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New Item - Admin Verified Seller Badge

Started by Cooky, December 30, 2013, 05:11:23 PM

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Cooky

My idea is a new in-game item called Admin Verified Seller Badge

This badge has no in-game functions and cannot be equipped or used, similar to a snowball

The purpose of the badge is to prove to people that you are an admin verified membership/zylon coin seller

So when you are going to buy from someone on the admin verified list.. you ask to see their badge. If they cant show it to you.. they are a scammer and you can report them right away. The badge will be untradeable so that it will always stay with that account.

This should effectively eliminate the 'fake being someone on the admin verified list 'scamming which has been pretty bad

So you make a few membership/zylon coin sells.. then you show a staff member. If they can confirm the sales, you are eligible to be added to the admin verified list. First you have to agree that if you are ever found to be account sharing or selling your account, all of your accounts will be banned. This is to prevent the account from changing hands and someone else pretending to be that person and abusing the badge. Then if you agree to those terms, you will sent an admin verified seller badge and once you get it, you can be added to the list.

If you ever don't want to be on the list any longer, you just tell staff and they will remove your badge and name from the list.

How does that sound?


Purple

"So you make a few membership/zylon coin sells.. then you show a staff member. If they can confirm the sales, you are eligible to be added to the admin verified list."

So your gr8 plan is to cause an influx of scams to get a few verified sellers? gr8 idea m8



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Cooky

Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 05:13:16 PM
"So you make a few membership/zylon coin sells.. then you show a staff member. If they can confirm the sales, you are eligible to be added to the admin verified list."

So your gr8 plan is to cause an influx of scams to get a few verified sellers? gr8 idea m8

That's how the list has always worked. You show that you are a successful, non scamming, membership and/or zylon coins seller.. and you get added to the list

Not sure why you think that would be any reason for an 'influx of scams' ..

Purple

Quote from: Cooky on December 30, 2013, 05:14:33 PM
Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 05:13:16 PM
"So you make a few membership/zylon coin sells.. then you show a staff member. If they can confirm the sales, you are eligible to be added to the admin verified list."

So your gr8 plan is to cause an influx of scams to get a few verified sellers? gr8 idea m8

That's how the list has always worked. You show that you are a successful, non scamming, membership and/or zylon coins seller.. and you get added to the list

Not sure why you think that would be any reason for an 'influx of scams' ..

Here's the way it'd work in my head:

Announcement is made saying that a new 'badge' is made that verified sellers will have. The post then explains that to become verified you have to show 5 proof of purchases for membership/zc.

Now you have a bunch of scammers in the lobby saying they're selling membership/zc, and they're not verified because they have yet to get 5 proof of purchases.



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JustRK

as the person who currently checks this stuff.  The person has to be using a verified pay pal and has to have several transactions already.


Instead of having a badge, it would just be easier if while in the trade their name was a different color and no where else.
Then we could easily change someones name color or what ever when we choose to remove them.


This would also be timed, you will lose this text color or badge when:
3 months has passed without a single sale
you have scammed someone
you have sold your account or it has been compromised

Purple

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:18:21 PM
as the person who currently checks this stuff.  The person has to be using a verified pay pal and has to have several transactions already.


Instead of having a badge, it would just be easier if while in the trade their name was a different color and no where else.
Then we could easily change someones name color or what ever when we choose to remove them.


This would also be timed, you will lose this text color or badge when:
3 months has passed without a single sale
you have scammed someone
you have sold your account or it has been compromised

Why put a time limit? I've been on the seller list ever since it was created it pretty much, no reason I should get removed after a certain amount of time.



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Cooky

Yeah changing the name color would be a lot easier, good idea

zid_master

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:18:21 PM

3 months has passed without a single sale

i was selling ZC too. but i cant sell it again within 3 months.. i need to take time to sell it again.



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JustRK

Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 05:20:11 PM
Why put a time limit? I've been on the seller list ever since it was created it pretty much, no reason I should get removed after a certain amount of time.


Just an idea to keep the list fresh (even though it's just us two atm lel).  A lot of people forget they are on the list, so perhaps if they haven't made a single sale in 3 months we would at least require them to verify they'd still like to be on it verbatim so that we don't refer buyers to them for nothing.

