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Base Update - requires input from players

Started by Santa, December 25, 2013, 02:46:41 PM

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Santa

List things you want to see added, changed, or removed from Base, and if others agree with you I will be modifying this topic to contain every change that will be done to Base.

Thanks.

Iridion



Quote from: Madproxyes because Iri & Kp can change the rules!
thats how we roll maddie

Epic xD

December 25, 2013, 02:58:10 PM #2 Last Edit: December 25, 2013, 05:05:11 PM by Epic xD
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiWdsnH_fRCWdGRSMXdZUVJFQUxjTlZIam9ra2trOUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
^This plus readjusting HP drop rates for each mercenary will solve any problems with mercs.

Also, the OP items tag should be updated...
-Meto Jack
-Member flags
-Raid armor
-Miasma
-Dark Bot
-Reaper flags
-I would say +4 shoulders and shields for diversity in builds, which this game severely lacks

As long as mercs such as Xab and Turret are readjusted, I can't think of anything else off the top of my head that should be banned in the OP tag...

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

Santa

Quote from: Epic xD on December 25, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiWdsnH_fRCWdGRSMXdZUVJFQUxjTlZIam9ra2trOUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
^This plus readjusting HP drop rates for each mercenary will solve any problems with mercs.

Also, the OP items tag should be updated...
-Meto Jack
-Member flags
-Raid armor
-I would say +4 shoulders and shields for diversity in builds, which this game severely lacks

As long as mercs such as Xab and Turret are readjusted, I can't think of anything else off the top of my head that should be banned in the OP tag...

Alright, for each merc can you do the following:

Merc Name - % hp respawn

Zain123456

Quote from: Epic xD on December 25, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiWdsnH_fRCWdGRSMXdZUVJFQUxjTlZIam9ra2trOUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
^This plus readjusting HP drop rates for each mercenary will solve any problems with mercs.

Also, the OP items tag should be updated...
-Meto Jack
-Member flags
-Raid armor
-I would say +4 shoulders and shields for diversity in builds, which this game severely lacks

As long as mercs such as Xab and Turret are readjusted, I can't think of anything else off the top of my head that should be banned in the OP tag...
i agree
Wonder how some ppl got gm?is simple!!they paied real money!!

Epic xD

Quote from: Santa on December 25, 2013, 03:04:38 PM
Alright, for each merc can you do the following:

Merc Name - % hp respawn
The only thing I can give you are estimates since I'm not sure how much is really fair. I know which mercs should drop more HP, but I'm not sure on the exact quantities. I'd really need to test that with you in order to make this as effective, fair, accurate, and professional as possible.

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

Corr

Make all the bases HP in every map equal too the HP of the Blue Industrobe base map.

Make all the bases TD in every map equal too the TD of the Blue Industrobe base map.

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Reviax

Quote from: Epic xD on December 25, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
Also, the OP items tag should be updated...
-Meto Jack
-Member flags
-Raid armor
-I would say +4 shoulders and shields for diversity in builds, which this game severely lacks
^Also add Miasma and Darkbot (or whatever the hell it's called) to that list.

Epic xD

Quote from: Corr on December 25, 2013, 03:52:09 PM
Make all the bases HP in every map equal too the HP of the Blue Industrobe base map.

Make all the bases TD in every map equal too the TD of the Blue Industrobe base map.
Yes, this is actually true. The blue base in Industrobe has more HP than the red base; the red base should have the same HP as the blue one...

Quote from: Reviax on December 25, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
^Also add Miasma and Darkbot (or whatever the hell it's called) to that list.
I updated my list.

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

Santa

Quote from: Epic xD on December 25, 2013, 03:30:47 PM
Quote from: Santa on December 25, 2013, 03:04:38 PM
Alright, for each merc can you do the following:

Merc Name - % hp respawn
The only thing I can give you are estimates since I'm not sure how much is really fair. I know which mercs should drop more HP, but I'm not sure on the exact quantities. I'd really need to test that with you in order to make this as effective, fair, accurate, and professional as possible.

Estimates are a good start, I can release it then you guys can test it and tell me what changes should be made from there.

