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new special trans

Started by KillerPig, January 01, 2014, 03:02:14 PM

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Epic xD

January 02, 2014, 04:16:49 AM #15 Last Edit: January 02, 2014, 04:23:37 AM by Epic xD
>says he's not good
>preaches as if he is good
>logic

nice

Honestly, you're not really doing anything for this suggestion/thread besides being a huge pain. .-.

Jake and Cooky make some good points here. The T-Bot transformations make Special Trans way too much of a gamble to consider even using in the first place. Also, by making Special Trans better, Rams become better by extension, which makes this game more balanced.

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

Reviax

Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:47:05 AM
Quote from: Reviax on January 02, 2014, 03:35:36 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:31:41 AM
Quote from: 123bomb123 on January 02, 2014, 03:23:51 AM
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 03:15:56 AM
Quote from: Reviax on January 02, 2014, 03:12:56 AM
^There are 6 transes you can get with SP (if the T-bot garbage is removed.)
-Kowbat (Crazy good)
-Bugbear (Crazy good)
-Mandragore (Imo this is decent)
-Melissa (Not so good)
-Blaster (Not so good)

If I had high SP I would much rather take the chance and try to go for Kowbat or Bugbear (because those are absolutely insane). Worst case scenario I will end up wth Melissa or Blaster, but even those 2 are amazing compared to both the T-Bot transes. Special Trans is all about luck. You can't exactly rely on it, but it can be the ticket to winning the game (or losing it).

Bugbear is not that great because it is slow and easy to outrun on flop (I saw flop because this is the only map people are competative on). On holodeck it is great though.
both bugbear and blaster r pretty good in base (pushing wise) because of they crazy large hit box. 4/5 trans' on the SP list (excluding t bot) r good and can rekt ppl if they know how 2 use... SP should be a game-changing stat not a disadvantage..

But I am talking about Pvp. No one plays Base unless it is just for lols or lyfe and a few others. I agree that the T-bot transes should be put into the shop like the golem and musz however.
But Bugbear is good on flop too. The jump attack range and it's sidewind ability make up for the slowness.

Any skilled player can easily manuever and outrun a bugbear on flop. Unless a surge with a bunch of speed has one.
Any skilled player can easily utilize Bugbear.  You'd be trying to run from something that you can't even get near since the jump hit has a 360 radius and can get around blocks effortlessly.

I think you can get much more hits in with this than a lanny.

Cooky

Quote from: Epic xD on January 02, 2014, 04:16:49 AM
Jake makes some good points here. The T-Bot transformations make Special Trans way too much of a gamble to consider even using in the first place. Also, by making Special Trans better, Rams become better by extension, which makes this game more balanced.

hey now I made some good points too  8)

Epic xD

January 02, 2014, 04:31:44 AM #18 Last Edit: January 02, 2014, 04:35:42 AM by Epic xD
Quote from: nanak tatum on January 02, 2014, 04:19:12 AMWell either way my logic is correct. I still have a lot of experience in pvp whether I am that good or not. I also learn by watching.
Also, things such as tier lists are made by people who are the best at the game and measure potential when utilized by the best people. Tier lists can be either accurate or inaccurate at lower skill levels; it ultimately depends on the person. I don't mean to sound like Opti or anything, but I've experienced this several times. The best example I can think of is in SSB. To vastly oversimplify the mechanics of the game, Mario is considered a much better character than Luigi (mid-tier compared to low-tier) due to his better projectile, approach, and combo ability at a high level. However, at a lower level of play, Luigi could be better because he does a good combo finisher with his recovery.

Bugbear has the potential to be devastating if you're good at this game. (I really don't believe anyone could find Bugbear to be hard to use...)

tl;dr
Your calling Bugbear bad is saying Bugbear shouldn't be placed high on a tier list. That simply isn't true.

Quote from: KillerPig on June 24, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
I've been debating with myself about this for a long time now. No, I'm not leaving BC, but when I get back, I'll be asking the girl I've liked for a long time to go out with me. Wish me luck. Zomg I'm so excited.

KillerPig

oye can we all agree new special trans are bad and need to be remove


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Cooky

Quote from: KillerPig on January 02, 2014, 04:15:31 PM
oye can we all agree new special trans are bad and need to be remove



MedicaL

Quote from: KillerPig on January 02, 2014, 04:15:31 PM
oye can we all agree new special trans are bad and need to be remove


+1 to this fellow Cyberspace Citizen.



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