BoutCheetah

Hey everyone! There's been lots of talk about a GP Reset, which means all guilds will have their GP reset to 0 -- but their current GP will be archived in a Hall of Fame.

This will spark new guilds, new rivalries, and some hot competition as there will be way more guilds in the run for rank 1.

So here are the options. Please note it is not guaranteed the winning option will actually be chosen, we just want to know what the players think. Vote only once, please.

Clarifying more of what the first post said, this is not a guaranteed content poll. The winner may or may not strongly influence our decision but it will not decide for itself.

Resetting the GP would result in people who belonged at the guild they were in before the reset to go to other guild, this will start Wars, Flames, Arguements, People quitting the guild.
There is loads of people who are agreeing to this, Why? I dont know.
I Think the guild shouls just be left alone, We all know that Silence is NOT Legit.
They're people who have basically no lifed this game for weeks, months, some even years to get to where they are, and your just going to wipe all of there hard work, These people will go mental.
I guarantee you people will leave, and resetting may even spark people attempting to hack the game, DDOS the game, DDOS the website, or do anything possible they can to ruin the game.

This is just what i think of the GP reset and i am strongly against it.

Thanks, -Turb0

Quote from: Jason321 on July 03, 2012, 06:39:30 PM
Resetting the GP would result in people who belonged at the guild they were in before the reset to go to other guild, this will start Wars, Flames, Arguements, People quitting the guild.
There is loads of people who are agreeing to this, Why? I dont know.
I Think the guild shouls just be left alone, We all know that Silence is NOT Legit.
They're people who have basically no lifed this game for weeks, months, some even years to get to where they are, and your just going to wipe all of there hard work, These people will go mental.
I guarantee you people will leave, and resetting may even spark people attempting to hack the game, DDOS the game, DDOS the website, or do anything possible they can to ruin the game.

This is just what i think of the GP reset and i am strongly against it.

Thanks, -Turb0

Muncay and Ice are all for the GP reset idea.

I think its good to reset the gp how Yz said :

Quote from: Yz on July 03, 2012, 06:23:57 PM
This will spark new guilds, new rivalries, and some hot competition as there will be way more guilds in the run for rank 1.

You are not thinking of the risks your taking, Try thinking how it may even kill the game.
Yes MASTER OG ICE and Muncay are All for this, because they know they're not legit. Or MASTER OG ICE feels kind of sorry for it or wanted to try and prove "Silence" Are the best guild in the game, The people who are against this just might blame MASTER OG ICE or Muncay for the GP Reset and will go cause Flames with them.
We all know MASTER OG ICE can't really control what he says, Being banned has proven that, Calling people "Kiddies" and "*****s"
For the most pathetic reasons.
Then this abuse may be screenshotted and then reported, and then MASTER OG ICE will respond to this, maybe in the right way.
I just dont think your thinking hard about what risks your taking and how you could mess up certain stuff in game or the players in game.

Thanks for reading, -Turb0

Noted, but please do not make posts that are likely to start drama in this thread.

Quote from: UnderYou on July 03, 2012, 06:43:15 PM
I think its good to reset the gp how Yz said :

Quote from: Yz on July 03, 2012, 06:23:57 PM
This will spark new guilds, new rivalries, and some hot competition as there will be way more guilds in the run for rank 1.

It really will. There are not many guilds right now that are above 10 million GP and most up there are inactive. The one's that aren't are all for the reset because of the current state of guilds. There are tons that are inactive or not even high enough in GP to be able to debate a guild reset. It would also be nice to reduce the current size of guilds to "Spark new guilds" and create "some hot competition" to go along with it. You will have to decide who you truly want in you guild and who you can truly trust. Don't forget we will still have the hall of fame though to remember all of the old guilds that were wiped and to hold the places they earned.

Ahh i give up, you people dont obviously see the risk in it.

Of course their is risk too it, their is always a drawback or consequence to something, but what you gotta see is that the benefits outweigh the risks. So it's okay.

