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short history of thematic "case"

Started by thematic, October 29, 2011, 07:14:41 PM

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thematic

19th Oct / GMT+1 / 8:28-8:43 / MSN message to Santa

Reported 2 guys on low server for getting enormous amounts of bs in very short time and asked is it maybe because of a voting bug noticed. Described him a test made about it.
In short, voting by internet mobile card, each time connected, gets me different ip, so application lets me voting, no matter the 12 hours time passed condition.


If I voted this way successfully, then everyone else also could do it. How many voters did it already? Does it mean that voting this way is therefore questionable in it's legitimity?


19th Oct / GMT+1 / 12:31–12:36 / MSN chat with Santa

After woke up, Santa told me: "You can vote as many times as you want, if your IP changes".
Answered that I am still not sure about this voting concept, but if allowed, then I'll vote this way.


No other info about regularity dilemma, nor an explanation for bs amount those 2 guys. So explained myself as something already permited to others before me, who also noticed that. Those 2 guys also got permition to vote this way?

Nevertheless, in next two days voted cca 500 times by mobile internet card, expecting 60$ extra bill for it, and earned cca 1.5 m bs extra, on each server.
Most of this extra earned bs traded in game lobby from high server to low and, I must admit, felt no guilty about it. On contrary, I was positively surprised how stuff decided to let me earn bs easily, by voting this way. Of course, I was asking myself if others do that, so mentioned it to Ice also.
Finally concluded: "If the one is crazy enough to pay so expensively mobile internet voting, then let him have it".

All this culminated by someones reporting me to Allie (no matter who did it or why).


21st Oct / GMT+1 / later afternoon / in-game lobby

Allie attacked me in lobby, in front of all the players that moment logged in: "...abused bs voting system, to be banned for it..." and so on.... Told her to contact Santa about it first, so we can discuss it correctly. She didn't answer me.

Wanted to play some games, but so many players started annoying me with different comments, mostly unpleasant, so i quit playing.
Left Santa a message on MSN asking for help, reminding him to that permition 2 days before.


21st Oct / GMT+1 / 20:05 / Guild hub (stuff only)

Having in mind me as a Silence coleader, have contacted guild leadership immediately, and for good of Silence, resignated on my guild coleader position. My shame is not to be the shame of Silence.

Also sent back all the extra bs to Santa from both servers, although noone asked me to do it, or even ordered me to do it.


21st Oct / GMT+1 / 20:37–20:50 / MSN chat with Santa and Allie

Santa first explained me to not be punished anyhow, because he is the one who let me do it.
Allie joined to our chat and explained her reasons for treating me that way:
- from now on made a rule that it can't happen anymore
- used me as prime example as to why such a rule is necessary
- her intention was not to make people believe I am a cheater, although I abused the system
- I won't be punished because it is Santa's mistake
- I'll be given back all this extra bs
- made an announcement in BC about this
Santa agreed:
- I won't be punished because it is his mistake
- as he allowed it to me, he allowed it to others also
- no blame will ever be shifted towards me, or others as well who also did it


After all this I still feel only frustration and emptyness – no satisfaction at all. Why?

Allie attacked me without checking the facts with me first. She did it in her typical way, impulsively theatrically, in front of all the community here. This way message sent, from an admin, noone else couldn't take otherwise then I am a cheater. Those 2 guys reported earlier, noone mentioned ever. Why not taken them as an example?

Extra bs, given to me again by Allie's wish, I sent once again back to Santa, so noone of these adolescent (false) moralists here, could say I made use of it.

Announcement she made (one row of text), with me mentioned, is not enough for apology an admin is expected to give after all this. On contrary, from the moment announcement made, everyone else again started to ask me what happened. I don't need it really.

Also, her info sources in this case were, or negatively motivated, or insufficiently informed. In both cases, it's no excuse for her treating me this way. She had to ask me first.

After reported the voting bug to an admin, after got an permition to use it, why I was then blamed for using it, and finally been embarassed in public because of it?