Also for the meantime, I will edit the list to have the sellers forum name with their Private Message box linked along with their in-game names so that there is no confusion and someone can't pretend to be another forum user (they'd just have to watch out for typo's).

Rossbach

December 30, 2013, 05:38:29 PM #10 Last Edit: December 30, 2013, 05:41:59 PM by Rossbach
Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 05:20:11 PM
Why put a time limit? I've been on the seller list ever since it was created it pretty much, no reason I should get removed after a certain amount of time.


A lot of people forget they are on the list.

Why would it even matter if they forgot they are a verified seller?



Anyways +1 for something along the lines of this (like color but needs something a bit diff, see below for why.) However no for the badge it seems rather annoying and just takes up space, not like Ross will partake in this.

Few things for this tho:

1. How would the color work? Have something like a purple name in lobby list while there in lobby? What if new things come out so that people will have a colored name in the lobby (/member shop / tittles / bla bla.) They can't have more than 1 on. However they could add something to let you select what color you want to be displayed as. But this is just gonna give people a headache.


2. Seems like the verified people may cause a mess in scams. While RK is suggesting verified for trade that involve real money, it will be costly to do this, just to get verified, then abuse it to trick people and scam them. Or they may go and sell there acc, account share etc. It sorta sets it up like bait.


3. Why simply membership / ZC? There are other things people can scam. Plus there are trustworthy people who don't sell that shiz. This Might make people to spend their money simply to get into this "list," can't say that as a negative or as a positive though.





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JustRK



Answer to ross' first questions
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Answer to remaining question

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Rossbach

December 30, 2013, 06:17:03 PM #13 Last Edit: December 30, 2013, 06:21:38 PM by Rossbach
Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:47:36 PM


Answer to ross' first questions
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Derp.


There were 3 main questions (ignoring sub-questions) which was the first line; "Why would it even matter if they forgot they are a verified seller?", then #1 and #3. #2 in the list was not even a question. It was a statement that people can use it to abuse until ofc they are caught, well after they go and scam 100b gigas.


"Answer to ross' first questions"

*completely ignores Ross' first question on how foretasting ur verified even matter.* Answers question 1, failed to realise #2 was not a question, but highlighted the bottom bit about removeing it, question # 3 was never answer, leaving no more, but then you posted about the rest of Ross' answers. So maybe the next part is for #3?



#1 Ok, at first Ross thought it was not possible to change in-trade color, talked to Allie and the info was outdated.

Answer to remaining question

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:47:36 PM

Answer to remaining question

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Noooooope. Nothing at all to do with #3. Nice.

Don't know what this 2nd one is even answering for Ross.

And now to bring up the first one...

Why would it even matter if they forgot they are a verified seller? Plus if every time they go into a trade and they find out their name color is diff you would think they would clue in?  ::)





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JustRK

I'm surprised you're having difficulty finding the answer to your questions with the answers right above it.

1) how does forgetting you are verified matter? Speaking in current context (where there is no colored name or badge) It's just to currently refer buyers to active sellers.  Why put 12 verified people on a list if 10 of them will say "no I'm not selling right now"? That would just piss off the buyer and make them waste their time thinking we have an outdated list. If a seller that was previously verified becomes active again they can ask to be put back on.

2) You asked how will the color work? which is why I stated it should only be in the trade screen only because even staff who have different colored text in the lobby....have black text in the trade?

3) I also said people would lose their text / verified status if they scammed or their account was hacked or sold. That's after going through the verification process, who is going to spend that much real money to get colored text and find someone dumb enough to get massively scammed just so that they can be banned?

4) He's referring to the verified sellers list for membership and zc that tricky made soooo did you miss the memo? That's why we're only talking about said subject.


btw all of what I just said is not new info  ::)

ghostkid17

if they're untradeable, how are they going to show the badge.
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Purple

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
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In response to #1:

Chances are people won't be selling for a month+.

Most people sell zc / membership when they get the extra money to do so / feel like doing it, and then stop until that time comes up again.

