[KillerPig]

Nanak ur bad pls

dont listen to people who don't know what they're talking about (Nanak)

[KillerPig]

Nope.

Responding with "no" isn't saying anything. At least put in why..

I say no because I'm a biased surge user and even if I barely play I still enjoy my speed which is the only reason I don't constantly lose in holo or in any other games against always transed rams (and if they have kow/ white-super-mega-hitbox-ninja the speed does't even make a difference anymore). I'm not even taking patches in consideration because rarely anyone plays with patch, and if they do they camp 24/7 with upper, and even with 20% speed nerf they would still camp.

wow ur bad

just nerf speed

[123bomb123]

Yz, pls make it happen.

[123bomb123]

bump

[MagicXR]

+1

[ghostkid17]

+1, max speed is like 1900+ or so, that's too much.

[ghostkid17]

+1, max speed is like 1900+ or so, that's too much.

1850*

Santa shoulder 28
Rudolf 28
Base 1000
S ef 93
Halloween trans 85
Tier 3 427
Meto wings 165
+Member flags 150
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   1976
As I said, too much.

[Rossbach]

If you are annoyed with the speed, put Bot speed tag on. everyone will be same speed.

I knew someone would say this  

that's for pvp/base only..

What is wrong with having speed for Sector? Besides surges are only good at speed running the lower lv maps, the higher lv maps are all about ram combing, and the new 1p/8p modes have some use for Patches.  



1976 speed is that that much, especially considering you would have to wear hallo trans which is no good for PvP, and rudolf/santa is expensive, and the stats are not as good as +4 shield/shoulder, same can be considered with the EF. If you can't handle that much speed then =/ sigh. BOTS!! max speed was around 1600, 1976 is not bad for a lv 221 compared to a BOTS!! lv 100, more level difference = more sets = higher rise in stats in order to keep leveling players happy.. There is always the speed tag in PvP / base, or you could ask other people to strip their speed.

[Epic xD]

Max speed for a surge on Bots was about 1.3k.

[nourr993]

Lol noob i luv OPness AND it sounds like a lot of work to me soo :p
@epic xD then go play bots at bots.zylongaming.com

[123bomb123]

I am really sorry about that but 1-...

To be honest, the more speed I have the better I can play and the more things I can do with more speed, (Like the better I can PvP and do other things faster rather than slower espically as a surge) instead of having a hard time running from a transformed player with less speed I can run and defend from that player with ease with the more speed I have ^.^

You may think I am crazy but if so, then try the Bot speeds and see how you fair!

Are you honestly being serious?

[123bomb123]

We'd do it to make surges less OP and not the most popular bot-type by a huge margin.

[Rossbach]

We'd do it to make surges less OP and not the most popular bot-type by a huge margin.

Ross already suggested an idea for that. 


Besides there is a rise in Patches and Rams nowadays due to Sector.

[Epic xD]

Max speed in bots was 1381.

The max speed is now in the 1900s. It's not just like I'm gonna play the Bots version when nobody plays it. Sacrificing a small amount of speed isn't really a big deal. Surges are still fast; they just aren't quite as fast as they used to be. I'd say having 80-90% speed is still fast -- it just makes the game more balanced.

[HyperShadic6]

I agree they need to work on patches....
I would say +1, nerf the speed because the speed seems just too much. It is too fast and it may be good for pvping but it is unfair to other bot types. Say I was ram lvl 172 full +7 set pvping a lvl 172 surge full +7 set. Ram have alot of TG and surges have alot of speed. If me ( ram) i was still in trans and the surge was in normal bot mode the surge will most likely run away from me since he/she is weak against trans bots giving the surges another advantage. By the time the ram goes back to normal bot the surge is probably transed by then so it does deal a lot of damage to the ram and because of the little speed rams have and the impressive speed the surges have there is no way for a ram to run away from a surge.