Reviax

Quote from: Epic xD on December 25, 2013, 04:04:35 PMI updated my list.
Silver just reminded me that the new Reaper flag should be on the OP list as well.

qolderman

IGN: Caustic



^thanks cooky <3
Quote from: Cooky on August 03, 2014, 12:05:07 AM
whats wrong with eating a sock

Epic xD

Quote from: Santa on December 25, 2013, 04:14:35 PM
Estimates are a good start, I can release it then you guys can test it and tell me what changes should be made from there.
I put some rough estimates down on the same Google doc. I want feedback from some other basers, so those values might change.

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

Bombz


KillerPig

Quote from: Dannii on December 25, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
remove base completely.
DONT listen to this

Quote from: Epic xD on December 25, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiWdsnH_fRCWdGRSMXdZUVJFQUxjTlZIam9ra2trOUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0
^This plus readjusting HP drop rates for each mercenary will solve any problems with mercs.

Also, the OP items tag should be updated...
-Meto Jack
-Member flags
-Raid armor
-Miasma
-Dark Bot
-Reaper flags
-I would say +4 shoulders and shields for diversity in builds, which this game severely lacks

As long as mercs such as Xab and Turret are readjusted, I can't think of anything else off the top of my head that should be banned in the OP tag...
DO listen to this


in the future (like way after all this stuff has been fixed) we can toss you guys a map idea we have.

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Cooky

remove base and replace with revamped race mode

LightRequiem

Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
Remove the most skillful and only unique feature this game has over other games for a mode that is vastly inferior to every other racer. Nice.

JustRK

adding the PVP tags that I listed into base  http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=48944.0

didn't list osk so Idk why people posted about that one  :P

Cooky

Quote from: LightRequiem on December 26, 2013, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
Remove the most skillful and only unique feature this game has over other games for a mode that is vastly inferior to every other racer. Nice.

i think its safe to say u disagree with my idea

Iridion

Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
im not hating on your mode but this is one of the most stupid and arrogant things you've ever said


Quote from: Madproxyes because Iri & Kp can change the rules!
thats how we roll maddie

Cooky

Quote from: Iridion on December 26, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
im not hating on your mode but this is one of the most stupid and arrogant things you've ever said

stupid I can understand.. but arrogant? give me a break

the possibilities of race mode are endless and I truly think if it got revamped and made into its own mode it would be a lot more popular then base will ever be

Purple

Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: Iridion on December 26, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
im not hating on your mode but this is one of the most stupid and arrogant things you've ever said

stupid I can understand.. but arrogant? give me a break

the possibilities of race mode are endless and I truly think if it got revamped and made into its own mode it would be a lot more popular then base will ever be

base has more depth than race will ever have

base is better than race will ever be



^**** im special xd

Cooky

its obvious we disagree purple, and that's fine.. im not surprised

but for all fairness purposes I would appreciate if you didn't word your opinions as facts

Xx Itz Ian

Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: Iridion on December 26, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
im not hating on your mode but this is one of the most stupid and arrogant things you've ever said

stupid I can understand.. but arrogant? give me a break

the possibilities of race mode are endless and I truly think if it got revamped and made into its own mode it would be a lot more popular then base will ever be

very stupid indeed sry to say but base is the only thing thats actually FUN to do in bc.
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Cooky

I knew everyone would disagree with my idea but im not scared to share my opinion

yolo

Iridion

Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: Iridion on December 26, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
im not hating on your mode but this is one of the most stupid and arrogant things you've ever said

stupid I can understand.. but arrogant? give me a break

the possibilities of race mode are endless and I truly think if it got revamped and made into its own mode it would be a lot more popular then base will ever be

not in a robot fighting game l0l


Quote from: Madproxyes because Iri & Kp can change the rules!
thats how we roll maddie

Cooky

Quote from: Iridion on December 26, 2013, 05:57:48 PM
not in a robot fighting game l0l

that's the thing

all u can do in the game is fight

fighting a base.. fighting other players.. fighting enemies..  but with a new mode like race it could make the game more then just a robot fighting game