I probably sell at least once a month, but I don't constantly sell throughout a month.



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Reviax

Or we could just use my suggestion which has supposedly been suggested dozens of times yet not implemented.
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=46839.0

Purple

Quote from: Reviax on December 30, 2013, 07:14:42 PM
Or we could just use my suggestion which has supposedly been suggested dozens of times yet not implemented.
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=46839.0

Then people can accidentally sell memberships to the shop...



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Allie

Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 07:16:12 PM
Quote from: Reviax on December 30, 2013, 07:14:42 PM
Or we could just use my suggestion which has supposedly been suggested dozens of times yet not implemented.
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=46839.0

Then people can accidentally sell memberships to the shop...

Unless we disabled selling said item to shop.

Purple

Quote from: Allie on December 30, 2013, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 07:16:12 PM
Quote from: Reviax on December 30, 2013, 07:14:42 PM
Or we could just use my suggestion which has supposedly been suggested dozens of times yet not implemented.
http://boutcheetah.zylongaming.com/index.php?topic=46839.0

Then people can accidentally sell memberships to the shop...

Unless we disabled selling said item to shop.

ok here's my opinion on it:

Will cut into profits made by membership sellers. As a membership seller you can change your price based on demand, i've sold membership for 2-2.5x the normal rate, just because of how badly a couple people needed it. Changing it into an item that can be put into the marketplace will ruin that.


pls don't



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Rossbach

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
I'm surprised you're having difficulty finding the answer to your questions with the answers right above it.

1) how does forgetting you are verified matter? Speaking in current context (where there is no colored name or badge) It's just to currently refer buyers to active sellers.  Why put 12 verified people on a list if 10 of them will say "no I'm not selling right now"? That would just piss off the buyer and make them waste their time thinking we have an outdated list. If a seller that was previously verified becomes active again they can ask to be put back on.

2) You asked how will the color work? which is why I stated it should only be in the trade screen only because even staff who have different colored text in the lobby....have black text in the trade?

3) I also said people would lose their text / verified status if they scammed or their account was hacked or sold. That's after going through the verification process, who is going to spend that much real money to get colored text and find someone dumb enough to get massively scammed just so that they can be banned?

4) He's referring to the verified sellers list for membership and zc that tricky made soooo did you miss the memo? That's why we're only talking about said subject.


btw all of what I just said is not new info  ::)





Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
"1) how does forgetting you are verified matter? Speaking in current context (where there is no colored name or badge) It's just to currently refer buyers to active sellers.  Why put 12 verified people on a list if 10 of them will say "no I'm not selling right now"? That would just piss off the buyer and make them waste their time thinking we have an outdated list. If a seller that was previously verified becomes active again they can ask to be put back on."



"1) how does forgetting you are verified matter? "


Da fk... Sounds bad.

"how does forgetting you are verified matter?"

Need to edit this;

"how does forgetting that you are verified matter?"

Bit better, needs something else.

"Why does forgetting that you are verified matter?"

Thar we go, good enough.

Anyways Ross is gonna assume that is ur interpretation on what he asked.

"It's just to currently refer buyers to active sellers. "

Not it is not, it is currently used to state that the person is trustworthy.



Now then, it seems you are confused here.


Ross' post was not so much about this current list, this topic is about suggesting a new and better way to prove that a person is trustworthy verified seller by giving them a badge / color. Posts suggesting only about changing the old list is off topic. Ross took the post of you suggesting:

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:18:21 PM
as the person who currently checks this stuff.  The person has to be using a verified pay pal and has to have several transactions already.


Instead of having a badge, it would just be easier if while in the trade their name was a different color and no where else.
Then we could easily change someones name color or what ever when we choose to remove them.


This would also be timed, you will lose this text color or badge when:
3 months has passed without a single sale
you have scammed someone
you have sold your account or it has been compromised


Now if we look at this post you stated in it:

"This would also be timed, you will lose this text color or badge when:
3 months has passed without a single sale"

So firstly you said you would lose the text color and badge after 3 months. Ok so far nothing about a list... This is about the potential in-game update, in which case you suggested they lose their color after 3 months.