Quote from: Corr on July 03, 2012, 07:00:59 PM
Of course their is risk too it, their is always a drawback or consequence to something, but what you gotta see is that the benefits outweigh the risks. So it's okay.

If this does happen will we be seeing you in-game, Corr? :)

Quote from: Jason321 on July 03, 2012, 06:51:07 PM
You are not thinking of the risks your taking, Try thinking how it may even kill the game.
Yes MASTER OG ICE and Muncay are All for this, because they know they're not legit. Or MASTER OG ICE feels kind of sorry for it or wanted to try and prove "Silence" Are the best guild in the game, The people who are against this just might blame MASTER OG ICE or Muncay for the GP Reset and will go cause Flames with them.
We all know MASTER OG ICE can't really control what he says, Being banned has proven that, Calling people "Kiddies" and "*****s"
For the most pathetic reasons.
Then this abuse may be screenshotted and then reported, and then MASTER OG ICE will respond to this, maybe in the right way.
I just dont think your thinking hard about what risks your taking and how you could mess up certain stuff in game or the players in game.

Thanks for reading, -Turb0

theres nothing bad about *****s

To stay on topic I see o problem resetting GP because it will spark a new reason to be more active and Rank 1 would be up for grabs

For those who vote for "Reset,but keep guild slots at 50"

Do you not get people would just make the same guild,all the actives go into one=no rivalry=no challenge

If it would be 20 members per guild,it  would make many rivalry

Quote from: Scythe on July 03, 2012, 07:41:55 PM
For those who vote for "Reset,but keep guild slots at 50"

Do you not get people would just make the same guild,all the actives go into one=no rivalry=no challenge

If it would be 20 members per guild,it  would make many rivalry

Even 30 people would do this. 30 would still allow a fairly large guild but would help trim it and eliminate guild hopping and make trust and knowing someone be a key factor in getting in.

Well I know my post won't do anything but I have to agree with Jason aka -Turbo

I know already some guilds and persons who have a social war amoung each other,
also I think the reset will make this war bigger and worser than before,

I also know these persons who have these arguments about the best guild in wich they are they brag about things and  start to do thing out of jalousy, like cursing, and flaming.

also what I already saw a lot was guild members from other guilds went to rooms in wich the rival guild was playing to say mean and bad things about that guild and started to promote to join their guild. I got a big example: *************
(I'm not here to say bad amoung others)

well I think if you guys want to keep this "social war" at minimal rates, that leaving the guildpoints will be the best idea.

on the other side I like to option to reset guildpoints but the negative side about this idea says to me to ignore this change.

lolig

We can all agree on 25? That might be perfect if 30 is too much and 20 is too little lets just meet halfway lol.

@ Tricky- I guess, but not that active like I used to be, and if anything I'll just be a co-leader too a regular guild or something. I don't like dealing with people like I used too. xD

good idea! +1 reset guilds. sunshine is unactive with loads of gp

Quote from: Corr on July 03, 2012, 08:01:16 PM
We can all agree on 25? That might be perfect if 30 is too much and 20 is too little lets just meet halfway lol.

@ Tricky- I guess, but not that active like I used to be, and if anything I'll just be a co-leader too a regular guild or something. I don't like dealing with people like I used too. xD

Aw damn x) well I'd still want to play you if you come online o;

Quote from: jar009 on July 03, 2012, 07:55:00 PM
Well I know my post won't do anything but I have to agree with Jason aka -Turbo

I know already some guilds and persons who have a social war amoung each other,
also I think the reset will make this war bigger and worser than before,

I also know these persons who have these arguments about the best guild in wich they are they brag about things and  start to do thing out of jalousy, like cursing, and flaming.

also what I already saw a lot was guild members from other guilds went to rooms in wich the rival guild was playing to say mean and bad things about that guild and started to promote to join their guild. I got a big example: *************
(I'm not here to say bad amoung others)

well I think if you guys want to keep this "social war" at minimal rates, that leaving the guildpoints will be the best idea.

on the other side I like to option to reset guildpoints but the negative side about this idea says to me to ignore this change.

lolig

Nonsense, if this things happen you can always kick them out.. And if "The rival guild" is playing, wouldn't it be a {gmo} meaning that they could not access to it? Speaking of regular rooms if they start harassing big time you can always report...
Which rivalry, btw o.O

@Fuzz: Sunshine isn't that much of the problem anyway.

