[iwasbobo]

Can't find the thread where you debated truth being absolute or relative, so I'm just going to post this here.

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Using your own example against you (although you used it to prove a different point). You said that if a caveman was given a computer, he would assume it was from God. Although to him, the truth is God, there is an absolute truth of what the computer is/where it came from. Just because the caveman believes to the fullest of his heart that his theory is true, that doesn't make it a truth.

Truth is absolute.

[Surgeypurgey]

hi cjtown

[Bubu]

Why will you start this again... If there even exist an absolute truth, no human can know it because each of us see the world subjetively, no matter how harder we try to be objective, just by the fact that we live in a "community" we cant percive the universe and all non-material stuff totally objective because other people have a influence in our thinking, so the only part where that "absolute truth" could exist probably is, like Plato said in the Idea's world, and you will never get there, atleast not in your earthly life, and as far as i know there is no proves that other kind of life than the earthy one exists, therefore the truth for humans will be always relative...


**Sorry for fail grammar, wrote this at 11:30 really sleepy and so fast. I will correct it tomorrow**

[iwasbobo]

Because I missed my chance last time. =P

Even though we as humans don't know the absolute truth, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. For example, the battle between atheism and theism. Neither have been completely proven, however one is still the truth.

Provide an example where truth isn't absolute.

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hi patchy

[Allie]

We all agree truth is absolute: me, Opti and Xrow.
No need to prove what we have already proven.

[Iridion]

u nobs

[iwasbobo]

We all agree truth is absolute: me, Opti and Xrow.
No need to prove what we have already proven.

How was I not informed. D:<

[Allie]

We all agree truth is absolute: me, Opti and Xrow.
No need to prove what we have already proven.

How was I not informed. D:<

You're on the wrong game dude - there's no debates like this on the other forum.
Therefore you're not informed on our debates.

[Xrow]

I PROVE ZEES ALREADY, VHAT MORE YOU VANT FROM ME?

[Xrow]

Why will you start this again... If there even exist an absolute truth, no human can know it Doesn't matter if we know it, its still truth. Ex: Gravity existed before Newton knew about it. because each of us see the world subjetively, no matter how harder we try to be objective, just by the fact that we live in a "community" we cant percive the universe and all non-material stuff totally objective because other people have a influence in our thinking, The point of being objective is not to accept every possible truth as equally true, but to consider every possible truth equally. so the only part where that "absolute truth" could exist probably is, like Plato said in the Idea's world, and you will never get there, atleast not in your earthly life, and as far as i know there is no proves that other kind of life than the earthy one exists, therefore the truth for humans will be always relative... Is it absolutely true that truth will always be relative?

I felt like it.

[Optimism]

Truth is indeed absolute. However, this absolute truth will most likely never be determined (certainly not in our life-times).

So, the moral of the story is, ascribe your own meaning to life. While finding this meaning, keep in mind that we are all brothers and sisters -- I leave you with this post from a dying redditor.

http://i.imgur.com/QNx6X.jpg

Remember this -- an objective view of the world and the realization that no one culture supersedes another enables such a moral view. Let us all remember this .

Live and let live. Belief is always to be challenged if it infringes on another's way of life.

[Optimism]

I'm sorry, I've blundered.

If god exists and determinism is indeed present, then absolute truth exists.

However, if free will pervades itself throughout the universe, then absolute truth does not exist due to undetermined events.

AKA, one cannot be absolutely sure of absolute truth with regard to the future.

I stand corrected in my illogical thought process here.