They aren't complaints they're reports, meant to be debated over, worst decision from opti, in awhile.
I actually like his decision, as staff members need to be held accountable for their actions both in-game and here on the forums. Complaints and reports are basically in the same category as a Report is reporting to a higher authority a problem you experienced with a staff member, same goes if mentioning a complaint.
Nah, a report is a summing up information into an understandable format, a complaint is whining to your kindergarten teacher about the bully in the schoolyard.
apparently people can't debate
Given that members can't make a finalized decision on the matter, a debate in the public forum won't happen. However, those that make the decision to reprimand staff (other staff) can and will debate the matter privately in the staff section.
Quote from: Optimism on June 23, 2011, 11:58:22 AM
Given that members can't make a finalized decision on the matter, a debate in the public forum won't happen. However, those that make the decision to reprimand staff (other staff) can and will debate the matter privately in the staff section.
The point isn't that they can make a finalized decision, the point is their ability to voice their opinion on a subject pertaining to anyone and everyone affected by the staff (everyone) is being taken away cause you don't like to deal with arguments.
As stated within the section, make your complaints known in full detail within the first post. Subsequent discussion is irrelevant and serves no purpose other than stirring the pot. This won't be happening, sorry.
tbh i would like to be able to debate stuff about staff, or if i made a complaint i would like to know what staff thinks - and what the whole forum thinks
Quote from: Iridion on June 23, 2011, 02:13:54 PM
tbh i would like to be able to debate stuff about staff, or if i made a complaint i would like to know what staff thinks - and what the whole forum thinks
I see nothing wrong with this idea. After all, the staff are meant to make the forum more enjoyable for the players, so why not let them at least voice their opinions/views?
No. This community is far too immature for such a thing. Welcome back to reality.
Quote from: Optimism on June 23, 2011, 02:40:42 PM
No. This community is far too immature for such a thing. Welcome back to reality.
-bows to opti- your complete and total knowledge of the maturity of the members on this forum after being a GM (once again) for like less then a week, is amazing.
Quote from: zepher2211 on June 23, 2011, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: Optimism on June 23, 2011, 02:40:42 PM
No. This community is far too immature for such a thing. Welcome back to reality.
-bows to opti- your complete and total knowledge of the maturity of the members on this forum after being a GM (once again) for like less then a week, is amazing.
*looks at Muncay's sig*
Enough said.
Quote from: Optimism on June 23, 2011, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: zepher2211 on June 23, 2011, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: Optimism on June 23, 2011, 02:40:42 PM
No. This community is far too immature for such a thing. Welcome back to reality.
-bows to opti- your complete and total knowledge of the maturity of the members on this forum after being a GM (once again) for like less then a week, is amazing.
*looks at Muncay's sig*
Enough said.
6 page convo where he insults my life, friends, and me in general, yeh ima put part of it in my sig.
Then stop fighting the system? If you can't conform to the rules, then don't expect me to make exceptions for you.
Quote from: Optimism on June 23, 2011, 02:40:42 PM
No. This community is far too immature for such a thing. Welcome back to reality.
yo start moderating if needed
Quote from: Optimism on June 23, 2011, 02:59:24 PM
Then stop fighting the system? If you can't conform to the rules, then don't expect me to make exceptions for you.
I never asked you to make an exception for me? I asked you to allow the community to voice there opinion.
The staff members should be the ones making the decision in this case. I personally feel it's not that the community is immature as much as it's just not being as knowledgeable on the given subject which almost always leads to a biased opinion which in turn would result in wrong measures being taken. I mean, look at some of the staff applications.
Quote from: Kevin on June 23, 2011, 04:30:05 PM
The staff members should be the ones making the decision in this case. I personally feel it's not that the community is immature as much as it's just not being as knowledgeable on the given subject which almost always leads to a biased opinion which in turn would result in wrong measures being taken. I mean, look at some of the staff applications.
Whether or not biased opinion is given by the members the staff should have the ability to make a clean decision, without subjectivity. The community still needs the ability to have themselves heard, where as if you lock a thread I want to post that on, I make a new thread, I don't think that should be necessary, rather the decision opti made only tenses the community up more as they feel they have no voice, thus that sticky serves to do nothing but cause more trouble then it stops.
We should to~~~tally get a community manager that has more forum powers than a GM >:3
Quote from: Tricky on June 23, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
more powers plz
::)
not a bad idea at all if someone here would be capable of that
Quote from: Iridion on June 23, 2011, 04:45:26 PM
Quote from: Tricky on June 23, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
more powers plz
::)
not a bad idea at all if someone here would be capable of that
I meant like TheHistorian lawl.
I'LL DO ET.
Community Manager uses Power Abuse!
It's super effective!
BoutCheetah Member uses special ability, Rage! BoutCheetah Member has 50% increased attack!
BoutCheetah Member uses Explosion!
BoutCheetah has fainted. Game over. No more BC. Get over it.
gud idea, no?
Quote from: iwasbobo on June 23, 2011, 04:59:31 PM
I'LL DO ET.
Community Manager uses Power Abuse!
It's super effective!
BoutCheetah Member uses special ability, Rage! BoutCheetah Member has 50% increased attack!
BoutCheetah Member uses Explosion!
BoutCheetah has fainted. Game over. No more BC. Get over it.
gud idea, no?
cm uses ban jrh
Quote from: Tricky on June 23, 2011, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: iwasbobo on June 23, 2011, 04:59:31 PM
I'LL DO ET.
Community Manager uses Power Abuse!
It's super effective!
BoutCheetah Member uses special ability, Rage! BoutCheetah Member has 50% increased attack!
BoutCheetah Member uses Explosion!
BoutCheetah has fainted. Game over. No more BC. Get over it.
gud idea, no?
cm uses ban jrh
Precisely this.