned in {c} forever.
your misunderstanding my point.. say all of them were banned so many players started to use one trans or something that had a big advantage over all others, add that trans to the list for a week or two and see how players adapt, does that make sense, like creating an even pvp game? lol idk, just a suggestion
not sure of the stats but should the GM Set be banned?
GM Set shouldn't be banned because the stats are like elek +7 and its only Ram.
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 01:56:59 PM
GM Set shouldn't be banned because the stats are like elek +7 and its only Ram.
what about the GM Trans? What stats does that give?
weeeeel a gm should be able to obey common rules in a competitive room, or atleast obey to them if asked
Quote from: Cooky on January 22, 2013, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 01:56:59 PM
GM Set shouldn't be banned because the stats are like elek +7 and its only Ram.
what about the GM Trans? What stats does that give?
GM Trans absolutely sucks.
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: Cooky on January 22, 2013, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 01:56:59 PM
GM Set shouldn't be banned because the stats are like elek +7 and its only Ram.
what about the GM Trans? What stats does that give?
GM Trans absolutely sucks.
so it gives no stats at all?
Quote from: Cooky on January 22, 2013, 02:30:06 PM
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: Cooky on January 22, 2013, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 01:56:59 PM
GM Set shouldn't be banned because the stats are like elek +7 and its only Ram.
what about the GM Trans? What stats does that give?
GM Trans absolutely sucks.
so it gives no stats at all?
Don't know, probably does. I'll check later.
Quote from: Iridion on January 22, 2013, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 10:12:44 AM
Members needs to have somethings.
oh poor members :'(
how will they show their goodness withouth elektra
:'(
In c tag everything above lvl 172 armor comverts to 172 +7 hehe
Quote from: Cooky on January 22, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
not sure of the stats but should the GM Set be banned?
Gm set has lvl 1 stats
GM Set doesn't have stats of a level one set.
Quote from: Selene on January 22, 2013, 02:40:57 PM
GM Set doesn't have stats of a level one set.
stupid killerpig you know nothing >: (
ya it does
Unless the stats were changed recently
GMTranspack = HP +200.
the gms don't even use the gm set, so it doesn't really matter imo.
GM set was NEVER lvl 1 stats. It had lvl 48 (or 58) stats in BOTS.
It should be banned, because it has Elek +7 variety of stats. TD Arms (or RA), Evade Head, TA body.
when sox had it she said it was lvl 1