[Optimism]

Ross, i love you.

You should love me as well >.<.

I'm on a scale here, floating above knives and flames. I'm trying to keep this balanced. C'mon now...

SHOW SOME LOVE ;/.

[Bounty]

I'm not saying he has no say. Oh contrare. I've simply talked to Allie about this already. She was going to do it regardless. I understand why she was as well. The needs for this outweigh the nots. I'm simply a messenger playing damage control at this point, so don't curb stomp me more than once...or twice...please.

Ross, go to the silence thread and pose that same question. People are pissed. This is fact.

How long you talked to Allie about this? 2mins?

[Yz]

Ross, i love you.

You should love me as well >.<.

I'm on a scale here, floating above knives and flames. I'm trying to keep this balanced. C'mon now...

SHOW SOME LOVE ;/.

Everyone's pissed at you dude lol don't try to turn this around

[Rossbach]

I'm not saying he has no say. Oh contrare. I've simply talked to Allie about this already. She was going to do it regardless. I understand why she was as well. The needs for this outweigh the nots. I'm simply a messenger playing damage control at this point, so don't curb stomp me more than once...or twice...please.

Ross, go to the silence thread and pose that same question. People are pissed. This is fact.

Oh, Silence you say?


Wow, I did not expect that... Totally

As you see that is proof on how Ice is getting his way. So tell me who else besides Silence? They are just jealous of pro Redemption.



<3 Gramps.

[Optimism]

Who said just ICE? Also, it isn't ICE "getting his way". He and others there have a very legit point to make. Its this simple. If you can't see this, then you're simply being bias as all hell.

I <3 Sean more than you. But I also know where my objectives lye -- these objectives certainly in the realm of appeasement/bias simply to keep a friend. If you can't understand this perspective, then that is your own fault.

[Gramps]

I had no say, no contrare about it. I logged in and it was done. That's why i'm leaving staff. I'd rather be a non member treated like shit than staff treated the same way. /out

[iwasbobo]

Who said just ICE? Also, it isn't ICE "getting his way". He and others there have a very legit point to make. Its this simple. If you can't see this, then you're simply being bias as all hell.

One guild of, say, 40 people overrules the rest of the community? If you're trying to keep a balance, why side with the minority when the rest of the community will become displeased???

[Optimism]

I had no say, no contrare about it. I logged in and it was done. That's why i'm leaving staff. I'd rather be a non member treated like shit than staff treated the same way. /out

You were "treated like shit" for one time in your entire stay here? And you've bailed? I don't get it. Really. I don't.

[Optimism]

Who said just ICE? Also, it isn't ICE "getting his way". He and others there have a very legit point to make. Its this simple. If you can't see this, then you're simply being bias as all hell.

One guild of, say, 40 people overrules the rest of the community? If you're trying to keep a balance, why side with the minority when the rest of the community will become displeased???

Fallacy. Its called the ad populous fallacy. Simply because the majority believe something to be right, doesn't mean it is right. The minority must be protected. Always. It is clearly unfair.

\facepalm.

[zomniethe4]

if there was going to be alts why didn't you guys just take the gm and mod parts out of their names and give them a whole new account with it

[Meta]

Who said just ICE? Also, it isn't ICE "getting his way". He and others there have a very legit point to make. Its this simple. If you can't see this, then you're simply being bias as all hell.

I <3 Sean more than you. But I also know where my objectives lye -- these objectives certainly in the realm of appeasement/bias simply to keep a friend. If you can't understand this perspective, then that is your own fault.

I bet you had to use google translator to understand their language.

[Rossbach]

Who said just ICE? Also, it isn't ICE "getting his way". He and others there have a very legit point to make. Its this simple. If you can't see this, then you're simply being bias as all hell.

Ice is the one who came up with the idea. This is happening RIGHT when Red is about to pass silence. If Ice posed the idea, then it is what he wants. Apparently Gramps ideas get no say.


This is just another fight between Silence and Redemption, gone too far that violate the staff rights.


I don't hate Silence, or am I biased. I am just pointing out the facts, sorry if the facts are one sided. That is what you get when scientists goes into a lab and tests something on if it is something they believe it is are not. Even if they don't agree with it, yet it proves it, they can't be biased and trow it away and say their idea was right.

[Bounty]

First I have witness to back me up,

When ICE is "getting his way".

1. QQ to Allie about our Gp, Like a couple of months ago. Some of the Total Guild Point was removed.
2. QQ to Allie because Redemption has GMs and Silence doesn't. What happen? Ice got his way again. Bang, "ZYLON STAFF" is created.

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Every problem that Redemption is in, it's because of Ice. Not all, but most of it.

Little Birdie told me that, ICE raged when he saw Redemption catching up. Atleast Red don't multi.

[Optimism]

Who said just ICE? Also, it isn't ICE "getting his way". He and others there have a very legit point to make. Its this simple. If you can't see this, then you're simply being bias as all hell.

Ice is the one who came up with the idea. This is happening RIGHT when Red is about to pass silence. If Ice posed the idea, then it is what he wants. Apparently Gramps ideas get no say.


This is just another fight between Silence and Redemption, gone too far that violate the staff rights.


I don't hate Silence, or am I biased. I am just pointing out the facts, sorry if the facts are one sided. That is what you get when scientists goes into a lab and tests something on if it is something they believe it is are not. Even if they don't agree with it, yet it proves it, they can't be biased and trow it away and say their idea was right.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA -- IT IS A PROBLAMATIC CONCERN THAT NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED. STOP BRINGING YOUR BIAS OPINIONS INTO AN OBJECTIVE DISCUSSION -- YOU'RE MAKING THIS A SUBJECTIVE CIRCLE JERK. CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN. DEAL WITH IT.

[zomniethe4]

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