It's late cba to read it all, ignore my kids post, he has mental issues ;)

Quote from: Corr on July 03, 2012, 07:00:59 PM
Of course their is risk too it, their is always a drawback or consequence to something, but what you gotta see is that the benefits outweigh the risks. So it's okay.

>there is always a drawback or consequence to something.

Post of the year.

at least my idea of an old rankings page was considered O:-)

Quote from: Jason321 on July 03, 2012, 06:39:30 PM
Resetting the GP would result in people who belonged at the guild they were in before the reset to go to other guild, this will start Wars, Flames, Arguements, People quitting the guild.

And why is that? The GP would still be there in the Hallf Of Fame, it's not like it's going to disappear. .-.

Quote from: Jason321 on July 03, 2012, 06:39:30 PMThere is loads of people who are agreeing to this, Why? I dont know.

Because the current guild system has been totally ****ing ruined and we want it to be fixed. That's why.

Quote from: Jason321 on July 03, 2012, 06:39:30 PMI Think the guild shouls just be left alone, We all know that Silence is NOT Legit.
They're people who have basically no lifed this game for weeks, months, some even years to get to where they are, and your just going to wipe all of there hard work, These people will go mental.

Again, that GP isn't going to dispear, it will just be moved to the GP Hall Of Fame.

Quote from: Jason321 on July 03, 2012, 06:59:41 PM
Ahh i give up, you people dont obviously see the risk in it.

I think the problem here is that you don't fully understand what's being proposed. =/

Quote from: Scythe on July 03, 2012, 07:41:55 PM
For those who vote for "Reset,but keep guild slots at 50"

Do you not get people would just make the same guild,all the actives go into one=no rivalry=no challenge

If it would be 20 members per guild,it  would make many rivalry

This. A thousand times this. 50 guild members would only work with a large community, the size of Acclaim BOTS!! (if not bigger). For B.Cheetah, 20 members would be best. But as Corr said, if 20 seems like too much of a change, then 25 should be fine.

The reset and decrease guild size vote is winning,win!

i think we should reset GP to start with, then when we have done that there is balance in GP.

the next to do would be setting a max of 30 members in a guild as our community is not big enough to go higher. rivaly will increase and as people read this topic they will understand the deccision.

when we have a bigger community we can always go back to 50.

There should be a reset because players are getting Illegal GP transfers request, and making up exscuses to boost GP.

There should be NO GP Transfers whatsoever, And all GP Should be cleaned.

Guild Members should be lowered to 20-30 players to make it more a challenge and not just have inactive players taking up space.


-Mod Johnny

reset+20 g. members
more guilds, more competition, more "life" to te game eventually

Yea 20,even 5 more members can show a great difference

Reset and 20-25 players in a guild. Don't need to say a lot as i kinda got this thing going.

Quote from: daluzman123 on July 04, 2012, 05:11:15 AM
There should be a reset because players are getting Illegal GP transfers request, and making up exscuses to boost GP.

There should be NO GP Transfers whatsoever, And all GP Should be cleaned.

Guild Members should be lowered to 20-30 players to make it more a challenge and not just have inactive players taking up space.


-Mod Johnny

although im completely for gp reset, u make a weird point here

illegal gp transfers? like what lol
also why shouldnt there be gp transfers? players in guilds earn gp for their guild. if they quit or something it makes perfect sense to  transfer lawl

Pig, some light reading  http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,26779.0.html (http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,26779.0.html)

No way in hell I'm reading all that lawl

if I missed something tell me  ???

all for it
the number of guild members or debatable though
i think 25 is okay

eh I agree on 25.

