[Allie]

Discuss.

[Xrow]

@ Allie

Why don't we have wings?
Can you tell me why humans need wings to survive?
Planes are a luxury, not a need.

So,
Evolution is the ability to alter yourself in such a way so as to gain what you need to survive.

People were able to fish before fishing poles.
A pole is a luxury, not a need.

Why do we have them then?
They are not a need, therefore they should not exist.


@ Opti:

Describe "evolution" in your own words please.

[Allie]

Humans like luxuries.
The border between luxury and necessity is apparently fuzzy.

[Xrow]

Humans like luxuries.
The border between luxury and necessity is apparently fuzzy.

Although they do like them and the line is fuzzy, they are not necessary to survive.
So, why did we "evolve" them, or the ability and knowledge to make them?

[Styx]

Evolution is not real. It's a myth.

[Jonathan]

Evolution is real. Various animals evolved in order to better adapt to their habitats. What would you call the changes that took places to them then?

[Xrow]

Evolution is real. Various animals evolved in order to better adapt to their habitats. What would you call the changes that took places to them then?

No changes took place.

[Styx]

Evolution is real. Various animals evolved in order to better adapt to their habitats. What would you call the changes that took places to them then?

Meh, I would go on, but can't be bothered D;. Gotta study.

[Mihax]

No changes took place.

Lies.

[Xrow]

Can't tell if you're kidding or not.
And I'd ask you to prove that changes did actually take place... But I already know you can't. Lol.

If you ask me to prove they didn't, my answer:
I can't.
The only evidence that they didn't is that there are no half-"evolved" species, and there are 0 beneficial mutations. If there were beneficial mutations, there is virtually no chance that that mutation would get passed on to the mutated being's offspring, resulting in the loss of that single beneficial mutation.


:|..

[Styx]

Xrow,
/brofist.

[Xrow]

Xrow,
/brofist.

:D.
/Brofist

[GavinGill]

Why do we have them then?
They are not a need, therefore they should not exist.

Human's have learned to make tools that make their lives easier. That's why we have them.

[Mihax]

Can't tell if you're kidding or not.
And I'd ask you to prove that changes did actually take place... But I already know you can't. Lol.

If you ask me to prove they didn't, my answer:
I can't.
The only evidence that they didn't is that there are no half-"evolved" species, and there are 0 beneficial mutations. If there were beneficial mutations, there is virtually no chance that that mutation would get passed on to the mutated being's offspring, resulting in the loss of that single beneficial mutation.

:|..

Heh, already shared my opinion about this subject.
"People will believe in whatever they consider right to believe. No matter how hard you guys try to prove your point, it won't help and surely won't change the other persons' opinion." Which is why I won't bother debating this. Will go endless, until someone gets bored of talking nonsense.

I pretty much agree that it can barely be proven, one way or another. The question is, why are you bothering with this if you can't prove it? What would be the point? Convincing others while you can't prove it yourself? lolol.

Edit: Gavin wins.

[Jonathan]

Explain Darwin's visit to the Galapagos Islands' then.