Now Ross did not care for that, it was your response to Purple on his response on why time matters, your reason was:

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 05:20:11 PM
Why put a time limit? I've been on the seller list ever since it was created it pretty much, no reason I should get removed after a certain amount of time.


Just an idea to keep the list fresh (even though it's just us two atm lel).  A lot of people forget they are on the list, so perhaps if they haven't made a single sale in 3 months we would at least require them to verify.


Or to be more specific:

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
A lot of people forget they are on the list, so perhaps if they haven't made a single sale in 3 months we would at least require them to verify.


This is what Ross was talking about.


And then you went and said this:

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
Speaking in current context (where there is no colored name or badge) .... bla bla bla

Really?

To be fair though the some blame goes on Asmit for bringing up the list. You were talking about in-game colors and removing them after x time, then Asmit went and sad that he never got kicked from he current list time wise. It was irrelevant reply, however it does server as an example on why should the players color get removed when Asmit never got removed from the current list. However they are 2 separate things.

Now then onto your reply;

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
A lot of people forget they are on the list, so perhaps if they haven't made a single sale in 3 months we would at least require them to verify.


It is funny because you fell for it. Despite you orignally talking about in-game color you then go onto this current list. Going by how you said "f they haven't made a single sale in 3 months we would at least require them to verify." And the fact that you suggestion said:

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:18:21 PM

This would also be timed, you will lose this text color or badge when:
3 months has passed without a single sale


Ross can assume now that this "list" also is affected by those accepted and changed in-game color. Basically what this means is the color suggestion will be implemented, however there will also be a list on the forum. As they are based off the same time (3 months, and both result in getting removed from the list, and getting their color removed.)

Ah it is funny how messed up this is, because 1 person is posting something completely off-topic then the person who reply's thinks that off topic one is actually on topic and has to do what with they said.



Anyways now that is all cleared. Now onto my question:


Ross is assuming that you now realize he is talking about in-game color and not the list, however if you really care Ross can also act like there is both a list and in-game colors.


Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
"1) It's just to currently refer buyers to active sellers.  Speaking in current context (where there is no colored name or badge)

You rly fked this up now, as your simply talking about the current list. Oh well Ross will just go with ur list thing and then incorporate this list to people with colors.

No it does not. It shows those are are trustworthy to sell ties to, not active sellers. Same as if they have the color in-game



Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
Why put 12 verified people on a list if 10 of them will say "no I'm not selling right now"? That would just piss off the buyer and make them waste their time thinking we have an outdated list. If a seller that was previously verified becomes active again they can ask to be put back on."

Firstly, it is not a "buyer," as they never bought anything, it was however a potential buyer. Anyways what ur saying is people will get pissed if a person of the verified list declines to sell something at that time... What if they ask that buyer 1 day after they just sold something and they are short on cash, so they say they won't sell anything to them atm. Then 1 month later goes and sells again. Just because a potential buyers gets rejected does not indicate that person is inactive or that this list is out dated. Plus what in ur mind thinks that the verified seller will be selling 24/7 and never decline a potential buyer. What makes that buyer go "Oh he is not selling anything today, that damn list is outdated." Unlike what you think, that this current list is "just to currently refer buyers to active sellers." Is not true. It it to list those who are trustworthy.


Come on first it goes from 3 months to declining to sell something at that certain time despite the time diff of the last sale? WOW.



Wait... Hold on, You still reading this RK? Why is this so off-topic of the original question? Ross can understand this answer if Ross asked "Why would u remove a player for being inactive." However Ross never asked that question.... Purple may have but Ross never did.

Here is Ross' question in your terms.

"how does forgetting you are verified matter?"

Where did Ross say anything about them getting kicked for inactivity? Ross was simply asking on why would it affect anything at all if this verified seller forgot that he is a verified seller? Thx for not answering Ross' question and answering something completely irrelevant that Ross never even asked.


Please answer:

"how does forgetting you are verified matter?"

Not:

"Why would u remove a player for being inactive."



As Ross has already brought up:



Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 05:20:11 PM
Why put a time limit? I've been on the seller list ever since it was created it pretty much, no reason I should get removed after a certain amount of time.


