Quote from: Purple on October 10, 2013, 07:27:04 PM
As far as i'm aware Allie checks the logs every single day, and I imagine that they log gifts. If that's true, then this wouldn't be a problem as it would be EXTREMELY obvious.

well this is why my original idea was to find an alternative to giving them the gigas to purchase these items so that we don't set up new players for that possibility. They don't know that and many of them don't know any better as this game attracts many younger teens / children who think it's just a game and any advantage they can get, many will take.

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Quote from: Selene on October 10, 2013, 04:43:13 PM
Idea: When you make an account and choose your Bot type, you'll get the parts of the Bot type you have chosen in a box called "starter BOT".
Items come with it:
Level 1 parts; head, body, arms, shield, arm part.
Gun (level 1)
Random wing (1 day)
Random flags (1 day)
Coin head (1 day)
Lucky E.F (1 day)
10k Gigas
Random gift

That's basically an in depth explanation of my idea. 10k gigs would cause poor players to continuously create and gift off the currency imho though. So everything minus that, we can keep that at 500-1000 and make them earn it since they accumulate at a moderate pace through game play and random donations. On top of what sox said unless clarified

Nobody would farm 10k gigas, you get so much more than that from one round of 172.

lvl 1s can't farm that, it is a lot for them

you mean they can?  Honestly it takes a pro like 1:30 to finish 172 on hard which is not always available as opposed to a noob just gifting 10k to another account, deleting and creating which takes about 35-40 seconds, you can use a bot to repeat this sequence before you slept and by the time you wake up you'd have like several tens of millions. Let's not pretend hackers and botters are not prominent within the game atm.

just saying.

Quote from: Selene on October 10, 2013, 04:43:13 PM
Idea: When you make an account and choose your Bot type, you'll get the parts of the Bot type you have chosen in a box called "starter BOT".
Items come with it:
Level 1 parts; head, body, arms, shield, arm part.
Gun (level 1)
Random wing (1 day)
Random flags (1 day)
Coin head (1 day)
Lucky E.F (1 day)
10k Gigas
Random gift

That's basically an in depth explanation of my idea. 10k gigs would cause poor players to continuously create and gift off the currency imho though. So everything minus that, we can keep that at 500-1000 and make them earn it since they accumulate at a moderate pace through game play and random donations. On top of what sox said unless clarified

Quote from: Purple on October 10, 2013, 04:10:15 PM

You're wrong about the level scaling. I found going from 217ish-221 to be some of the easiest leveling i've ever done, yet level 1-50 bored the hell out of me making it impossible for me to do.

Pretty sure some of the starting maps give the same exp for about 5-7 maps in a row, I found that out when making my exp chart for the maps, though I can't seem to find it by using the forum's search function i'm pretty sure the information is still accurate. I never completed it because leveling was just too boring / time consuming, especially since the only reward you're getting is exp. All the gigas / items / coins you get from leveling adds up to nothing compared to grinding at the level cap.

The variance in exp received in the lower levels should be buffed up a little I do agree, but I've had the courtesy of assisting my friends through this and upon realizing this, I made a new character the other day and that's really how I came up with this suggestion. Like I said it's a start and what you've pointed out is the bigger picture in the grand scheme of things.

Ideally (which is a 50/50 type deal). The fact that the promotional items would last 1-3 days or only several games would give them a sense of urgency to familiarize themselves with the game and move on to higher levels with their obtained in game experience.

Quote from: Allie on October 10, 2013, 04:20:39 PM
I agree.
This'll roll out in a couple patches when I release something I recently started working on.

Woo go Allie  

Quote from: Purple on October 10, 2013, 03:56:02 PM
Even though I like the idea, I feel like it's a stupid attempt at finding a solution for the problem.

The problem is players basically have to leech to level up. The exp scaling per level needs to be fixed, but I doubt the Admins are willing to put the time into fixing it.

I agree, but this is at least a small patch to a big wound. This would give new players at least some functionality instead of being dead weight. The exp scaling isn't too bad if we allow beginners to play the lower levels themselves because they will level after their first game and subsequent games following.

Leeching will always be around, but if we can at least allow some beginners to rise from giving them the tools to become skilled on their own, we'll at least have accomplished something. I'm aware many of them will still be enticed to leech because the majority of our community is populated by hardened veterans who are willing to allow them to.

A new player currently starts with 500 gigas & 2 boza mercenaries. I can't even say that's the bare minimum because we're basically making new players completely dependent on leeching and hoping someone doesn't kick them out for being a noob (granted there are nice people).

I know there would be an issue of players farming giga's if the initial giga count was greater than 5k giga's. I think to alleviate this problem we could give starting players a promotional package that includes the following.