Yeah, 25 sounds like a fair amount but im good with either 20 or 25.

Quote from: KillerPig on July 04, 2012, 09:17:13 AM

Quote from: daluzman123 on July 04, 2012, 05:11:15 AM
There should be a reset because players are getting Illegal GP transfers request, and making up exscuses to boost GP.

There should be NO GP Transfers whatsoever, And all GP Should be cleaned.

Guild Members should be lowered to 20-30 players to make it more a challenge and not just have inactive players taking up space.


-Mod Johnny

although im completely for gp reset, u make a weird point here

illegal gp transfers? like what lol
also why shouldnt there be gp transfers? players in guilds earn gp for their guild. if they quit or something it makes perfect sense to  transfer lawl

if they earned gp for THAT guild how does it makes sense to transfer it to ANOTHER guild

Transferring GP is a treason to treason lawl


20 members/guild  ftw

A 20 member limit would probably be more interesting than a 30 member limit, guilds wouldn't be able to hoard all the good players.

Quote from: Iridion on July 04, 2012, 01:34:05 PM

Quote from: KillerPig on July 04, 2012, 09:17:13 AM

Quote from: daluzman123 on July 04, 2012, 05:11:15 AM
There should be a reset because players are getting Illegal GP transfers request, and making up exscuses to boost GP.

There should be NO GP Transfers whatsoever, And all GP Should be cleaned.

Guild Members should be lowered to 20-30 players to make it more a challenge and not just have inactive players taking up space.


-Mod Johnny

although im completely for gp reset, u make a weird point here

illegal gp transfers? like what lol
also why shouldnt there be gp transfers? players in guilds earn gp for their guild. if they quit or something it makes perfect sense to  transfer lawl

if they earned gp for THAT guild how does it makes sense to transfer it to ANOTHER guild

has that actually happened before? o_o

Here's wat i mean:
I make a guild
Iri joins my guild and get me 2 mill gp
iri wants to quit so he gives me all the gp

You leave guild, gp is gone, as it always has been.

im gonna guess this argument was presented and resolved in grampys other thread so im gonna stop now

Not resolved..

oh. I'll continue then  ;D

Im making sense when I say that right? Even it was just 1 gp being transfered that 1 gp is THE GUILDS accomplishment

gp should stay in guild (but not transferred to a certain player like guild master) unless guild master kicks person from guild (like in evo)

but ya definitely no transfer.

ex:
pig makes guild
no1 joins
then i make guild and ross joins.
ross makes 2 mil gp
ross decides to make guild with allie
ross quits
2 mil gp is in the guild, but nobody owns it. it still adds to the total gp.

Quote from: Pokeh on July 04, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
gp should stay in guild (but not transferred to a certain player like guild master) unless guild master kicks person from guild (like in evo)

but ya definitely no transfer.

ex:
pig makes guild
no1 joins
then i make guild and ross joins.
ross makes 2 mil gp
ross decides to make guild with allie
ross quits
2 mil gp is in the guild, but nobody owns it. it still adds to the total gp.

No, ross' gp would be gone.

no we can make it so it stays cuz at one point ross was my bitch and he made 2 mil gp for my guild

Wauw poke has good idea

Quote from: Pokeh on July 04, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
gp should stay in guild (but not transferred to a certain player like guild master) unless guild master kicks person from guild (like in evo)

but ya definitely no transfer.

ex:
pig makes guild
no1 joins
then i make guild and ross joins.
ross makes 2 mil gp
ross decides to make guild with allie
ross quits
2 mil gp is in the guild, but nobody owns it. it still adds to the total gp.

nice idea

building off pokes idea

all the gp earned by a guild goes into 1 collective number that never decreases unless through gp wipe

Quote from: Pokeh on July 04, 2012, 10:17:09 PM
no we can make it so it stays cuz at one point ross was my bitch and he made 2 mil gp for my guild

But then we're left with the same problem. When you lose a guild member, it should be a sacrifice, just like it was in BOTS!! and BOUT. Otherwise people can just join a guild for the sake of grinding GP for their friend, then go off and do the same for other people. That shouldn't be allowed, when someone leaves, their GP should go away as well. That's what the competitive guild ranking system was built upon - not just being able to make the most GP, but being able to keep it as well. It's supposed to be a challenge, something that takes skill and diplomacy.

