Not as effective as high-server, especially cause a level 221 can go to 175 for you

Quote from: Rossbach on November 10, 2012, 01:20:34 AM

Quote from: leroy0690 on November 10, 2012, 01:14:38 AM
Low server is more of a challenge, maybe not in the sense that the enemies/viruses are more tough.
High server, all you do is leech off of a higher level.
Low server you actually have to be dedicated to the grind, you need to consistently do levels and actually work.
Perhaps it is more of a mental challenge then a physical challenge.
None the less it is still a physical challenge, seeing as in High Server you do nothing, so the standards for a challenge are set rather low.
Ross, is just trying to brag about how anything in sector is not an issue, but that's just Ross 

Quote from: Rossbach on November 09, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
Low server is not more challenging, besides the fact that there is few people to leech off of rather than high server which means *gasp* you need to do the sectoring yourself.

If the low server actually had a good player base, then it would be different. Besides, nothing is holding you back from leeching off the ones who play there such as Tz.

Im on forums everyday, and look at low... Tz is never there, but is PvPing in High-server with the normal people that do PvP.

Quote from: Yz on November 10, 2012, 01:17:49 AM

Quote from: leroy0690 on November 10, 2012, 01:14:38 AM
Low server is more of a challenge, maybe not in the sense that the enemies/viruses are more tough.
High server, all you do is leech off of a higher level.
Low server you actually have to be dedicated to the grind, you need to consistently do levels and actually work.
Perhaps it is more of a mental challenge then a physical challenge.
None the less it is still a physical challenge, seeing as in High Server you do nothing, so the standards for a challenge are set rather low.
Ross, is just trying to brag about how anything in sector is not an issue, but that's just Ross 

mfw not everyone on high leeches

Yes they do, lol

Quote from: spiderstar on November 10, 2012, 01:14:16 AM
Egyptian no offense but it looks like you made a striped background, copy and pasted the logo, and just copy and pasted a bunch of other pictures alongside it.   It just doesn't look good enough for a background in my opinion.

Thats how you say it. +1

Theres always someone tougher then you Tzeshuan, i was kidding... mostly. But you just straightup called his bg ugly. Say it nicely, and constructively.

Low progress demotivates me to continue.

Quote from: jinhongzhu on November 10, 2012, 12:45:36 AM
^ too much empty space. Ugly.

Your a ****

Now i request a beautiful award-winning gfx

No i dont hate anyone, I was saying how I felt about low server, I have a job not a lot of time to grind for 10 hours.

Mental difficulty is different ;O

Technically its an opinion on what you consider hard is, if you like staying up forever taking longer to get levels not hard then go play on low level.

But your a retard if you dont think that low is differently challenging compared to high server.

Regardless of your next post defending your case.

Your a tard for not believing that theres a difference that makes it a bit harder. 

Now your making false assumptions. You dont pay attention when you read do you, they're not equal but they are the foundation of what makes the low server more challenging. They are points to support my theory that the low-server is challenging compared to high-server. Do you get it now Ross?

"The equals sign, equality sign, or "=" is a mathematical symbol used to indicate equality"

Motivation, and a game being unbearable is just the SUM or RESULT of the server being challenging

It is not equal to.

Dank will take this as his win as you no longer have anything to support your claim. Good game.
Food for your thought.

K you don't get it, point is - There's different things that makes the low server unbearable and challenging to play comparatively.

Quote from: Rossbach on November 09, 2012, 10:28:19 PM

Quote from: DarkShadow89 on November 09, 2012, 10:14:01 PM

Quote from: Rossbach on November 09, 2012, 09:48:32 PM

Quote from: Rossbach on November 09, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
It is only more time consuming.

Takes longer to level up, takes longer to find good items. However as it takes longer to gain experience all your going to be doing is playing the same levels over and over, for a longer amount of time before you move up to the next lv.

More exp needed on low = you simply play that same lv over and over more times than you would do on high server. Also considering that you will be playing each level more times on low than high, the drops rate then are fairly equal.

ex:

High server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 20 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 10 games.

Low server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 40 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 20 games.

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That is just more time consuming to be playing on low. The sector levels in low are the exact same as in high, the sector levels are not more difficult or more easy. The only change is you will be doing each level more times on low than high, thus reaching the max lv on high faster than low. That is not more challenging, that is just more time consuming.


Here is another example:

Lets use parallel universes for this example.


So in one universe you chose to play on high. Oh the other you chose to play on low. In both of these universes you spend the same amount of time per day (lets say you spend 1 hour a day playing BC (just a random number,)) and you also follow the same strategy to level up. Ex: You start at lv 1, once you reach lv 5 you do start grinding lv 8 once your lv 10 you start grinding the next level in the list and ect. We will also say that you have never played before, thus you have no OP items, there were no other people to leech off of or play with, and you did no events.



High:

You spend 5 days soloing lv 1 to reach lv 5.


Low:
You spend 10 days soloing lv 1 to reach lv 5.


High:

You spend 20 days soloing lv 8 to reach lv 10.

Low:

You spend 40 days soloing lv 8 to reach lv 10.



Difference? More time consuming.  


Of course Ross did not include people or events into his example. Reason why:

Quote from: Rossbach on November 09, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
Low server is not more challenging, besides the fact that there is few people to leech off of rather than high server which means *gasp* you need to do the sectioning yourself, rather than leeching off some Korean.

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Ross went and looked at the mobs hp in low and high and they are the exact same. If you think spending more time to reach the max lv is more challenging, then go ahead and think that. IRo challenging = something hard like doing lv 200 with a lv 1. Rather than your opinion of just doing things over and over for a longer period of time. That is just boring and annoying.  

