[Rossbach]

It is only more time consuming.

Takes longer to level up, takes longer to find good items. However as it takes longer to gain experience all your going to be doing is playing the same levels over and over, for a longer amount of time before you move up to the next lv.

More exp needed on low = you simply play that same lv over and over more times than you would do on high server. Also considering that you will be playing each level more times on low than high, the drops rate then are fairly equal.

ex:

High server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 20 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 10 games.

Low server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 40 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 20 games.



That is just more time consuming to be playing on low. The sector levels in low are the exact same as in high, the sector levels are not more difficult or more easy. The only change is you will be doing each level more times on low than high, thus reaching the max lv on high faster than low. That is not more challenging, that is just more time consuming.


Here is another example:

Lets use parallel universes for this example.


So in one universe you chose to play on high. Oh the other you chose to play on low. In both of these universes you spend the same amount of time per day (lets say you spend 1 hour a day playing BC (just a random number,)) and you also follow the same strategy to level up. Ex: You start at lv 1, once you reach lv 5 you do start grinding lv 8 once your lv 10 you start grinding the next level in the list and ect. We will also say that you have never played before, thus you have no OP items, there were no other people to leech off of or play with, and you did no events.



High:

You spend 5 days soloing lv 1 to reach lv 5.


Low:
You spend 10 days soloing lv 1 to reach lv 5.


High:

You spend 20 days soloing lv 8 to reach lv 10.

Low:

You spend 40 days soloing lv 8 to reach lv 10.



Difference? More time consuming.  


Of course Ross did not include people or events into his example. Reason why:

Low server is not more challenging, besides the fact that there is few people to leech off of rather than high server which means *gasp* you need to do the sectioning yourself, rather than leeching off some Korean.

Ross went and looked at the mobs hp in low and high and they are the exact same. If you think spending more time to reach the max lv is more challenging, then go ahead and think that. IRo challenging = something hard like doing lv 200 with a lv 1. Rather than your opinion of just doing things over and over for a longer period of time. That is just boring and annoying.  

Stop trying to make yourself look smart by stating multiple scenarios in which validates your point, I got it the first time.

Sir, the time you put into the game, IS the challenging part. Its more challenging, because you sit up all night trying to grind the same level forever (in your example, no op items, events, no people to leech from)

No one said it was more difficult, it takes time and effort to beat levels all day for a longer time then usually with no one to leech from.

I stated it was more CHALLENGING therefore it being a variable to whatever, in my standards, is more challenging. I was on the same page, you didnt have to repeat.

Ross felt like you would not understand it the first time.  


Well that sounds fun. So apparently to you time is proportional to how challenging something is. So if you play on high server for 100 hours, and play on low server for 99 hours, does that make high server more challenging? Even if you reach the max level on high, you can still continue to play. You can even delete your account / make a new one and start all over again.

Just no note, difficulty does affect how challenging something is. That is why Ross brought up the lv 1 soloing lv 200 thing. Anyone can spend a long time to reach the max level in a game. However not every one can solo lv 200 with a item-less level 1.


Getting max lv first in a competitive game? Ya shur that can be challenging. Simply trying to reach the max lv in the game which no one / very low amount of people play, and they don't really care about getting first. Ok, gratz you completed your goal.

[Yz]

ross is destroying, give up now

[DarkShadow89]

It is only more time consuming.

Takes longer to level up, takes longer to find good items. However as it takes longer to gain experience all your going to be doing is playing the same levels over and over, for a longer amount of time before you move up to the next lv.

More exp needed on low = you simply play that same lv over and over more times than you would do on high server. Also considering that you will be playing each level more times on low than high, the drops rate then are fairly equal.

ex:

High server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 20 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 10 games.

Low server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 40 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 20 games.



That is just more time consuming to be playing on low. The sector levels in low are the exact same as in high, the sector levels are not more difficult or more easy. The only change is you will be doing each level more times on low than high, thus reaching the max lv on high faster than low. That is not more challenging, that is just more time consuming.


Here is another example:

Lets use parallel universes for this example.


So in one universe you chose to play on high. Oh the other you chose to play on low. In both of these universes you spend the same amount of time per day (lets say you spend 1 hour a day playing BC (just a random number,)) and you also follow the same strategy to level up. Ex: You start at lv 1, once you reach lv 5 you do start grinding lv 8 once your lv 10 you start grinding the next level in the list and ect. We will also say that you have never played before, thus you have no OP items, there were no other people to leech off of or play with, and you did no events.



High:

You spend 5 days soloing lv 1 to reach lv 5.


Low:
You spend 10 days soloing lv 1 to reach lv 5.


High:

You spend 20 days soloing lv 8 to reach lv 10.

Low:

You spend 40 days soloing lv 8 to reach lv 10.



Difference? More time consuming.  


Of course Ross did not include people or events into his example. Reason why:

Low server is not more challenging, besides the fact that there is few people to leech off of rather than high server which means *gasp* you need to do the sectioning yourself, rather than leeching off some Korean.