Stock level 1 set. & level 1 gun.
promotional coin set that lasts 1 day (untradeable to prevent farming) and accounts can only receive this once.
a free active / passive skill that lasts several games.

I think that's reasonable. It gives them an emphasis on self reliance and gives them a limited taste of what can be purchased (similar to the style of other popular games).

I know staff is busy, just throwing this out there. I've noticed this problem when I showed my friends my trailer, they later on went to try the game and came back to me saying wtf I'm broke and no one was on to help me so I quit.

sold

Quote from: Xx Itz Ian on October 10, 2013, 01:29:59 PM
****ing problems - a$ap rocky & drake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgKOFTm3UrU

Quote from: paranoia on October 09, 2013, 10:28:24 PM

Quote from: Cooky on October 09, 2013, 10:27:43 PM
my favorite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJK2wDZwTO8

Thats you of course your going to like it.

Didn't know you listen to flatbush zombie, but heres something harder blast this in your car :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J_MUvcOzhY

lmao @cooky's response.

Yeah, I have a playlist for flatbush, cassidy and a$ap mob for when I'm stuck in traffic to help pass the time hahaha.

I've heard lil jay somewhere before, I know I've heard duck searching around digital dripped. I usually just play songs that are weed or banger orientated because a lot of my friends live in the gang infested ghetto and I try not to play anything that will turn heads in a bad way.

This is seemingly thug? I blast this in my car time to time and I've had people obviously way more thug than myself  roll down their window all the way and ask me what song this is   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpbLXGiANfE

happy birthday sir    20 is a great age, not quite 21, but at least you're keeping your youth.

well without regards to what anyone else said, I think this is a pretty neat idea. I think it would make armor distinction a little bit harder, but definitely would throw in a unique spin to the game that everyone can see.

was too poor after +4/+5 came out 

Quote from: paranoia on October 05, 2013, 04:15:36 PM

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Quote from: paranoia on October 05, 2013, 03:57:37 PM
I know that, but you did state that you heard it live in the flesh am I wrong? There no way you could have talked to them. Heres a little history:

I'm glad you know how to google search and copy / paste, but like I said that doesn't mean you know anything. Btw, yes I really did talk to them. If I asked you to name 10 important figures in old school hip hop I bet you a million dollars you wouldn't be able to name more than 3 without having to go on google and look it up. I met these people at the radiotron (which is formerly the radio club, but you wouldn't know that unless you did deep research).  Also at the roxy and several bboy events in SoCal and philly.  Proof? I was there when skeeter rabbit received his life time achievement award in august (which again, you can't really look this up).  How does this tie in? He's in rock steady which is the most influential bboy crew. Now how does that tie in with rapping? The events which would draw in up and coming emcee's which are now famous today such as twista and even jay z.

now, what I just told you would take several hours of history research and I summed it up for you in like 20 minutes? instead of what you did and copied because your regular grammar is no where near that caliber and there's no way in hell you knew that off the top of your head. So there's your proof. Burn

Your persistent ill give you that, but yet no pictures,no facts  no proof. I could have said I am the richest man on earth but do I have proof nope. I am going to be the better man and as a matter of fact lets end it how we started it one last rap battle. Okay you and I a fair fighting chance.

What I told you was straight fact, like I said you would need to do heavy research unless you already knew these things. I invite you to look this up and find out that I'm on point with my history and didn't just copy and paste it off a website.

I will just wait until you receive the aforementioned microphone (unless you already did) until I drop my next response so that way you can't say the lack of a mic is what hindered your desired outcome.

Quote from: paranoia on October 05, 2013, 03:57:37 PM
I know that, but you did state that you heard it live in the flesh am I wrong? There no way you could have talked to them. Heres a little history:

I'm glad you know how to google search and copy / paste, but like I said that doesn't mean you know anything. Btw, yes I really did talk to them. If I asked you to name 10 important figures in old school hip hop I bet you a million dollars you wouldn't be able to name more than 3 without having to go on google and look it up. I met these people at the radiotron (which is formerly the radio club, but you wouldn't know that unless you did deep research).  Also at the roxy and several bboy events in SoCal and philly.  Proof? I was there when skeeter rabbit received his life time achievement award in august (which again, you can't really look this up).  How does this tie in? He's in rock steady which is the most influential bboy crew. Now how does that tie in with rapping? The events which would draw in up and coming emcee's which are now famous today such as twista and even jay z.

now, what I just told you would take several hours of history research and I summed it up for you in like 20 minutes? instead of what you did and copied because your regular grammar is no where near that caliber and there's no way in hell you knew that off the top of your head. So there's your proof. Burn