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Quote from: Yzmajority of this is wrong < Not saying everything he said was right, but his majority statement on Zylon was correct

we care for fairness. in acclaim there wass no such thing as fairness. if you thought it was fair that you could buy your way out of a ban, if you thought it was fair that every top guild was a hack guild, if you think it was fair histo banned people for just calling him "histo", if you think gms banning people for lagging, all of that fair, then maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan you got no idea wut fairness means son

I highlighted incorrect opinions in red, and things that Zylon and Acclaim had in common in orange. I have more than seen that there is no form of "fairness" surrounding Zylon, when Allie is in charge of something, it's who she likes best that gets the best things, doesn't have to so strictly follow the rules, or better yet, gets promotions; when Kenny is in charge of a decision, although I liked talking to Kenny before, he typically helps the person paying him the most. As far as guilds go, it's not really hacks that get you to the top in this game, obviously, but it isn't really about skill either, it's mostly those with the most OP gear that obtain the ranks of the top guilds, and considering staff members lead a majority of the highest ranked guilds, that says something, considering they have some of the most powerful gear in the game. I've also witnessed people debating with Kenny on whether they could get out of a ban or not, those with membership typically have a better chance of getting out of one, dunno how all that shit goes now, but I've seen it happen. As for the last one, I've never seen anyone banned for lagging or some such thing, but I've seen Allie kick people from the game if they were doing something she considered "noobish" in her pvp rooms, which could be any style of pvp she didn't like.

^ Not really hating, just denoting that a staff member in a company, defending the company, isn't really reliable, and there's different instances in Zylon's history that make the paragraph hypocritical.

Allie is in charge, if you dont like it, leave? this topic wont accomplish anything except start a argument I think

its going to go no where my friend sorry.

Historian was way worse, tbh.

hes back!

I was under the impression this forum could contain rants, you know, meaningless angry paragraphs against something? Doesn't matter if it goes anywhere, posted for informational purposes, Cooky, you are late on the draw, I left awhile ago.

Historian was definitely wrose, I wasn't making a comparison .-.

Quote from: zepher12 on November 14, 2012, 07:08:55 PM
I was under the impression this forum could contain rants, you know, meaningless angry paragraphs against something? Doesn't matter if it goes anywhere, posted for informational purposes, Cooky, you are late on the draw, I left awhile ago.

Historian was definitely wrose, I wasn't making a comparison .-.

trust me I know all about the feedback/rants section  :(

Quote from: Cooky on November 14, 2012, 07:10:50 PM

Quote from: zepher12 on November 14, 2012, 07:08:55 PM
I was under the impression this forum could contain rants, you know, meaningless angry paragraphs against something? Doesn't matter if it goes anywhere, posted for informational purposes, Cooky, you are late on the draw, I left awhile ago.

Historian was definitely wrose, I wasn't making a comparison .-.

trust me I know all about the feedback/rants section  :(

So I can see, I'm just saying a rant needs no real purpose, if it starts an argument that's due to the butthurt of someone who read it. I have no intentions of making anyone mad, so if they do, it's not because that was the purpose of this thread.

@Pig: Not really back at all, was just purusing the forums and noticed Tricky's post, found it disagreeable

Deep inside we all know you're right Muncay.
But those who care about Allie's/other staff's opinion won't admit it.

Quote from: NeoKiller on November 14, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
Deep inside we all know you're right Muncay.
But those who care about Allie's/other staff's opinion won't admit it.

Which is why all form of debate ends up sucking in this community, as inherently the staff are part of the community, and people are afraid to debate with them, and they always involve themselves in debate, their points are basically the only ones that stand.

Quote from: zepher12 on November 14, 2012, 07:23:14 PM
Which is why all form of debate ends up sucking in this community, as inherently the staff are part of the community, and people are afraid to debate with them, and they always involve themselves in debate, their points are absically the only ones that stand.

ok I have to kinda agree with this part

Quote from: zepher12 on November 14, 2012, 07:23:14 PM

Quote from: NeoKiller on November 14, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
Deep inside we all know you're right Muncay.
But those who care about Allie's/other staff's opinion won't admit it.

Which is why all form of debate ends up sucking in this community, as inherently the staff are part of the community, and people are afraid to debate with them, and they always involve themselves in debate, their points are absically the only ones that stand.

Quote from: MagicXR on November 14, 2012, 07:24:59 PM

Quote from: zepher12 on November 14, 2012, 07:23:14 PM

Quote from: NeoKiller on November 14, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
Deep inside we all know you're right Muncay.
But those who care about Allie's/other staff's opinion won't admit it.