Ross went and looked at the mobs hp in low and high and they are the exact same. If you think spending more time to reach the max lv is more challenging, then go ahead and think that. IRo challenging = something hard like doing lv 200 with a lv 1. Rather than your opinion of just doing things over and over for a longer period of time. That is just boring and annoying.  

Stop trying to make yourself look smart by stating multiple scenarios in which validates your point, I got it the first time.

Sir, the time you put into the game, IS the challenging part. Its more challenging, because you sit up all night trying to grind the same level forever (in your example, no op items, events, no people to leech from)

No one said it was more difficult, it takes time and effort to beat levels all day for a longer time then usually with no one to leech from.

I stated it was more CHALLENGING therefore it being a variable to whatever, in my standards, is more challenging. I was on the same page, you didnt have to repeat.

Ross felt like you would not understand it the first time.  


Well that sounds fun. So apparently to you time is proportional to how challenging something is. So if you play on high server for 100 hours, and play on low server for 99 hours, does that make high server more challenging? Even if you reach the max level on high, you can still continue to play. You can even delete your account / make a new one and start all over again.

Just no note, difficulty does affect how challenging something is. That is why Ross brought up the lv 1 soloing lv 200 thing. Anyone can spend a long time to reach the max level in a game. However not every one can solo lv 200 with a item-less level 1.


Getting max lv first in a competitive game? Ya shur that can be challenging. Simply trying to reach the max lv in the game which no one / very low amount of people play, and they don't really care about getting first. Ok, gratz you completed your goal.

What your doing is taking what I said and ridiculing it without thinking first.

I meant the low box rates and exp + the extra time it takes. Is what makes it more "challenging"

The fact that you can't just SIT in a lobby and get leveled. And also the fact that if you win the level, you wont get better armor to help you fight the tougher enemies. The low exp creates the time length which drags out the day, and you have to be awake technically to play.. after playing long amounts of gameplay would drain the energy to want to play the same level over and over (more then high server) and therefore I would get sick of game, or sick of playing the same level.

Again. Stop with wall of texts.

And also, there is no motivation after 221 to get levels, no one would play CONSISTENTLY enough because they don't NEED to.

Stop with the bullshit scenarios that arent related to daily life, we were never talking about THE HOURS it takes of playing, were talking about the motivation to get to level 221 on the low server compared to high, which is the time difference.  I can play for 30 minutes a day, and be less motivated to grind AND GET LOW XP, compared to playing on high server and getting higher xp.

[Rossbach]

I meant the low box rates and exp + the extra time it takes. Is what makes it more "challenging"

And also the fact that if you win the level, you wont get better armor to help you fight the tougher enemies.

For drop rate:

less  exp rates on low = you simply play that same lv over and over more times than you would do on high server. Also considering that you will be playing each level more times on low than high, the drops rate then are fairly equal.

ex:

High server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 20 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 10 games.

Low server:

You just started playing for your first time on high server. You play lv 1 40 times and reach lv 2, also getting your +3 set after 20 games.

Because there is a lower exp rate, you will play the level more times, thus having a change for a box to drop more times before you go onto the next lv.

"You wont get better armor."

Still a possibility that you can get better armor, the rates were only decreased.

The fact that you can't just SIT in a lobby and get leveled.

Well of course if you sit in the lobby you will not gain experience for low and high server. (Lobby is the place where there is a big chat box to talk to everyone and to join/ create a room.)

If your talking about leeching off people and not playing then blame the low player base on low server rather than high. Also take a look at this:

Low server is not more challenging, besides the fact that there is few people to leech off of rather than high server which means *gasp* you need to do the sectoring yourself, rather than leeching off some Korean.

Also there are people who you can leech off of on low, just as you can on high. Also if the player base was higher on the low server, it would pretty much be the same thing as high server just now. People would offer leeching rooms if you have lucky. So it is not like you "can't just sit... and get leveled."

The low exp creates the time length which drags out the day, and you have to be awake technically to play.. after playing long amounts of gameplay would drain the energy to want to play the same level over and over (more then high server) and therefore I would get sick of game, or sick of playing the same level.

You also have to be awake on high server to gain experience. Also you don't need to be playing it for long periods of time and overnight. Just simply play at a nice pace everyday, and take a break every once in a while. Like Ross said:

It is only more time consuming.

Again. Stop with wall of texts.

Why?  

And also, there is no motivation after 221 to get levels, no one would play CONSISTENTLY enough because they don't NEED to.

When did motivation have anything with something being challenging?

1    DragonClaw    221    127005495
2    MASTER OG ICE    221    66064562

1    DragonClaw    33746    467    98.64%
2    MASTER OG ICE    11822    539    95.64%

Exp for 221: around 5.9 mill.

Stop with the bullshit scenarios that arent related to daily life, we were never talking about THE HOURS it takes of playing, were talking about the motivation to get to level 221 on the low server compared to high, which is the time difference.  I can play for 30 minutes a day, and be less motivated to grind AND GET LOW XP, compared to playing on high server and getting higher xp.

Bold:

Your the one who said that the amount of time you spend on something is proportional to how challenging it is. Thus we where talking about the amount of time it takes for playing.


