[Killer454]

I'm being serious here, haven't played seriously since 2014
What the hell happened to everyone ? There used to be tons of people online 2 years ago and now only 10-20 in the weekened ? I havern't seen any negative changes which may have caused people to stop playing.
Is it due to the lack of new players ?

[daluzman123]

It's dead because no one cares about it.

[Bluepatchx]

It's dying because Santa and Allie aren't around enough and they no longer pay for larger updates (e.g.  Met was paid for the Raid sets.)  I've got at least 3 new sets and various items ready to go.
Without them,  it is virtually impossible to update the game.

[Meteor]

It's dying because Santa and Allie aren't around enough and they no longer pay for larger updates (e.g.  Met was paid for the Raid sets.)  I've got at least 3 new sets and various items ready to go.
Without them,  it is virtually impossible to update the game.

I was paid for virtually everything else but not that lol.

[hawk5005]

It's a repetitive game with no updates, the only reason people still played was because of nostalgia, but even that died out after a while.

Whenever there's a "big update" people still come back to try it out, but leave shorty after.
People nowadays go for big games with shiny graphics, so getting brand new players is next to impossible and old players have kind of grown out of this game. No matter how you look at it, a revival is pretty much impossible. The game's just gonna wither and die slowly. Sounds familiar.

[Bluepatchx]

^ What he said

And I mean, this game can technically be made into an open world (not in this engine ofc, but it's entirely possible). However, I'm certainly not going to spend time doing that for free.

[Eat4two]

I think your hint was clear in your first post. $$

Not enough commitment to keep this game alive and even if it had been handled better, it's unlikely to have attracted many new players. Those that have no connection can't enjoy for the nostalgia and why would they choose to play it with the competition of other games. With updates it would have probably been more longlived with the old players sticking around longer, but everyone gets bored and quit eventually. It's an old game.

[Yz]

you can just summarize it with what eat4two said in the end. it's an old game. new players weren't gonna find it and the rest of us ran outta drive.

[Bluepatchx]

I think your hint was clear in your first post. $$

I was actually hinting at the fact they've tried to ask me to do it for free before. It's terrible mismanagement.

And as far as competition against other games go; of course. But the premise of this game (Stage-based beat-em up) actually has a place in the market right now as older styled, retro-feel games are coming back into fashion. They just need to inject some time and a decent team into re-utilizing the assets.

[daluzman123]

If only someone had a large sum of money that can be freely invested into reviving Boutcheetah.

If only someone.

[Yz]

I think your hint was clear in your first post. $$

I was actually hinting at the fact they've tried to ask me to do it for free before. It's terrible mismanagement.

And as far as competition against other games go; of course. But the premise of this game (Stage-based beat-em up) actually has a place in the market right now as older styled, retro-feel games are coming back into fashion. They just need to inject some time and a decent team into re-utilizing the assets.

game was dead before then. advertisements always been the issue because new players can't find the game, what's content matter when everyone already quit?

If only someone had a large sum of money that can be freely invested into reviving Boutcheetah.

If only someone.

never really been the issue

[daluzman123]

I think your hint was clear in your first post. $$

I was actually hinting at the fact they've tried to ask me to do it for free before. It's terrible mismanagement.

And as far as competition against other games go; of course. But the premise of this game (Stage-based beat-em up) actually has a place in the market right now as older styled, retro-feel games are coming back into fashion. They just need to inject some time and a decent team into re-utilizing the assets.

game was dead before then. advertisements always been the issue because new players can't find the game, what's content matter when everyone already quit?

If only someone had a large sum of money that can be freely invested into reviving Boutcheetah.

If only someone.

never really been the issue

Having someone with the money to invest will surely encourage other people to revive what was once dead.

I was looking towards re-creating a bots; as I've already contacted a few programmers and server hosters and a single investor, but the files are missing a client so I'm awaiting information regarding the next step.

There's a lot of people whom would love to play bots acclaim, but don't know there's boutcheetah, nor bots.zylon

[Bluepatchx]

You wouldn't be allowed to brand it as "Bots Acclaim"  even if you got your team together. It's a copyrighted name and logo. Granted it went under and was bought out by another company, you still wouldn't be allowed to brand it as that.

Also, it requires a bit more than just programmers and a server host. You need a modeler/animator, gfx artist, etc. It's much more complex than most people imagine. If you don't have someone who knows what they're doing, you end up with a very messed up game with broken functionality (take a look at the Dark Meto Gun as an example)

And as I said in my previous post; you need to make this game into something more than what it currently is. You need to look into other engines, dev software, etc. (which costs a lot.)  As it stands, the nostalgia of this game won't give you the income required to run it permanently. Also, an investor is only good for starting it up - no investor will place money into something that doesn't give back.

In other words, if you want something that will survive on it's own and become self sufficient, you will be making a game from scratch. And even with dedicated supporters, it will take a good year or two. Otherwise you're throwing money down a bottomless hole and it becomes a lengthy and very painful venture.