Iridion

Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: Iridion on December 26, 2013, 05:57:48 PM
not in a robot fighting game l0l

that's the thing

all u can do in the game is fight

fighting a base.. fighting other players.. fighting enemies..  but with a new mode like race it could make the game more then just a robot fighting game

who wants more? i dont want to do triathlon in cod

if i wanted to race with robots id download a robot racing game XD

also thats a very generic way to describe a game, way too much generic


Quote from: Madproxyes because Iri & Kp can change the rules!
thats how we roll maddie

Cooky

running a triathlon in cod would be stupid because the way the game is isn't fit for it and it would be no fun, I think that's a poor example

but with bout cheetah a fun race mode is already possible and with revamped maps and stuff it could really take off

I could get into more details but I rly don't feel like it can we just end this and say we disagree ok

Iridion

Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 06:10:21 PM
running a triathlon in cod would be stupid because the way the game is isn't fit for it and it would be no fun, I think that's a poor example

but with bout cheetah a fun race mode is already possible and with revamped maps and stuff it could really take off

I could get into more details but I rly don't feel like it can we just end this and say we disagree ok

yeah racing in bc is so funny, double tap and jump repeat

pls this is more interesting that the base update


Quote from: Madproxyes because Iri & Kp can change the rules!
thats how we roll maddie

Cooky

Quote from: Iridion on December 26, 2013, 06:15:13 PM
yeah racing in bc is so funny, double tap and jump repeat

pls this is more interesting that the base update

if race mode got revamped it would be a lot more then just double tap and jump repeat

its more then that already

Bombz

cooky you're being really defensive with race mode. ._.

base > race

Cooky

Quote from: Bombz on December 26, 2013, 06:28:48 PM
cooky you're being really defensive with race mode. ._.

base > race

there's a difference between disagreeing with people and having a good debate and being defensive...

I said from the start that I expected no one to agree with me and im fine with that

123bomb123

base has so many facets while race has like 2
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Quote from: Yz on January 14, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
mrz is like top 40 and would probly be like
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Reviax

Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
lol'd @ first

but then realized u were srs

shittiest idea ever

Cooky

 u don't know how it could be revamped

obviously replacing the current base mode with the current race mode would be the dumbest idea but im saying a revamped race mode

its just what I would prefer and what I think would be a more popular mode then base mode

I think it says something about the base community that theres more race mode bashing on this thread then base mode supporting


Selene

Stop talking about Race mode please. If you want to talk about Race mode make a new topic.

KillerPig

suggestion num 2

split op tag into 2 separate tags:
op tag
stat cap tag

op tag will make it so people cant use their op merc, gun, all that shit

stat cap tag will cap everyones stat to a fair amount.
any stat that is over the set max will be capped to this max
any stat under the max will stay the same

EXAMPLE PLS:
my ram has 100 tg, 150 ta, 200 td
the stat cap only allows 90 tg, 100 ta and 250 td

my rams tg will go to 90, ta will go down to 100, and td will stay the same since it is below the cap

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Quote from: KillerPig on December 26, 2013, 08:44:43 PM
suggestion num 2

split op tag into 2 separate tags:
op tag
stat cap tag

op tag will make it so people cant use their op merc, gun, all that ****

stat cap tag will cap everyones stat to a fair amount.
any stat that is over the set max will be capped to this max
any stat under the max will stay the same

EXAMPLE PLS:
my ram has 100 tg, 150 ta, 200 td
the stat cap only allows 90 tg, 100 ta and 250 td

my rams tg will go to 90, ta will go down to 100, and td will stay the same since it is below the cap
have a generally accepted default stat cap tag too.
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Quote from: Yz on January 14, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
mrz is like top 40 and would probly be like
"fuk yeh n00bs im god bow to god''

Iridion

Quote from: KillerPig on December 26, 2013, 08:44:43 PM
suggestion num 2

split op tag into 2 separate tags:
op tag
stat cap tag

op tag will make it so people cant use their op merc, gun, all that ****

stat cap tag will cap everyones stat to a fair amount.
any stat that is over the set max will be capped to this max
any stat under the max will stay the same