I don't even see the big deal with GP anyways. Getting GP is a chore, and it equates to worthless points on a dead online game.

If you're in a guild, you should be with people to have fun. If you've been playing this game to collect GP, you've been wasting your time.  >.>

Quote from: GavinGill on July 05, 2012, 12:17:02 AM

Quote from: Pokeh on July 04, 2012, 10:17:09 PM
no we can make it so it stays cuz at one point ross was my bitch and he made 2 mil gp for my guild

But then we're left with the same problem. When you lose a guild member, it should be a sacrifice, just like it was in BOTS!! and BOUT. Otherwise people can just join a guild for the sake of grinding GP for their friend, then go off and do the same for other people. That shouldn't be allowed, when someone leaves, their GP should go away as well. That's what the competitive guild ranking system was built upon - not just being able to make the most GP, but being able to keep it as well. It's supposed to be a challenge, something that takes skill and diplomacy.

Then this is parallel to

Quote from: Epic xD on July 05, 2012, 02:53:21 AM
Honestly, I'm surprised you're only disappointed now. The whole guild system in Bots is just pathetic. Ranking a guild by points is a really stupid concept. All it does is show how much people play the game in the first place. You want guilds to be competitive over points? Imo, a guild should be competitive within itself over a specific game mode (sector, PvP, BvB). At least that way, the players actually do something interesting, have fun, and get better at the game.

/bai

How the gp system works will directly affect how people should earn gp in the first place. Let's try to get that down. Then, depending on how it ends up we can decide how the gp system would work. :/

Quote from: Jason321 on July 03, 2012, 06:39:30 PM
Resetting the GP would result in people who belonged at the guild they were in before the reset to go to other guild, this will start Wars, Flames, Arguements, People quitting the guild.
There is loads of people who are agreeing to this, Why? I dont know.
I Think the guild shouls just be left alone, We all know that Silence is NOT Legit.
They're people who have basically no lifed this game for weeks, months, some even years to get to where they are, and your just going to wipe all of there hard work, These people will go mental.
I guarantee you people will leave, and resetting may even spark people attempting to hack the game, DDOS the game, DDOS the website, or do anything possible they can to ruin the game.

This is just what i think of the GP reset and i am strongly against it.

Thanks, -Turb0

I dont apprieciate your comment on silence if you wanna start something just get out.

Quote from: speedy101 on July 05, 2012, 03:36:26 AM

Quote from: Jason321 on July 03, 2012, 06:39:30 PM
Resetting the GP would result in people who belonged at the guild they were in before the reset to go to other guild, this will start Wars, Flames, Arguements, People quitting the guild.
There is loads of people who are agreeing to this, Why? I dont know.
I Think the guild shouls just be left alone, We all know that Silence is NOT Legit.
They're people who have basically no lifed this game for weeks, months, some even years to get to where they are, and your just going to wipe all of there hard work, These people will go mental.
I guarantee you people will leave, and resetting may even spark people attempting to hack the game, DDOS the game, DDOS the website, or do anything possible they can to ruin the game.

This is just what i think of the GP reset and i am strongly against it.

Thanks, -Turb0

I dont apprieciate your comment on silence if you wanna start something just get out.