[daluzman123]

You wouldn't be allowed to brand it as "Bots Acclaim"  even if you got your team together. It's a copyrighted name and logo. Granted it went under and was bought out by another company, you still wouldn't be allowed to brand it as that.

Also, it requires a bit more than just programmers and a server host. You need a modeler/animator, gfx artist, etc. It's much more complex than most people imagine. If you don't have someone who knows what they're doing, you end up with a very messed up game with broken functionality (take a look at the Dark Meto Gun as an example)

And as I said in my previous post; you need to make this game into something more than what it currently is. You need to look into other engines, dev software, etc. (which costs a lot.)  As it stands, the nostalgia of this game won't give you the income required to run it permanently. Also, an investor is only good for starting it up - no investor will place money into something that doesn't give back.

In other words, if you want something that will survive on it's own and become self sufficient, you will be making a game from scratch. And even with dedicated supporters, it will take a good year or two. Otherwise you're throwing money down a bottomless hole and it becomes a lengthy and very painful venture.

I've managed a lot of projects which have created a lot of bridges of connections, so none of this will be of concern, nor issue.

Also, I know that bots acclaim is copyrighted, It was just that people know "Bots" as "Bots Acclaim".

If I have a lot more free time after closing out of a few business deals, I'll invest quite a bit into creating a proper game that won't die after a couple of year(s).

Depending on how you market and "sell" a game to people, it may last a life time, but I digress.

The main topic is that the game Allie invested her time in, is dying.


Edit: What I just noticed is that when someone creates a "Is this game dead" thread, the whole forums gets a lot more active, and then it dies once again.

[Bluepatchx]

Cool. I'm just saying it's a lot more complex than what most people think. Was really just throwing my two cents in because I've been in this industry for a little over 8 years.

And it's pretty awesome, you've worked on so many projects at 20 kudos to you. Must be impressive what you've got on your resumé lol.

[Caspian]

Also the team behind the game must be able to work together at the highest levels or it will break down eventually.

[daluzman123]

Cool. I'm just saying it's a lot more complex than what most people think. Was really just throwing my two cents in because I've been in this industry for a little over 8 years.

And it's pretty awesome, you've worked on so many projects at 20 kudos to you. Must be impressive what you've got on your resumé lol.

It's ironic that you state that.

I've taken off any projects in which I contributed to in any kind off all my resumes as it didn't seem to make a difference in impact when it came down to if I had my diploma from highschool.

Corporations are really stingy regarding education so I've just continued to stay freelance as a lot of people don't ask for a resume.



I'm sure if the "team" behind the game came back from being MIA there may be a movement towards repopulating the game.

[Bluepatchx]

Still, free-lancing so much that you're confident in your connections at 20 should mean you're guaranteed a job in no time. So I'd put them back on the resumé, it'll show your diversity in skill.

A little secret about this industry: Skill/expertise > a high school / uni degree.

Not to say that a degree isn't worth anything, but what you learn in theory in a classroom for 4 years can be learned in 6 years of hard work. Plus experience out weighs any paper theory you have. I only did my degree because it's nice to say you've got a "Masters of Science in Game and Play Theory"  lol.

[daluzman123]

Still, free-lancing so much that you're confident in your connections at 20 should mean you're guaranteed a job in no time. So I'd put them back on the resumé, it'll show your diversity in skill.

A little secret about this industry: Skill/expertise > a high school / uni degree.

Not to say that a degree isn't worth anything, but what you learn in theory in a classroom for 4 years can be learned in 6 years of hard work. Plus experience out weighs any paper theory you have. I only did my degree because it's nice to say you've got a "Masters of Science in Game and Play Theory"  lol.

Ha.

I was looking for a best-buy job, and they said I'd be an asset to the company and I aced all the interviews, however I got outweighed by someone with a frigging G.E.D!

Oh well, let's hope BC becomes alive again.

[Bluepatchx]

Though a Best Buy recruitment req. would be vastly different to any requirement in the gaming industry. They're looking for different skill sets entirely. But yeah, sucks lol

[Pokeh]

People nowadays go for big games with shiny graphics

Yeah like Minecraft

[Meteor]

People nowadays go for big games with shiny graphics

Yeah like Minecraft

Big game.

[unseengamer]

You wouldn't be allowed to brand it as "Bots Acclaim"  even if you got your team together. It's a copyrighted name and logo. Granted it went under and was bought out by another company, you still wouldn't be allowed to brand it as that.

Also, it requires a bit more than just programmers and a server host. You need a modeler/animator, gfx artist, etc. It's much more complex than most people imagine. If you don't have someone who knows what they're doing, you end up with a very messed up game with broken functionality (take a look at the Dark Meto Gun as an example)

And as I said in my previous post; you need to make this game into something more than what it currently is. You need to look into other engines, dev software, etc. (which costs a lot.)  As it stands, the nostalgia of this game won't give you the income required to run it permanently. Also, an investor is only good for starting it up - no investor will place money into something that doesn't give back.