We were talking about the word "challenging," and according to what you said before

Sir, the time you put into the game, IS the challenging part.

time = how challenging something is. Thus in a sense we were talking about the hours it takes.


Yet again, when did motivation have to do with something being challenging.

Italic:

Oh, now your back at time? Look above. (The bold one, also Ross' big example about the two parallel universes .)


Red:

"Yet again, when did motivation have to do with something being challenging."

That is nice on what you care about and how much time you can spend playing, you know that this is not just about you right? Different people think differently. It is nice you would rather get a higher number made of pixels rather than a lower number made out of pixels.  

[DarkShadow89]

K you don't get it, point is - There's different things that makes the low server unbearable and challenging to play comparatively.

[Rossbach]

K you don't get it, point is - There's different things that makes the low server unbearable and challenging to play comparatively.

Unbearable to play is =/= to how challenging something is.
Motivation is =/= to how challenging something is.

Ross will take this as his win as you no longer have anything to support your claim. Good game.

[DarkShadow89]

Now your making false assumptions. You dont pay attention when you read do you, they're not equal but they are the foundation of what makes the low server more challenging. They are points to support my theory that the low-server is challenging compared to high-server. Do you get it now Ross?

"The equals sign, equality sign, or "=" is a mathematical symbol used to indicate equality"

Motivation, and a game being unbearable is just the SUM or RESULT of the server being challenging

It is not equal to.

Dank will take this as his win as you no longer have anything to support your claim. Good game.
Food for your thought.

[hidden99]

Requesting For Lock MOD's 


but i love What Ross saids


Ross <3 (but im not a gay)

[Rossbach]

Now your making false assumptions. You dont pay attention when you read do you, they're not equal but they are the foundation of what makes the low server more challenging. They are points to support my theory that the low-server is challenging compared to high-server. Do you get it now Ross?

Underline:

Yes, they are =/=, thus why you can't build a strong and proper foundation out of it.

Think about it. They are =/= to how challenging it is, yet you say that they are a good enough reason to prove that is is challenging which means you say they are "=". You pretty much contradicted yourself there.



Bold:

What "points" support your theory? (Ross knows your talking about your previous posts, however Ross wants to get into eery single one of your points.) Amount of time a player spends playing a game? The players motivation? How is it unbearable? Ross has already beat all your "points" already in the previous posts, showing how they are in fact not relevant (because they are =/=) to the fact they cause the low server to be more challenging than the high server. That is why Ross claims none of your "points" can hold a proper foundation for your "theory," as you no longer have any strong supporting points they are weak and have been battered, as Ross has taken his mighty hammer and broke down your support for the foundation of your "theory," causing it to crumble before Ross.



Like Ross said before.

Ross will take this as his win as you no longer have anything to support your claim. Good game.  

And before you even get to stating your points all over again, you should start by proving how Ross' foundation (that your points are wrong) is incorrect, that you can find here;

and also the previous posts.

You simply ignored that post (the one Ross gave you the link to,) which is another reason why Ross considers this his win.

[DarkShadow89]

Technically its an opinion on what you consider hard is, if you like staying up forever taking longer to get levels not hard then go play on low level.

But your a retard if you dont think that low is differently challenging compared to high server.

Regardless of your next post defending your case.

Your a tard for not believing that theres a difference that makes it a bit harder. 

[Rossbach]

Technically its an opinion on what you consider hard is, if you like staying up forever taking longer to get levels not hard then go play on low level.

But your a retard if you dont think that low is differently challenging compared to high server.

Regardless of your next post defending your case.

Your a tard for not believing that theres a difference that makes it a bit harder.  

Yet again, mobs = same HP, maps = exact same. Thus is is not harder, it is the exact same difficulty, thus it is not harder, which means that it not more challenging. "Only difference is it is more time consuming."


Also, Ross does not need a point to support his claim. Your the one who needs a point to support your claim on why it is more challenging. Also Ross has many strong and supporting points, look at Ross' previous posts. 

[DarkShadow89]

Mental difficulty is different ;O

[Rossbach]

Mental difficulty is different ;O

Yes, to each person.

But think about people like DragonClaw, he plays a lot. You just have to set a nice pace at which you do it at.

If the high server was actually the low server (had same exp and drop rates,) and they low server and a even more "lower" server, it would seem the exact same as it is now to us.


Just because a person does not like to do something over and over does not necessarily mean it is challenging or difficult at all.


Also, do you hate Ross or something?  

[DarkShadow89]

No i dont hate anyone, I was saying how I felt about low server, I have a job not a lot of time to grind for 10 hours.

[Rossbach]

No i dont hate anyone, I was saying how I felt about low server, I have a job not a lot of time to grind for 10 hours.

They just play 1 hour a day, until you reach lv 221 it will come eventually. Not that hard if you pace yourself. If you get sick of it, quit for a week and come back to it later. Ross was also talking about how he felt about the low server. Ross is talking about how the game has the exact same difficulty, as in, low server is not harder to complete each sector lv. Thus theoretically they game is not more challenging.