[Pokeh]

yeah and allow non-members to have ~the same speed as members. don't make speed such a huge gap, but focus on other stats if you really have to for member benefits.

[Nucleaon]

-1, why? Gotta go fast, Ross is all about speed. 

This is probably gonna be the reason why speed isn't gonna get nerfed.

Imo it should, peeps are too damn fast I.E. Ross, it gest very annoying. a full speed surge could be as fast as Kyura, (give or take like 200 speed.)

[Epic xD]

Ya, it's so obvious that speed is OP. Here are my suggestions:

1) Wings should give 65 speed, not 145.
2) Cut the speed given by surge bodies and other items by 10-20%.

This way, surges are still fast, but it isn't as ridiculous.

[Yz]

+1, been saying this for years

Laxus must not be reading properly today coz he's waaaay in the wrong cbf getting into it tho

[Epic xD]

whats cbf? and speed isn't that bad omg.

Alright, you're saying that speed isn't bad because speed isn't bad. That's some great logic, bro.

[123bomb123]

whats cbf? and speed isn't that bad omg.

Alright, you're saying that speed isn't bad because speed isn't bad. That's some great logic, bro.

All I said was speed isn't that bad. Referring to surges speed atm not horrible. Maybe a slight degrade but not nerfing every single speed item.

plz stop. rlly, just don't post in this thread.

[Yz]

whats cbf? and speed isn't that bad omg.

Alright, you're saying that speed isn't bad because speed isn't bad. That's some great logic, bro.

All I said was speed isn't that bad. Referring to surges speed atm not horrible. Maybe a slight degrade but not nerfing every single speed item.

plz stop. rlly, just don't post in this thread.

No I'll keep posting. If you didn't flame earlier and lose your **** maybe I would stop.

stop. you're turning it from a debate into a bitch fit, so no more posting unless it's constructive.

and "it's a bad idea" isn't constructive btw

[hawk5005]

Nope.

Responding with "no" isn't saying anything. At least put in why..

I say no because I'm a biased surge user and even if I barely play I still enjoy my speed which is the only reason I don't constantly lose in holo or in any other games against always transed rams (and if they have kow/ white-super-mega-hitbox-ninja the speed does't even make a difference anymore). I'm not even taking patches in consideration because rarely anyone plays with patch, and if they do they camp 24/7 with upper, and even with 20% speed nerf they would still camp.

[matan124]

+1

Make the max speed 1700~1600 instead of 1850 and take it all from the body and not items because it will hurt their value, tho you can take some from the wings.

[qolderman]

+1

[Eat4two]

Yes, PvP & BvB needs to be more balanced, I support your idea Z.

[Madprox]

Noooo mai speed

[Cooky]

If you are annoyed with the speed, put Bot speed tag on. everyone will be same speed.

I knew someone would say this 

that's for pvp/base only..


anyway I think its a good idea I think it would better balance the game but people will be mad over it who liked being so fast

[mo9]

i feel your pain z

[mo9]

whats cbf? and speed isn't that bad omg.

it is tho