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Started by Gramps, July 01, 2012, 05:46:31 PM

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Gramps

A gm gun isn't really op compared to a +7 elektra TA II skilled patch. They were before the bs nerf though. We could argue all day about this, but having a gm gun doesn't even come close to having over 20m gp a guild shouldn't have/END/not arguing over past crap.
Pig, i have quit, (dunno why i still have forum admin) i will only return if this game is made fair/point to this thread.
Ice, pointless post, reason above.

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Corr

I came up with the idea 2 years ago when the new armors were introduced along with the EXP system.

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Meteor

I don't even have gm gun so I'm fine. :)

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Santa

Quote from: Meteor on July 03, 2012, 05:40:18 AM
I don't even have gm gun so I'm fine. :)
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GavinGill

Quote from: zepher2211 on July 03, 2012, 01:48:12 AM2. I was disagreeing with competition being the main focus, I believe the social part was the real focus, or else they would have given more weight on gp, such as rewards towards the guilds (thinking about the way other games developers handle it with guild buffs and stuff) as is unless you focus on rankings the only time you'll ever see gp is like a side note in the guild summary thing that some members don't look at lol
Ah, kk. Difference of opinions I guess.

Quote from: zepher2211 on July 03, 2012, 01:48:12 AM3. I was referencing the fact that you said being a guild leader is supposed to take skill such as holding members in your guild, and losing them is penalized by the loss of gp, considering my guilds long running track record with members and gp xD
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Nucleaon

I support the idea of a GP reset. Start off from scratch would definitely make this game better and make a lot of players come back.


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zepher2211

Quote from: Yz on July 03, 2012, 04:15:34 AM
Ice did that for you Muncay.

I do agree on the whole GM Gun thing, if this reset does happen I'll put my GM acc in Zylon Staff -- or I'll stop using my GM Gun at all. (even though we don't really use it for hardcore grinds, so it'd be for assurance)

I don't recall saying otherwise, I said I was the one that requested, but that might have been in a p.m, don't remember
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Iridion

so much drama y u no have a long ass bitch fit


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Scythe

Quote from: Nucleaon on July 03, 2012, 06:20:35 AM
I support the idea of a GP reset. Start off from scratch would definitely make this game better and make a lot of players come back.
And make the guild slots like 20 max
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loewe98

Quote from: Corr on July 02, 2012, 01:38:11 AM
Quote from: 123bomb123 on July 02, 2012, 01:32:22 AM
@Gavin's sig, you can't undo every GP transfer so just reset it all.

@sora, first overall guild for the month gets a flag for all members?
A flag won't do anything Missy. >________>, sometimes it's better to flat out punish and break rather than give an unlimited number of chances. I may sound like a conspirator but at least I back it up. Only reason why ICE gets his GP transferred or anyone else that's up there in terms of money/power/authority/major popularity is because of all those reasons. It shouldn't be that way because it's just morally wrong, get it.

I like the idea of resetting everyone's GP right now but peeps are just gonna ragequit, you gotta nip this shit in the butt to create stability again, otherwise you're playing with a broken system and a ****ed up hierarchy.

@OG ice is true story ... lol ..

kandra

if u guys reset the gp and keum comes back he will suicide for sure

speedy101

stop resaying the guild capacity holy crap we get 20/30 member and to ever who said take it down 5 members at a time why not just get rid of all the guilds and start new its the same as reseting it will get rid of inactive ones too
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Iridion

Quote from: speedy101 on July 03, 2012, 01:29:56 PM
stop resaying the guild capacity holy crap we get 20/30 member and to ever who said take it down 5 members at a time why not just get rid of all the guilds and start new its the same as reseting it will get rid of inactive ones too
waaat


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Jeffalo13

July 03, 2012, 10:12:22 PM #119 Last Edit: July 03, 2012, 11:50:07 PM by Jeffalo13
I totally agree with Gavin's post a few pages back.  All BoutCheetah is anymore is just grinding sector - I don't even really feel much nostalgia from Acclaim's BOTS, since, as Gavin said, only 20% of the greatness of BOTS is present in the current BoutCheetah.  

My $0.02:

I think PvP/BvB exp should be drastically increased.  You may say 'NO!!  PEOPLE WILL ABUSE THAT AND LEVEL UP FAST!!'.  Well, to that I say how is someone abusing PvP/BvB any different from getting a level 1, finding a friend that is 221, having them grind 228 in 2 minutes on hard and getting 10k exp.  I'd rather have two revived modes that a small minority will abuse for exp than have one legitimately playable mode.  For most people, I think, sector only has a limited amount of interest compared to the other two modes.  I mean, for God's sake - you play the same identical thing EVERY time (which is the computer), when you could be playing against the other players of the game.  I would take a game that everyone is maxed out in level and just PvP/BvBs much rather than a game with monotonous repetition of the same level, playing against the computer.  How is that any different than a game in which it is easy to abuse the multiplayer part of the game?  I mean, I don't even really know the rates in PvP/BvB as there is no one to ever play them in, but I know that they are not very high.  What if you doubled, even tripled or quadrupled that amount?  Especially in BvB, it is very difficult to get exp, which is why no on is ever in that mode.  That would make GP and exp actually possible to attain in PvP, and you would actually have fun doing it.    For example, an OK game of base would 15, maybe 20 minutes long.  In that time, you would earn probably a few hundred, maybe a couple thousand (over-estimate), exp.  If you spent 10 minutes of 228 on hard during 3x, you earn 40k+ exp, assuming you're taking 2.5 minutes each round.  Because of this, there are virtually no new players (i.e. not from BOTS Acclaim) that want to spend a longer time obtaining almost no exp.  

I think a reset of GP + 30 member limit would be best for guilds.  It would probably be best to split the current amounts into some type of archived section, so that people that spent a lot of time would still have the proof of their hard work somewhere.  However, now that BoutCheetah is much less hackable than before, the new GP amounts would be much more credible.  A lower limit for max players in a guild would allow for more competition between guilds, as all of the more experienced players could not all be in a couple of guilds, so there would be more than two or three rivalries.

The market is beyond repair.  +8 would be ridiculous, and when you have a paid section of the game, it is almost impossible to have a legitimate economic system.  It just doesn't work.

Sooooo...... that's 4/5 ;o.

Example:

16:46 BvB game gives 110 exp
http://i48.tinypic.com/35lr9ky.png

1:38 Sector game, level 215 doing level 66 gives 120 exp
http://i48.tinypic.com/2rlyohi.png
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