[NeoKiller]

Dark Meto was always the same damage...

Hjuler could do 215 faster as a Surge back then, compared to now.

Since are gonna say things really, really out of whack, did you know Surge has 700k HP by lv 200?

Dark Metos dmg was also increased, I did 1371 dmg when the stat bonus was 5000, and I had all the bs needed.
Now I do around 1900 dmg with dark meto even though I have only 2,3m bs and the stat bonus is 3000 at 3m bs.
Surges became stronger, patches weaker. THat's why Hjulers time was better then TNP's, Hjuler did it as patch I think.

[hawk5005]

Dark Meto was always the same damage...

Hjuler could do 215 faster as a Surge back then, compared to now.

Since are gonna say things really, really out of whack, did you know Surge has 700k HP by lv 200?

Dark Metos dmg was also increased, I did 1371 dmg when the stat bonus was 5000, and I had all the bs needed.
Now I do around 1900 dmg with dark meto even though I have only 2,3m bs and the stat bonus is 3000 at 3m bs.
Surges became stronger, patches weaker. THat's why Hjulers time was better then TNP's, Hjuler did it as patch I think.

Applying your logic makes no sence...
You said Surges > Patches yet you said that Hjuler did it faster because he was a patch...
And YZ, you are wrong.
Few months ago Dark Meto had 200 dmg, now it has 445.

[Yz]

^Either way you used to hit like 1500 in PvP before the BS nerf so I won't believe this no matter what

Hjuler was a Surge not a Patch

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[NeoKiller]

Dark Meto was always the same damage...

Hjuler could do 215 faster as a Surge back then, compared to now.

Since are gonna say things really, really out of whack, did you know Surge has 700k HP by lv 200?

Dark Metos dmg was also increased, I did 1371 dmg when the stat bonus was 5000, and I had all the bs needed.
Now I do around 1900 dmg with dark meto even though I have only 2,3m bs and the stat bonus is 3000 at 3m bs.
Surges became stronger, patches weaker. THat's why Hjulers time was better then TNP's, Hjuler did it as patch I think.

Applying your logic makes no sence...
You said Surges > Patches yet you said that Hjuler did it faster because he was a patch...
And YZ, you are wrong.
Few months ago Dark Meto had 200 dmg, now it has 445.

What I meant is, surges became stronger because gun damge was increased, add the bs they have more gun dmg in total then they had 2 month before.
THe TA of a patch got lowered though, because the bs stat bonus got reduced from 5k to 3k.
I didn't say a surge is stronger then a patch...

[hawk5005]

Dark Meto back then dmg + 1mil bs + old bs stats = about ~1.5k dmg.
Dark Meto current dmg + 1mil bs + old bs stats = ~3k dmg.
Dark Meto current dmg + 1mil bs + new bs stats = ~1k dmg.

[Yz]

K so Hjuler lost a lot of damage and complained about doing 215 slower for no reason ok then OKOKOK

[NeoKiller]

Dark Meto back then dmg + 1mil bs + old bs stats = about ~1.5k dmg.
Dark Meto current dmg + 1mil bs + old bs stats = ~3k dmg.
Dark Meto current dmg + 1mil bs + new bs stats = ~1k dmg.

Dark Meto current dmg + 2mil bs + new bs stats = ~2k dmg.
Dark Meto current dmg + 3mil bs + new bs stats = ~3k dmg.

Now the bs has an effect up to 3m... which means you can have more then just 1m bs thus more gun dmg
Anyways, we're kinda going off topic, let's stop it here.

[Yz]

^ No, now you're just spurting nonsense...

I've had 3mil BS for a long time and I hit 2046 damage using dark meto as a surge with +7 elektra arm. Zylon can confirm as he's used my 3mil BS in the past...

Today I had 2.1mil and hit 1.65k :l

Now we can go ontopic (although this is kinda on topic as it's relating to speed run statistics) since the nonsense has been proven wrong..

[NeoKiller]

^ No, now you're just spurting nonsense...

I've had 3mil BS for a long time and I hit 2046 damage using dark meto as a surge with +7 elektra arm. Zylon can confirm as he's used my 3mil BS in the past...

Today I had 2.1mil and hit 1.65k :l

Now we can go ontopic (although this is kinda on topic as it's relating to speed run statistics) since the nonsense has been proven wrong..

ok but 2046 is still more then 1,5k, which was the max gun dmg before the gun dmg got increased and before the bs nerf :]

[Yz]

If you are wrong about all this I'm sure you are wrong about that too considering Hjuler got slower since the BS nerf

[NeoKiller]

If you are wrong about all this I'm sure you are wrong about that too considering Hjuler got slower since the BS nerf

ok I can't explain this myself lol

[denilligaal]

Robbe and Toast posted pics of when they had 5000 stat bonuses from BS

thus invalid. (at least Toast's is)

are you serious i got dark meto for not even a month and i did the rec when using dark meto
so NO i did it like a week ago so mine's legit and with 200-380k bs

[Yz]

Robbe and Toast posted pics of when they had 5000 stat bonuses from BS

thus invalid. (at least Toast's is)

are you serious i got dark meto for not even a month and i did the rec when using dark meto
so NO i did it like a week ago so mine's legit and with 200-380k bs

fair enough then but toast was 5000 lol

[denilligaal]

Robbe and Toast posted pics of when they had 5000 stat bonuses from BS

thus invalid. (at least Toast's is)

are you serious i got dark meto for not even a month and i did the rec when using dark meto
so NO i did it like a week ago so mine's legit and with 200-380k bs

fair enough then but toast was 5000 lol

its just a pretty easy lvl when u know how to do it you can kill mobs so easy with dark meto and rape bosses with ur TA my rec was done with boss push ofc

[mhj]

I used surge. The reason my time was that good was because of a random lag. The lag caused that I could shoot codered from a longer distance (they would normal block from there). That saved me around 4 sec. But TNPs time was good.