EXAMPLE PLS:
my ram has 100 tg, 150 ta, 200 td
the stat cap only allows 90 tg, 100 ta and 250 td

my rams tg will go to 90, ta will go down to 100, and td will stay the same since it is below the cap

but with this a very high level, with only certain stats at a high level, can cap stats that are bad for him

for example a surge that hates ta and has a lot of td will cap all the td so hes covered on that side


Quote from: Madproxyes because Iri & Kp can change the rules!
thats how we roll maddie

LightRequiem

Stat caps are a good idea because they allow players to use armor such as Elektra and T3 without having a ridiculous advantage. Basically, you can cap the amount of basic attack, attack in trans, HP, TA, TD, speed, etc. However, this only really works with the OP tag because you need the OP tag to ban items such as member flags that allow for patches/rams to get speed. For example, if you were to cap the speed stat at 1453, a surge (because member flags and other items such as S ef would be banned) with a higher speed stat would be moved down to 1453 speed. Bots with less than 1453 speed would be unaffected.

Iridion

but wont stat caps get rid of differences between bot types?


Quote from: Madproxyes because Iri & Kp can change the rules!
thats how we roll maddie

Epic xD

Quote from: Iridion on December 27, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
but wont stat caps get rid of differences between bot types?
Not if you cap stats at 172 armor?????????????

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

Iridion

Quote from: Epic xD on December 27, 2013, 02:30:28 PM
Quote from: Iridion on December 27, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
but wont stat caps get rid of differences between bot types?
Not if you cap stats at 172 armor?????????????
by following pig's idea
bot A is a patch and rely much on his td and ta to defend from bot B, which is a surge that uses his high speed at his advantage
if bot A (lets say he has 600 speed while B has 2000) uses the tag to cap speed at his own value (600) he wont be affected by the tag, but only bot B will
this way bot A can use the tag to his advantage only making the game even more unbalanced right?


Quote from: Madproxyes because Iri & Kp can change the rules!
thats how we roll maddie

mygodZzZ

Quote from: Dannii on December 25, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
remove base completely.
Quote from: Cooky on December 26, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
remove base and replace with revamped race mode
Yall think you're so funny, Base isn't gonna delete, if you want a revamped Race mode this will be on sector update, not base..
So you don't like base! Not our prob accualy, shouldn't get some "revamped race mode" only becuase you don't like Base, this suggestion on next sector update pl0x..

About Suggestion to Base mode, So here it is
I don't know if you would like it but Add Lv. 149 (sector map) To Base, this will be more interesintg and stuff.. Bigger place to run, harder to defence Base like that and i think it would make Base mode really interesting!
Hope you like my Idea!





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Quote from: KillerPig on December 27, 2013, 04:48:58 PM
each bot type will have their own cap
lmao sad it has to be like this, shows how broken and op most items are.

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Quote from: Yz on January 14, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
mrz is like top 40 and would probly be like
"fuk yeh n00bs im god bow to god''

Ramk1ng

I suggest that the mercs are better capeble of going backwards to own base becuase often u see that the mercs just stand in 1 line in front of base but wont attack the player attacking the base. They sometimes just stand their and do literally nothing.


Xx Itz Ian

December 28, 2013, 09:59:09 AM #48 Last Edit: December 28, 2013, 10:03:04 AM by Xx Itz Ian
The following things might also be usefull to add

-a lives tag which allows you to change the amount of lives mobs/players have
-a timer tag which makes you able to set a timer on the game, if the timer ends before there is a winner the game will be a draw
-nerf dh/turret/xab in bvb??

I like the idea to make a 1v1v1 / 2v2v2 map in bvb but not sure if people agree with me here.

Maybe make a new bvb map with not just a base but also defensive objectives such as turrets that defend the base which have to be destroyed before the base can be damaged, these objectives have only 1 live and can be enabled/disabled with a tag.
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December 28, 2013, 02:34:40 PM #49 Last Edit: December 29, 2013, 02:52:30 PM by mygodZzZ
Ian, i like your idea about 2v2v2, 1v1v1 is just boring, if we could add some more slots for game we could make 3v3v3..

as i sugguested b4 (and  noone noticed) Add 149 Sector map, to base mode.

and another idea i thought of: Defencive base, offencive base.
So, Defencive base will have A wall, defending the base, with all players/ merces inside, only that side of base will can go in/out this wall.
So the offencive will have same def (as player) to themselfs, but more attack and they will have more lives.
So while they attack the wall, attempting to reach the base, the defencive side will kill them as they attack.
so this is basically Player Vs Base mode (yeah i know it sounds kinda dub, but think about it. it could be fun!)