In other words, if you want something that will survive on it's own and become self sufficient, you will be making a game from scratch. And even with dedicated supporters, it will take a good year or two. Otherwise you're throwing money down a bottomless hole and it becomes a lengthy and very painful venture.

Sooooo should we use the unreal engine 4 and rebuild this game from ground up? :p  do things how they need to be with coding people wrote from start not editing lines of code like now    make the game look way better with the UR4 engine, Yes it will take some time. but with the right team, and Motiviation, I can almost be positive that the game would take back off again.

[Bluepatchx]

Sooooo should we use the unreal engine 4 and rebuild this game from ground up? :p  do things how they need to be with coding people wrote from start not editing lines of code like now   make the game look way better with the UR4 engine, Yes it will take some time. but with the right team, and Motiviation, I can almost be positive that the game would take back off again.

Full explanation:

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It's a little more complicated than just copy / pasting a code into the engine. You need a group of people who are actually acquainted with the engine and know how to replicate the older game. You also need people who are strong in their respective talents. More importantly you need people who like working together lol.
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TL;DR
Lots of effort. Many nights of no sleep. Need people who like working with each other

[Optimism]

You wouldn't be allowed to brand it as "Bots Acclaim"  even if you got your team together. It's a copyrighted name and logo. Granted it went under and was bought out by another company, you still wouldn't be allowed to brand it as that.

Also, it requires a bit more than just programmers and a server host. You need a modeler/animator, gfx artist, etc. It's much more complex than most people imagine. If you don't have someone who knows what they're doing, you end up with a very messed up game with broken functionality (take a look at the Dark Meto Gun as an example)

And as I said in my previous post; you need to make this game into something more than what it currently is. You need to look into other engines, dev software, etc. (which costs a lot.)  As it stands, the nostalgia of this game won't give you the income required to run it permanently. Also, an investor is only good for starting it up - no investor will place money into something that doesn't give back.

In other words, if you want something that will survive on it's own and become self sufficient, you will be making a game from scratch. And even with dedicated supporters, it will take a good year or two. Otherwise you're throwing money down a bottomless hole and it becomes a lengthy and very painful venture.

I've managed a lot of projects which have created a lot of bridges of connections, so none of this will be of concern, nor issue.

Also, I know that bots acclaim is copyrighted, It was just that people know "Bots" as "Bots Acclaim".

If I have a lot more free time after closing out of a few business deals, I'll invest quite a bit into creating a proper game that won't die after a couple of year(s).

Depending on how you market and "sell" a game to people, it may last a life time, but I digress.

The main topic is that the game Allie invested her time in, is dying.


Edit: What I just noticed is that when someone creates a "Is this game dead" thread, the whole forums gets a lot more active, and then it dies once again.

I remember a few years back we hunted down the CFO of the company that bought the original copyright from Acclaim (Orange Games) and attempted to purchase that copyright after we saw their initiatives with the game were heading very southward. He didn't respond to our offer on Facebook >.>.

[Yz]

very possible he thought it was a scam ^ fb pages get offers all the time. such a sad way for that saga to end though

[Zeromartu]

Hey everyone!
Today I came back after a few years to see if something has changed. I noticed that the game was almost dead. I remember the good times with full servers, etc. and I just want to say that maybe STEAM is a good solution. There are lots of people looking for something F2P and I think that with all the recommendation system it has and all the people that surf the store, there is still a chance to get this game alive again. I read that Daluzman123 said something about remaking the game. It would be a big opportunity to put it in the market with other F2P games! Now BC is a bit hidden: If you don't really know that the game existed as BOTS!! or someone has told you about it, you will hardly find it.
I'm not into developing and stuff so this is just a noob suggestion. I'd really like to see a remake of this game on steam's frontpage as a recommendation, new players will come and surely old players would like to taste it again.
Note: sorry if my english is not accurate .
Have a good day!

[Bluepatchx]

Hey everyone!
Today I came back after a few years to see if something has changed. I noticed that the game was almost dead. I remember the good times with full servers, etc. and I just want to say that maybe STEAM is a good solution. There are lots of people looking for something F2P and I think that with all the recommendation system it has and all the people that surf the store, there is still a chance to get this game alive again. I read that Daluzman123 said something about remaking the game. It would be a big opportunity to put it in the market with other F2P games! Now BC is a bit hidden: If you don't really know that the game existed as BOTS!! or someone has told you about it, you will hardly find it.
I'm not into developing and stuff so this is just a noob suggestion. I'd really like to see a remake of this game on steam's frontpage as a recommendation, new players will come and surely old players would like to taste it again.
Note: sorry if my english is not accurate .
Have a good day!

Can't for legal reasons.

[hawk5005]

It wouldn't be the first private server to hit steam.

[drake222]

Did Bc fully die because I can't even log in it just shows me logging in forever and doesn't load

[anton5577]

Did Bc fully die because I can't even log in it just shows me logging in forever and doesn't load

No it hasn't.
You can check the home page to see which players are on.