I can't not to think: Is it because I am from Silence, and those from Silence are always only guilty?

I am also not sure which Allie was it here mostly: Allie the player (human only), Allie the admin (rules protector), or Allie the owner (manager)? Or maybe all of this mixed up somehow?

As BC member for more then a year here, paid for memberships and donations almost 700$, helped whoever I could, I was doing my best to be polite, respectful and honest member of this community.
Additionally, as an adult, an really old guy here (soon 51), I have always on mind to be positive example to kids here, by all means.

In conclusion to all this happened, made final decision.


22nd Oct / GMT+1 / 14:43 / Guild hub (stuff only)

After a night overslept, wrote to guild leaders:
- after all the sh*t here, decided to give up totally from BC
- cancelled all my regular monthly memberships and donations (86.5$ monthly)
- no point for me to pay anything anymore here and listen all the cr*p
- insulted in public, but not apologized to in public
- been attacked w/o checking first, as many others here (from Silence or not)
- so impulsive (Allie the player), unrespectfull (Allie the admin), unprofessional (Allie the owner)


My role here is done. Finished. This BC world is not my world anymore. Some people here are not of my taste.

But I don't want anyone of you who read this, to feel any need to react anyhow because of all this.
This is my story only, isolated one, no matter who else could find himself happened something like this, or feeling like this. This is only my case and it's only me who has to deal with it.

To all of you here I played with - thanks for having a pleasant time and funny interesting games.

Had special fun in guild race against favourized and privileged ones.
Our team-work and helpfulness in coordination with activness and persistence – that's the right recipe for completing Silence's mission. Continue this way and the mission will be done soon! Silence deserves it.

And be what you are – the Silence!

:)  bye, thematic

NeoKiller

October 29, 2011, 07:26:35 PM #1 Last Edit: October 29, 2011, 07:27:03 PM by NeoKiller
Hell, I read every word of that wall of text cause I didn't know what happened.
And I really think you were treated unfairly and Allie should apologize.
Hope you'll change your mind, if not goodbye, I had always fun playing with you and thanks for all your help in low server.

KillerPig

God damnit.

Gratz Allie, you just chased away one of the most respected and dedicated people here.

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Meteor

Gotta tell you I actually read ALL of that, and I never read walls of text. Ever. That shows my respect for you, and I really feel for what happened to you. So if you really are quitting for good, all I can say is good luck in life, dude. :-\

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NeoKiller

Quote from: Meteor on October 29, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
Gotta tell you I actually read ALL of that, and I never read walls of text. Ever. That shows my respect for you, and I really feel for what happened to you. So if you really are quitting for good, all I can say is good luck in life, dude. :-\
Same, that's one of the reasons I don't read applications :)

Toast

I usually never read any of these long wordwalls, but, thematic was one of the most respected and nicest player around. Well, thematic, hope you change your mind to come back, if not, goodbye and hope to see you again.


Bubu

Seems that it's late for aplogies. Good luck on your life, you were an epic grinder and I'm sure you still have and had the respect of most of people here.
Thanx to Meta, Jason and Surgey for the Signs :]

kaos555

I demand we have like ub's that remind us all of thematic :(
You were one of the  nicest players around, you helped me in the low server, I wish you luck in life.
I do hope you come back tho.

The path is open.


123bomb123

IGN: MisterZ

ZeaL - Rank 1 in antagonizing, just
because.


Rub me out like genies, won't concede til I'm graffiti
Quote from: Yz on January 14, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
mrz is like top 40 and would probly be like
"fuk yeh n00bs im god bow to god''

antisickness

QuoteMy role here is done. Finished. This BC world is not my world anymore. Some people here are not of my taste.

But I don't want anyone of you who read this, to feel any need to react anyhow because of all this.
This is my story only, isolated one, no matter who else could find himself happened something like this, or feeling like this. This is only my case and it's only me who has to deal with it.