Which is why all form of debate ends up sucking in this community, as inherently the staff are part of the community, and people are afraid to debate with them, and they always involve themselves in debate, their points are absically the only ones that stand.

Why are you quoting it?

Quote from: Selene on November 14, 2012, 07:28:00 PM

Quote from: MagicXR on November 14, 2012, 07:24:59 PM

Quote from: zepher12 on November 14, 2012, 07:23:14 PM

Quote from: NeoKiller on November 14, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
Deep inside we all know you're right Muncay.
But those who care about Allie's/other staff's opinion won't admit it.

Which is why all form of debate ends up sucking in this community, as inherently the staff are part of the community, and people are afraid to debate with them, and they always involve themselves in debate, their points are absically the only ones that stand.

Why are you quoting it?

maybe because.. he agrees with it? you know.. like.. 99.9% of all people are trying to imply when they quote a post and leave no message

Cooky's right, Selene. GJ Cooky, standing up to the man.

Quote from: Selene on November 14, 2012, 07:28:00 PM

Quote from: MagicXR on November 14, 2012, 07:24:59 PM

Quote from: zepher12 on November 14, 2012, 07:23:14 PM

Quote from: NeoKiller on November 14, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
Deep inside we all know you're right Muncay.
But those who care about Allie's/other staff's opinion won't admit it.

Which is why all form of debate ends up sucking in this community, as inherently the staff are part of the community, and people are afraid to debate with them, and they always involve themselves in debate, their points are absically the only ones that stand.

Why are you quoting it?

See, something bad has happened here, not every singular occurrence of a person doing something that seems meaningless, is actually meaningless, there was no reason to question him, at least in the thread, maybe a pm or something would have sufficed, no?

'secular occurrence'

lol

Quote from: 123bomb123 on November 14, 2012, 07:38:23 PM
'secular occurrence'

lol

I believe I spelled it wrongly, I was looking for a word that meant individual, probably just should have gone with individual, anyways, back on topic .-.

edit
Fixed it

Quote from: Selene on November 14, 2012, 07:28:00 PM

Quote from: MagicXR on November 14, 2012, 07:24:59 PM

Quote from: zepher12 on November 14, 2012, 07:23:14 PM

Quote from: NeoKiller on November 14, 2012, 07:20:20 PM
Deep inside we all know you're right Muncay.
But those who care about Allie's/other staff's opinion won't admit it.

Which is why all form of debate ends up sucking in this community, as inherently the staff are part of the community, and people are afraid to debate with them, and they always involve themselves in debate, their points are absically the only ones that stand.

Why are you quoting it?

Because I agree with it

When I unbanned race, I was under the impression you'd stay away.
But let me clear something up before locking this and muting you (as you're perm banned, your brother isn't).

First off, you can never pay your way out of a ban and membership does not and never will influence your standing.
We make plenty of money from everyone individually. No individual is a solid source of our income, therefore we do not care if a single player is gone.

Second, yes most of the top guilds are run by staff members. But do you know why? Because I don't hire idiots. The people I allow to join my staff are the top in the game, socially and skillfully. You're an absolute moron to even consider that staff influences the top guilds, you owned a top guild yourself and you're among the most undeserving for staff in the community.

Third, if I was incredibly bias Mater would have been GM by now. Faith would have maintained admin throughout our entire friendship, and opti and star would have the ability to have whatever they want. It may look like that the other way, because I hate you as a person and am therefore bias whilst dealing with you, making fairness of everyone else seem bias.

I request, for racenata's sake you do not break another rule by bypassing this mute. Else, I'll have to IP ban again. Think of your brother instead of yourself for once in your life.

mfw "we are bias"

mfw max is the only staff member who gives money to zylon and has recently stopped

mfw every top spender has been messed with heavily for breaking rules recently

mfw you are all overly sensitive children

mfw "top guilds" run by staff and i am the only person with gp in my guild

mfw other top guilds are pretty much staffless

mfw you are a jealous noobcake



and to be honest anyone who agrees with muncay just wants to be e-thugs, congratz you stood up to the establishment on the internet, accomplished nothing and did it all while knowing less than jack-shit. please pm me proof of unfairness so i can prove it wrong, and you can just say it's invalid or something.

hey neo remember that time you yelled at us for something and later you were like oh my bad i was wrong but i'm still mad at you because i'm neo and i hate the establishment