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Concept : Guild Wipe #2, we need your inputs.

Started by Yz, November 04, 2015, 09:13:33 AM

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Guild Wipe or No Guild Wipe?

Guild Wipe
117 (52%)
Don't Guild Wipe
108 (48%)

Total Members Voted: 225

alexaguila

November 04, 2015, 04:56:12 PM #30 Last Edit: November 04, 2015, 07:23:00 PM by alexaguila
Yes because in my opinion a guild wipe would help a lot for people to create their own and new guilds, also thinking that as some one said early its pretty unreachable to aim at the top 10 in rank, me being part of silence and prestige. that being said prices for guild buffs are extreme any way for some one new to get his on guild aiming at top 10 ranks there for if that doesn't change maybe guild wipe shouldn't either.

In other topic updates and events would help a ton, and since I'm kind of new to this community ill ask, I don't know if you ever take in consideration player made updates or items? and if u do that that would help too, the community helping out making new content.

Well may the decision the admins take and the community be the best one for the game, thanks for taking the time of asking us
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medchiller

I personally don't care if it happens because the time i can spend on this game is very limited. However I think it would be a really neat idea to have a periodic wipe of the gp (not saying guilds cant be removed rn) and the guild flag would be removed and given to the top guild. This would give objective for players and then the #1 spot isnt stuck at 100m gp above everyone else. Hope people find joy in a guild wipe and stuff :)





ghostkid17

All for it even though I'm not in a guild that competes for gp. The top guilds have no real contest and it can be intimidating for those who want to create their own.
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Bubbabear

November 04, 2015, 05:52:42 PM #33 Last Edit: November 04, 2015, 05:56:03 PM by Bubbabear
Yes, reasons being i'd like to see a fresh new start again. There is no real loss in doing a guild wipe a part from expanding the players you get to know in your guilds. Also, it will get rid of the all the in-active/dead guilds and on top of that it will make names available again for those who want to steal or revitalise old guilds.

That being said, an exp wipe isn't the best of ideas if anything i stick to my original idea of modifying low server since it's the less played server but this won't happen so no point going into depth with it.

With plenty of games to play, it's nice to play something you enjoy and something you come back to not because of pure competition but there still needs a way of convincing players to play other game modes like pvp/bvb some sort of reward system somehow. I'm just one of these players who will probably always just come back every now and again sometimes active sometimes not so much, as i like to see how the game progresses.

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Rez

November 04, 2015, 06:07:11 PM #34 Last Edit: November 04, 2015, 06:09:33 PM by Rez
I spent 100,000,000 giggas yesterday for +10 players, can i get a refund if this happens? lmao
And i disagree with taking away the first G flags, make this new guild flag 2nd so the lucky few can ware 2 G Flags at once.
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Yz

So far pretty much everyone's posted yes except two people, who only said no because they like their GP. You guys will be reimbursed for your GP!

Too bad more people who voted "no" didn't post too.

STC Fefnir

I said no cause I recently reached 20m gp xD
but if its yes I'm up to this :)

z0co2

Quote from: Mario666 on November 04, 2015, 01:19:54 PM
Quote from: z0co2 on November 04, 2015, 12:53:47 PM
I can understand your point of view and I do agree, It's a solid fact that fewer members would result in more guilds and more competition. That's why I  suggested 15 people instead of 20. Guilds with 10 people are just to few in my opinion, this would only result in players making second guilds to expand which has already happened to several guilds inclusive the one I'm in now with 20 members.

I think you missed my initial point.

Take a guild of 20 people, and we'll call it [Example]. If after a guild wipe there can only be 15 people per guild, [Example] could be remade, but that will leave 5 people from the old guild who must now create a different guild with 5 completely new people. 5 people being left over is worse than if after a guild wipe, [Example] could split perfectly into [Example1] and [Example2].

I see where you are coming from and I would agree with you if there where at least 3 guilds with 10+ active members, but that isn't the case nearly all guilds are inactive/dead with the exception of Silence. I know that most guilds if not all have at least 5 inactive players for a long period of time so they wouldn't feel bad about losing 5 inactive players that are still in the guild just for the amount of GP they have. There might even be 10 inactive, so making 10 players the maximum wouldn't disturb those guilds, but with 15 members you can have new faces in the guild and this way Silence can stay together a guild I really like I'm pretty sure they have 10+ active players.


mic99

Please note I don't play anymore but I'll throw my 2 cents in. Due to that I will also not vote.

The first guild wipe worked really well. It was nice seeing the new guilds pop up and the activity of the game increase. Along with that, the competition made people actually want to play. Overall, the game felt alive and refreshed.

The idea of a second guild wipe just seems like a easy way to try and fix a dying game. I understand the circumstances with updating right now and sadly I have no other ideas on how to make the game lively again but this seems a bit ridiculous. What's there to stop another guild wipe in another few years when things start to become stale again? Also, what would the rewards be to the guilds being wiped? How many people would consider quitting due to their guild being wiped? How much currency will be flooded back into the game to reimburse players?

