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what's the best way to kill zeon?

Started by JustRK, November 12, 2013, 03:04:11 PM

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sirhamtaro

so
you need a certain level
to kill an OP mob
and get nothing


I dont see how that is fun.
esp if you use gc

JustRK

Quote from: Allie on November 12, 2013, 09:56:45 PM
I would suggest hitting that soon.
That map is planning to be removed soon.

would you be able to tell us why? or does the reason lie within the fact that this particular raid map is rarely done / completed.

Quote from: sirhamtaro on November 12, 2013, 11:56:46 PM
so
you need a certain level
to kill an OP mob
and get nothing


I dont see how that is fun.
esp if you use gc

well for me, I just wanted to know that I completed it and could do it again anytime that I wanted to. Isn't that the concept of any game regardless of a reward? Not mastery, just having the sole ability to do what one would like to.  :P

Reviax

Yes, Guard Crushing for a whole minute and a half without stopping is loads of fun.

Really though, why was this map even made?

sirhamtaro

sure rk but, personally, it just means nothing

JustRK

that's okay because perspective is dynamic  :)

to me it would be like saying, climbing a mountain is stupid...all you do is walk for hours and eventually reach the top.

I enjoy raid for the thrill of completion and though anyone can do it, only few will dare to do so and succeed.

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Quote from: JustRK on November 13, 2013, 12:13:42 AM
that's okay because perspective is dynamic  :)

to me it would be like saying, climbing a mountain is stupid...all you do is walk for hours and eventually reach the top.

I enjoy raid for the thrill of completion and though anyone can do it, only few will dare to do so and succeed.
I have't tried Zeon but it does seem like it could get boring very fast.

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Thornz

Too bad they got rid of 1p hackenn tho. That sounded fun :/

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JustRK

Quote from: Thornz on November 13, 2013, 04:41:24 AM
Too bad they got rid of 1p hackenn tho. That sounded fun :/

Old 1p and 8p were definitely cool. Noob hackers were easily caught by the completion being announced globally and I could imagine being a very small reason why there was a strict level cap implemented (apart from the raid armors being introduced). It was definitely done way more than this new 1p Zeon raid, like why make a map exclusive to 225+ if you're not going to give anything to begin with.

Anyway rambling, I'm sure many miss the old raid for the insane exp and spamming of ______ has completed hackenn ruins!

Allie

Quote from: JustRK on November 13, 2013, 12:05:11 AM
would you be able to tell us why? or does the reason lie within the fact that this particular raid map is rarely done / completed.

It was a test of my new ai system.
I got what I needed from it. I needed to know if it was too hard, too easy, what its weaknesses were, etc.
Toxic Kowbat was the result of the Zeon test. Its difficulty was scaled to a tougher level that (sorta) required multiple players.
(it was also the first mob that I designed the ai from scratch, so give me a break if it derped sometimes).

Thornz

Quote from: Allie on November 13, 2013, 07:42:22 AM
Quote from: JustRK on November 13, 2013, 12:05:11 AM
would you be able to tell us why? or does the reason lie within the fact that this particular raid map is rarely done / completed.

It was a test of my new ai system.
I got what I needed from it. I needed to know if it was too hard, too easy, what its weaknesses were, etc.
Toxic Kowbat was the result of the Zeon test. Its difficulty was scaled to a tougher level that (sorta) required multiple players.
(it was also the first mob that I designed the ai from scratch, so give me a break if it derped sometimes).
Oic. That's actually neat :)

Plan on releasing a different 1p raid?

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Allie

Quote from: Thornz on November 13, 2013, 08:15:37 AM
Plan on releasing a different 1p raid?

Probably not.
I'd love to, but 1p raids are a big appeal to hackers. If I did, I would have to not make them very reward-heavy, and if I did that, what's the point.

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Reviax

Quote from: nanak tatum on November 13, 2013, 03:36:51 PM
Quote from: Allie on November 13, 2013, 08:29:55 AM
Quote from: Thornz on November 13, 2013, 08:15:37 AM
Plan on releasing a different 1p raid?

Probably not.
I'd love to, but 1p raids are a big appeal to hackers. If I did, I would have to not make them very reward-heavy, and if I did that, what's the point.

Make the 1p raids for level 221/225's or w/e. Most hackers are nubs that are level 126 or so. Also, didn't the old 1p and 8p raids work fine? Like whenever someone completes a raid, their name pops up.
The problem with the names popping up is it's annoying. On sundays when there were like 3-4 rooms grinding 8p at the same time my chat was going crazy. =/

JustRK

Quote from: nanak tatum on November 13, 2013, 03:36:51 PM
Quote from: Allie on November 13, 2013, 08:29:55 AM
Quote from: Thornz on November 13, 2013, 08:15:37 AM
Plan on releasing a different 1p raid?

Probably not.
I'd love to, but 1p raids are a big appeal to hackers. If I did, I would have to not make them very reward-heavy, and if I did that, what's the point.

Make the 1p raids for level 221/225's or w/e. Most hackers are nubs that are level 126 or so. Also, didn't the old 1p and 8p raids work fine? Like whenever someone completes a raid, their name pops up.

I agree with this. Most hackers get caught up before they reach level 225 which would alleviate a great percentage of your problems without having to sacrifice rewards. What (rather dumb) hacker would accumulate that much exp over the course of hours of gameplay just to get banned (few I'm aware).

In response to that global chat completion thing, if there was a possibility of limiting it or being able to turn it off just for that specific notification (staff would probably not want to, but regulars would), that would be cool.

Allie

Maybe we can make four-man raids.
But idk about 1p.

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