Just an idea to keep the list fresh (even though it's just us two atm lel).  A lot of people forget they are on the list, so perhaps if they haven't made a single sale in 3 months we would at least require them to verify.


Or to be more specific:

Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
A lot of people forget they are on the list, so perhaps if they haven't made a single sale in 3 months we would at least require them to verify.








Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
2) You asked how will the color work? which is why I stated it should only be in the trade screen only because even staff who have different colored text in the lobby....have black text in the trade?


Why did You bring that up again? Ross already said ok to it. In fact here it is:

Quote from: Rossbach on December 30, 2013, 06:17:03 PM
*completely ignores Ross' first question on how foretasting ur verified even matter.* Answers question #1..."


here was #1:

(click to show/hide)

In which case, yes you answered before, Ross told you that, why are you bringing it up still?




3) I also said people would lose their text / verified status if they scammed or their account was hacked or sold. That's after going through the verification process, who is going to spend that much real money to get colored text and find someone dumb enough to get massively scammed just so that they can be banned?


So? Just saying it can happen. Don't see why you had to go restate they they would lose their text / verified status. Ross was simply stating that **** happens and that this verified list can backfire.  ::)




4) He's referring to the verified sellers list for membership and zc that tricky made soooo did you miss the memo? That's why we're only talking about said subject.


No, you are not ONLY talking about he original post that tricky made.

This was the original post"


Quote from: JustRK on December 30, 2013, 05:18:21 PM
as the person who currently checks this stuff.  The person has to be using a verified pay pal and has to have several transactions already.


Instead of having a badge, it would just be easier if while in the trade their name was a different color and no where else.
Then we could easily change someones name color or what ever when we choose to remove them.


This would also be timed, you will lose this text color or badge when:
3 months has passed without a single sale
you have scammed someone
you have sold your account or it has been compromised




"This would also be timed, you will lose this text color or badge when:"

Right here it says text color or badge, which is talking about the suggestion, not about the list. You are not talking about ONLY the list.  ::)






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Selene

Too much to read so I'm not sure if this has been said in the topic.

Membership item to be put in shop so it will prevent scammers?

Cooky

Quote from: Selene on December 30, 2013, 10:18:16 PM
Too much to read so I'm not sure if this has been said in the topic.

Membership item to be put in shop so it will prevent scammers?

that might work

Epic xD

...or you could make it appear in the lobby like the mod/admin crown

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Quote from: Epic xD on December 31, 2013, 01:28:05 AM
...or you could make it appear in the lobby like the mod/admin crown

people could easily confuse them for staff...

mic99

different lobby name color on the lobby list





medchiller

Quote from: Selene on December 30, 2013, 10:18:16 PM
Too much to read so I'm not sure if this has been said in the topic.

Membership item to be put in shop so it will prevent scammers?
This has been suggested so many times, in my opinion is a great idea and should be implemented. I don't know the downside to it. :o





Cooky


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Quote from: Purple on December 30, 2013, 05:13:16 PM
"So you make a few membership/zylon coin sells.. then you show a staff member. If they can confirm the sales, you are eligible to be added to the admin verified list."

So your gr8 plan is to cause an influx of scams to get a few verified sellers? gr8 idea m8
heh^

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Ramk1ng

December 31, 2013, 11:32:16 AM #35 Last Edit: December 31, 2013, 11:35:20 AM by Ramk1ng
Quote from: Purple on December 31, 2013, 11:31:34 AM
Quote from: Reviax on December 31, 2013, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Dannii on December 31, 2013, 02:09:54 AM
Sounds dumb
all of ur posts sound dumb
pls stop

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may he rest in peace.

+1 this was funny :)

Not shure but, on the forum their is already a topic wich names the verified sellers. Keep that just updated and their would be no problem, also where would it be visible the badge? u can't trade it so u cant see it in trade. So where can u see the badge?

Cooky

Quote from: Ramk1ng on December 31, 2013, 11:32:16 AM
also where would it be visible the badge? u can't trade it so u cant see it in trade. So where can u see the badge?

oh yeah

woops

idk

I don't like this idea anymore

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