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Quote from: Ramk1ng on December 28, 2013, 09:17:25 AM
I suggest that the mercs are better capeble of going backwards to own base becuase often u see that the mercs just stand in 1 line in front of base but wont attack the player attacking the base. They sometimes just stand their and do literally nothing.


1) You don't know how to effectively move your mercs around. That's your problem.
2) Mercs have a specific AI that makes them react differently to players. Some mercs happen to be unresponsive defensively (Nimba AI).

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

Iridion

Quote from: mygodZzZ on December 28, 2013, 02:34:40 PM
Ian, i like your idea about 2v2v2, 1v1v1 is just boring, if we could add some more slots for game we could make 3v3v3..

as i sugguested b4 (and  noone noticed) Add 149 Sector map, to base mode.

and another idea i thought of: Defencive base, offencive base.
So, Defencive base will have A wall, defending the base, with all players/ merces inside, only that side of base will can go in/out this wall.
So the offencive will have same def (as player) to themselfs, but more attack and they will have more lives.
So while they attack the wall, attempting to reach the base, the defencive side will kill them as they attack.
the offencive side won't have a base, so this is basically Player Vs Base mode (yeah i know it sounds kinda dub, but think about it. it could be fun!)
i didnt rly understand
are you talking about a base but with no players on its side?


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mygodZzZ

Quote from: Iridion on December 28, 2013, 04:42:07 PM
Quote from: mygodZzZ on December 28, 2013, 02:34:40 PM
Ian, i like your idea about 2v2v2, 1v1v1 is just boring, if we could add some more slots for game we could make 3v3v3..

as i sugguested b4 (and  noone noticed) Add 149 Sector map, to base mode.

and another idea i thought of: Defencive base, offencive base.
So, Defencive base will have A wall, defending the base, with all players/ merces inside, only that side of base will can go in/out this wall.
So the offencive will have same def (as player) to themselfs, but more attack and they will have more lives.
So while they attack the wall, attempting to reach the base, the defencive side will kill them as they attack.
so this is basically Player Vs Base mode (yeah i know it sounds kinda dub, but think about it. it could be fun!)
i didnt rly understand
are you talking about a base but with no players on its side?
What? no..
Base 1: with wall, door and players inside,  only players can go in  and out.
Base 2: without wall, need to attack the wall to get in. Base 1 attacks them if they not succede to break the wall and base till they all dead, Base 1 simply Attacks Base 2's base..

Nvm, it sounds stupid lol





Iridion

Quote from: mygodZzZ on December 29, 2013, 02:51:05 PM
Quote from: Iridion on December 28, 2013, 04:42:07 PM
Quote from: mygodZzZ on December 28, 2013, 02:34:40 PM
Ian, i like your idea about 2v2v2, 1v1v1 is just boring, if we could add some more slots for game we could make 3v3v3..

as i sugguested b4 (and  noone noticed) Add 149 Sector map, to base mode.

and another idea i thought of: Defencive base, offencive base.
So, Defencive base will have A wall, defending the base, with all players/ merces inside, only that side of base will can go in/out this wall.
So the offencive will have same def (as player) to themselfs, but more attack and they will have more lives.
So while they attack the wall, attempting to reach the base, the defencive side will kill them as they attack.
so this is basically Player Vs Base mode (yeah i know it sounds kinda dub, but think about it. it could be fun!)
i didnt rly understand
are you talking about a base but with no players on its side?
What? no..
Base 1: with wall, door and players inside,  only players can go in  and out.
Base 2: without wall, need to attack the wall to get in. Base 1 attacks them if they not succede to break the wall and base till they all dead, Base 1 simply Attacks Base 2's base..

Nvm, it sounds stupid lol

i still dont get it y would a base not have a wall????


