[Allie]

There's been a lot of talk (especially because of Cooky) that some staff members have been breaking rules by lying.
However, I would like to take the time to mention that staff members being verbally dishonest is not against the rules. Being honest is not part of their staff duty -- in fact, high staff members (some GMs and all Admins) purposely lie to you to keep things in Administration pretty consistently, and we don't deny this. We've even had some members swear secrecy to Administration information, which we rarely give an honest answer to.

In short, as staff members we aren't always going to be honest with you, and in some cases us in Administration request our staff members to lie about some things. Reporting a staff member for lying is as fruitless as reporting them for having orange text -- it's just not against the rules.

However, harassment takes a different charge. Just because you're spreading the truth around does not make harassment okay. If someone did something embarrassingly at a party, and you tell EVERYONE about it, that is strong harassment. Same thing here.

Thanks for those of you who actually read it.

[Xx Itz Ian]

so ur saying...
lying is cool?

[Allie]

so ur saying...
lying is cool?

I'm saying that lying isn't against the rules, even for staff members.

[Xx Itz Ian]

so this rule isn't just for staff, also we as users are allowed to lie about prices/ items and stuff like that?

[Allie]

so this rule isn't just for staff, also we as users are allowed to lie about prices/ items and stuff like that?

No, because that is scamming.
There's a difference.

[Dillh]

So your saying, you don't care if your staff members are not being true to you.

[ZeroUH]

Just saw Cooky's case. "Promisse me that you'll tell Tricky that I'll be a good mod mimimimimi". And he made 2 videos of that stupid thing trying to put Selene in trouble. OH WTF! Stop being a attention whore and go play. Don't throw your rocks on Selene by telling that she lied. I known normal members that lie trying to being cool or w/e...

[KillerPig]

so this rule isn't just for staff, also we as users are allowed to lie about prices/ items and stuff like that?

No, because that is scamming.
There's a difference.

no
Scamming is lying

[Allie]

There is an agreed amount of trust between any two players, that someone wouldn't lie to you about a specific thing.
For example, asking you how to obtain an item. If you blatantly lie to them, you're an asshole. You're not breaking rules, but you're still an asshole.
On some things, like the things we keep in Administration, we aren't expected to tell you everything. It's like the government hiding things, we just would prefer to keep information private, especially to benefit the community (and not to benefit other communities).
We aren't expected to make black lies to players, but staff are expected to make white lies - if they slip up and tell a black lie, that makes them an asshole, not a rule breaker, and the severity of the black lie is what determines if they are worthy of staff or not.

[loewe98]

So your saying, you don't care if your staff members are not being true to you.

So they are lien to us and we need to accept that , uh cool o,o..

[Materger]

So your saying, you don't care if your staff members are not being true to you.

So they are lien to us and we need to accept that , uh cool o,o..

People lie to you everyday rather you know they're lying to you or not, it happens everyday and you accept the lies that you're not aware are in fact lies. ^~^

[Iridion]

So your saying, you don't care if your staff members are not being true to you.

So they are lien to us and we need to accept that , uh cool o,o..

People lie to you everyday rather you know they're lying to you or not, it happens everyday and you accept the lies that you're not aware are in fact lies. ^~^

wow great point
just like deleting posts. thats also great.

[mo9]

i find this amusing.

[loewe98]

So your saying, you don't care if your staff members are not being true to you.

So they are lien to us and we need to accept that , uh cool o,o..

People lie to you everyday rather you know they're lying to you or not, it happens everyday and you accept the lies that you're not aware are in fact lies. ^~^

True , but how do u feel when ppl lies to you ;f? In fact maybe it's better that the staff lies
sometimes i totally agreed whit them but like you're saying ppl lies every day to you and sometimes that really sucks ;d .

[Materger]

True , but how do u feel when ppl lies to you ;f? In fact maybe it's better that the staff lies
sometimes i totally agreed whit them but like you're saying ppl lies every day to you and sometimes that really sucks ;d .

When you find out someone you trust lies to you, it's not a good feeling I assume, but some lies are necessary, like keeping terrifying or sad news from someone you care about etc...