It's a high risk especially with a couple dozen people currently playing. If you do continue with this wipe, I'd obviously suggest to plan it during the summer.

Hopefully you can find a legitimate solution for this problem soon.  :-\





RAUDOG

 I vote no I am totally against what's going on as you know the first Gil wiped wipeout did not even work properly instead of gills having 30 to 40 members it dropped to 20 didn't none of us like that now you want to drop it to 10 people in a Guild. Wow that's crazy, too many people have been working very hard, with there own events, and there hard earned money, a Guild wipe should be posted a year in advanced, that way people will know what there getting in2. It's unfair to do a Guild wipe at this time, just as it was unfair last time. It's un professional it this takes place, I will  speak more on this later, I hate using my phone, but Guild Wipe, Hell No.




Rez

November 04, 2015, 08:43:51 PM #40 Last Edit: November 04, 2015, 08:45:57 PM by Rez
Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
I vote no I am totally against what's going on as you know the first Gil wiped wipeout did not even work properly instead of gills having 30 to 40 members it dropped to 20 didn't none of us like that now you want to drop it to 10 people in a Guild. Wow that's crazy, too many people have been working very hard, with there own events, and there hard earned money, a Guild wipe should be posted a year in advanced, that way people will know what there getting in2. It's unfair to do a Guild wipe at this time, just as it was unfair last time. It's un professional it this takes place, I will  speak more on this later, I hate using my phone, but Guild Wipe, Hell No.

i agree 100%, very well said. and i thought guild member limit was 50 before.
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Yz

November 04, 2015, 11:04:42 PM #41 Last Edit: November 04, 2015, 11:12:54 PM by Yz
I'm only going to reply to this with a little debate because you said some things as if they are facts, but they aren't, they're opinions - all of which I respect, and I appreciate your input Ice.

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
as you know the first Gil wiped wipeout did not even work properly

What do you define as "a guild wipe working properly"? For the first 6 months after the guild wipe, there were so many active guilds..

Here's a list of guilds that were actively playing the game within the first 6 months of our guild wipe in 2012, which will honestly make todays competition look sad.

-Game Kings
-Silence
-Redemption
-Sunshine
-Sympathy
-Utopia
-Sanctuary
-Anarchy
-ZeaL
-rKr
-Genesis
-Legend.
-Schism
-Disdain
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-Even LiL Optis
And to a degree, SevenSeeds, PnPnP, and SynsationalWolfs. Also, I know I'm missing some.

Where did all this competition go? The statistics are there. BoutCheetah's most active and competitive point in time was after the last guild wipe, besides beta. As far as I know, the last guild wipe worked as intended.

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
instead of gills having 30 to 40 members it dropped to 20 didn't none of us like that now you want to drop it to 10 people in a Guild.

We have less than 30 players on at a time, the reason I was able to list so many guilds up there ^ was because enough players were split up into their own guilds. More guilds, more alliances, more events, more competition. Win-win.

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
too many people have been working very hard, with there own events, and there hard earned money

Understood, it's a shame. But really, how many people are working hard with their events right now? Next to none. The game has truly stagnated.

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
It's unfair to do a Guild wipe at this time, just as it was unfair last time. It's un professional it this takes place

Agreed. There's very little fairness to it, which is why we're seeking the approval of the playerbase before we make such a move. However, ultimately, fair or not and as stated earlier, it's the easiest quick fix to breathe life into the game again. The active playerbase that cares about guilds is so laughably low at the moment.

Still, this is only a concept and if it were to happen it wouldn't be for a long time - currently it's extremely unlikely.

But I can't stress enough - please look at the list above. That list is not an exaggeration, and those were all English guilds apart from sunshine - think of all the foreign ingame only guilds that never posted on the forums...

and today... we're left with Silence and a bit of SoSa. Can't really get worse than this.

One more reason to do another wipe is to properly rework and balance GP gains - doing it now at this point is impossible.

When it comes down to it, you care about the time and effort put into your guilds, but when you consider the health, balance and liveliness of the game, the guild wipe has way more ups than downs.

RAUDOG

I appreciate ur input also, but no Tricky no need for Me to look at the guilds brother, I got what I k know, that wipe true many did play but that lasted 3 months, anyway if all of you really want to improve the Game login and show ur Face, play ball dam, come and grind just an hour a day and the game will improve, I  can change all this now by challenging all guilds, we can do this like we did back in the day, and I bet your last dollar the game will improve. So all of you that said yes to the wipe get ur ass online, and let's do the dam thing.
Excuse me if my typing is off I'm on this dam phone




Yz

As a player and not an admin, no point when everyone is 300mil GP behind.

Rez

Quote from: RAUDOG on November 04, 2015, 11:46:28 PMif all of you really want to improve the Game login and show ur Face, play ball dam
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