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123bomb123

@whoever said 3 teams in base. how does that work. If you have 3 bases then 1 will always be the one to get screwed over and it would be unfair

ex.
...............^base two^
                          |
base 1--------------------base 3

so base 1 and base 3 are closest to base two so who's most likely going to get teamed on/attacked when 1 or 3 goes on offense? Also, don't mercs just go straight when on offense unless you direct them? seems shitty for base 2 to me :[

I guess if you put 3 bases in an x map (one part off) kind of shape it wouldn't suk shit as bad tho


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Quote from: Yz on January 14, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
mrz is like top 40 and would probly be like
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Cooky

a 3 base game wouldn't really work because theres 8 slots in a room and so you couldn't have 3 even teams unless they changed the amount of room slots

plus the problems 123bomb123 mentioned

a 4 base game with 4 teams of 2 might be interesting  :o

Xx Itz Ian

The only way 2v2v2 could work without the problm you mention is a triangle map with a base on each corner.

Cooky thats not really a problem you can just lock slot 8 and 7
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No baser wants a stupid-ass triangle map. We, the basers, want things to be rebalanced and a new map chosen by us to allow for more Bots strategies as well as new strategies (and thus, fun).

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

Corr

January 03, 2014, 08:44:31 PM #58 Last Edit: January 03, 2014, 08:56:25 PM by Corr
These shouldn't be suggestions but fixes right now in next update too balance base mode:

-Make HP/TD/TA of all bases in all maps equivalent to the blue base in Industrobe.
- Add Reaper flags, raid armor, tier 3 armor, +4 shield/shoulders/e.fs and armor above lv172 armor. (Elektra and below specifically) to the no op tag list.
-Add sector map lv149 as a base map

Stuff later on:
-Add walls and holes and expand other base maps for more variety.
-Put a small reward system in and be able to use the rewards exclusively for sector/pvp (maybe a something that'll increase chances of winning upcoming sector battles or pvp)

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Pokeh

Quote from: nanak tatum on January 03, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: Pokeh on January 03, 2014, 08:49:41 PM
NO DONT FIX BASE

I JUST DELETED BC

Wow what ever will you do?! It is not like you can redownload it! omg!
not for the umpteenth time, no

123bomb123

Quote from: Pokeh on January 04, 2014, 12:08:46 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 03, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: Pokeh on January 03, 2014, 08:49:41 PM
NO DONT FIX BASE

I JUST DELETED BC

Wow what ever will you do?! It is not like you can redownload it! omg!
not for the umpteenth time, no
base is getting more active tbh

yesterday there were two 3v3 rooms that lasted. AND NO KOREA PASSWORDS
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Quote from: Yz on January 14, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
mrz is like top 40 and would probly be like
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Iridion

Quote from: 123bomb123 on January 04, 2014, 12:15:44 AM
Quote from: Pokeh on January 04, 2014, 12:08:46 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 03, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: Pokeh on January 03, 2014, 08:49:41 PM
NO DONT FIX BASE

I JUST DELETED BC

Wow what ever will you do?! It is not like you can redownload it! omg!
not for the umpteenth time, no
base is getting more active tbh

yesterday there were two 3v3 rooms that lasted. AND NO KOREA PASSWORDS

the poor koreans count as players too ;_;


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^thanks cooky <3
Quote from: Cooky on August 03, 2014, 12:05:07 AM
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mygodZzZ

Quote from: 123bomb123 on December 29, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
@whoever said 3 teams in base. how does that work. If you have 3 bases then 1 will always be the one to get screwed over and it would be unfair

ex.
...............^base two^
                          |
base 1--------------------base 3

so base 1 and base 3 are closest to base two so who's most likely going to get teamed on/attacked when 1 or 3 goes on offense? Also, don't mercs just go straight when on offense unless you direct them? seems ****ty for base 2 to me :[

I guess if you put 3 bases in an x map (one part off) kind of shape it wouldn't suk **** as bad tho



That's why i suggested 1: to add 1 more slot so it will be 3v3v3 and,                         
2: Add Lv. 149 to Base mode. this way it has enough space for the 3 bases, wich will look like this Base 1
                                                                                                                                                                                           \  --  Base 3                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           Base 2                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 





Reviax

Or how about we just make 149 a map with TWO bases?