To all of you here I played with - thanks for having a pleasant time and funny interesting games.

Had special fun in guild race against favourized and privileged ones.
Our team-work and helpfulness in coordination with activness and persistence – that's the right recipe for completing Silence's mission. Continue this way and the mission will be done soon! Silence deserves it.

And be what you are – the Silence!

  bye, thematic

...That...was beautiful...  :'(  I did not know your BC life was so... jagged.

I truly hope to see you soon. Even though I didn't meet you face to face, It seems like you've touched alot of players and, also, encouraged them to join you in a place where nobody played.

You may have walked a lonely path but you now walk away knowing there are more people behind you. You've come a long way.

Take care, man. 

mhj

I have never ever read this much on a forum before. Only because it was you who posted the thread, I read it all.
It was fun playing with you on low matic. I will miss you around.

- Finally found out how old you are matic :)






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Yz

I really regret not knowing you better mate. I have a lot of compliments to give but I can't think of which ones to say first, so I'll just say bye, and good luck/have fun with whatever you do next.
DISCORD killyzkill

Allie

October 30, 2011, 02:05:31 AM #12 Last Edit: October 30, 2011, 02:05:59 AM by Allie
Though I do not have the patience to read it all, I find I'll finally say this.
Thematic, I was the one talking to you on MSN that day, Kenny was gone all day.
I wasn't attacking you, you weren't in the lobby, you wouldn't know what I said.
Not once did I say anything negative towards you.
Nor did I need to "check my facts" and "get my story straight" -- I pulled up Kenny's MSN log the moment you said Kenny said you could.

The frustration you're feeling -- it shouldn't even exist. The only problem I see here is you quitting over three people going 'lol allie said u exploited the system'. Have you even seen the shit some us like myself, ICE, etc go through with this community?
We're teased, made fun of, trolled and hated every day. Have we quit? No, not even after years have passed.

Thematic, you are one of the nicest and most loyal members I have.
But the drama scale from you is off the chart.
You get teased once and you delete your bot.
Your bot that you spent so much time and money on.
The logic to connect them just isn't there, it will take 25 optis and 65 gavins to debate that logic to me.

The worst part of your logic is that you're just like ICE. Blaming shit on me when you weren't even there. "If something goes wrong, it was Allie and her impulsiveness".
That's great. Have you ever checked your facts as to why I mentioned you?
Or did you just impulsively decide to say "Allie did this obviously because she's impulsive".
Really, I don't get it.

Every single solution I mentioned -- even mentioning it to you pretending to be Kenny -- you decided to say no to.
In the end the only reason you wanted to leave was to spite me and you know it.
The little problem (wasn't even really a problem, you just made it into a problem) had simple solutions, but you just wouldn't go along with any of the solutions.
Thematic, I can't help someone who doesn't wanna be helped. And you shouldn't blame someone for not helping if you don't let them.

Goodbye, thematic. I'm hoping you read this, as this is my final words on the subject.

BonzoDog

Everything i need to say to you has been said on "SilenceHub", but I'd just like to say again that your time and effort put into this community will never be forgotten. Thank you for creating this post so everyone knows the true story what happened and that the only thing you needed to stay in BoutCheetah was a public "apoligy" from Allie. I mean, look at the post she just posted. about 5% of it is sympothy, the other 95% is denial. Allie, why didn't you just apologise, how bad can it be?

If anyone here is sorry its me for not getting to know you better. Good luck with your life man, take care.

P.S. I'll notify you if we call mutiny on Allie, then you'll be back no doubt about it.

Allie

Bonzo, what you don't know is what went on behind the scenes.
I apologized 50+ times for what I apparently did that Thematic didn't see personally.
I even offered him complete customization of his bot -- level, items, giga count, coin count, stract count, name -- of his choice. He turned it down.
He only quit to spite me.
And due to his massive respect level, he knows people are more likely to feel sympathy for him if he says I didn't apologize.

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