Ignore him
he doesn't know wat he's talking about lol

20 members

GP reset

No GP transferring

No GP keeping if a player quits

kinda what everyone wants

Quote from: Pokeh on July 05, 2012, 03:13:47 AM

Quote from: GavinGill on July 05, 2012, 12:17:02 AM

Quote from: Pokeh on July 04, 2012, 10:17:09 PM
no we can make it so it stays cuz at one point ross was my bitch and he made 2 mil gp for my guild

But then we're left with the same problem. When you lose a guild member, it should be a sacrifice, just like it was in BOTS!! and BOUT. Otherwise people can just join a guild for the sake of grinding GP for their friend, then go off and do the same for other people. That shouldn't be allowed, when someone leaves, their GP should go away as well. That's what the competitive guild ranking system was built upon - not just being able to make the most GP, but being able to keep it as well. It's supposed to be a challenge, something that takes skill and diplomacy.

Then this is parallel to

Quote from: Epic xD on July 05, 2012, 02:53:21 AM
Honestly, I'm surprised you're only disappointed now. The whole guild system in Bots is just pathetic. Ranking a guild by points is a really stupid concept. All it does is show how much people play the game in the first place. You want guilds to be competitive over points? Imo, a guild should be competitive within itself over a specific game mode (sector, PvP, BvB). At least that way, the players actually do something interesting, have fun, and get better at the game.

/bai

How the gp system works will directly affect how people should earn gp in the first place. Let's try to get that down. Then, depending on how it ends up we can decide how the gp system would work. :/

We could incentivise PvP and BvB with something like this: http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,26891.0.html (http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,26891.0.html)

That way, instead of mindlessly grinding for hours on end for GP, players would be able to get it through the other modes as well. With more people playing those modes, the metagame of the average player is bound to improve and it'd spark interest in PvP/BvB again.

Quote from: GavinGill on July 05, 2012, 07:23:41 AM

Quote from: Pokeh on July 05, 2012, 03:13:47 AM

Quote from: GavinGill on July 05, 2012, 12:17:02 AM

Quote from: Pokeh on July 04, 2012, 10:17:09 PM
no we can make it so it stays cuz at one point ross was my bitch and he made 2 mil gp for my guild

But then we're left with the same problem. When you lose a guild member, it should be a sacrifice, just like it was in BOTS!! and BOUT. Otherwise people can just join a guild for the sake of grinding GP for their friend, then go off and do the same for other people. That shouldn't be allowed, when someone leaves, their GP should go away as well. That's what the competitive guild ranking system was built upon - not just being able to make the most GP, but being able to keep it as well. It's supposed to be a challenge, something that takes skill and diplomacy.

Then this is parallel to

Quote from: Epic xD on July 05, 2012, 02:53:21 AM
Honestly, I'm surprised you're only disappointed now. The whole guild system in Bots is just pathetic. Ranking a guild by points is a really stupid concept. All it does is show how much people play the game in the first place. You want guilds to be competitive over points? Imo, a guild should be competitive within itself over a specific game mode (sector, PvP, BvB). At least that way, the players actually do something interesting, have fun, and get better at the game.

/bai

How the gp system works will directly affect how people should earn gp in the first place. Let's try to get that down. Then, depending on how it ends up we can decide how the gp system would work. :/

We could incentivise PvP and BvB with something like this: http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,26891.0.html (http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php/topic,26891.0.html)

That way, instead of mindlessly grinding for hours on end for GP, players would be able to get it through the other modes as well. With more people playing those modes, the metagame of the average player is bound to improve and it'd spark interest in PvP/BvB again.

Ridiculously awesome

Quote from: Scythe on July 05, 2012, 05:53:34 AM
20or25 members

GP reset

No GP transferring

No GP keeping if a player quits

kinda what everyone wants

how 'bout maek this happen

Quote from: RedNeon on July 05, 2012, 08:22:56 AM

Quote from: Scythe on July 05, 2012, 05:53:34 AM
20

GP reset

No GP transferring

No GP keeping if a player quits

kinda what everyone wants

how 'bout maek this happen

fixed

Reset det hoe