Please. =(

Epic xD

Quote from: Reviax on January 05, 2014, 01:16:50 PM
Or how about we just make 149 a map with TWO bases?

Please. =(
OP tag and base HPs have been readjusted for each map.

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

droid zylon1

how about make the level 149 map and make it have 2 red bases and 2 blue bases! you would have to kill 2 bases before winning and also make it 10 lives so you could have a fun and quite long base game!!!

mygodZzZ

Quote from: droid zylon1 on January 07, 2014, 12:01:58 PM
how about make the level 149 map and make it have 2 red bases and 2 blue bases! you would have to kill 2 bases before winning and also make it 10 lives so you could have a fun and quite long base game!!!
That's actualy not bad!
great idea m8!

Quote from: Reviax on January 05, 2014, 01:16:50 PM
Or how about we just make 149 a map with TWO bases?

Please. =(
yeah, that's what i offered at the 1st place..





mygodZzZ

Suggested something on separate topic, and this is still topic for base suggestions here's the suggestion: Base mode tag





tincan

Don't take it off.
Best suggestion by far.
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Selene

No point in wasting time with hardly any players.

Xkiller712

Quote from: Selene on September 22, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
No point in wasting time with hardly any players.
thats not a good way to go about the game. what about revival.  i know some people that would play more if bvb was fun


ghostkid17

Quote from: Selene on September 22, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
No point in wasting time with hardly any players.
I disagree, with improved content the game could bring back some of the older players and even more new ones.
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Cooky

Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 22, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: Selene on September 22, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
No point in wasting time with hardly any players.
I disagree, with improved content the game could bring back some of the older players and even more new ones.

Thornz

Quote from: Cooky on September 22, 2014, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 22, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: Selene on September 22, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
No point in wasting time with hardly any players.
I disagree, with improved content the game could bring back some of the older players and even more new ones.
Such as myself...

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Meteor

Quote from: Selene on September 22, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
No point in wasting time with hardly any players.
Dat positive attitude.
So you're basically saying that due to the fact that there aren't many active players we shouldn't update the game at all and let it die?

ok

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qolderman

Quote from: Meteor on September 23, 2014, 04:25:09 AM
Quote from: Selene on September 22, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
No point in wasting time with hardly any players.
Dat positive attitude.
So you're basically saying that due to the fact that there aren't many active players we shouldn't update the game at all and let it die?

ok
Quote from: ghostkid17 on September 22, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: Selene on September 22, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
No point in wasting time with hardly any players.
I disagree, with improved content the game could bring back some of the older players and even more new ones.
this 2
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LightRequiem

September 26, 2014, 12:42:39 AM #82 Last Edit: September 26, 2014, 12:47:48 AM by LightRequiem
Quote from: Selene on September 22, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
No point in wasting time with hardly any players.
Actually, this is true. Base would never get an update, especially when you consider how slowly sector updates are being made. Obviously base needs an update, but it's never going to get one. Base is not a profitable mode, largely because of how BC was designed. If BC had gone a different direction, base could've been profitable. However, ultimately, it's not really the admins' fault for lack of updates to base mode; it's the community's collectively. The community wanted (and maybe still wants... idk because I don't regularly check anymore) updates that just kept on making their stats better, and the admins ultimately just gave the players what they wanted. So, if you "really want to fix/update base," you're going to have to take a completely different mentality towards the game, which is realistically not going to happen.

So, regardless of what you guys claim you want, base is not going to get an update, and it will probably remain dead for the rest of BC's lifespan.

These are just my 2 cents from just being around this community forever, but I honestly think that what I said holds a lot of truth. That being said, I don't consider myself part of this community anymore.

okay bai cyas

triblion

Quote from: Reviax on December 25, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Epic xD on December 25, 2013, 04:04:35 PMI updated my list.
Silver just reminded me that the new Reaper flag should be on the OP list as well.

Correct me if i am wrong but last time I was playing and that wasnt that long ago all of these items that have been named here are already banned on the OP list are they not? And in base I think that you should make it more fair for all bot types because Surge (Good at pvp) Ram (No speciality) Patch (Base and Sector tanks)


(Yes I know that rams are used in sector but they are not as useful as patches are as they deal a hell of a lot more damage and they have special damage 0 so untransed they will not damage them)


Sorry for the english grammar and spelling its early here.