Stop trying to make yourself look smart by stating multiple scenarios in which validates your point, I got it the first time.

Sir, the time you put into the game, IS the challenging part. Its more challenging, because you sit up all night trying to grind the same level forever (in your example, no op items, events, no people to leech from)

No one said it was more difficult, it takes time and effort to beat levels all day for a longer time then usually with no one to leech from.

I stated it was more CHALLENGING therefore it being a variable to whatever, in my standards, is more challenging. I was on the same page, you didnt have to repeat.

Ross felt like you would not understand it the first time.  


Well that sounds fun. So apparently to you time is proportional to how challenging something is. So if you play on high server for 100 hours, and play on low server for 99 hours, does that make high server more challenging? Even if you reach the max level on high, you can still continue to play. You can even delete your account / make a new one and start all over again.

Just no note, difficulty does affect how challenging something is. That is why Ross brought up the lv 1 soloing lv 200 thing. Anyone can spend a long time to reach the max level in a game. However not every one can solo lv 200 with a item-less level 1.


Getting max lv first in a competitive game? Ya shur that can be challenging. Simply trying to reach the max lv in the game which no one / very low amount of people play, and they don't really care about getting first. Ok, gratz you completed your goal.

What your doing is taking what I said and ridiculing it without thinking first.

I meant the low box rates and exp + the extra time it takes. Is what makes it more "challenging"

The fact that you can't just SIT in a lobby and get leveled. And also the fact that if you win the level, you wont get better armor to help you fight the tougher enemies. The low exp creates the time length which drags out the day, and you have to be awake technically to play.. after playing long amounts of gameplay would drain the energy to want to play the same level over and over (more then high server) and therefore I would get sick of game, or sick of playing the same level.

Again. Stop with wall of texts.

And also, there is no motivation after 221 to get levels, no one would play CONSISTENTLY enough because they don't NEED to.

Stop with the bullshit scenarios that arent related to daily life, we were never talking about THE HOURS it takes of playing, were talking about the motivation to get to level 221 on the low server compared to high, which is the time difference.  I can play for 30 minutes a day, and be less motivated to grind AND GET LOW XP, compared to playing on high server and getting higher xp.

Quote from: Pokeh on November 09, 2012, 10:18:47 PM
no i hate techno wub wubs but i like trance and general electronic yes.

Yeah, i was over that shit my freshman year

I listen to stoner-ganster rap broskies( but not gay generic shit, the underground shit like Jedi Mind), definitely not going back to my techno/electronica/trance/dubstep/darkstep faze. Ill also listen to some metal sometimes

Quote from: Pokeh on November 09, 2012, 10:16:56 PM
hes been listening to too much young money

Aren't you a techno ***? Lol. Rather listen to "YUNG MULAH BABEH!" then beep noises and shit, and weird psychedelic trans music .

Quote from: Rossbach on November 09, 2012, 09:48:32 PM

Quote from: Rossbach on November 09, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
It is only more time consuming.

Takes longer to level up, takes longer to find good items. However as it takes longer to gain experience all your going to be doing is playing the same levels over and over, for a longer amount of time before you move up to the next lv.

More exp needed on low = you simply play that same lv over and over more times than you would do on high server. Also considering that you will be playing each level more times on low than high, the drops rate then are fairly equal.

ex:

High server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 20 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 10 games.

Low server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 40 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 20 games.

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That is just more time consuming to be playing on low. The sector levels in low are the exact same as in high, the sector levels are not more difficult or more easy. The only change is you will be doing each level more times on low than high, thus reaching the max lv on high faster than low. That is not more challenging, that is just more time consuming.


Here is another example:

Lets use parallel universes for this example.


So in one universe you chose to play on high. Oh the other you chose to play on low. In both of these universes you spend the same amount of time per day (lets say you spend 1 hour a day playing BC (just a random number,)) and you also follow the same strategy to level up. Ex: You start at lv 1, once you reach lv 5 you do start grinding lv 8 once your lv 10 you start grinding the next level in the list and ect. We will also say that you have never played before, thus you have no OP items, there were no other people to leech off of or play with, and you did no events.



High:

You spend 5 days soloing lv 1 to reach lv 5.


Low:
You spend 10 days soloing lv 1 to reach lv 5.


High:

You spend 20 days soloing lv 8 to reach lv 10.

Low:

You spend 40 days soloing lv 8 to reach lv 10.



Difference? More time consuming.  


Of course Ross did not include people or events into his example. Reason why:

Quote from: Rossbach on November 09, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
Low server is not more challenging, besides the fact that there is few people to leech off of rather than high server which means *gasp* you need to do the sectioning yourself, rather than leeching off some Korean.

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Ross went and looked at the mobs hp in low and high and they are the exact same. If you think spending more time to reach the max lv is more challenging, then go ahead and think that. IRo challenging = something hard like doing lv 200 with a lv 1. Rather than your opinion of just doing things over and over for a longer period of time. That is just boring and annoying.  

Stop trying to make yourself look smart by stating multiple scenarios in which validates your point, I got it the first time.

Sir, the time you put into the game, IS the challenging part. Its more challenging, because you sit up all night trying to grind the same level forever (in your example, no op items, events, no people to leech from)

No one said it was more difficult, it takes time and effort to beat levels all day for a longer time then usually with no one to leech from.

I stated it was more CHALLENGING therefore it being a variable to whatever, in my standards, is more challenging. I was on the same page, you didnt have to repeat.