-SS Trib

Bubbabear

Quote from: triblion on December 28, 2014, 09:10:46 AM
Quote from: Reviax on December 25, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: Epic xD on December 25, 2013, 04:04:35 PMI updated my list.
Silver just reminded me that the new Reaper flag should be on the OP list as well.

Correct me if i am wrong but last time I was playing and that wasnt that long ago all of these items that have been named here are already banned on the OP list are they not? And in base I think that you should make it more fair for all bot types because Surge (Good at pvp) Ram (No speciality) Patch (Base and Sector tanks)


(Yes I know that rams are used in sector but they are not as useful as patches are as they deal a hell of a lot more damage and they have special damage 0 so untransed they will not damage them)


Sorry for the english grammar and spelling its early here.


-SS Trib

Your quoting posts from 2013, considering it's now end of 2014. But yeah it's only unblanced because of the new sets and items. It was more balanced before, just needs nerfing and a re-balance but they got loads of things to sort out first.
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Xkiller712

What about a base mode where it's *set up*.  There's one set to use for surge, one set for ram, and one set for patch that way it's automatic no op and people cant complain.


LightRequiem

January 07, 2015, 01:53:34 AM #86 Last Edit: January 07, 2015, 01:57:38 AM by LightRequiem
Quote from: triblion on December 28, 2014, 09:10:46 AM
Correct me if i am wrong but last time I was playing and that wasnt that long ago all of these items that have been named here are already banned on the OP list are they not? And in base I think that you should make it more fair for all bot types because Surge (Good at pvp) Ram (No speciality) Patch (Base and Sector tanks)


(Yes I know that rams are used in sector but they are not as useful as patches are as they deal a hell of a lot more damage and they have special damage 0 so untransed they will not damage them)


Sorry for the english grammar and spelling its early here.


-SS Trib
Your stereotypes of the bots is wrong. In this game, with the rules agreed upon by experienced basers, surges are the best overall. This is largely due to surges being able to stack too much TG at this point. We got most of the really unfair stuff banned (+4 Omni/Discus, DH, II skills, raid armor, etc.). At this point, the only things that need to be changed to balance bots types is to change the stats E.F.s and minibots give. Neither E.F.s nor minibots should give TG. They should give HP, Crit, or SP. As such, +4 E.F.s and minibots should give only HP, Crit, and SP. Removing TG from these would reduce surges' TG and give rams their niche back. Regardless, +4 E.F.s and minibots should be added to the no OP items tag to increase build diversity. Having access to all 3 of HP, crit, and SP kills diversity in builds and removes personal preference in customizing your bot...

To put things in perspective, surges can get roughly between 1800-1900 TG, which is insane. Surges should have roughly 1400-1500 at most. Having an extended TG like this gives surges too much power with killing mercs. They are already great at killing things out of trans, so they shouldn't have a really long trans that gives them even better merc killing abilities, too.

Edit:
Actually, SP needs to be modified to make rams more viable. The two T-Bot special transformations really screw rams over. SP can potentially be a huge boon for rams if it were reverted to its older format of just having Kowbat, Bugbear, Blaster, Mandragora, and Melissa.

MasterMerc

#stopmegatron2k15

LightRequiem

Quote from: MasterMerc on January 07, 2015, 01:59:18 AM
nice rolls
If you didn't know, this is a joke among basers for ram special trans. Basically, you hope that you get a good special trans (a "good roll").

Generally, "nice rolls" is used sarcastically because you rarely get the special trans you want. :<

Corr

Never have I heard anyone say "nice roll" in BvB. lmao.

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Xkiller712

Quote from: Cooky on January 08, 2015, 04:58:47 PM
Quote from: Corr on January 08, 2015, 04:34:35 PM
Never have I heard anyone say "nice roll" in BvB. lmao.
yeah, me neither
^

I would've thought it was a fat joke


KillerPig

let me correct lyfe

its a term we started using recently because we only recently started to base again


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